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Feds Arrest Ill. Gov Rod Blagojevich  
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3541 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3248 times:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...gojevich-link4,0,6440995.storylink

From the Chicago Tribune

Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his chief of staff John Harris were arrested today by FBI agents on federal corruption charges.

Blagojevich and Harris were accused of a wide-ranging criminal conspiracy that included Blagojevich conspiring to sell or trade the Senate seat left vacant by President-elect Barack Obama in exchange for financial benefits for the governor and his wife. The governor was also accused of obtaining campaign contributions in exchange for other official actions.


Not too surprising for anyone living in Illinois ...

More details to come I'm sure.


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

update

From the criminal complaint:

Count 1:

From in or about 2002 to the present, in Cook County, in the Northern District of Illinois, defendants did, conspire with each other and with others to devise and participate in a scheme to defraud the State of Illinois and the people of the State of Illinois of the honest services of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, in furtherance of which the mails and interstate wire communications would be used, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1341,1343, and 1346; all in violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 1349.

Count 2 excerpt:

received federal benefits in excess of $10,000, corruptly solicited and demanded a thing of value, namely, the firing of certain Chicago Tribune editorial members responsible for widely-circulated editorials critical of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, intending to be influenced and rewarded in connection with business and transactions of the State of Illinois involving a thing of value of $5,000 or more, namely, the provision of millions of dollars in financial assistance by the State of Illinois, including through the Illinois Finance Authority, an agency of the State of Illinois, to the Tribune Company involving the Wrigley Field baseball stadium; in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 666(a)(1)(B) and 2.

So, first count is a standard wire fraud time count, if I read it right (a-net lawyers, please elaborate if possible), but the second ... conspiring to fire Tribune editorial board members for the possible sale of Wrigley Field?

Never heard of that one before ...



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

The Chicago Tribune a while ago had an article that Blagojevich has a lower approval rating than Bush.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

other link...
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html

and more ... with some clarification on the Tribune/Wrigley Field thing.

From: (myself) & Network News Services, Chicago
Via: The Associated Press & Network News Services, Chicago.

Content --
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested Tuesday on charges of conspiring to get financial benefits through his authority to appoint a U.S. senator to fill the vacancy left by
Barack Obama's election as president.
Blagojevich is also charged with illegally threatening to withhold state assistance to
Tribune Co., the owner of the Chicago Tribune, in the sale of
Wrigley Field. In return for state assistance, Blagojevich
allegedly wanted members of the paper's editorial board who had
been critical of him be fired.
A 76-page FBI affidavit says the 51-year-old Democratic governor
was intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the last month
conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat for personal
benefits for himself and his wife, Patti.
The affidavit says Blagojevich discussed getting a substantial
salary for himself at a nonprofit foundation or an organization
affiliated with labor unions.
Blagojevich also talked about getting his wife placed on
corporate boards where she might get $150,000 a year in director's
fees. He's also allegedly discussed getting campaign funds for himself
or possibly a post in the president's cabinet or an ambassadorship
once he left the governor's office.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

More fun stuff.

3 former Illinois Governors have gone to prison in the past 35 years.


Otto Kerner, a Democrat who was governor from 1961 to 1968,
served less than a year of a three-year sentence after his 1973
conviction on bribery, tax evasion and other counts. He was
convicted of arranging favorable horse racing dates as governor in
return for getting horse racing association stock at reduced
prices. Kerner died in 1976.
_Dan Walker, a Democrat who was governor from 1973 to 1977,
served 1{ years of a seven-year sentence after pleading guilty in
1987 to bank fraud, misapplication of funds and perjury. The
charges were not related to his service as governor.
_George Ryan, a Republican who was governor from 1999 to 2003,
was convicted of corruption in 2006 for steering state contracts
and leases to political insiders while he was Illinois secretary of
state and then governor. He is serving a 6{-year prison term.
In addition, William Stratton, governor from 1953-1961, was
later indicted but was acquitted on charges of income tax evasion.



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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3047 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Here is the link to the affidavit for who ever is interested in reading it.

http://media.nbcchicago.com/document...+FINAL+complaint+cover+and+aff.pdf


User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1254 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3152 times:

Holy crap!

I just turned WLS 890 AM (Chicago All News station), and, well, WOW.

Another Illinois Governor in trouble with the law for malfeasance in office - go figure...



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8298 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

String this guy up in Springfield and let the public stone him. What a pathetic hack.


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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Get back on point---

This is a great day for politics.

We haven’t seen such an unvarnished bold shameless play for graft in a long time! This is so transparent and such a slam dunk, it’s not even funny. Blago can join Ryan in an adjacent cell. Too bad they can’t peg Daley into this and really take down a few big heads.

The recordings and script are carte blanche evidence of intent to extort a US Senate seat. Incredible. This guy must really be stupid—as are the people who voted for him. But he ran on a campaign of “change” too, right? Wow, stop me if this sounds familiar.


User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Unless there was something wrong with the way the evidence was handled or obtained, it appears this is a very convincing case. I wonder what will be revealed by these two when the Feds start squeezing hard, threatening them with a long sentence in a maximum security facility? Perhaps some more revelations on Illinois politics & especially Illinois politicians?


"When all is said and done, more will be said than done".
User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2813 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

I'll give this to the Governor. At least he knows how to swing for the fences. It takes an extra large pair to try and auction off the Senate seat of the President-Elect.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3046 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 20):
But he ran on a campaign of “change” too, right?

no, 'reform' was the word of choice.

Quoting Slider (Reply 20):
Too bad they can’t peg Daley

for what?
Daley admits he's a sleaze.
but he knows how to run Chicago.



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3039 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 23):
Unless he steps down what's to stop him?

The law. I'm sure the IL state supreme court is bought and paid for as well, half are from Chicago and are Daley’s goons anyhow (safe bet), but am implicated governor who overtly made unobfuscated statements of his intent to sell a US Senate seat should absolutely be challenged legally to prevent him from making any appointment whatsoever.

(NOTE: I don’t say that from any partisan standpoint, I’m sure the appointee will undoubtedly be a Democrat, but it cannot and should not, under ANY circumstances, be allowed to be excuted by Blagojevich).

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 22):
I'll give this to the Governor. At least he knows how to swing for the fences. It takes an extra large pair to try and auction off the Senate seat of the President-Elect.

Go big or go home, right?

"Pride goeth before a fall."


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3097 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 25):

cool. guilty until proven innocent ... but ... whatever.

Quoting DXing (Reply 23):
Next question, do they go after those who actually did pay to play?

that's dirty and delicious.

so will be finding out the name of a 'whistle blower.'



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3086 times:



Quoting STLGph (Reply 26):
cool. guilty until proven innocent ... but ... whatever

I’m beginning to think that when the discussion revolves around “bureaucrats” and “wrongdoing”, that guilt before innocence is a safer side to be on, haha..

I understand your point, but his own statements are damning. There’s no “I was taken out of context” crapola possible, although I’m sure the spin will be entertaining to watch. What a tool.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3084 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 25):
(NOTE: I don’t say that from any partisan standpoint, I’m sure the appointee will undoubtedly be a Democrat, but it cannot and should not, under ANY circumstances, be allowed to be excuted by Blagojevich).

I agree - I don't believe any recent Rod B. political appointees have kind of integrity left to stand on at all, which is unfortunate since he probably didn't get paid for every single person he appointed during his administration.

But yes, anyone he appointed to the Senate now would be damaged goods. As a citizen of Illinois, I'd prefer he just step down and let the Lt. Governor take over for the remainder of the term. (FYI, the Lt. Governor and Blago have never really gotten along, and as far as I can tell the indictment doesn't implicate Pat Quinn in any wrong doing during the administration).



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

If he ends up in prison maybe he can get Senator Durbin to write a letter to the president asking for a pardon.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3064 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 27):
I’m beginning to think that when the discussion revolves around “bureaucrats” and “wrongdoing”, that guilt before innocence is a safer side to be on, haha..

 Wink

Quoting Slider (Reply 27):
I understand your point, but his own statements are damning. There’s no “I was taken out of context” crapola possible, although I’m sure the spin will be entertaining to watch. What a tool.

i know, but we must all play fair. but it is admittedly dirty and delicious.


the one that will really get ragged on is Dick Durbin who was in favor of a Bush pardon for George Ryan.

and the one that will get ragged after that will be the Lt. Gov Pat Quinn ... guilty by association, even if he's the nicest guy on the street.



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User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 17):
um, not really.
you're making a point that doesn't exist.

Its not wether he's a D or an R....... he's a corrupt asshole and his affiliation (now) has nothing to do with political parties. Corruption can happen on both sides of the line... so it really deosn't matter.

Speaking of corrupt, maybe we can find a way to nail Mayor Daley and end up re-opening Meigs Field as a grass strip field.

[Edited 2008-12-09 09:50:35]


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

and before it even gets mentioned, the U.S. Attorneys have cleared the President-elect of having anything to do with these allegations against the (current) Illinois Governor.


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3046 times:



Quoting STLGph (Reply 32):
and before it even gets mentioned, the U.S. Attorneys have cleared the President-elect of having anything to do with these allegations against the (current) Illinois Governor.

Correct - it appears that Blago himself vindicated President elect Obama as well, with this tidy little tidbit:

From page 68, paragraph 104 of the indictment

Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package.../national/10illinois_complaint.pdf



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2944 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 31):
Speaking of corrupt, maybe we can find a way to nail Mayor Daley and end up re-opening Meigs Field as a grass strip field.

Yeah!

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 33):
Correct - it appears that Blago himself vindicated President elect Obama as well, with this tidy little tidbit:

From page 68, paragraph 104 of the indictment

Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

Holw eloquent, LOL!


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9518 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2939 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 31):
Speaking of corrupt, maybe we can find a way to nail Mayor Daley and end up re-opening Meigs Field as a grass strip field.

but i like Daley.

plus he's just near damn untouchable.

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 33):

so much for a christmas card.



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User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Throw the bum out!

Corruption should not be tolerated, period. If there is proof this clown messed up (and it looks like there are mountains of it) he should leave office and face the music. This is one of the most disgusting thing a "public servant" can do.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

What a 'shithead' this guy, pardon the language. He was rather bold and very careless... But one must admit, corruption exists everywhere in all forms, in every government in the world, but I love how the US just catches them. Job well done to the FBI.


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25 Victrola : Is this really news? It would be news if for once an Illinois Governor left office without going to prison.
26 Planespotting : I'm certainly not surprised that he's been arrested and charged. What I am surprised about is that it happened now. I assumed he would carry out the r
27 Yellowstone : It gets even better - some reports are suggesting that once Blagojevich told Obama that he'd need some compensation for appointing the president-elec
28 Planespotting : Source?
29 Post contains links Yellowstone : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1...lagojevich-indictmen_n_149608.html Also on the Fox affiliate in Chicago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPlWht
30 Planespotting : Thanks for the sources! If that's true, it's nice to see the Obama Administration did not sit on the sidelines when confronted with absolute corrupti
31 PSA727 : So we have another corrupt Chicago politician. Yawn. I think it's a requirement rather than a preference. Maybe he can be cellmates with the previous
32 STLGph : As an Illinois native/resident I'm just thinking "wow". But as a newsboy, this is like a hug from Jesus.
33 N6238P : As a lifetime resident of Illinois, I have to ask the question, why did it take this long to find something on him?
34 Slider : Spitzer thought that too! "I don't believe there's any cloud that hangs over me. I think there's nothing but sunshine hanging over me."
35 Mt99 : Daley did the right thing Miegs. He did it with no subtlety, but he did well for the city. It is now a major component of the city's Olympic Bid. Quo
36 Alias1024 : I'm sure the staff of The Daily Show and Colbert Report were dancing when this news broke. This is at least a few days of jokes for them.
37 Dougloid : It's really a new chapter in venal politics from the Land o' Lincoln. How ever do you fellows think of such schemes? That flopping sound you hear is
38 STLGph : eh, Daley is far far far more entrenched in his world than Spitzer was in his. because as a governor, you go "down"... but with trying to secure a se
39 National757 : it is a good year for the Illinois journalists who still have jobs...
40 LTBEWR : Gov. Blagojevich is beyond stupid, indeed he may very well be a psychopath. From the attempts to seek bribes for the appointment of a replacement for
41 STLGph : hey, we're hiring. or i should start saying "they" now... actually, the state democratic party has tried to lead several impeachment attempts. the on
42 Okie : This puts a little different light on things, some of us Okies are slow, did not connect Emmanuel to Illinois. I suspect any approach to Obama would
43 ER757 : Yep, good old Illinois politics - I haven't lived there for 20 years, but it's nice to see that some things never change....they all learned from the
44 STLGph : Emanuel replaced Blago in the House of Representatives. Speaking of House of Representatives, in Illinois, they're pretty much all back in Springfiel
45 Post contains images BN747 : Blago's 'thug-like' approach (personally in all this) calling 'O' a motherf**ker and 'F' him for NOT playing ball with him unmask him as being as unc
46 STLGph : depends. possibly, yes. but knowing Blago and his 'style,' unlikely. Blago will more likely go for the power people .. the ones who can pull the punc
47 Boeing4ever : This was certainly a welcome read for the morning. I knew it would happen, call me cynical about Illinois politicians if you must, but I don't doubt a
48 BN747 : From reports..he got the worse wake up call one could ever dream off.. " ... a 6am wake up call, saying, that this is the FBI and there are Federal A
49 Csturdiv : It is days like these that make me so proud to be from Illinois. We are just getting started. Since Obama is from Illinois, now all of our political c
50 Planespotting : Just because there were five labeled candidates for the Senate seat doesn't mean they were all offering "bids" or "bribes." I think there was only on
51 BN747 : Dude..turn it up a notch. Haven't you learned that the Gov't doesn't tell you everything? Incases of blatant breaches of power and corruption, you ca
52 Boeing4ever : And soon he'll be using one in front of a cell mate. It's only going to get worse for Rowdy Rod. Here I can only half agree with you. Politicians and
53 Boeing4ever : I should probably add a third rule... 3. Don't burn your bridges. Blago is going to feel truly alone in the coming months. Top ranking Illinois Democr
54 BN747 : Good Post...but my point was not aimed at Blago, I'm talking about 'who's telling you who was doing what'...that is the Feds. Just like regular cops
55 UAXDXer : ... and there we have it, the very scary truth!
56 Stlgph : Day 2 -- it's getting better. Mrs. Blago's on the hot seat now.
57 Post contains links STLGph : And her mouth sounds almost as potty as mine. Naughty!! http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...vich_patti_10dec10,0,1460523.story
58 Boeing4ever : Indeed. It'll be interesting to see what they can ferret out of Blagojevich. Judging by his sociopathic nature, he may be apt to spill a lot of info
59 STLGph : ehh... Chicago 2016 is a Mayor Daley thing. everyone keeps saying "Chicago Politics," "Daley Machine," etc. etc. ... but what the realization is ...
60 BN747 : Whoa,...I forgot all about that one. As this blows up...Illinois can now kiss that good bye! Holy S(*&!!! This family makes Tony & Camila Soprano loo
61 Boeing4ever : Not doubting you on this. After pissing off Dick Mell, getting into verbal spats with Daley, Madigan and so on, Blago's isolated. But Illinois' recor
62 Planespotting : No kidding - Blago doesn't get along with about half the democrats in the state, including State Sen. Michael Madigan, or AG Lisa Madigan (MMs daught
63 STLGph : Jesse Jackson Jr. is candidate #5. per abcnews.
64 Post contains links STLGph : and we're up and running. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conduc...Unbecoming/story?id=6431739&page=1
65 STLGph : it's not just get along, get along. Blago's had a number of screaming fights in very very public places with people. one time he went screaming off o
66 Planespotting : A bit surprising if it turns out to be true ... I was thinking it was more along the lines of Danny Davis.
67 STLGph : Wording is still careful to not really implicate direct involvement, sounds more like backdoor politics (as of now, allegedly); unless of course I mis
68 LON-CHI : The Jackson family knows how to play the Chicago politics game as well as anyone. Jesse Jr. & Luis Gutierrez were my top 2 picks for being named as c
69 BN747 : CNN list him as being a candidate too. With Blago and Mrs. Blago being hot heads...one of them is gonna sing. Most likely him. But sure everyone invo
70 Post contains links BN747 : Me yesterday.... Today - AP and Everyone else... ...OBAMA CALLS FOR BLAGOJEVICH TO RESIGN... ABC: Chicago Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. Is The Anonym
71 Superfly : With Jessie Jackson possibly going down, finally we'll nat have to hear about his silly Petone airport idea anymore. Even though he condemned his fath
72 ER757 : Don't hold your breath for this to happen - Richie had the greatest teacher in the world, dear old Dad - the master political crook of all time. But
73 LMP737 : Who is he going to sing about? If these people talked over the phone with him about this then the feds have them on tape. Although it appears JJ Jr d
74 Superfly : If Richard Daley is caught up in this and gets busted, he should be forced to hard labor. Maybe he should be forced to lay concrete for the runways h
75 LON-CHI : Well, because of city's budget crisis, the streets are no longer getting plowed as often or quickly, bus routes are getting cut and garbage collectio
76 Post contains links Confuscius : You can buy Sen. Obama's Senate seat on eBay. It's on auction but can "Buy it now" for $500,000.00 http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/12/the-b
77 Superfly : " target=_blank>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline....html Hey folks, let's put our money together here are Airliners.net and send me Superfly to t
78 Jaws707 : Since this story is just beginning and will be sure to dominate the news for quite some time I have to agree with some earlier posters who mentioned t
79 Superfly : Chicago can't be nowhere near as corrupt as Beijing.
80 BN747 : I disagree completely and I thinnk that's a bit harsh, in the sewer where Chicago/Illinois Politics reside..everyone smells! Heck, even Obama isn't s
81 LMP737 : That's because the costs of corruption are not as readily apparent as buses running on time. It's much harder to calculate the cost of someone gettin
82 Superfly : You do have a point there. No argument from me there. At least Chicago has better pizza. Damn that sucks! So far, her spokesperson claims she hasn't
83 LON-CHI : Don't be surprised if she's eventually indicted for that as well as her real estate deals with people who got state contracts from her husband. The F
84 AGM100 : Who else supports this ass being charged with treason? Man now that would be cool .... firing squad and all. PE Obama should push for it , make a exam
85 PSA727 : Add DC city govt to that list as well. High taxes, low return. Wrong! Since "pay to play" takes two parties involved to make it work. And do you thin
86 LMP737 : Yes I know it takes two to tango. But how does that change the fact that if JJ Jr is guilty he's only guilty of one thing? Blagojevich has a long lis
87 BN747 : Whoa I hope you're joking there...cuz NYC pizza kicks everybody's ass (except my friend's Pizza shop here in LA where I get free slices 2/47)! Also t
88 Superfly : Nope! I hope we can stay friends. Good point. My family members on the south side of Chicago aren't very happy with Jessie Jackson III as their Congr
89 BN747 : Nope..over a slice a pizza, you're going in the same bin as my (you know who they are) A.net arch enemies! And your family members are most likely 's
90 Superfly : More like Wasilla, Alaska.
91 ER757 : Yeah - Gino's East baby!!! And let's not forget Uno's and Malnati's Didn't know that - I've been gone too long I guess. As for streets not being plow
92 Superfly : Some of them as well as a few A.net members in the Civil av has call him the Congressman from Peotone. It's not even in his district and the people o
93 LTBEWR : It looks like Jessie Jackson Jr. won't get the opportunity and not just because of the scandal. Many leading Democrats believe the JJ Jr. would be a d
94 Superfly : He could easily be taken out in a Democratic primary in his own Congressional district. Southsiders in Chicago aren't exactly in love with him either
95 Boeing4ever : Ha! Mr. Inter-tubes has nothing on some of our politicos. Alaskan's are amateurs. No offense L-188. What a warped sense of civic pride we Chicagoans
96 BN747 : Absolutely, and on ABC News tonight, they said that it looked imminent that Blago was gonna make Jackson the next Ill. Senator..and Emmanual/Obama li
97 Sovietjet : My friend said something interesting and completely out of the blue today. He claims what Blagojevich did was his way of getting revenge on the USA fo
98 Post contains links and images Confuscius : I want Gus Savage, Mel Reynolds or Marty Russo back! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds [Edited 2008-12-11 11:32:39]
99 Mayor : Well, it took a heart attack to get his old man out of office. His successors weren't very successful, either........Bilandic, Byrne, Washington....a
100 Post contains images Confuscius : Don't know about Harold though. But you forgot Eugene Sawyer. Ah, the Council Wars...those were the days. Fast Eddie Vrdolyak
101 Slider : But Axelrod's mouth hasn't. And Emanuel's been conspicuously quiet, huh?
102 Post contains links LON-CHI : From the Suntimes.com "Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel ducks reporters' questions" http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...l-blagojevich-obama-12110
103 Seb146 : When it comes to politics, no one's hands are clean. That being said, I thought I heard somewhere that Emanuel was one of the first to take this to t
104 Superfly : You can say that again! Despite his shortcomings, he was still better than Jessie Jackson III.
105 Okie : How far up? First thing I have noticed everyone including Obama has been speaking "lawyer talk" all day today(Thursday). For all we know Fitz maybe h
106 LTBEWR : Rahm may be keeping quiet as he may have given testimony in the inditement of Blago and thus per the law may not be able or should disclose his testim
107 Slider : There’s no severing of anything except the heads of political enemies. Don’t forget—the way this works is that you keep your friends close, ene
108 LMP737 : Tell your freind to sit down and take a couple deep breaths. Then tell him the only thing Blago cares about is Blago.
109 LMP737 : He just plead guilty to mail and wire fraud.
110 Mayor : Makes you wonder how much longer Fitzgerald has in office. It wouldn't surprise me to see Obama's attorney general remove him from office if he got t
111 Mayor : You'll have to excuse my memory. Jane Byrne was still mayor when I left there. Besides, I was from the western suburbs and didn't remember EVERYTHING
112 PSA727 : If Obama wants to lose any political clout on the Hill, then he should go for it. Or maybe when Obama kept going on about change, he actually meant f
113 Confuscius : After becoming a Republican. Sorry Mr. Mayor, I thought you were the Cook Co. State's Attorney that split the white votes allowing Harold Washington
114 Mayor : Nope....the last name's the same and my nickname was was just a natural when I worked at ORD. I was gone by 1980. When did Harold get in office, anyh
115 Confuscius : He was elected in 1983 and reelected in 1987. He died later that year in November.
116 SOBHI51 : There should be a count 3 Terrible hair do
117 Mayor : That's what I thought. I was already in SLC by then. If Sawyer was before him, I missed most of him, too. I left ORD in 1980.
118 Confuscius : He succeeded interim mayor David Orr after Harold Washington died. He was appointed by the City Council. IIRC it was a raucous event with one alderma
119 Post contains images Confuscius :
120 Mayor : Ok.....here's a question. I realize that the governor has an office in the State of Illinois building in Chicago, but, doesn't he spend ANY time in Sp
121 Boeing4ever : Rod basically shunned the state's executive mansion since he didn't want to rip his children out of Chicago and have them switch schools. Understanda
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