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Attack In My Home City - I Was There On Tuesday!  
User currently offlineLY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

Matza Restaurant, in Haifa near the Grand Kenyon is now gone. I was at this restaurant on Tuesday and as of 14:45 Israeli time on Sunday, a Palestinian exploded inside the restaurant.

Atleast 12 dead, over 45 injured.

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User currently offlineLY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Here's some more news from my memory:

1 - The owners of this restaurants are Israeli-Arabs that are Christians.

2 - This restaurant has a grocery store near it (5 m) and a gas station (20m), not to mention the popular mall "Grand Kenyon" (100m)


User currently offlineLY772 From Israel, joined Aug 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1485 times:



User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

THEY WERE NON JEWISH ISRAELI ARABS.

WELL DONE HAMAS.


User currently offlineNational_757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

This is auful! When will this stop. Can't they just leave Israel alone. This is ridculous.

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User currently offlineIbizajet A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

I do not know enough about this conflict, but isn't Hamas bad?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

It's high time that Israel retaliated....in a serious way.




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User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Hmm.... yeah, HAMAS is kinda bad. HAMAS is the Islamic Resistance Movement-- started back in 1987 as the Palestinian arm of Muslim Brotherhood, with a goal of a Palestinian State in place of Israel. It's Izz el-Din al-Qassam Brigades conduct many suicide attacks against Israel and receives funding from Palestine, Iran, private funding from Saudi Arabia and other Arab states.

It's bad. Evil, really.


User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Yes, Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by the Arab world. Their stated goal is the destruction of Israel, not the creation of a Palestinian state.

When I see images like these, I get sick, and upset.











Now, imagine sitting in a restaurant, and suddenly a person explodes and the above happens. Can you imagine that? Bet you cant. I sure as hell cant. Its a frightening thought.



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User currently offlineRoyalDutch From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 917 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

I don't know how anybody has the nerve to say that Israel should be less agressive...Hamas is purpousefully targetting civilians...they aren't even trying for military targets. As far as I am concerned that is one cowardly method of warfare...and I hope the IDF takes 'em out. All of them. I am ashamed that the US is not supporting Israel in this fully.

User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

I guess my post about PA members distributing pamphlets urging suicide bombers was deleted.(hopefully I'm not illussioning something) FoxNews Jerusalem correspondent Jennifer Griffin reported that a grassroots group linked to Arafat is distributing these pamphlets urging attacks on Americans and American interests in the middle east. Now these terrorists are going to attack Americans as well. These terrorists need to be stopped.

Regards
Chris


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Hamas is the definition of EVIL and all in the name of ISLAM.

and Muslims wonder why the west portrays them in a negative light recently.

NO ARAB MUSLIM LEADER HAS TAKEN ANY STEPS TO DISMANTLE HAMAS' FINANCING AND TRAINING INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOST SUPPORT IT.

THIS IS NOT RESISTANCE, THIS IS NARCISITIC HATE OF CIVILIZATION.

THESE SCUM HATE ISRAEL AND THE JEWS MORE THAN THEY LOVE LIFE OR THEIR FAMILIES

TNNH


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

THIS IS BIN LADENISM.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

It seems like you hate palestians too. Not saying that you don't have cause, but it doesn't help matters

User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

What a deep and meaningful post 777. Perhaps you should understand a little better what TNNH said. He didn't say he hates Palestinians. He said he hates Hamas, he hates the terrorists.


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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

777 doesnt do deep and meaningful, he managed to upset every british member on here by slagging off the queen mother


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

Oh, it definatly had an all-Arab undertone there.

Go Canada: Thanks for that!! Has enough time past for me to slagg her off even more?


User currently offline9A-CRO From Croatia, joined Jun 2000, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1358 times:
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I get the feeling that if you want to stop a peace process in Israel all you have to do is to get a bomb and an idiot who will detonate it on himself


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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

it has an undertone of saddness and anger that when israel sues for peace and withdraws from the palestinian terrorities as requested, the bombers continue, even on passover weekend.

it has a undertone of anger, anger that some people cant accept that the death of innocent civilains on purpose is a dreadful act.

and no you cant slagg off the queen mother, show some respect, clearly you are jealous of her but dont be disrespectful.



It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

and Muslims wonder why the west portrays them in a negative light recently

And Americans wonder why America is hated by so many people and why people fly planes into their houses.

The terrorist attacks are bad, very bad. They kill innocent people who just want to eat something in a restaurant. But the Israelian Army, commanded by Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada) is as bad, when they kill palestinian civilians who just want to survive. 2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians.

What do you think, palestinians are evil ? They are suicide bombers by birth ? No, they aren't. This hate grows because they are suppressed by the Israelis. One of the suicide bombers some weeks ago lost 2 brothers, 1 sister and his parents, they were killed by the israelian army.

Just imagine you lost your whole family in the WTC. What would you do with an Al Kaida Member standing in front of you ? Kill him, or make peace with him ?

Ariel Sharon has been elected by the Israelis as their leader, after he started this war.

The Israelis are guilty to 50%, the Palestinians too.


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

"Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada)"

Yeah, right.

"2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians."


Like I said before, a few more years of this kind of conflict, and the Israelis will finally even the score.

"Ariel Sharon has been elected by the Israelis as their leader, after he started this war."

The Israelis elected Sharon after the war started, period.

Don't believe everything the Palestinians are trying to feed you, Racko. Sharon's dumb actions were a convinient excuse but most certainly not the cause for the bloody uprising.

LY744.



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User currently offlineNik From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

Racko, that was a great post. Neither side in this conflict is innocent.

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1315 times:

Racko, these extremists sure have a strange way to show that they want peace...
If they went for military targets it would be one thing, but what is the point of only going after civilians??



User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

Staffan, of course the real extremists are bad. They kill civilians, and there is no apology for that. But there isn't a apology for many of the military actions from the israelian army, too.

Both sides ain't innocent, Nik has nailed it.

But just saying the palestinians are wrong, evil and don't want peace is simply wrong. They just want freedom and a normal life. They want the same as the Israelis, and the same as (nearly) all other people in the world want.


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

What has annoyed me is that after every attack there has been some "retaliation", like shelling some Palestinian area for a few hours, for what good????
It's not until these last days the Israelis have done what should have been done a long time ago, really take action, and I hope they don't stop here, because then it will be the same in a few weeks again.

What will happen if/when the Palestinians get their own state? I wouldn't be very comfortable to have a neighbour who hated me more than anything else, and rather see me dead than alive, slowly building up an army. Will the next step be the removal of Israel?
The rest of the worlds trust for the Palestinians isn't exactly growing.

I'm just wondering...


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (12 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

And Americans wonder why America is hated by so many people and why people fly planes into their houses.

Gee, Racko, I think they do so because they're below standards of human beings, and because the HATE Americans for the fact we've built ourselves into a great country. Any other reason, and in my book, you're giving tacit approval to what they did.

But the Israelian Army, commanded by Mr. Sharon (who provoked the current so called intifada) is as bad, when they kill palestinian civilians who just want to survive. 2/3 of the people who died in this
war were palestinians.


It's the Israeli Army, not Israelian, but I get the drift. And why is it that one side is more "bad" becuase the death toll on the other side is higher? Yet it seems the Palestinians are dying in smaller numbers in a give attack, while the Israelis die 15/20 at a time-and guess what? The number of Israeli is going way up. But that doesn't make one side more "bad" than the other.

The Israelis are guilty to 50%, the Palestinians too.

I don't believe it's 50/50. More like 70/30, with the higher guilt to the Palestinians. Israel should have stopped the building of settlements a long time ago-that was pure stupidity. But the PA had a golden chance to form a Palestinian State 2 years ago, and blew it, and have done NOTHING but add more fuel to the fire as the terrorism has escalated.


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