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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

Got this in an email from a friend in Cincinnati.


PROFILING
To ensure we Americans never offend anyone-particularly fanatics intent on killing us-airport screeners are not allowed to profile people. They will, however, continue to perform random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of the President's security detail, and 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips.
Let's pause a moment and take the following test...


In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:
(a) Your Grandmother;
(b) The night cleaning crew at Rockefeller Center;
(c) A Mom & her 6 year old son visiting from Iowa; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Norwegians from the Lichen Herbarium of the University of Oslo;
(b) The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders;
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A pizza delivery boy;
(b) An woman who was 8 months pregnant;
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) A college girl;
(b) A businessman on his way to Detroit;
(c) Butch and Sundance, who had a few sticks of dynamite left over
from their train mission; or,
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:
(a) The cast of "Cats";
(b) Martha Stewart;
(c) Cheese-crazed tourists from Wisconsin; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania a were bombed by:
(a) Mr. Rogers;
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems;
(c) A family on their way to Disneyworld; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed by:
(a) Bugs Bunny, Wil E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd.
(b) A firefighter,
(c) A doctor traveling to a conference; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.




Hmmm...nope, ain't no pattern here. Darned if I know why we should ever
even think about profiling.




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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

This is the best freakin thread I have seen in a long long time. Great job Alpha 1! I can't agree with you more.

User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1013 times:

LOL, I agree with KROC... so funny, and yet so true. Awesome way of presenting the facts.

User currently offlineTWAL1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1010 times:

Nicely done.

User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3397 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 995 times:

Wow, this is the best thread I have seen in a while. 5 stars! Big grin

User currently offlineBH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 990 times:

Great thread, I agree.


Northwest Airlines - Some People Just Know How to Fly
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 979 times:

There is so much truth there it hurts.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 975 times:

I failed...........I put A for the last one Big grin

Humorous way of presenting something otherwise consider a taboo
I give it a 5 thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 957 times:

n 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:
(a) Your Grandmother;
(b) The night cleaning crew at Rockefeller Center;
(c) A Mom & her 6 year old son visiting from Iowa; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


Answer is B. Someone clog the toilet. Cleaning crew got pissed and took out a contract.


In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Norwegians from the Lichen Herbarium of the University of Oslo;
(b) The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders;
(c) A tour bus full of 80-year-old women; or (d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

C) Thats what happens when you contry estamblishes economic santions.
Old ladies cant get the replacement motor for their electric wheelchair.




In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A pizza delivery boy;
(b) An woman who was 8 months pregnant;
(c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

A) REMEMBER TO TIP





In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) A college girl;
(b) A businessman on his way to Detroit;
(c) Butch and Sundance, who had a few sticks of dynamite left over
from their train mission; or,
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

A) She broke up with her boyfriend. According to the boyfriend she had an
explosive altitude.





In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:
(a) The cast of "Cats";
(b) Martha Stewart;
(c) Cheese-crazed tourists from Wisconsin; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


c) Blew it up for the insurence money








In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania a were bombed by:
(a) Mr. Rogers;
(b) Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems;
(c) A family on their way to Disneyworld; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

B) Who else whould do such a thing?



On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed by:
(a) Bugs Bunny, Wil E. Coyote, Daffy Duck, and Elmer Fudd.
(b) A firefighter,
(c) A doctor traveling to a conference; or
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


A B C D......

Doctor trying to give Daffy Duck a vaccine shot, tripped over Wil E. Coyote and knocked over a firefighter who in turn grab a female passanger's buttocks to prevent himself from falling. He said he was sorry. This upset a handful of Muslim males extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40. They in snapped. Hijacked the plane and crashed them because they were pissed at the
chaos that occures in the world. They were missing out.

Hmmm...nope, ain't no pattern here. Darned if I know why we should ever even think about profiling.



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineLubcha132 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2776 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 951 times:

its the damn octagenarian tour groups!  Big grin

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 920 times:

Hey man,

This is the best thread on airliners.net in a long time.

Now I wonder what the anti-American terrorist-huggers are gonna say now.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5110 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 914 times:

got Jingoism?  Yeah sure


Next Up: STL-LGA-RIC-ATL-STL
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 911 times:

OzarkD9S, those are facts, not jingoism.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 902 times:

Haha, thats funny as hell!!! *sigh* its funny because its true  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

NWA - couldn't you have kept your mouth shut just once? everyone was enjoying it and then you come out with some anti-european crap like that...



User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 896 times:

So, when are you going to publish the answers?  Big thumbs up


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 893 times:

Being a brown skinned male between 17 - 40 who flies a great deal I DON'T find it quite so funny ...

Perhaps some of you might consider how it feels to continually be the target before you applaud so loudly !



" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 888 times:

We applaud, because the people that are getting profiled in this case, are people behind ever tragedy listed originally. Perhaps instead of being mad at those that profile you, you ahould be mad, at those that have made the need for profiling needed.

User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 879 times:

I am not mad at them, I realise why it happens.

I just don't think people here consider what it is like to forever be the accused !



" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineEmiratesLover From Malta, joined Dec 2000, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 880 times:

``Perhaps some of you might consider how it feels to continually be the target before you applaud so loudly ! ''

Exactly - for all those who applaud racial profiling this is what I have to say - try being at the receiving end of profiling for a change.Think of the other end of the coin - how would American citizens react if they were to be at the receiving end of hostility in other countries SIMPLY because of who they are.

No question it is important to maintain high standards of security at airports - but profiling people because of their skin colour and who they happen to be is simply not the answer.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 876 times:

NWA - couldn't you have kept your mouth shut just once? everyone was enjoying it and then you come out with some anti-european crap like that...

Umm....EGGD, how about you keep your mouth shut. You and I both know their are anti-American terrorist huggers on these forums. I never said anything about Europeans, and I wasn't targeting any specific people.

So, quit whining, and explain how I was "anti-European".


User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 872 times:

how would American citizens react if they were to be at the receiving end of hostility in other countries SIMPLY because of who they are.

hmm... I've never heard of something like this happening.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 871 times:

I am not mad at them, I realise why it happens.

I just don't think people here consider what it is like to forever be the accused !


so, are you saying you support these sub-humans, Pacificjourney? I realize also why it happened-because these people-and for these terrorists, I use that term loosely, have no value for human life whatsoever.

And like KROC said, don't get mad at us, who HAVE BEEN ATTACKED, for profiling the VERY GROUP who has attacked OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Why don't you vent your anger at these low-lifes who have made it necessary to profile dark-skinned males between 17 and 40. They're the criminals here. Oh, yeah, I forgot, you don't think they're such bad fellows. More's the pity for you.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 866 times:

how would American citizens react if they were to be at the receiving end of hostility in other countries SIMPLY because of who they are.

Last time I checked, Emriates, Americans weren't going around blowing up everyone and everybody in sight that they hate.

No question it is important to maintain high standards of security at airports - but profiling people because of their skin colour and who they happen to be is simply not the answer.

You can't have it both ways! Why not profile young men with dark skin between age 17-40? I mean, the track record is there for all to see, unless you're totally blind to the facts. Look at the long bloody history left by middle eastern men of thise age group!! Do we just allow a group of men in that age bracket to get on an airplane without questioning it anymore? We did that before, and we had 3000 people murdered.


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Great thread my friend....5 stars!!! You know what, I wouldn't give a damn being profiled....because I'm not doing anything wrong. So profile me, I don't care because I'm not a terrorist and have nothing to hide.

Chris  Smile


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16257 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 855 times:

Emirates, if being profiled is that distasteful to you, then stop travelling to the West. Problem solved.

Based on the survey at the top, profiling appears necessary.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
25 Pacificjourney : You surprise me. In answer to KROC request I stated I was not mad at 'them', them being those that profile/search not the individuals that you clearly
26 Alpha 1 : Another disappoint from you today is all this emotive language, sub-human, scum ... it pisses me of that people on this forum do this so much but you
27 Pacificjourney : Shall I take that as an apology for your previous mis-placed rant ? Righteous anger must be so comforting for you ... try going back to bed and rollin
28 Alpha 1 : Apologize for what? Because you didn't make yourself more clear? Yeah, right. And if you want to call it "righteous anger", go ahead. 3000 people were
29 Pacificjourney : No one else got it screwed up, just you. If I had said what you thought then there would have been an avalanche of replies, no ? Enough with the perso
30 KROC : Pacificjourney, I have read your posts several times, and I am having a hard time understanding what you say. What I do understand, is that you just d
31 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Your profile says you are an airline employee but clearly you are a lawyer, what with your never being wrong/never say your sorry point of veiw ! I'm
32 Donder10 : Its like CCTV.If you're doing nothing wrong,you have nothing to be worried about.
33 Radarbeam : April 19, 1995, a bomb rips through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Who did it? a) A college girl b) A Muslim male between the
34 KROC : Radarbeam, you make a point, but to this topic, it is irrelevant. Nobody deny's that the examoles you have given are wrong, but this topic is about pr
35 NWA742 : Pacificjourney, You need to quit whining about being profiled, because you are, and you will forever by the United States. Let's say we have you, and
36 Delta-flyer : Profiling based solely on race is not "profiling" at all -- a profile, by definition, must consist of more than one element. But random searches are c
37 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : Its hard to believe that this forum has gone so far downhill in the past year. I'll check back in non-aviation in a couple months.
38 Yyz717 : hehe CPDC10-30.
39 Post contains images N400QX : Yeah, whatever.
40 Post contains images Flight152 : Its hard to believe that this forum has gone so far downhill in the past year. It's comments like that which adds to the downhill of the forums. Thank
41 Yyz717 : "We applaud, because the people that are getting profiled in this case, are people behind ever tragedy listed originally. Perhaps instead of being mad
42 KROC : Thanks Yyz. Delta flyer. Recently, after being selected for a gate search, I boarded the aircraft and a fellow passenger, who saw me get picked, asked
43 Delta-flyer : Give me a break. No, you give me a break. I have been a frequent flyer for 20 years and currently gold medallion on DL. How great a risk can I be? Sam
44 Post contains images KROC : Delta flyer ... All your criteria for why you should not be searched is a joke. You act like the airline knows that. You see, we still have privacy to
45 Post contains images Delta-flyer : Krok.... I have never said this to anyone in my 53 years, but you are a real jerk. You have no respect for anyone, whether older or younger. Now I rem
46 KROC : "Krok", HAHAHA Delta flyer. Clever as always. You see, we were having a civilized discussion. See, you are debating one side, and I happen to be on th
47 Alpha 1 : Recently, after being selected for a gate search, I boarded the aircraft and a fellow passenger, who saw me get picked, asked if I don't feel better n
48 Alpha 1 : I have been a frequent flyer for 20 years and currently gold medallion on DL. How great a risk can I be? I did hear that some of these scum who pulled
49 Skyway1 : Like I said before....profile me please. Who cares...I'm not a terrorist nor am I hiding something so profile me. Once last year while flying nonrev o
50 Post contains images CO 757 200 : Good (and truthful job of presenting the facts in a creative way) Alpha 1! You just earned a spot on my respected list!
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