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Should Adultery Be A Crime?  
User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2911 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4008 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7786985.stm

very interesting case. Personally it should be a criminal offense. That way people would think long and hard before getting married thus reducing the divorce rate.....

[Edited 2008-12-17 07:03:29]


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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4004 times:

Yes and no.... I mean it's hardly a bad thing to do compared to murder or something like that but it isn't a nice thing either.

I wouldn't say people should be jailed for it, maybe a different punishment though. It's still wrong either way.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3998 times:

In the military I believe adultery is a crime.


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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3987 times:

No, it would be ridiculous to treat adultery as a crime.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3984 times:



Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
Personally it should be a criminal offense. That way people would think long and hard before getting married thus reducing the divorce rate.....

You should think long and hard about getting married as it is, but most don't. Criminalising adultery won't change that. There will be other reasons then for divorce.



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6785 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3970 times:

I’ll respond to this in a similar context as the abortion argument.

Whether it is legal or illegal is not the issue—it’s a strawman.

If you want less infidelity, you have to change the culture. The depraved, sex-crazed, impulsive and undisciplined culture that says it’s OK and accepts it. You have to teach fidelity, commitment and how marriages should work. The legal arena is really a moot point. It is reactive and only more destructive.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8021 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3935 times:

What about married couples that introduce other couples into their arena and/or allow other partners to be with their spouse?


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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3927 times:

It is. In many countries. Punishable by death. I don't think you'd like to live in such country.

So:

Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 3):
No, it would be ridiculous to treat adultery as a crime.



User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3909 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 6):
The depraved, sex-crazed, impulsive and undisciplined culture that says it’s OK and accepts it.

Wow. Is that really the way you see our culture?

You know, I agree with you when you say that legislation isn't the answer and that it must be addressed via cultural change. But instead of becoming more repressive, i.e., accusing anyone and everyone who enjoys having sex outside of wedlock of being depraved, sex-crazed, impulsive and undisciplined and turning them into pariahs, perhaps we should encourage people to marry only if it really suits them and only if they're very sincere about it.

I am still surprised at how many twenty-somethings I meet who feel incredible pressure to get married before they're thirty and have babies before they're thirty five. It seems to me a lot of people put tremendous energy into conforming to social norms instead of coming to an understanding of who they are and what they really seek in their journey through life.

I would rather we reduce the divorce rate by having fewer marriages and ensuring the marriages that do occur are quality ones.

As for those depraved people who like sex and don't really want to get married, let's stop shoving shame down their throats. Instead, let's teach them to act responsibly, i.e., use proper protection from STDs and unwanted pregnancies.


User currently offlineYanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1404 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3854 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
n the military I believe adultery is a crime

Technically in the State of Colorado, it is a crime to commit adultery. No penalty or anything is stated so it's never enforced.



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9772 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3833 times:
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Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 3):
No, it would be ridiculous to treat adultery as a crime.

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I don't care what you do in your bedroom or anyone else's bedroom, nor with whom you do it.

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
That way people would think long and hard before getting married thus reducing the divorce rate.....

Why, exactly, should the government or the rest of the population care whether you get divorced or not?

People should be thinking long and hard (that's what she said) about it anyway. But your thoughts don't tend to be very coherent in the heat of the moment.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11529 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Well, since religion is being slowly introduced into some states by telling us who we can and can not marry, why not just take it to that level as well? After all, the Founding Fathers wrote into the Constitution that the religion of the United States shall be Christianity, right? Marrige between one man and one woman was written into the Constitution by the Founding Fathers and approved by the Contenintal Congress, right? Just like how the official language in the Untied States is English, we all have to be Christians and heterosexual by law?

Should adultery be a crime in the United States? No. I think American society needs to stop being two-faced about things. Like getting all offended if a boob is shown on TV but being told it is okay to go to strip clubs or it's okay to watch the "Girls Gone Wild" DVDs. After seeing these things for a while, it's like: Who cares?



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3805 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 1):
Yes and no.... I mean it's hardly a bad thing to do compared to murder or something like that but it isn't a nice thing either

Adultery is nothing to sniff at. I think it ranks close to murder. It causes nearly as much damage to the victims. It destroys families and society pays a terrible price for that.

I think it should be criminalized. Adulterers a the very least violate a serious contract.

People who are willing to cheat the person they are supposed to love most in the world cannot be trusted. I wouldn't want to do business with that kind of person. They certainly wouldn't think twice about screwing me over if they do it to their spouse.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3789 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 4):

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
Personally it should be a criminal offense. That way people would think long and hard before getting married thus reducing the divorce rate.....

You should think long and hard about getting married as it is, but most don't. Criminalising adultery won't change that. There will be other reasons then for divorce.

Well said! 110% agree with ya. I mean come on as a country we should move forward and not backwards.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 13):
Adultery is nothing to sniff at. I think it ranks close to murder. It causes nearly as much damage to the victims. It destroys families and society pays a terrible price for that.

I think it should be criminalized. Adulterers a the very least violate a serious contract.

People who are willing to cheat the person they are supposed to love most in the world cannot be trusted. I wouldn't want to do business with that kind of person. They certainly wouldn't think twice about screwing me over if they do it to their spouse.

Great with your thoughts then no more politicians for starters. Not many people can be trusted that is why we have banks, locks on our doors, we buy insurance to covers losses.



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3782 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 12):
Well, since religion is being slowly introduced into some states by telling us who we can and can not marry, why not just take it to that level as well?

It's not about religion it is about stopping behaviors that harm society. Adultery is bad for families and bad for society. We all pay the price for the behavior of selfish adulterers.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3772 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 15):
It's not about religion it is about stopping behaviors that harm society. Adultery is bad for families and bad for society. We all pay the price for the behavior of selfish adulterers.

Oh please this is 2008, we have an African American President starting next year. Adultery is a think of the past to say the least. Get over it, people cheat and they always will. And to some simple flirting is considered cheating. If your so worried or non trusting to not put yourself out there, then stay home cut yourself off to what could have been. To me that is no kind of life I would like to live.



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9772 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3769 times:
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Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 13):
People who are willing to cheat the person they are supposed to love most in the world cannot be trusted. I wouldn't want to do business with that kind of person. They certainly wouldn't think twice about screwing me over if they do it to their spouse.

Should the law mandate that you love your spouse more than anyone in the world?

There's simply no way to enforce something like that.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 13):

I think it should be criminalized. Adulterers a the very least violate a serious contract.

Is it written in a marriage license that you shall not sleep with anyone else?

If it's a religious contract that you're talking about, then I would think going to hell is punishment enough.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11529 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3769 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 15):
Adultery is bad for families and bad for society. We all pay the price for the behavior of selfish adulterers.

What about the selfishness of a partner that decides to gain 150 pounds or decides to quit their job to sit at home and play PS3 or decides to work 18 to 20 hours a day instead of being at home? What about the people that do not have sex with another person, but, instead, abandons the relationship for their own selfish reasons?



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User currently offlineSkyyKat From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3744 times:



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 3):
No, it would be ridiculous to treat adultery as a crime.

Correct

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 12):
Adulterers a the very least violate a serious contract.

Where does it say a married person cant have sex outside the marriage?


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12214 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3730 times:
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Quoting Yanksn4 (Reply 9):

Technically in the State of Colorado, it is a crime to commit adultery.

Minnesota as well.

609.36 ADULTERY.
Subdivision 1.Acts constituting.

When a married woman has sexual intercourse with a man other than her husband, whether married or not, both are guilty of adultery and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both.
Subd. 2.Limitations.

No prosecution shall be commenced under this section except on complaint of the husband or the wife, except when such husband or wife is insane, nor after one year from the commission of the offense.
Subd. 3.Defense.

It is a defense to violation of this section if the marital status of the woman was not known to the defendant at the time of the act of adultery.


So basically a married woman can only have sex with her husband...a married man on the other hand can have sex with either his wife or any unmarried woman  Smile



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User currently offlineWN700Driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Oh please. I can think of at least a few situations where I regret not "cheating" when I had the chance.

I married a woman who promptly gained 60lbs, a nasty tendency towards "domestic issues," quit her job (but still did virtually no house mx), and started going all over the country at will (I work for an airline), bought pets she knew I was allergic to, and spent us into the third circle of hell while I was stuck holding the bag, so to speak. All of this in the space of a year. Since that is obviously not what I wanted to marry (or intended to, to put it another way,) I feel that the contract was breached long before I could have "cheated."

An opportunity arose, but I chose the so -called high road for no reason other than that I could say I was better than that. Better than what?, I now wonder. Better than having the love of my life in my life so that I could prove something to some arrogant broad I happened to share an address with?

I know I sound like a jerk (and I am... for not taking the opportunity I had...) but the point is that life is shades of grey, people. Not all cheaters are bad or weak people. In fact, I have a theory now that at least 50% of the men an women that get cheated on did something to deserve it.


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3682 times:



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 10):
Why, exactly, should the government or the rest of the population care whether you get divorced or not?

The government and much of the population spends a lot of time pontificating about the "sanctity of marriage".

So it makes sense that if they are as genuinely concerned about it as they claim, they'd view adultery and divorce as threats to that sanctity as well.

But since most of them (now over 50%) are divorced, and many are adulterers, it's easier to go after the gays (instead of themselves) as a threat to their esteemed institution.



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User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Protect Marriage...Ban Divorce!


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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9772 posts, RR: 27
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3667 times:
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Quoting Diamond (Reply 21):

The government and much of the population spends a lot of time pontificating about the "sanctity of marriage".

I am aware of all that. My question was "why?"

A word is just a word. Calling something "marriage" doesn't mean the two people in it are suddenly more committed to each other than they were 5 minutes ago.

Nor should it. If you need a title to make your feelings "official", then you probably shouldn't be getting married in the first place.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3650 times:



Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
Should Adultery Be A Crime?

No.

Other question: Do you want the whole Western World to go back to the stone age, by making Adultery a crime again (except in places, where adultery is still a crime)?

Quoting Max999 (Reply 22):
Ban Divorce!

No. Even without adultery, a divorce can always happen.


25 ShyFlyer : While adultery is wrong, making it a crime won't solve anything. Banning divorce wouldn't solve anything either. Doing so would deny people in an abus
26 Confuscius : Ever heard of mail order bride? You might want to try it. Green card...love you long time.
27 Slider : I agree that not all cheaters are bad people. It happens, literally, to people of ALL cross-sections, cultures, religions, socioeconomic strata, etc.
28 Mir : Equal protection kind of got thrown out the window there.... -Mir
29 WN700Driver : Hmmmm... I might want to if there is a such thing as a mail order live in gf who has no desire to legally and civily bind you to her but still comes
30 Max999 : Should have clarified myself to say that banning divorce would help protect the sanctity of marriage.
31 IAirAllie : You missed the point. I wrote that in a separate paragraph for a reason. I was expressing my personal feelings on Adulterers in the second paragraph
32 Luv2fly : And verbal contracts are not enforceable in a court of law.
33 Vikkyvik : You were expressing your personal feelings in the first paragraph as well: I'm sorry, but I think it's slightly ridiculous to say that cheating on so
34 IAirAllie : That is not true in the slightest. Especially when the verbal contract is entered in front of witnesses. Where are you getting your legal council? Tr
35 LTU932 : What sanctity of marriage? Even with all divorces, you will be "unable" to protect this so-called sanctity. Many people don't even have church weddin
36 Zkpilot : I doubt it will return as a crime. However there should still be punishment for it in some form... ie if a couple gets divorced because one has commit
37 FlyDeltaJets87 : You are correct. Adultery is a crime in the military, although it doesn't result in a court martial but an Article 15 (at least in the Air Force), wh
38 Vikkyvik : That wasn't nitpicking. It was rather obvious. But take it easy. No offense intended. OK, fair enough on that point. I generally agree with you on th
39 Post contains images Don81603 : If you were on the bitter end of infidelity, you'd see things through a different set of glasses, my friend In many ways it causes more damage than m
40 Post contains links Superfly : Personal issue that is no one else's business but those involved. This then, every guy should read over this is prior to getting married. http://www.n
41 FlyDeltaJets87 : I've never been cheated on but I have friends who have been, and the emotional damage is pretty severe. I like how Carrie Underwood delt with it in "
42 Superfly : Total bull$h!t. It's not your employer's business unless it was with a co-worker and was causing an interruption in business. If my house is on fire,
43 Acheron : Instead of criminalizing adultery, how about we go and treat the root issue that would cause someone to think about it. If you get what want and need
44 Vikkyvik : I've been cheated on, my friend. Not by a wife, because I haven't gotten married yet (and don't plan to anytime soon). I'm not entirely sure how that
45 Asuflyer05 : I've often wondered if open-relationships and couples who swing should be considered adultery. Specifically under the UCMJ. I personally don't view i
46 Luv2fly : Certainly not you. If the contract is/was that important you get it in writing. And a witness might give some credibility though it will only be as g
47 FlyDeltaJets87 : Wow. Did you A) purposely only quote part of my post or B) just not read the rest of it? I believe I answered your question, explaining why the milit
48 Superfly : Are you saying that someone who has an affair has a lower respect for human life? Please clarify. Some "friend" you are. I don't want to go negative
49 OlegShv : So, according to your logic, only married people should be employed because you can't trust single ones (they can cheat all they want and you can't d
50 LTBEWR : I don't think adultery should be a crime if it is between consentual adults and not in a public place. Of course, it does lead to crimes such as mansl
51 Tsaord : I wonder. If the sex lives of us Americans didn't deteriorate once we get married would adultery and cheating be cut down??
52 Vikkyvik : A) Yes. I was simply being succinct in my quoting. Doesn't change my response. B) No. I read the whole thing. Doesn't change my response. I wouldn't
53 FlyDeltaJets87 : I don't know where I said you can't trust single people so I have no idea where you're drawing your conclusions from. For the first one you quoted, t
54 Aaron747 : Talk about painting with a broad brush. Not all adultery, much less sex outside of marriage, is selfish. Some people have open relationships and rath
55 Superfly : ERR: SYNTAX catch (e) { var str = 'typeof e: ' + typeof e + 'nnContents of e: ' + e + 'nn'; if (typeof e == 'object') { for (var p in e) { if (p == '
56 IAirAllie : A person who cheats is loyal only to themselves. I would doubt their loyalty and distrust them. A person who is honest in their personal dealings is
57 WunalaYann : While I admire the fact that you value honesty so much, I also believe that your categorisation of adultery as a crime of a gravity close to that of
58 Francoflier : Excellent point. And believe me, it's not just Americans who suffer from that. Or is a child raping psychopath... You certainly can't measure the 'va
59 PanHAM : Amazing to see how some states interfere with the private lifes of their citizens. Whatever happens between two consenting adults, be they married to
60 AerorobNZ : No Way. It's a natural part of the animal kingdom, and a perfectly effective method of ensuring your genes survive.
61 WN700Driver : Ok, guy, so if you're tired of your job, or even the concept of working hard for a not so great living, why not quite your martyr act and just win th
62 767Lover : Sometimes things are criminalized simply as a means to an end -- for example, making it a crime ensures that by law the "victim" (such as a wife who h
63 OhTheDrama747 : While I agree that it is wrong, I would not support it in becoming illegal. The courts and jails are full enough as it is without this. Could you imag
64 TSS : There are at least two sides to every story. Using the graffiti'd boat as the only evidence, how do we know the "young lady"/wife isn't a raging para
65 Slider : With due respect, I think there is ZERO correlation between marriage and the military in the context you put it in. As I said before, infidelity stem
66 TransIsland : That's your point of view. I could argue that a sexually frustrated, monogamous person could be as much a burden on society as an emotionally hurt, c
67 IAirAllie : Thats fine as long as the two consenting adults aren't sneaking around on someone they are married to. If they have to lie or hide it from a partner
68 OlegShv : OK, let me get to you from a different side. Consider that the guy sitting next to you in combat is SO loyal to their spouse, that they could possibl
69 Seb146 : Yes. That's right. The cost of sleeping around: emotional pain. The cost of vandalism: Thousands of dollars. Karma. Why should we legislate morality
70 UAL757 : The only punish someone should get for adultery is divorce, because obviously they don't care about their partner. Ugh.
71 PSA727 : It's bad enough that the government got into the marriage business to begin with, but to make adultery a crime only makes the problem worse. Marriage
72 RussianJet : Yes, it should be illegal. No, it shouldn't lead to death sentences or the chopping of of limbs, or even prison, but there should certainly be penalti
73 Luv2fly : Please! Making some far reaching generalizations there! My point is how far we have come to have elected as are President an African American and we
74 Vikkyvik : You still used the word private. Why should the government be involved? Ugh, already covered here: And since I never got an answer to this, I'll post
75 RussianJet : I fundamentally disagree that it is something that should or has been consigned to history. What is your rationale for saying this? Marriage is, and
76 Slider : Hold up a minute—first, my post made no overtures about ‘legislating morality’. I believe marriage is not only one o the foundations of Western
77 Luv2fly : We will have to agree to disagree as you see it as the end all of end alls. I see it as a realistic view of life. Shit happens, you can choose to how
78 RussianJet : You are obviously right up to a point about how one might choose to react to a situation, but the effects of adulterous situations can be devestating
79 Superfly : That's assuming she had career aspirations in the first place.
80 WunalaYann : Agreed. Therefore marriage is the same - you are perfectly free to choose to get married, or to stay single. The possibility that your spouse (or you
81 PanHAM : Adultery is a private affair and nothing any state has to get involved in. Married people are old enough to handle their affairs and adultery is cert
82 IAirAllie : It's not a far reaching generalization at all. Cheating involves dishonesty and a lack of integrity. People who are dishonest in one aspect of their
83 RussianJet : A specious argument. Stoning is not being proposed.
84 WunalaYann : There is a missing step in your line of reasoning. In your own words, ruining families is bad for society therefore it should be legislated. The issu
85 Superfly : What if they don't have kids but are still married? Would you apply the same rule to CEOs that run companies in to the ground and escape with golden
86 FlyDeltaJets87 : Do you really want to go there? I mean, if I beat my wife in private, should the government be required to stay out? I know it sounds rediculous but
87 Vikkyvik : You ignored the first sentence of my statement. You, yourself, used the word private in reference to a married couple's business. So I was wondering
88 Superfly : I say there is no correlation at all. In fact, some of the best fathers I know that have excellent relationships with their children and children tha
89 WN700Driver : Sorry, sweetheart. That does explain a lot though. Secondly, no, it is an excellent comparison. You want your cake and the ability to eat it. By your
90 Luv2fly : Being a gay male I am unable to "legally" marry my partner. Like McCain! Decorated war hero, yet till a whore monger! If you choose to let it. Some o
91 Vikkyvik : So if your boss finds out you're dating a (insert race here) person, then he can fire you for it? If your boss finds out that you attended an Obama r
92 IAirAllie : Nor was jail time necessarily. Many criminal acts do not have jail time associated with them. There are other penalties that can be applied. I was ar
93 Luv2fly : And so against the law it is not even funny. Totally relavent with your lak of logic he should be fired from his job OK when you can bag it up at the
94 IAirAllie : How is firing someone for being dishonest illegal?
95 Luv2fly : Firing someone for what they say or do on ones own time is justifiable how and why? Big brother or the Nazi regime all over again! You tell me the di
96 IAirAllie : It is completely justifiable if it is a behavior that can negatively impact their work or reflect poorly on the company. A teacher can't be a strippe
97 Luv2fly : Why not? What she does on her free time does not impact her teaching ability! Or is it that you do not approve of stripping. Until you get caught by
98 JRDC930 : Yes, it should be a crime. If i had my way men would be castrated when they cheat, we get far to much of a bad name from all the cheating jiggalos aut
99 WunalaYann : Flying a plane, riding a train, driving a car, sailing a ship, or simply packing groceries in a plastic bag always and systematically cause severe, d
100 Acheron : Funny to read those who think that somehow they have the moral grounds to judge others and their actions in their private life, and them being totally
101 Luv2fly : Your are so right. Until you walk in someone shoes do not judge them.
102 WN700Driver : Yeah Luv. Amazing how something so simple can be lost on so many. I just know there will be a ton of excuses or rationalizations when this broad finds
103 JRDC930 : Funny those that dont have a system of morality who think somehow they have th a-moral grounds to judge others and their actions in their private lif
104 JRDC930 : Easy to say when you find out you have an STD because some one cheated on you... i guess morality isnt a priority in the world any more, certainly no
105 Acheron : And who exactly are you to talk about my "system of morality" or even say I don't have one?. Who named you moral police, anyway?.
106 IAirAllie : I've found my self in the situation where an attractive interesting married guy has made a pass at me plenty of times. I respect myself and the women
107 FlyDeltaJets87 : Not illegal to have people booted in the military for it. Bwahahahaha. Now we're comparing going to a political rally or being in a band to adultery.
108 WN700Driver : Insert belly laugh here. We've all been there, and yes, it is quite easy to turn down offers we find offensive. I happen, for example, to find infant
109 IAirAllie : I was very attracted and interested in my flight instructor, but he was married so I kept it professional. Again I've made the decision not to go the
110 WunalaYann : For what it is worth, I still do not see how adultery should be criminalised, ahead of many more pressing issues. We are still talking about consenti
111 JRDC930 : And who named you the morality critc? My point is you criticize people for wanting to criminalize a universaly accepted act of immorality, while pass
112 RussianJet : By virtue of the fact that even in this forum there are some who appear to argue that adultery is not all that huge a deal, I would say that it is fa
113 Vikkyvik : I didn't make any such comparison. I was directly responding to: "Personal life" involves quite a bit more than committing adultery. Just because I d
114 Francoflier : No it doesn't. Again, you are speaking from your own belief, not an objective standpoint. I am quite sure a lot of people could vouch for the integri
115 RussianJet : When you choose to marry you make a very public, legally-binding commitment.
116 TransIsland : According to you, I guess they better seek political asylum in a country where you don't have a say. I think you and I have very different visions of
117 MBMBOS : I disagree with your hypothesis and I think you'll have a hard time supporting it with facts. Of course there is a certain small portion of the popul
118 WunalaYann : Great post. Factual, fair and eloquent.
119 Superfly : Excellent post. FlyDeltaJets87: Do you have a lower opinion of a bachelor/bacheloret than a married person? Would you used that against someone in hi
120 FlyDeltaJets87 : So for the second time in this thread, since I've already been asked this once - I don't know why I'd have a lower opinion of someone who's single, e
121 Superfly : It very obvious. Anyhow, I just hope you change your attitude about people who have had challenges in their marriage/personal lives before/if you get
122 JRDC930 : It provides closure; Adultery is the easiest way to destroy credebility and charachter. Its sad that people here think you can cheat and still b cons
123 Superfly : They'll all burn in hell too.
124 DocLightning : Why does everyone want to legally define marriage? What about people who get married, but maintain an open marriage? Should that be criminalized? What
125 RussianJet : You have a point there Doc, but what about when you involve yourself in mine by carrying on with my spouse? Because it is a legally-binding contract.
126 Luv2fly : Again it is not a tangible item. So explain how you can have a contract on emotions.
127 RussianJet : Nor are certain contracted services, for example, but to be honest that's not the point. Obviously you can't legislate emotions, but surely you're no
128 JRDC930 : When one persons life involves some one else then itsnot just limited to you personal life. When your personal life harms others then its the laws jo
129 LH423 : Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that while that's a nice opinion I'm going to need to see some sources that can give cold hard facts on that gem. No
130 FlyDeltaJets87 : Because it already is legally defined? Couldn't agree more. I still want to know why I should trust someone, either in a personal or professional man
131 WN700Driver : Honesty is ugly thing sometimes, so I'll break it down for you. If your wife and Doc, hypothetically speaking, have it on, there are two possible rea
132 RussianJet : Sorry, but life is about a few more than 'two reasons'. It's nice to try and simplify things to such an empirical level, but that is not how it goes
133 WN700Driver : All the more reason why you can't punish someone for being a human being. They only people trying to simplify anything are the ones who wish to live
134 RussianJet : But if you don't agree with that, nobody has to get married! Or maybe just different experience from yours?
135 WN700Driver : Yes, and right now no one has to go to jail for adultery. Sounds good. Also, you let me know where your experience shows that divorce is easy and affo
136 RussianJet : I said that where? (assuming you are responding to my post?) Again, I said that where now? I don't even think it should be easy, like it shouldn't be
137 WN700Driver : Like it would be to say that there aren't good reasons for adultery. You can't have it both ways there.
138 RussianJet : I don't believe I am, you are referring to different issues altogether. Marriage is something you either choose to enter into or not. Morally, it cou
139 MBMBOS : Really? Did you not read my post quoting you directly?
140 Slider : Not necessarily. In some states, it's not germane at all, stranglely enough.
141 JRDC930 : So you just flip around my argument? Semantics isnt it. Im glad im not your friend, i d hate to have to "box you in" with decency,morality, and expec
142 FlyDeltaJets87 : Once I got to the parts involving Bush-bashing I just stopped reading. Amazing how some people, no matter what the topic, can't get through a thread
143 RussianJet : Says a lot in itself really, doesn't it?
144 WN700Driver : So what do you recommend? A pilary perhaps? Or perhaps your like-minded friends running the taliban resurgence can come up with something... What you
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