StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3267 posts, RR: 6 Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
2010 Mercedes E-class sedan (rearquarter view)
2010 Mercedes E-class sedan (frontquarter view)
2010 Mercedes E-class sedan
"Expansive glass still fills an upright greenhouse, and even the car’s size will change very little. The platform underpinning the car seen here is an evolution of the previous-generation car’s, so expect dimensions to ebb and grow by mere fractions in any direction. Our sources tell us there will also be little change in the engine room, where the V-6 diesel in the E320 BlueTec and the V-8 in the E550 will receive only minor updates. E350 models will see an additional 32 horsepower arrive courtesy of the direct-injection V-6 from the 2009 SLK350. We can only hope the bawdy E63 AMG sees even more than its current 507 horsepower, but if it doesn’t, we’ll still love it.
Expect the rest of the wrapping to stay on the E-class until the Geneva auto show in March of 2009. The car will start to appear in American showrooms the following fall, with the AMG to drop sometime in 2010."
Aerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter): Anyone else see alot of Caddy CTS influence in the new E-class styling?
No, I do not. However, I do see S-Class and Maybach influences in the crisp angular lines of the sheet metal. I prefer the current 2008 E350 design.
It looks pretty similar to the current one except for squared lights that don't look good on it and an even more prominent grille that's verging on gaudy.
And somehow it strangely reminds me of a Kia or a Hyundai I've seen before....
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
WunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Countdown to Superfly hijacking the thread and turning it into "German fuel-guzzlers" flamefest - 10, 9, 8,...
Either way, not a big fan. Never really liked Mercedes to start with but this one reminds me of mid-90s statutory Japanese limousines (Nissan President comes to mind).
Let us hope Audi continues on its own path to making beautiful cars.
StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3267 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Francoflier (Reply 3): And somehow it strangely reminds me of a Kia or a Hyundai I've seen before....
The rear of the new E-class reminds me of the new Hyundai Genesis. The swoop line across the sides that dives down low towards the nose of the car and the angular headlamps look like they came directly from the Cadillac CTS.
[Edited 2008-12-09 23:52:47]
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At least it is a car that still has a unique styling, somehow German and Japanese cars look very much alike. What is the point in driving a Mercedes that could easily be a Lexus.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
It's just a mini S-Class. Nothing particularly revolutionary about it, but then again, I give Mercedes props for holding onto their designs for long periods of time. Keeps the resale value of their cars rather high, though the longest running designs that stay stagnant are those of their high end cars, like the SL500/600 that got it's first design in 1990 that lasted until then new generation which I believe is 2002 or 3, not sure.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38512 posts, RR: 80 Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4): Countdown to Superfly hijacking the thread and turning it into "German fuel-guzzlers" flamefest - 10, 9, 8,...
....3, 2, 1
What kind of gas-mileage does it get and what about the carbon footprint it leaves? They are withholding important mileage numbers from the public.
The polar ice-caps are melting!
Sorry WunalaYann, I have to give it the same reaction many give American cars when they roll out with new product.
Mdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4097 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The front of the car looks like a current design Lexus GS. Just pull the headlights up a little.
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StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3267 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Greggarious From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 361 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 4): Either way, not a big fan. Never really liked Mercedes to start with but this one reminds me of mid-90s statutory Japanese limousines (Nissan President comes to mind).
That's exactly what I was thinking, too.
I'm not a really big fan of the styling, which is as unremarkable as a Lexus (especially from the rear). Also, the grille looks incredibly oversized and disproportionate to the rest of the car. I personally liked the current look of the current E Class very much. I understand that Mercedes has to update its lineup to stay alive in this segment, but this was a step backwards...
StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3267 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 17): The front of the car looks like a current design Lexus GS. Just pull the headlights up a little.
2009 Hyundai Genesis
And the E-class looks too much like a Genesis - for double the price.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
Cptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2562 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Uhhh...it's a "no buy".
Some mfgr's seem to be progressing and some seem to be stirring old pots of soup. 2010? Very disappointing. regards...jack
Asuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2369 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
It's pretty blah. It looks okay, nothing earth shattering. I'm looking forward to seeing the improved interior materials.
25 Luv2cattlecall: To be fair..that's mostly because Lexus has been taking major cues from the Germans...not the other way around. They even debuted the new LS in Austr
26 Asuflyer05: Honestly the Genesis is a nice car but for $35k you can do a lot better. It has a leather dash shelf and wood but the Genesis I sat in had very poor
27 PanAm330: Ten thumbs down. It looks sooo cheap. They went way overboard with the angles and hard shapes. Shoulda been a little softer with it, IMO. The upcoming
28 LNv22: Don't want to start a BMW 5 series vs. Merc. E-class debate in a Merc E-class 2010 thread, but I perfer the BMW.. Nice pics, BUT, why the 3-series loo
29 ABQ747: It may be a decent car, but it's still a Hyundai. Nobody looking for a proper luxury car is going to walk into a dealership where you can also buy sh
30 MAH4546: Except for the fact that Hyundai is no longer known for that. They are known for being a full-line automaker now-a-days, and, so far, the Genesis is
31 ABQ747: They absolutely are. They still have some of the lowest priced vehicles in America. I still don't understand why Hyundai would build a vehicle like t
32 Cubsrule: I'll grant you lower cost and cheaper maintenance costs, but I'm not sure about reliability. M-B has gotten a lot better (not to mention the superior
33 MAH4546: Hyundai actually ranked #3 - behind Lexus and Porsche - in JD Power's survey in 2006. Personally, I think JD Power has no weight, but a lot of people
34 Cubsrule: On one hand, I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school of thought. On the other hand, though, I have to believe that if they want t
35 MAH4546: It is something they continue to look at, but I guess it depends how much they want to expand their brand into luxury markets. If it's just going to
36 ABQ747: But in JD Power's 2008 study, Hyundai was right on par with Ford, but still behind Lincoln and Mercury. Why even go through the expense of building t
37 MAH4546: Why not? Here's a fact: It's selling, and it's hitting its sales targets. The MKS isn't. It's no different than Toyota selling a $65,000 Land Cruiser
38 StasisLAX: This is what a friggin' Lincoln sedan should look like, IMO. And the idiots at Ford COULD have built it if they had the guts. Instead, they let Chrys
39 WunalaYann: You have just demolished your own point. CR is less biased than JD Power because it actually calls out manufacturer when their quality levels slip. A
40 Superfly: My heart skips a beat every time I see that 2004 Lincoln Continental! No Ford COULD have built it if it weren't for these unnecessary CAFE madates fr
41 MAH4546: Yes, he's sure. J.D. Power is of no value. It's a marketing tool. Public perception, however, doesn't lie. Look at Consumer Reports for real stats on
42 ABQ747: My main point is: why is this car being sold as a Hyundai? If Hyundai is really interested in selling a car of this class, then they should create a
43 MAH4546: I know what your point is. If the Genesis was selling poorly, I would 100% agree with you. However, the Genesis is not selling poorly. Therefore, it
44 Cubsrule: To be fair, though, Toyota and Ford each have two or three divisions for sales purposes (Lincoln/Mercury/Ford and Lexus/Toyota/Scion). Thanks, MAH. I
45 Fbgdavidson: Quite! Hyundais to me and many others aren't a luxury product. They can make them as reliable and a luxurious as they like but they have one problem.
46 Sunshine79: Remember the Rover that was modelled on the Jaguar? It reminds me of that - only worse looking. I'm not a fan of this car.
47 Flighty: Agreed 1,000%++++ Said it at the time, was shocked they never built it. Ford has a great heritage, and some great mindshare they could use to make pr
48 Flight152: Really? What purpose does Mercury serve which isn't already covered by Ford or Lincoln?
49 KAUSpilot: I immediately thought, "looks like a caddy" when I saw these pictures.
51 Flight152: I thought that was the purpose of Lincoln? Regardless 3 versions of the same car is excessive, to say thel least. The interior looks the same to me b
52 Superfly: Lincolns have different sheet metal and far more features than the Ford variant. They should ad wood grain as an option. I am not happy with Ford's d
53 Zone1: I believe that chime is the sound of Windows Automotive. You will also hear that on some Ford cars.
54 Cubsrule: For much of my lifetime, Mercury has been a way to sell Fords at Lincoln dealerships. I'm not arguing that it's smart, but Ford and Lincoln certainly