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OJ Gets 15+ Years!  
User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94SNE980&show_article=1

LAS VEGAS (AP) - A broken O.J. Simpson has been sentenced to at least 15 years in prison for a Las Vegas hotel armed robbery by a judge who rejected his apology and said, "It was much more than stupidity."

Simpson stood stone-faced Friday when Judge Jackie Glass quickly rattled off his punishment after he pleaded with her that he didn't mean to steal from anybody when he tried to retrieve memorabilia.


I wonder if they allow Bruno Magli dress shoes in prison...


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

He'll probably get lucky again and beat the charges on appeal.


"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

That is a long time for him to figure out why he is that stupid.

He was lucky once but not this time.


User currently offlinePWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

This guy just doesn't learn! How many people other than Michale Jackson are lucky enough to beat a charge as serious two felonies of 1st degree murder, yet continue on only to have several road rage incidents turned physical before eventually committing another offense that sends them off to the big house for 15 years? I'll bet this is a happy day for the Goldman's and Nichole's friends and family? By the time he gets out, he'll probably only have another ten years or so before he dies of old age!

I guess he's been busy on the golf course over the last 15 years, and getting into fights. At least now he'll have some real serious time to find the real killers! Oh, and to get use to sex with other men!



[Edited 2008-12-05 11:21:00]

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8472 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2086 times:



Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 3):
Oh, and to get use to sex with other men!

Those other men better be polite around OJ. He gets real mad sometimes. Besides, OJ's relations with crooked cops, small time crooks and the occasional murder can continue in prison. He will still have time for all those things. He will miss women though.


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2031 times:



Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 3):
! Oh, and to get use to sex with other men!

What a revoltin' thought. Even if I was gay I wouldn't schtup that on a bet.

At least the good people of the Silver State are prepared to take care of their business without being overly impressed about thugs like Simpson and Phil Spector.




 Angry


User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1968 times:



Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 3):
guess he's been busy on the golf course over the last 15 years, and getting into fights. At least now he'll have some real serious time to find the real killers! Oh, and to get use to sex with other men!

Not likely..Because of his fame he will be in protective custody sort of speak. He will be segregated for his own safety.



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Poor guy. Sad to see someone go down for such a silly two-bit crime.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

As Leno put it one night - "I know believe 'OJ' stands for 'Overdue Justice'." Sounds about right.

Maybe him and Michael Vick can be in the same prison. Then they could start a really good prison football team - The Longest Yard II I'm sure Plaxico will be joining soon enough, and the Bengals always have players coming in and out of the penal system.


User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 977 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1848 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Poor guy. Sad to see someone go down for such a silly two-bit crime.

So what are you suggesting then: That "silly two-bit crimes" such as robbery and kidnapping should be taken off the books? That the penalties for these crimes should not involve prison time? That as long as one robs and kidnaps one's own friends that is a sillier and more two-bit crime than robbing and kidnapping complete strangers? I am confused here. Enlighten us.

Note: The charges against O.J. Simpson from www.findlaw.com: "O.J. Simpson and three other individuals face multiple criminal charges in Nevada, including conspiracy to kidnap, kidnapping, robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery, burglary, assault, and weapons related crimes."
http://news.findlaw.com/nytimes/docs/oj/ojnv91807cmp.html


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9910 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1840 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Poor guy. Sad to see someone go down for such a silly two-bit crime.

Hmmm. Armed robbery is a silly, two-bit crime? Kidnapping is a silly, two-bit crime?

What, exactly, isn't a silly, two-bit crime?

There's nothing "poor guy"-ish about him, and nothing sad about his getting busted for committing a crime.



"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1824 times:



Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 9):
So what are you suggesting then: That "silly two-bit crimes" such as robbery and kidnapping should be taken off the books?

Because if it was you or me, we would not be charged with 9 separate felonies, particularly if we don't have a criminal background.

The prosecution since day one has had a hard on regarding this case and wanted to prove a point and have the book thrown at him.

Simply put, this case would not have grown to what if it did not have a celebrity side to it.

And yes, I think its a shame the man goes down for what was a stupid turn of events.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

To me, OJ Simpson has had serious mental health problems all his adult life; that along with who knows what kind of pysicial damage to his brain he got (concussions mainly) from playing football may have caused his angry persona and behavior. That could explain him killing his wife, what he believed to be a new boyfriend of hers, his several incidents of road rage and his poor, anger diected decision to go after 'his stuff'.

That he is going for jail for his conviction for crimes in Las Vegas is not supposed to be justice for the acts he was not conviced of in 1995 - it is for the criminal acts he did there. He and his stooges could have killed or maimed someone, so hence the criminal charges. All for just some stuff the providence of ownership was disputable on.

His convictions and sentence are subject to appeals, but it is doubtful they will be successful. I do think the judge was not showing proper judicial restraint in her comments to OJ during the sentencing, she just should have said that legally necessary and not make such side remarks. Assuming his conviction is upheld in the appeal courts, I have no problem of his serving what could be the rest of his natural life in jail.


User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 661 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

He could not get "shanked" quick enough for me.

JM



What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 977 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1804 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):
Because if it was you or me, we would not be charged with 9 separate felonies, particularly if we don't have a criminal background.
The prosecution since day one has had a hard on regarding this case and wanted to prove a point and have the book thrown at him.
Simply put, this case would not have grown to what if it did not have a celebrity side to it.
And yes, I think its a shame the man goes down for what was a stupid turn of events.

Assuming everything you say is true—that the prosecution was piling on in the charges brought against O.J. because he is a celebrity; that it was payback for the acquittal in 1995; that O.J. was stupid for taking the matter of his stolen property into his own hands—and assuming that the facts of the case were as they were presented to the jury, then what is the appropriate penalty for packing heat and taking a posse into someone's hotel room while waving around weapons and yelling demands while not permitting the individuals to leave? LAXintl, as they say on TV: You make the call.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1779 times:



Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 14):
that O.J. was stupid for taking the matter of his stolen property into his own hands

Yes agreed, he was stupid.

To add to my previous post, the LA County DA's and a couple prominent attorneys were interviewed about this case and basically stated they all were surprised at the number of charges against him. They all suggested that most parties in similar circumstance would likely be charged with possibly a single felony and a couple of mistomenors, with any jail time being at most in 'months', with 3-5 years probation particularly for a person with a clean criminal record and being nearly a senior citizen in age.

So at the end of the day, in my view the punishment did not fit the crime by any means.
As reference, murder in CA gets an average sentence of only 12 years, while serving 8 on average prior to release.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1739 times:



Quoting J.mo (Reply 13):
He could not get "shanked" quick enough for me.

Just curious...exactly what do YOU get out of his being stabbed in the back and or killed in prison?


BN747



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1728 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15):
the LA County DA's and a couple prominent attorneys were interviewed about this case and basically stated they all were surprise at the number of charges against him.

The Los Angeles County DA's writ does not extend to Nevada last I heard. OJ Simpson committed his crimes in Nevada, and they take a rather dim view of celebrities behaving badly with weapons, even a D-list pariah like da Juice.

I am quite sure that Simpson most likely was offered a plea to a reduced charge but decided not to accept it because he thought he could make it go away like he did the last time.

It's fairly typical to overcharge, and make sure the defendant knows that if he takes the case to trial and wastes everyone's time he's going to pay for the privilege.

I sure hope Mr. Yale Galanter explained this to da Juice. Somehow I think he probably did, and the client didn't listen, and Mr. Galanter was afraid of taking the client to the woodshed or having the Come to Jesus meeting as we call it because of all those lovely paychecks.

Here's the complaint-see if you think it's trumped up.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/criminal.complaint.pdf


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25062 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1720 times:

No I don't think things are trumped up - but there is something important in the law called proportionality - the principle that the punishment should fit the crime.

I find it wasteful frankly to tie this man up in a jail for potentially so long when much more serious crimes including murder get less punitive average sentences.

At the end of the day, I can only surmise the Nevada prosecutes obviously are a zealous bunch and wanted to make a spectacle of this case, frankly at the expense of the Nevada taxpayers.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1653 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
At the end of the day, I can only surmise the Nevada prosecutes obviously are a zealous bunch and wanted to make a spectacle of this case, frankly at the expense of the Nevada taxpayers.

That's because someone had to make up for your state's incompetence.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):

Poor guy. Sad to see someone go down for such a silly two-bit crime.

Nah.... More like "Great to see the guy finally get what he deserves".

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15):
To add to my previous post, the LA County DA's and a couple prominent attorneys were interviewed about this case and basically stated they all were surprised at the number of charges against him.

And as we've seen in the past, LA County DA's are morons.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1645 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 5):
What a revoltin' thought

Revolting is not the word, If I was in the lockup with him he would leave a virgin, and I would leave STR8

mal787



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13184 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

I hope this buries any of the notions about 'race' being a factor, he got away with it last time because he could afford the best lawyers, if anything it was about economic class.

LTBEWR may well have a point about OJ himself, for me though, I think that he just takes some 'celeb' traits to a new level - perhaps due to some mental condition of his.
Most of them, at the very top of the celeb tree, are almost or really are, sociopaths.
They expect to get what they want, all of the time, no matter what or who objects. Are often very narcissistic to point of having some kind of personality disorder.
They are used to people being around them to indulge their wishes without question.
Their wealth isolates them even more from most other people - except those very similar to them.

But without such traits to begin with, some of them would never have got that level of fame and fortune and they know it.

Most of the time this comes out in sulks, punching photographers, heavy drug/alcohol use, also physical abuse of partners looms very heavily here - the ones that is we get to hear about.
That one comes up time and again.

Phil Spector was mentioned above, who else thought, when the news broke of his arrest, well, he finally did it .
He pulled guns over decades on a bunch of people, the famous ones staring down the barrel we got to hear about.
His first wife, The Ramones, seemingly most other performers he worked with, journalists, studio technicians.

He I think, in 2003 finally took it to it's ultimate conclusion. Though he seems so delusional (judging by how he was on a long interview session I saw), he might actually think it wasn't his fault.
OJ, with a history of physical abuse of his wife, extreme jealousy, finally took it to the ultimate conclusion in 1994.

The reason OJ wasn't jailed then, the reason Spector nearly 6 years on, is not locked up - though he faces another trial, is access to very good lawyers - good that is of shifting the emphasis of the court away from even compelling evidence.
The day we know this is no longer the case, is if a famous person is convicted of murder in a state with Capital Punishment, they end up on death row.
Not before.

Why should we be surprised if celebs evade justice all too often?
Micheal Jackson can evade the consequences of being a child molester, but that's another recent example, since in Hollywood and the entertainment industry in general, there has been a very long history of evasion of justice.
From crimes involving suspicious deaths in the Hollywood of the 20's, to Errol Flynn escaping justice for sex with under age girls two decades later, it's not so new.

But OJ is so delusional he really thought he could get away with this latest crime, considering his past, maybe he wasn't quite so delusional to think this.
That's why he went and did it.


User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

In Texas OJ may have been within his rights to kill these profiteers if he believed he was trying to retrieve his stolen property.

In other threads where men defend their property with deadly force, it’s cheered and defended. When OJ tries to retrieve his stolen property with no loss of life, the reaction is to throw the book at him.

As far as what happened in LA. The State could not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s the State’s fault, not OJ’s.


User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1582 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
Poor guy. Sad to see someone go down for such a silly two-bit crime

Poor guy? Are you serious? Where the hell have you been the last 14 yrs? How about the poor Goldman family who OJ has been rubbing their noses in it ever since the civil judgement againt Simpson. He got a get out of jail free card last time he should have been on his BEST behavior for the rest of his days and thanked his lucky stars he didn't get convicted last time.



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5592 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1552 times:



Quoting 102IAHexpress (Reply 22):

In Texas OJ may have been within his rights to kill these profiteers if he believed he was trying to retrieve his stolen property.

In other threads where men defend their property with deadly force, it’s cheered and defended. When OJ tries to retrieve his stolen property with no loss of life, the reaction is to throw the book at him.

You obviously know nothing about Texas law.



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
25 Itsjustme : "2 bit crimes"? Would you have such a cavalier attitude if his victims were loved ones of yours? Eligible for parole in 9 years for crimes he could b
26 MD11Engineer : Nice post, GDB. One thing you forgot is that no athlete really becomes successfull by being Mr. Nice Guy. To be successfull in a highly competitive a
27 Itsjustme : You're obviously not familiar with former Red Wings Captain Steve Yzerman.
28 STT757 : I remember when he was acquitted in 1995, I was in College at the time and was getting ready for class as they were announcing the verdict. I was shoc
29 102IAHexpress : I’m not sure what else OJ was supposed to do that day in Las Vegas. What would you do if someone was trying to sell your family heirlooms that you i
30 MD11Engineer : No, I don't know him. I was thinking of guys like Tyson or the German heavyweight boxer Graciano Rocciciani, who, besides being a successfull heavywe
31 Oa260 : Justice finally done . May he rott in hell .
32 GDB : Even in the US with your gun laws, it's still America not Somalia. If he thought theft was going on, call the authorities. If not the police, hotel s
33 Dougloid : What OJ was supposed to do was work within the law like the rest of us do every day. I have not found anything that suggests that Simpson tried and f
34 Post contains links 102IAHexpress : The police hate OJ. They have prejudged him and will NOT help him. OJ's sidekick told the FBI three weeks ahead of time that OJ planned to confront t
35 Dougloid : I am quite sure that Simpson could have done very well with a call to Yale Galanter who he has on speed dial apparently. In ten minutes he could have
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