LY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 999 times:
Matza Restaurant, in Haifa near the Grand Kenyon is now gone. I was at this restaurant on Tuesday and as of 14:45 Israeli time on Sunday, a Palestinian exploded inside the restaurant.
N400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 895 times:
Hmm.... yeah, HAMAS is kinda bad. HAMAS is the Islamic Resistance Movement-- started back in 1987 as the Palestinian arm of Muslim Brotherhood, with a goal of a Palestinian State in place of Israel. It's Izz el-Din al-Qassam Brigades conduct many suicide attacks against Israel and receives funding from Palestine, Iran, private funding from Saudi Arabia and other Arab states.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 28 Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 885 times:
Yes, Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by the Arab world. Their stated goal is the destruction of Israel, not the creation of a Palestinian state.
When I see images like these, I get sick, and upset.
Now, imagine sitting in a restaurant, and suddenly a person explodes and the above happens. Can you imagine that? Bet you cant. I sure as hell cant. Its a frightening thought.
RoyalDutch From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 917 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 878 times:
I don't know how anybody has the nerve to say that Israel should be less agressive...Hamas is purpousefully targetting civilians...they aren't even trying for military targets. As far as I am concerned that is one cowardly method of warfare...and I hope the IDF takes 'em out. All of them. I am ashamed that the US is not supporting Israel in this fully.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 862 times:
I guess my post about PA members distributing pamphlets urging suicide bombers was deleted.(hopefully I'm not illussioning something) FoxNews Jerusalem correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported that a grassroots group linked to Arafat is distributing these pamphlets urging attacks on Americans and American interests in the middle east. Now these terrorists are going to attack Americans as well. These terrorists need to be stopped.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 28 Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 842 times:
What a deep and meaningful post 777. Perhaps you should understand a little better what TNNH said. He didn't say he hates Palestinians. He said he hates Hamas, he hates the terrorists.
Go Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 834 times:
777 doesnt do deep and meaningful, he managed to upset every british member on here by slagging off the queen mother
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
Go Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 821 times:
it has an undertone of saddness and anger that when israel sues for peace and withdraws from the palestinian terrorities as requested, the bombers continue, even on passover weekend.
it has a undertone of anger, anger that some people cant accept that the death of innocent civilains on purpose is a dreadful act.
and no you cant slagg off the queen mother, show some respect, clearly you are jealous of her but dont be disrespectful.
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4838 posts, RR: 21 Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 813 times:
and Muslims wonder why the west portrays them in a negative light recently
And Americans wonder why America is hated by so many people and why people fly planes into their houses.
The terrorist attacks are bad, very bad. They kill innocent people who just want to eat something in a restaurant. But the Israelian Army, commanded by Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada) is as bad, when they kill palestinian civilians who just want to survive. 2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians.
What do you think, palestinians are evil ? They are suicide bombers by birth ? No, they aren't. This hate grows because they are suppressed by the Israelis. One of the suicide bombers some weeks ago lost 2 brothers, 1 sister and his parents, they were killed by the israelian army.
Just imagine you lost your whole family in the WTC. What would you do with an Al Kaida Member standing in front of you ? Kill him, or make peace with him ?
Ariel Sharon has been elected by the Israelis as their leader, after he started this war.
The Israelis are guilty to 50%, the Palestinians too.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 786 times:
"Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada)"
Yeah, right.
"2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians."
Like I said before, a few more years of this kind of conflict, and the Israelis will finally even the score.
"Ariel Sharon has been elected by the Israelis as their leader, after he started this war."
The Israelis elected Sharon after the war started, period.
Don't believe everything the Palestinians are trying to feed you, Racko. Sharon's dumb actions were a convinient excuse but most certainly not the cause for the bloody uprising.
Staffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 784 times:
Racko, these extremists sure have a strange way to show that they want peace...
If they went for military targets it would be one thing, but what is the point of only going after civilians??
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4838 posts, RR: 21 Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 778 times:
Staffan, of course the real extremists are bad. They kill civilians, and there is no apology for that. But there isn't a apology for many of the military actions from the israelian army, too.
Both sides ain't innocent, Nik has nailed it.
But just saying the palestinians are wrong, evil and don't want peace is simply wrong. They just want freedom and a normal life. They want the same as the Israelis, and the same as (nearly) all other people in the world want.
Staffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 766 times:
What has annoyed me is that after every attack there has been some "retaliation", like shelling some Palestinian area for a few hours, for what good????
It's not until these last days the Israelis have done what should have been done a long time ago, really take action, and I hope they don't stop here, because then it will be the same in a few weeks again.
What will happen if/when the Palestinians get their own state? I wouldn't be very comfortable to have a neighbour who hated me more than anything else, and rather see me dead than alive, slowly building up an army. Will the next step be the removal of Israel?
The rest of the worlds trust for the Palestinians isn't exactly growing.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 25, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 750 times:
And Americans wonder why America is hated by so many people and why people fly planes into their houses.
Gee, Racko, I think they do so because they're below standards of human beings, and because the HATE Americans for the fact we've built ourselves into a great country. Any other reason, and in my book, you're giving tacit approval to what they did.
But the Israelian Army, commanded by Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada) is as bad, when they kill palestinian civilians who just want to survive. 2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians.
It's the Israeli Army, not Israelian, but I get the drift. And why is it that one side is more "bad" becuase the death toll on the other side is higher? Yet it seems the Palestinians are dying in smaller numbers in a give attack, while the Israelis die 15/20 at a time-and guess what? The number of Israeli is going way up. But that doesn't make one side more "bad" than the other.
The Israelis are guilty to 50%, the Palestinians too.
I don't believe it's 50/50. More like 70/30, with the higher guilt to the Palestinians. Israel should have stopped the building of settlements a long time ago-that was pure stupidity. But the PA had a golden chance to form a Palestinian State 2 years ago, and blew it, and have done NOTHING but add more fuel to the fire as the terrorism has escalated.