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Ford Debuts 2010 Mustang Shelby GT500  
User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3286 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7707 times:

At the 2009 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Ford will debut the 2010 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500. The GT500 has a 5.4-liter supercharged V8 cranking out 540 horsepower and a massive 510 lb-ft of torque. The engine is matched up with a six speed manual transmission with a limited-slip differential as standard equipment.

2010 Shelby GT500


The new GT500 is fitted with new sheetmetal that makes it more aggressive-looking than the "garden-variety" 2010 Mustang GT. The exterior shows a much larger grille, an power dome hood, as well as a functional air extractor in the hood. At the rear of the car, the trunklid features a huge spoiler with letters that spell out "SHELBY" across the entire rear of the car. The car rides on standard 18-inch wheels and tires, with 19-inch aluminum wheels available as optional equipment. Four-piston Brembo brakes are standard.

Inside, there's leather seating with aluminum accents around the gauges. Additional sound deadening was used to keep a reasonable noise level inside. The car is electronically limited to 155 mph and 0-to-60-mph is expected to be approximately 4.3 seconds.

The Shelby GT500 will be available as a coupe or convertible models. The car should be on sale at Ford dealership by June 2009.

Article with many photos: http://jalopnik.com/5120297/2010-ford-shelby-gt500-coupe-convertible

I think this new Shelby Mustang is HOT!   

[Edited 2009-01-01 01:47:10]


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7659 times:

I drove a rental Mustang Shelby "GT-H" on a trip earlier this year to the LA area. Plenty or bhp and torque, but the thing handled like a '76 TownCar, poor steering response, lousy brakes, and all over the road. Hope they have that hammered out in this new edition.


Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

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Just the car the current market / environment needs !

Good luck Mullaly, next time drive this one to Washington & Obama if you dare !



Good luck US car industry..


User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2373 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7605 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !

What do you suggest they build?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12175 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7526 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter):
I think this new Shelby Mustang is HOT!

I agree.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !

Then don't buy one.  banghead 


User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3286 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7519 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !

The Shelby GT500 will be produced in extremely limited number, with many of them likely going into private car collections. This is a halo specialty car, marketed to wealthy sports-car collectors, so Ford doesn't need to make it fuel efficient or environmentally uber-friendly.

If someone is in the marker for maximum fuel-efficiency and minimum carbon-footprint, try a 2010 Fusion hybrid or an Escape hybrid.



"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2810 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7510 times:

Billions in bailout money..... hard at work!

Didn't Nero once fiddle while Rome burned?

Goodbye NorthAmerican auto industry. And yes, I know Ford didn't ask for any bailout money THIS TIME..... but if you keep building niche cars for a niche market, the survival of your company will be in doubt.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7503 times:



Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 1):
Plenty or bhp and torque, but the thing handled like a '76 TownCar, poor steering response, lousy brakes, and all over the road. Hope they have that hammered out in this new edition.

Uhm, yeah, right. It's a muscle car. They're meant to handle like boats.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

When the lights got red, environmental groups roared their voices, Al Gore made his movie, Ford (and the others) selected to totally ignore everything and put billions in developping cars like these. They knew better then let the world tell them what to do, hell no. Good financing is the trick.

Man. Did they hit the wall.

The government had to jump in big time to save their asses and they are still on live support.

By launching this car Mullaly shows all the green stuff is just a mask he puts on when required.

The fuel is chaep now so what the hack. He (they) apparently haven't learned a f.ck.

The sad thing is great brands will dissapear is they don't start listening & acting accordingly..

Hopefully the Obama movement can start making a change, starting to dismattle the believe you need cars like that, e.g. to be happy.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12175 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7349 times:



Quoting Photopilot (Reply 6):
Billions in bailout money..... hard at work!

Ford didn't take any of the government (our) money, nor did they ask for any.

Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
When the lights got red, environmental groups roared their voices, Al Gore made his movie, Ford (and the others) selected to totally ignore everything and put billions in developping cars like these. They knew better then let the world tell them what to do, hell no. Good financing is the trick.

Keesje, do you know what the best selling vehicle in the world is? It is the Ford F-150 pick-up truck that gets 15-20 MPG. Ford, GM, Chrysler and other OEMs build what the people want to buy. We will not actually know how much money the auto makers lost in 2008 (if they actually lost any money) until the last of the 2008 models are sold. True, their books currently show they lost money in 2008. That is because they have paid all their expenses for 2008, already. But, they still have 2008 model inventory to sell, and that money, if their are profits will end up being added to the 2008 year.

In Fort Worth, it is difficult to find a left over 2008 Ford F-150. There may be a few still at dealerships, but they are hard to find as Ford has heaverily discounted them. There are no 2008 Ford Ranger pick-up trucks in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, and only a few of the 2009 Rangers.

I have also scene several 2009 Ford F-150s and Chevy Silverados on the road lately. So, GM and Ford pick-up trucks are still selling, and out selling Toyotas, Hondas, Hyundias, and Kias.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler need to build what car and truck buyers want, not what the US Congress tells them to build.

BTW, I'll be buying my new 2009 Ford F-150 in a few months.


User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2373 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7328 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 9):
That is because they have paid all their expenses for 2008, already. But, they still have 2008 model inventory to sell, and that money, if their are profits will end up being added to the 2008 year.

Ummm I don't think that's how it works.


User currently offlineRomeoKC10FE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7317 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
Uhm, yeah, right. It's a muscle car. They're meant to handle like boats.

Uhhhh yeah...... WRONG!! No they are not meant to handle badly.This a modern day car, you can't compare any of the cars from the 60's and 70's in terms of handling to what is rolling out of the factories today. Back then all they cared about was straight line acceleration, but that wouldn't work today. Even a four door sports sedan from today can out handle anything from that era, and the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger are actually called a Pony cars.


User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2810 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7307 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 9):
Ford, GM, Chrysler and other OEMs build what the people want to buy.

Which of course is total nonsense. You perhaps have heard of the 2nd most famous street in New York City.... after Wall Street?

It's called Madison Avenue.... you know, that place where all the multi-billion advertising agencies are located. SELLING and PROMOTING the products that companies want to bring to your attention, and tempt you to buy. '

Millions and Millions of people didn't suddenly walk into car dealerships and one day say.... "Hey, make me a SUV because that's what I want". They were spoon fed advertising images of macho people driving tough vehicles and hey.... you too can be macho and tough if you drive one of our SUVs. That's the purpose of advertising, which all car companies spend bilions of dollars of advertising on.

"What the people want"....... or what they are pushed (subtley) to buy?


User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 7280 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 5):
The Shelby GT500 will be produced in extremely limited number, with many of them likely going into private car collections.

I thought that the owners of the original Shelby GT500 were suing Ford based on the fact Ford said that there would only be a limited amount of these cars made ever and now they are producing more which will dilute the price of those already sold?

Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
starting to dismattle the believe you need cars like that, e.g. to be happy.

But if it makes a person happy and they can afford it, who are you to tell them they can't have it? BTW I believe there are more than a few super cars produced on your side of the pond. Why don't you work on ending their production lines and leave ours alone?


User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3286 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 7269 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 13):
But if it makes a person happy and they can afford it, who are you to tell them they can't have it?

Absolutely spot on! The point of this type of sports car is for the owner to thoroughly enjoy it. It's got extremely good handling and acceleration, it's great to look at, and it's collectible. It sure as hell would put a smile on my face anytime I would drive it. Some people still enjoy DRIVING a true capable sports automobile, rather than simply commuting in their appliance-like Camrys, Accords, and Impalas!  yes 



"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety!" B.Franklin
User currently offlineABQ747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 7264 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
When the lights got red, environmental groups roared their voices, Al Gore made his movie, Ford (and the others) selected to totally ignore everything and put billions in developping cars like these. They knew better then let the world tell them what to do, hell no. Good financing is the trick.

The same Al Gore who flies on private jets, owns several mansions and a whole fleet of gas guzzling SUVs? That guy is a crook.

Quoting StasisLAX (Reply 14):
Absolutely spot on! The point of this type of sports car is for the owner to thoroughly enjoy it. It's got extremely good handling and acceleration, it's great to look at, and it's collectible. It sure as hell would put a smile on my face anytime I would drive it. Some people still enjoy DRIVING a true capable sports automobile, rather than simply commuting in their appliance-like Camrys, Accords, and Impalas!

 checkmark  If I had the money, I would definitely purchase one of these cars, along with a new F-350 Super Duty.  Big grin



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 4 hours ago) and read 7173 times:



Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 11):
This a modern day car, you can't compare any of the cars from the 60's and 70's in terms of handling to what is rolling out of the factories today.

Yes, there has been (marginal) improvement, but when you compare the handling of a current "pony car" to, say, a European one of the same category (more so if it's German) the European's will always out-handle the ponies, even with less power. Except for maybe the GT40, which really isn't a pony and is more European than American, for that matter.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 7156 times:



Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 3):
Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !


What do you suggest they build?

Oh, I don't know-good, solid, fuel-efficient cars, that aren't over-priced, that will sell well, and help get their asses out from under this crisis. Just a thought?  Yeah sure Unbelievable that anyone woule even ask that question.

Quoting DXing (Reply 13):
But if it makes a person happy and they can afford it, who are you to tell them they can't have it?

I won't argue with you on that one. If they want to drive it, or a Hummer, or any other wasterful, ineffiecent vehicle, and spend a fortune at the pump, I'll just laugh my ass off at them. But they're perfectly fine, in my mind, to do so.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40036 posts, RR: 74
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months ago) and read 7135 times:

Absolutely gorgeous!
The numbers are very impressive too. (yes)
I'd love to have a convertible version of this car.  drool 

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 1):
the thing handled like a '76 TownCar,

Nice! Big grin

Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !

Save it!
Or be consistent and complain about the unveiling of the new gas-guzzling Mercedes, BMWs & Porsche.
Since you live in Europe, you don't have to worry about seeing many of these on your streets.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3695 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months ago) and read 7123 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 17):
Oh, I don't know-good, solid, fuel-efficient cars, that aren't over-priced, that will sell well, and help get their asses out from under this crisis.

Open your eyes, Ford builds plenty of them and more are coming.

What manufacturer is selling the only compact truck in North America?


User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months ago) and read 7113 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 17):
I'll just laugh my ass off at them.

And they'll be laughing right back at you. This is not a car you use to drive to the super market or commute to work in. If anything it's an investment. People who can afford this kind of car aren't too worried about filling it up now and again and then taking it out and enjoying it. That's what they are made for. They have other cars they do the chores in. Keep driving your K car and laugh about the only crappy ride you have.

Seems it was the Roush Mustang fans that weren't happy with Ford and Roush making more than the 100 cars they said they would, not the Shelby GT.

http://www.mustang.com/general-news/ford-sued-over-roush-blackjack/


User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7063 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Save it!
Or be consistent and complain about the unveiling of the new gas-guzzling Mercedes, BMWs & Porsche.
Since you live in Europe, you don't have to worry about seeing many of these on your streets.

Right on Superfly! I guess the poster ignores the BMW, Mercedes, and Audi SUVs that get terrible gas mileage. Their sedans hardly do any better. The automakers build what will sell, just ask Porsche how the Cayenne saved their bacon..

Ford builds solid cars. The Focus, Fusion, F-150, and Mustang are all well regarded. The new Fusion Hybrid beat the Prius in gas mileage tests and is getting rave reviews from the press.

As for the Prius worshipers you might want to recall that Toyota also makes the Sequia, 4-Runner, Tundra, Land Cruiser, and the entire Lexus division. Not exactly fuel efficient. The Lexus hybrids are a joke, they are tuned for performance rather than significant fuel savings. Al Gore's RX400h barely gets 20 MPG and 1 MPG better than the gas powered RX 330 (now 350)

Even Honda got into the crowd with their new Pilot which is much bigger than the last model. They all got caught with their pants down with this economy and are idling plants across the US.

Regarding the hybrids, the EPA calculated it will take 9 years to recoup your investment. As for the carbon footprint folks, do you think battery production is remotely good for the environment?

Those batteries use Nickel Hydride much of which comes from strip mines in Sudbury Ontario and is smelted there. Then the nickel is sent to Europe to be refined, and then to China to produce the battery. Acid rain, energy to run the plants, and emissions all are a factor there.

Just get a Honda Civic or any 4 Cylinder compact which gives nearly all the fuel savings without all the complicated electronics, batteries and what not. Better yet get a clean VW Diesel.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7052 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Save it!
Or be consistent and complain about the unveiling of the new gas-guzzling Mercedes, BMWs & Porsche.
Since you live in Europe, you don't have to worry about seeing many of these on your streets.

Right on Superfly! I guess the poster ignores the BMW, Mercedes, and Audi SUVs that get terrible gas mileage.

The crazy thing is you can buy very eco friendly 3 series. They don't sell in the US. The have to put big inefficient engines first. Same for Audi and even Mercedes.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/efficient_dynamics/phase_2/co2_modelfinder/_shared/img/3er_touring_318d.jpg
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t..._modelfinder/3er_touring_318d.html

Its the mindset that has to change. A difficult & long proces.


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7043 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 2):
Just the car the current market / environment needs !

Ahh yes, because you know the US market so well.  Yeah sure

Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
The fuel is chaep now so what the hack. He (they) apparently haven't learned a f.ck.

Spell heck correctly, and stop cussing. Are you even remotely aware of the work in Hybrids that Ford has done? They did it quite a while before GM and Chrysler woke up. Of course not...you assume that your solution "fits all" and have never done any real road travel in the US, nor have you given any though to the difference in transportation needs between the US and EU. One size does not fit all. But you're Keesje, and facts can't get in the way of your ideology...

Quoting Keesje (Reply 8):
Hopefully the Obama movement can start making a change, starting to dismattle the believe you need cars like that, e.g. to be happy.

There is no such thing as an "Obama movement"...we don't treat Presidents are cult leaders. They serve us. He's got more important things to do than pander to your twisted social engineering views.

Quoting Keesje (Reply 22):
They don't sell in the US. The have to put big inefficient engines first. Same for Audi and even Mercedes.

They put those engines in by choice. Don't lie Keesje, seriously, honesty is very important.

Of course I know why you've taken such an interest in Ford...Mullaly. This is proxy A v B for you. Have you no shame?

  B4e-Forever New Frontiers  

[Edited 2009-01-04 12:42:15]

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12175 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7018 times:



Quoting Photopilot (Reply 12):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 9):
Ford, GM, Chrysler and other OEMs build what the people want to buy.

Which of course is total nonsense. You perhaps have heard of the 2nd most famous street in New York City.... after Wall Street?

It's called Madison Avenue.... you know, that place where all the multi-billion advertising agencies are located. SELLING and PROMOTING the products that companies want to bring to your attention, and tempt you to buy. '



Quoting Photopilot (Reply 12):
Millions and Millions of people didn't suddenly walk into car dealerships and one day say.... "Hey, make me a SUV because that's what I want". They were spoon fed advertising images of macho people driving tough vehicles and hey.... you too can be macho and tough if you drive one of our SUVs. That's the purpose of advertising, which all car companies spend bilions of dollars of advertising on.

Heellllooooo, Earth to Photopilot...........

You do realize those same Madison Avenue Ad Agencies that advertise for GM and Ford, also advertiose for Toyota, Kia, BMW, Nissan, VW, Jaguar, Range Rover, and others, don't you?

Most people I know are not lead around simply by Madison Ave advertising. When they decide to spend $15,000, $25,000, $35,000 or more of there hard earned money, and commit to a 4 or 5 year loan contract, they do a little more research than a TV commerical.

Why am I buying a 2009 Ford F-150 this year? It is not because I like the Ford TV commerical. I have gone to the dealerships, and used the internet. I have compared the F-150 to the Chevy Silverado, Dodge Ram, and Toyota Tundra, and again, in my opinion the F-150 is the best truck for me and to tow my RV.

But, maybe you know someone who only makes major economic decisions based on information they get from a TV commerical only?

Quoting Keesje (Reply 22):
Its the mindset that has to change. A difficult & long proces.

Keesje, you are absolutly correct. As soon as you Europeans start thinking like we Americans do, the whole world will be a better place.

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25 Post contains images Keesje : Yeah, what the hack..
26 Dougloid : Keez, I've been on furlough for various and sundry reasons which I will explain if you pm me, but I've been waiting to respond to this posting and yo
27 YOWza : Looks like a regular mustang (blah) with some slightly deformed body parts. Not much ground breaking style or... well anything. To each their own I gu
28 Superfly : Impressive. WOW! Do the treehuggers question the carbon footprint that shipping these heavy battery parts around the world? That can't be good shippi
29 Dougloid : Because that's different, 'fly. Don't matter that they'[re environmental disasters either. And the "neighbors" would probably not be amused.
30 Post contains links ACDC8 : Key word being NICHE market, and these cars are the only cars that aren't left on the lot at year end. These cars are very sought after, fetch a pret
31 Mham001 : That would be wrong. The only manufacturer selling a compact truck in North America is that dastardly Ford Co.
32 ACDC8 : So the Chevy Colorado, GMC Canyon, Dodge Dakota, Toyota Tacoma and Nissan Frontier aren't compact pick-ups?
33 ABQ747 : Those are mid-size pick-ups. The Ranger is the only compact truck left on the market, and it is also the most fuel-efficient.
34 Post contains links ACDC8 : I'll be honest, I'm not a truck person, but from all the reading I've done, they're all still classified as compact pick-ups ... http://autos.canada.
35 Post contains links ABQ747 : Maybe things are a little different in Canada, but in the US, these are considered mid-size trucks. http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/stories/shrevepo
36 Post contains links and images ACDC8 : Not trying to argue or anything, so don't take this the wrong way   According to JD Power, even the Ranger is considered a midsize ... http://www.jd
37 ABQ747 : Some people call the Ranger a mid-size, others call it a compact. This is really confusing. I still consider the Ranger a compact because it is consi
38 ACDC8 : We'll just leave it at that then. Like I said, I'm not a truck person so given the comparable size of other pick-ups on the market (such as the Canyo
39 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : Keesje, how old is that picture, and what month of the year was it taken. It was not taken in any January, I assure you of that. BTW, the polar ice p
40 Dreadnought : Some 50 years after the advent of independant suspension, the Musting STILL has a live rear axle. The same technology found on a victorian baby carri
41 Post contains images Keesje : I think we have the SUV / Trucks by the balls here. Monsters from VW (Touareg), BMW X cars and even Porsches Cayenne, Audi and Volvo's. These compani
42 Mham001 : The Ranger is the only one that has not morphed larger over the years.
43 Superfly : Germany also makes gas-guzzling sedans & coupes. I'd like to hear your opinion on those. Hmmmm, I know of plenty of College professors that drive Mer
44 Boeing4ever : A well educated and sensible person would understand the difference in transportation needs between the US and Europe. Prius drivers essentially are
45 Dougloid : So where's the words of condemnation? Live by your own rule, Keez.
46 Post contains links Superfly : Keesje: I made it easy for you. Please respond to these two threads before they get archived. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/non_aviation/r
47 ACDC8 : Does plan and dream count as the same thing .... lol! If I had the money, I wouldn't hesitate, but all I can afford would be another base GT (not tha
48 UAXDXer : I am......... as soon as the government bails me out!
49 Mham001 : Youre right, they are close. I see so few of them I forget they even exist. Compared to the Tacoma though the Ranger is 5 inches narrower and 6 inche
50 Post contains images Keesje : Some people need terrain capable cars. But a small minority. I remember when i had a very light car 20 yrs ago, it was the best in these conditions,
51 Dougloid : My hat's off to you, sir. I'll go you one better. My 1957 Morris Minor sedan had such tall gearing and big tires that if you got stuck in the snow yo
52 Boeing4ever : It's a little different hear. And it's not necessarily SUV's either. I drive a Toyota Camry...large car by European standards. I use it both for comm
53 DXing : My first car, a 1969 AMC AMX with a Ford 390 and a Hurst shift in it. Oh to be 17 with a muscle car again! If you don't own any land or don't do your
54 Post contains links and images Keesje : Well, I have a small innovation for you its called "trekhaak" here. http://www.carperfection.nl/231/images/Home/Trekhaak.jpg. For $25 an afternoon I
55 DXing : Yep, that option is there, so it the cost of repair for overloading your transmission and suspension. No way you can load that trailer with dirt, a f
56 Dougloid : Was that a Ford 390 or the American Motors 390? Same CID, different motor. Hotrodding AMC products has always been a challenge.
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