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WSJ Article: Limbaugh's Bipartisan Stimulus  
User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7510 posts, RR: 24
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Rush Limbaugh has apparently wrote his own bipartisan stimulus perspective in today's Wall Street Journal.

The article can be found at this link:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123318906638926749.html

Upshoot: definitely a unique approach.


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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

"We see which stimulus actually works." Yeah, if it went that far through the legislature (and with Obama's pen/ink). Voters could definitely be for it - if they think that progress at a rate of 46% is success.  Wink

User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1693 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Thread starter):
Rush Limbaugh has apparently wrote his own bipartisan stimulus perspective in today's Wall Street Journal.

Rush is the de facto leader and water carrier of the Republican Party.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5419 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Thread starter):
Rush Limbaugh has apparently wrote his own bipartisan stimulus perspective in today's Wall Street Journal.

Unfortunately he is and has been such a polarizing figure that what ever he says will largely be dismissed and discredited by many. I am not arguing if he has a good approach but that he has inflicted upon himself relative irrelevance in being able to assist in maters like this.

There are many other that work hard to not be polarizing and they are the one who will be listened to by both sides not Rush.


Quoting Confuscius (Reply 2):
Rush is the de facto leader and water carrier of the Republican Party.

No, he is the mouthpiece, leader, and water carrier of the "Rushies". He most certainly does not represent any type of leadership for the Republican party I support.

Tugg

[Edited 2009-01-29 11:39:19]


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8787 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1682 times:



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 2):
Rush is the de facto leader and water carrier of the Republican Party.

Once again, showing how you've never listened to Rush's show. If you did, you might hear how he rails against the Republicans almost as harshly as he does the Democrats.



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1663 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 3):
Unfortunately he is and has been such a polarizing figure that what ever he says will largely be dismissed and discredited by many. I am not arguing if he has a good approach but that he has inflicted upon himself relative irrelevance in being able to assist in maters like this

Here's what he said.

"Let's stop the acrimony. Let's start solving our problems, together."



Pardon me while I puke. The useful idiots are lining up already to explain this from their Chairman-"ooooooooh! You know Rush wants to be fwends but that uppity nigruh don't! Oooooooooooh!"


User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5419 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1655 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 5):
Here's what he said.

"Let's stop the acrimony. Let's start solving our problems, together."

Yes, it is the arsonist helping to fight the fire.

It just doesn't have any credibility.

Tugg



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1642 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 5):
The useful idiots are lining up already to explain this from their Chairman-"ooooooooh! You know Rush wants to be fwends but that uppity nigruh don't! Oooooooooooh!"

How 'bout naming some names?

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 5):
Pardon me while I puke.

Theatrically or for real?

Quoting Tugger (Reply 6):
Yes, it is the arsonist helping to fight the fire.

I'm sure an 8B stimulus won't fan the flames.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19385 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Tax cuts?

Like Bush's $600?

Sorry, Rush. I need a lot more than $600 to get me out of the mess I'm in. I need a better salary, I need healthcare, and I need to have an economy that isn't going to randomly crash on me.

Signed,

-The American Taxpayer.


User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5419 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1627 times:



Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 7):
I'm sure an 8B stimulus won't fan the flames. sarcastic

That has nothing to do with what I am saying. I am saying that Rush does not have the ability to introduce something like this. He has destroyed any credibility he has on making proposals by the way he and his show attack others. Again, I already said:

Quoting Tugger (Reply 3):
I am not arguing if he has a good approach but that he has inflicted upon himself relative irrelevance in being able to assist in maters like this.

I am sure there are many not so good and even wasteful parts of the $800B (not 8) stimulus plan that I won't like and, maybe he has a fantastic idea, but he will not be able to get it heard just because it is a good idea. Just like nobody would want the arsonist to help with putting out the fire he started because no one would trust him.

Tugg



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User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 990 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1609 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Tax cuts?

Like Bush's $600?

Sorry, Rush. I need a lot more than $600 to get me out of the mess I'm in. I need a better salary, I need healthcare, and I need to have an economy that isn't going to randomly crash on me.

Signed,

-The American Taxpayer.

Dear American Taxpayer,

What are you doing yourself to improve your salary, healthcare, and to prepare for downturns in the economy?

Signed,

Personal Responsibility



The voice of moderation
User currently offlineAloha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2354 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1596 times:



Quoting Cmhsrq (Reply 10):
Dear American Taxpayer,

What are you doing yourself to improve your salary, healthcare, and to prepare for downturns in the economy?

Signed,

Personal Responsibility

Thank you!

To quote one of my favorite Radio Hosts, Tammy Bruce:

"Stop buying stuff you can't afford!"

Which reminds of the great line from Jim Carrey in "Liar Liar" when his client asks him for help getting out fo jail since he robbed another ATM...

"STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!"

Pretty simple if you ask me!

-Aloha!



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1573 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 4):
Once again, showing how you've never listened to Rush's show.

I do whenever the Republicans loses. I love to hear him whine and blame everything on the media. I have to admit it's quite entertaining.

Rush would be bitch and whine about the GOP, but in the end he ends up carrying their water anyway.

Quoting Tugger (Reply 3):
He most certainly does not represent any type of leadership for the Republican party I support.

Too bad your kind of GOP is an endangered species.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5419 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Quoting Aloha73g (Reply 11):
To quote one of my favorite Radio Hosts, Tammy Bruce:

"Stop buying stuff you can't afford!"

Like health care? I don't think many, possibly even you, could afford your health care cost if companies weren't running interference and paying a large chunk of it.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 12):
Too bad your kind of GOP is an endangered species.

It's actually a much larger portion of the GOP than the extremist. The GOP I believe in is far closer to the one that existed during the Reagan 80's, less taxes, more freedom, get the government out of peoples lives. The "new" Republican's are far more "security at all costs" Republican's and vilify everyone who disagrees as weakening our country and willing to watch everyone to make sure we are all "safe". Sounds to much like the Taliban.

Tugg

[Edited 2009-01-29 16:39:12]


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25004 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1555 times:
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Quoting PHLBOS (Thread starter):
Rush Limbaugh has apparently wrote his own bipartisan stimulus perspective in today's Wall Street Journal.

I am struggling to find anything bipartisan in it.

mariner



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11529 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Quoting Cmhsrq (Reply 10):
Dear American Taxpayer,

What are you doing yourself to improve your salary, healthcare, and to prepare for downturns in the economy?

Signed,

Personal Responsibility

Being told by banks that we can afford it and don't worry when the ARM starts adjusting. Being told by banks and lending institutions not to worry about the fine print, you can't understand it anyway. Being told we can have the American dream but getting it all taken from us because our job is being shipped overseas even when we do live within our means. It's always someone else's fault. Never big corporations. Always the little guy's fault.

Edit: I was taking the Jeopardy! online test. I read the article. It sounds to me like Rush wants to do what has been done over the past 8 years. Where has that gotten us? Let's try something else for a while. Let's let the opposition have a go at it for once. I know that hurts Rush's ego, especially if the economy gets going again, but, you had your chance. Let's do something else and see if it works.

[Edited 2009-01-29 20:22:32]


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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1508 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Like Bush's $600?

Ummm..that was a one time stimulus check, not a tax cut.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Sorry, Rush. I need a lot more than $600 to get me out of the mess I'm in. I need a better salary, I need healthcare, and I need to have an economy that isn't going to randomly crash on me.

Then you need Cuba. They have 24/7/365 nanny care there waiting for you.

Quoting Tugger (Reply 13):
Like health care? I don't think many, possibly even you, could afford your health care cost if companies weren't running interference and paying a large chunk of it.

Then health care, like the housing market, would suffer a crash in prices. Did you ever stop to think that the government helps to prop up the high prices?


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1495 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
It sounds to me like Rush wants to do what has been done over the past 8 years. Where has that gotten us?

Precisely. That line about the definition of insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results comes to mind.



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User currently offlineSASD209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Oct 2007, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1490 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
Being told by banks that we can afford it and don't worry when the ARM starts adjusting. Being told by banks and lending institutions not to worry about the fine print, you can't understand it anyway.

Anyone who believed that deserves whatever they get. Who signs something without examining the fine print and consequences? Oh, that's right....irresponsible people.


User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1490 times:



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):
Precisely. That line about the definition of insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results comes to mind.

Ironically, the Democrats are pursuing the same failed Keynesian economics that prolonged the Great Depression even though it didn't work then. I guess some never learn, do they?

Quoting Cmhsrq (Reply 10):
Dear American Taxpayer,

What are you doing yourself to improve your salary, healthcare, and to prepare for downturns in the economy?

Signed,

Personal Responsibility

 checkmark 

I am getting SO sick and tired of people whining and complaining as if the world owes them something for the stupid decisions they've made in their lives. Didn't save for a downturn? Give me a check! Didn't get an education? Give me some free goodies! Fortunately, most people still do believe in personal responsibility.


User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2354 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1485 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 13):
Like health care? I don't think many, possibly even you, could afford your health care cost if companies weren't running interference and paying a large chunk of it.

No, not health care. I was thinking more along the lines of....flashy cars, flat screen TVs, eating out, vacations, BluRay players, DVD collections, expensive shoes/purses/jewelry/makeup, iPods, cell phones, computers, XBoxes, Nintendo Wii, bottled water, Starbucks, etc.

I was thinking of the kids at the public school my aunt teaches at...the kids who get "free and reduced rate" lunches (ie they are POOR)....the same kids who have 10 pairs of Nikes, the latest iPod and a cell phone. My parents were what most people would consider "rich" and my mom told us to go play outside....no video games, no expensive shoes, no CD player or walkman.....it was the early 90s  Wink We shopped at the church thrift store and wore hand me downs. All I am saying is that people should live within their means!!

Obviously you should be buying healthcare, food, housing, electricity, water, etc.

And FYI, I did pay for my own healthcare ($219.50 per month + a $2,000 deductible each calendar year with no drug coverage from HMSA--Blue Cross/Blue Shield) from May of 2007 through September of 2008. I paid every penny myself and didn't ask anyone....my parents and especially not the government for help.

-Aloha!



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User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 990 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1444 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):

Being told by banks that we can afford it and don't worry when the ARM starts adjusting. Being told by banks and lending institutions not to worry about the fine print, you can't understand it anyway. Being told we can have the American dream but getting it all taken from us because our job is being shipped overseas even when we do live within our means. It's always someone else's fault. Never big corporations. Always the little guy's fault.

Do you have a credit card? If so whats the limit on that card? The day you got that card did you go out and spend to the limit?

Go jump off a bridge.

Get my point? Follow a few simple rules, 1. Always look out for yourself first. 2. Never trust anyone 3. Read the fine print.

A person making 30K a year can't afford a 200K house. If I bank told me that I would walk out the door. I put a lot of blame on the current mess on big banks, they didn't have any personal responsibility either. They should have never been bailed out, the short term effects would have been horrible however the longer term health of the economy probably would have been better. Small local banks would have been created taking their place, creating decent paying local jobs. Instead the responsible people get dicked and the people who jacked everything up get a free ride.


In regards to big corporations many times it is their fault but the problem is they are being driven by consumer demands.

My wifes company (her employer) is a supplier for WalMart, in the 50's 60's, and 70's over 5,000 people worked for her company, as the pressure to reduce costs came they started to outsource manufacturing to Mexico, when that wasn't cheap enough they outsourced the Mexican jobs to China. All because WalMart always wanted 1 or 2 more cents cut from the cost. Her company now employees about 125.



The voice of moderation
User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1438 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
Being told by banks that we can afford it

And not having a third party check out the paperwork on what is probably the biggest purchase of your life? That's responsibility?

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
. Being told by banks and lending institutions not to worry about the fine print, you can't understand it anyway.

And not having a lawyer check out the fine print you don't understand before signing? That's responsibility?

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
Being told we can have the American dream but getting it all taken from us because our job is being shipped overseas even when we do live within our means.

Exactly where is this paper that says the company you work for owes you anything other than what they agreed to when you hired on? Do you faithfully buy your gas at the same station, even if the station across the street is a nickel a gallon lower? Do you buy your groceries at the same store even if you know the store across the street sells them for less? If you've ever comparitively shopped in your entire life then guess what, you practiced outsourcing. Stop whining.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):
Where has that gotten us?

It has gotten us substantially higher tax receipts and put more money back in the hands of the people that earned it in the first place. The only thing that hasn't sunk in is politicians learning to live with less and that is not about to change.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13033 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1434 times:

The WSJ, Bipartisan, yea sure. To me they are somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun. They just keep up that broken record of tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts....

User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1417 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 23):
The WSJ, Bipartisan, yea sure

The same could be said of the NYT, and who had an op ed piece in it before the election? Hmmmm....can't quite recall the name.


25 Seb146 : No. I was told over and over again I had zero chance of ever getting a credit card, even when banks could not hand them out fast enough. Whatever my
26 Yellowstone : You know, just saying something enough doesn't make it true. There is no consensus that the New Deal prolonged the Great Depression. A survey of econ
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