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RNC Elects New Chairman: Michael Steele  
User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2242 posts, RR: 14
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009.../republicans-pick-new-party-chief/

Michael Steele is a former Lt. Governor of Maryland and has seen some exposure on TV, appearing on various news shows over the years.

Best of luck to him...he'll need it to turn things around.





Oh, yeah, he happens to be black, but that fact should be irrelevent as long as you elect the most qualified candidate, right? Big grin


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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1604 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
Michael Steele is a former Lt. Governor of Maryland and has seen some exposure on TV, appearing on various news shows over the years.

A titular head of the GOP that is, we all know who the de facto leader. But congratulations to the new skipper of the Titanic. He's pretty well-spoken and should add color to an otherwise bland political party.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1569 times:



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 1):
A titular head of the GOP that is, we all know who the de facto leader. But congratulations to the new skipper of the Titanic. He's pretty well-spoken and should add color to an otherwise bland political party.

Well said and you owe me a computer monitor.



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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

Just briefly reading over his positions on a number of issues, I like what he is saying. However, I just first heard of him today so I will wait and see how he performs as the new RNC Chairman.

Its one thing to say; to do, that is another matter.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

A little late, but maybe he can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. The Republicans need a magician now, you know an illusionist.


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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39826 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1521 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Thread starter):
Michael Steele is a former Lt. Governor of Maryland and has seen some exposure on TV, appearing on various news shows over the years.

I remember him getting smacked down at the polls when he lost to Benjamin Cardin for the Senate race in 2006.
Picking a proven loser to head your party should bold well for the GOP in the future, NOT!



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1516 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
I remember him getting smacked down at the polls when he lost to Benjamin Cardin for the Senate race in 2006.
Picking a proven loser to head your party should bold well for the GOP in the future, NOT!

Now Larry let's be honest here there is not a large pool of Republican African Americans to draw from.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39826 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1513 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 6):
Now Larry let's be honest here there is not a large pool of Republican African Americans to draw from.

You mean the GOP isn't going based on qualifications?
Are you saying that the GOP would be that shallow and pick someone based on their appearance?
They didn't do that with their last VP choice so why would they.........oh.............(nevermind)!

 bitelip 



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1494 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
You mean the GOP isn't going based on qualifications?
Are you saying that the GOP would be that shallow and pick someone based on their appearance?
They didn't do that with their last VP choice so why would they.........oh.............(nevermind)!

Larry you best be wearing asbestos boxers as you be going to hell for saying such lies, lies I tell ya.



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User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1476 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):

I remember him getting smacked down at the polls when he lost to Benjamin Cardin for the Senate race in 2006.
Picking a proven loser to head your party should bold well for the GOP in the future, NOT!

Hmm, who was the leader of the DNC for the last several years? Oh thats right it was Howard Dean, and if I recall correctly he ran for president and lost. Now I could be wrong, but doesn't that make him a "proven loser"?



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39826 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1460 times:



Quoting T773ER (Reply 9):
Hmm, who was the leader of the DNC for the last several years? Oh thats right it was Howard Dean, and if I recall correctly he ran for president and lost. Now I could be wrong, but doesn't that make him a "proven loser"?

Nope.
He lost to fellow Democrats after the so-called 'liberal media' ran away with that story of him giving a spirited speech in which 1 microphone was over-demodulated. Thus paining him as some unhinged crazy man.
Michael Steele is a proven loser in a general election. Howard Dean won several general elections back to back in his state of Vermont.



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User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1431 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Nope.
He lost to fellow Democrats after the so-called 'liberal media' ran away with that story of him giving a spirited speech in which 1 microphone was over-demodulated. Thus paining him as some unhinged crazy man.
Michael Steele is a proven loser in a general election. Howard Dean won several general elections back to back in his state of Vermont.

Well regardless of who or how he lost to, he lost! I'm not going to argue with you about losing because the media painted him as some wacko, or how he didn't lose in a general election. Your right, since he lost to his own party that makes him a better person than Steele.

Give me a break, losing is losing.



"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Michael Steele is a fiscal conservative , no way he could win in Maryland .. no way. He is tough , and has been blasting the GOP for the last couple of years for their spineless actions.

Tough enough to stand up to oreo cookies being thrown at him , and being called uncle tom by DNC ops in Maryland. Guess this wont garner a "Historic" break-though on CNN... no tingly leags or anything.

Good for him, hopefully he will do a good job.



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User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1401 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Nope.
He lost to fellow Democrats after the so-called 'liberal media' ran away with that story of him giving a spirited speech in which 1 microphone was over-demodulated. Thus paining him as some unhinged crazy man.
Michael Steele is a proven loser in a general election. Howard Dean won several general elections back to back in his state of Vermont.

He lost in one of the most Democrat-registered states in the country. However, his loss was not by a Cardin landslide. He received more than just the Republican votes. And it's usually not expected for a party chairman to have been a top-ranking elected official. And BFD with Howard Dean: a Democrat winning election in Vermont. How novel indeed! But didn't Howie flame out in his bid to be President in 2004, or did I just dream that?

I really wanted him to get this position. I think he's a great speaker with a likeable personality.
His views are more traditional conservative. Too bad Obama won't be able to demonize him, but he's still got Rush to bash.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1397 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
I remember him getting smacked down at the polls when he lost to Benjamin Cardin for the Senate race in 2006.

Sorta like our new Presidents first foray into national politics?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
over-demodulated

Hmmmmm....I spent 18 years in broadcasting and don't quite remember that tech term.  rotfl 

Good luck to Mr. Steele. Hopefully he will have the where-with-all to return to the party to fiscal conservatism. It was time to get rid of Mr. Duncan, he had his chance and couldn't produce.


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39826 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1394 times:



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 13):
But didn't Howie flame out in his bid to be President in 2004, or did I just dream that?

That's already been explained above.
Anyhow, Howard Dean is one of the main architects behind the two consecutive Democratic victories. When Howard Dean became the Democratic Party chair, the party was in the minority in both houses of Congress and didn't have the White House.
Just 4 years later under Howard Dean, the Democrats have the White House, both houses of Congress and majority of Governorships and state legislatures.
So it wouldn't be a good idea to write off Howard Dean.

Quoting DXing (Reply 14):
Hmmmmm....I spent 18 years in broadcasting and don't quite remember that tech term.

Look it up.


Let's see how well the new RNC chair does.



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User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1386 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That's already been explained above.
Anyhow, Howard Dean is one of the main architects behind the two consecutive Democratic victories. When Howard Dean became the Democratic Party chair, the party was in the minority in both houses of Congress and didn't have the White House.
Just 4 years later under Howard Dean, the Democrats have the White House, both houses of Congress and majority of Governorships and state legislatures.
So it wouldn't be a good idea to write off Howard Dean.

You can hardly gove credit to Howard Dean for those victorious elections, anybody could have been the chair and the democrats would have one.

I think Michael Steele will turn out to be a good choice for the RNC. He is a strong conservative, and also a good public speaker. If he brings the Republican party back to its conservative roots, which I think he will, then 2010 will be very interesting.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1366 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Look it up.

Since it is a double negative, like anti anti missile, it wouldn't make much sense now would it. To over demodulate would mean what? You turned up his demodulated (which would mean turned down) voice to far? I don't think that was the problem so much as the screaming itself.  laughing 

Quoting T773ER (Reply 16):
If he brings the Republican party back to its conservative roots, which I think he will, then 2010 will be very interesting.

Especially if inflation has shot through the roof due to the mints printing presses being left on high to cover the Pork....er stimulus bill. Gold prices, which closed Friday in NYC at $927.10 are starting to reflect that. Not as high as last March when speculation pushed prices up to $1000.00 an ounce (I made some real money then) but trending up.


User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1352 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 17):
Especially if inflation has shot through the roof due to the mints printing presses being left on high to cover the Pork....er stimulus bill. Gold prices, which closed Friday in NYC at $927.10 are starting to reflect that. Not as high as last March when speculation pushed prices up to $1000.00 an ounce (I made some real money then) but trending up.

I don't think that it will be an if, like you said this so called stimulus bill is a joke. And if the senate approves it as is, inflation is almost certain. The US mint has been printing money nonstop since around October, and it will continue. Thus resulting in a even higher gold price in the near future, which in your case doesn't sound too bad!



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User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1258 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1344 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
I remember him getting smacked down at the polls when he lost to Benjamin Cardin for the Senate race in 2006.
Picking a proven loser to head your party should bold well for the GOP in the future, NOT!

It was actually the most competitive senate race in MD in nearly three decades (Charles Mathias was reelected in 1980, no Republican since, other than Steele, has gotten more than 40% of the vote, and most lost by much larger margins) , in a year where democrats picked up seats in many moderate areas. Getting 44% of the vote in MD means winning over a LOT of democrats--roughly 2/3rds of MDers are democrats.

Democrats can attack Steele all they want (he's been the target of smear campaigns in MD for years--hasn't bothered him), but its not smart to underestimate him.

Quoting T773ER (Reply 16):
I think Michael Steele will turn out to be a good choice for the RNC. He is a strong conservative, and also a good public speaker. If he brings the Republican party back to its conservative roots, which I think he will, then 2010 will be very interesting.

Having met him on a few occasions, and having lived in MD during his tenure as Lt Governor, I think you are right. He's a solid conservative, but also someone who is not as blindly partisan and narrow-minded as some other GOP leaders. He's the GOP's best shot of both broadening its appeal while emphasizing conservative ideals.



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39826 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1335 times:



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 19):
It was actually the most competitive senate race in MD in nearly three decades (Charles Mathias was reelected in 1980, no Republican since, other than Steele, has gotten more than 40% of the vote, and most lost by much larger margins) , in a year where democrats picked up seats in many moderate areas. Getting 44% of the vote in MD means winning over a LOT of democrats--roughly 2/3rds of MDers are democrats.

You leave out the fact that it was the first open Senate seat in Maryland in nearly three decades.



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1251 times:

New GOP strategist.


Joe the Plumber advises GOP-ers

By ALEX ISENSTADT | 2/2/09

Fresh off his stint as a war correspondent in Gaza, Joe the Plumber is now doing political strategy with Republicans.

When GOP congressional aides gather Tuesday morning for a meeting of the Conservative Working Group, Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher – more commonly known as Joe the Plumber — will be their featured guest. This group is an organization of conservative Capitol Hill staffers who meet regularly to chart GOP strategy for the week.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/18324.html



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11572 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1247 times:



Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 19):
He's the GOP's best shot of both broadening its appeal while emphasizing conservative ideals.

Maybe you or someone in MD can expound on something I heard on the radio this morning. I heard that people were bused from inner city Philadelphia to Baltimore to hand out flyers before the 2006 election that said "Democratic Sample Ballot" with Steele's name and picture along with Democratic candidates. If that is true, that sounds like the Republican party we have all come to know.



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