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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19807 posts, RR: 59
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

I find myself unhappy in my job and I am considering, although not entirely sure yet, abandoning ship and going into private practice.

But jobs are scarce in San Francisco for pediatricians. Doctor jobs aren't posted in want ads like other jobs are, they're often highly networking-based, and the economy is hurting pediatrics because people have lost their health insurance and son can't afford to take their kids into their private docs to have their routine childcare done. (Which is probably why we're seeing a lot of whooping cough this year).

Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3039 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

Interesting Thread.
Out here Doctors mint money & depends on their IT declatations,so lots of spare cash.

In My Field....If one has a Licence on a particular type,chances are good,but Seniority in an organisation is an issue.as out here promotions are seniority based & NOT performance based.

Currently times are bad.....But a Job will be there def for a person that can work theoritically & Practically only there might be a need for a pay cut on the way.

regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

You should come to England Doc. We need all the doctors we can get hold of and you're career wouldn't be affected by the credit crunch in the NHS.

If I lost my job I could get a new one but I'm not sure I'd want it though.


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2998 times:



Quoting Babybus (Reply 2):
You should come to England Doc. We need all the doctors we can get hold of and you're career wouldn't be affected by the credit crunch in the NHS.

Same in Sweden too, and probably any country with a "socialized" medical system. But remember, Swedes are the prettiest people in the world, so even though we're all a little racist it can still be pleasant to move here, if nothing else just to look at us and rejoice.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2886 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

Actually I can. I'm currently looking at moving to Europe but that hasn't stopped domestic (US)recruiters from contacting me. I just had a guy tell me that if I decide to stay here in DC that he's got at least 3 jobs for me to choose from.

There are still plenty of jobs out there, it all depends on you having the right mix of skills to become more attractive to potential employers or perhaps be willing to relocate. It may take longer to find the "perfect" job but if you accept the fact that such a thing only exists in your dreams then you might find a job sooner.

Quoting Doona (Reply 3):
Swedes are the prettiest people in the world, so even though we're all a little racist it can still be pleasant to move here, if nothing else just to look at us and rejoice.

LOL! But you're absolutely right, it doesn't hurt to have some eye candy while you do your daily routine.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9221 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2885 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

I am already looking for something, even if I have to leave Pennsylvania to get a better job than the one I have now. I work as a housekeeper at a nursing home, and as of late, I think enduring 8 hours of root canal work would be more enjoyable than the torture I am enduring right now...

I am currently in a Masters program at West Chester University of PA pursuing a MA in geography and planning with a certificate in geographic information systems (GIS). I am looking out in the Midwest and Southeast for better jobs, primarily GIS jobs...

I just submitted my resume for a GIS job with HDR at their Lexington, KY office.

So, to answer the question of how easy it would be for me to find a job -- here in Pennsylvania, it's next to impossible IMHO...

As far as doctor jobs are considered, just be happy you don't live in wonderful Pennsylvania. I hear that malpractice insurance robs everyone here. I have heard of many doctors who left the area because they could not afford the malpractice insurance -- but that's a whole other can of worms, really...



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2863 times:



Quoting Charles79 (Reply 4):
There are still plenty of jobs out there, it all depends on you having the right mix of skills to become more attractive to potential employers or perhaps be willing to relocate. It may take longer to find the "perfect" job but if you accept the fact that such a thing only exists in your dreams then you might find a job sooner.

 checkmark  Absolutely.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2854 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

I've actually just found a second p/t job to help make up for some of what I lost when my hours were cut at my other p/t job. If I were to loose my full time job, however, finding a replacement would be easy. There are always openings in my field and I have a lot of contacts that I can call on to get some work.



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2841 times:



Quoting Doona (Reply 3):
Swedes are the prettiest people in the world

Mats Sundin & Peter Forsberg (for two quick examples) are what we are to consider "pretty"....?

Ummm...



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10049 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2832 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
acceptable replacement?

"Acceptable" is the key word. Sometimes you have to change what you would have previously found acceptable.

For me, just about any job that pays the bills is acceptable (at least, at this point in my life). I don't have to like it; I don't have to look forward to going into work every day.

Obviously, if I do enjoy what I do, it's a bonus. If I'm learning something, and if I feel that my mind is put to good use, it's great.

Quoting Doona (Reply 3):
so even though we're all a little racist it can still be pleasant to move here, if nothing else just to look at us and rejoice.

Haha, everyone's a little racist. At least, everyone who's at all interesting.... Smile

Quoting Charles79 (Reply 4):
It may take longer to find the "perfect" job but if you accept the fact that such a thing only exists in your dreams then you might find a job sooner.

 checkmark 



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2807 times:



Quoting A332 (Reply 8):
Mats Sundin & Peter Forsberg (for two quick examples) are what we are to consider "pretty"....?

We like to send the uggos overseas. Keep the good product for ourselves, so to speak.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2796 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I find myself unhappy in my job and I am considering, although not entirely sure yet, abandoning ship and going into private practice.

Just move north of the border!!!!! (Canada eh)!! Lots of work..... in your field.... and not to far away from home  Wink ..........

Cheerios,


User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2760 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job?

My job hunt could best be summarized by this:




I think I've heard every possible canned HR response imaginable.

 gnasher 


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

I know my mother found several of her medical field jobs through networking via conventions.

User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2681 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

Ominous thread timing--I was just laid off today, so I am about to find the latter out firsthand.
Anybody in NYC need a recent college grad to help out in the office?
I'm toilet trained, I swear.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2672 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job?

You can find ANY job in this current state of the economy, if you really know where to look, and if you look hard enough.



A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2662 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
I find myself unhappy in my job and I am considering, although not entirely sure yet, abandoning ship and going into private practice.

Move to Canada...very acute shortage of docs here. Hell...the govt. will even pay you sign in bonus and help with moving expenses if you want to move to a rural area. Plus the health care is paid by the govt. so even private practice works pretty good. Contact me if you need more info since I am in the field.



Life only makes sense when you look at it backwards.
User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2659 times:



Quoting Charles79 (Reply 4):
Actually I can. I'm currently looking at moving to Europe but that hasn't stopped domestic (US)recruiters from contacting me. I just had a guy tell me that if I decide to stay here in DC that he's got at least 3 jobs for me to choose from.

There are still plenty of jobs out there, it all depends on you having the right mix of skills to become more attractive to potential employers or perhaps be willing to relocate. It may take longer to find the "perfect" job but if you accept the fact that such a thing only exists in your dreams then you might find a job sooner.

I find that they all come racing to offer you jobs when you've found the job you are very happy with - so I have to find all sorts of nice ways to break the news to them.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 12):

I think I've heard every possible canned HR response imaginable.

gnasher

Don't give up - it's just that there are a lot of people in the job market, and the economic problems don't help. Just take whatever is available, even if it is awful.

Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job? If heaven forbid you lost yours, how easy would it be for you to find an acceptable replacement?

Something I dare not think about. I'm happy where I am and I intend to stay there. It wouldn't be so simple for me because I prefer working in public service - but there is a recruitment freeze at the moment.... I could probably find one if I had to though.


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

I've applied to several airlines hiring in Southern California, and so far haven't gotten any response, which is a little disheartening, because I have almost 2 years of experience and I have a passion for the airline industry...

Hopefully something will come through, but I won't lie- it can be difficult to remain optimistic and motivated.



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2632 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):
Can YOU find a job?

I wish. While I'm currently "employed" (meaning I earn peanuts working for my own school from which I just graduated) I can't get a pilots job and I doubt I will soon with this crap economy. I'm just shy of 250hrs total time but that ain't squat to anybody. I'm just hoping some friends of mine have an opening in a company and pull me in soon.


User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Rant alert:

Finding a job these days seems like it has nothing to do with merit or qualifications....its all about who you know and how much of a head you are willing to give. Plenty of advertised jobs are just 'advertised'...they have already been alloted to some friend of a relative of some d*ckwad who doesn't know any of the stuff but knows how to suck up the higer powers. Seen that happen a lot of times. Now I'm not saying that all jobs are like that...but more and more seem to be moving in that direction. You might not know diddly from squat but you know BOB from accounting who knows Karen from HR and you are a shoo in. It is not unheard of that some jobs are 'created' for a significant other or their relatives.

/rant



Life only makes sense when you look at it backwards.
User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2582 times:



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 20):
Finding a job these days seems like it has nothing to do with merit or qualifications....its all about who you know and how much of a head you are willing to give. Plenty of advertised jobs are just 'advertised'...they have already been alloted to some friend of a relative of some d*ckwad who doesn't know any of the stuff but knows how to suck up the higer powers. Seen that happen a lot of times. Now I'm not saying that all jobs are like that...but more and more seem to be moving in that direction. You might not know diddly from squat but you know BOB from accounting who knows Karen from HR and you are a shoo in. It is not unheard of that some jobs are 'created' for a significant other or their relatives.

That's very true. The other example is the job that was advertised because by law, it had to be, but they already have the candidate. Either they are acting in the position already, or they are contracting in it.

Those are annoying - I've seen a number of them like that, and was told about one job which had extremely high requirements. I saw it myself and was tempted to apply, but didn't. Some months later, I was talking to a colleague who knew someone else who knew people, and well, you know the rest - the specifically high requirements were for no other reason that they had two people already and wanted to change their positions to full time permanent.


User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2550 times:



Quoting Cpd (Reply 17):
Just take whatever is available, even if it is awful.

Believe me, if I get an offer, I'm taking it.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19807 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2543 times:



Quoting Charles79 (Reply 4):
There are still plenty of jobs out there, it all depends on you having the right mix of skills to become more attractive to potential employers or perhaps be willing to relocate.

Well, relocation for me is not an option. I can't leave SF again.

My skill set is very limited. I am a board-certified, licensed pediatrician and I am fully bilingual English/Spanish. I have a Masters in molecular biology

That qualifies me for the following jobs:
1) General Pediatrician
2) Clinical Professor of Pediatrics
3) Urgent Care Pediatrician
4) Clinical Research Scientist
5) Laboratory Research Scientist
6) High-falootin' drug company whore.

Can't find jobs in any of the above except 5, but they would never hire me because I'm overqualified to be a lab tech and underqualified to be a P.I.


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2527 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
High-falootin' drug company whore.

I'm assuming that one pays the best...

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
25 Post contains images StasisLAX : That's the problem I'm running into, Doc. I've 23 years of financial services management experience in a call center environment, but no employer wan
26 Charles79 : Beat me to the punch Mats...although from his looks he might only qualify for an entry level position! Sounds like you're in a tough position Stasis.
27 DocLightning : Talk about a back-handed compliment...
28 Charles79 : I knew you're smart enough to get it!
29 MCOflyer : Well, I am having a little trouble but I am speaking to a couple recruiters on Friday about p/t work. I only need 8hrs a week at $7-8 an hour. KH
30 CannibalZ3 : I graduated college and moved to the West Coast full of high hopes, but it's been mostly downhill from there. The list of jobs I have been rejected fo
31 RJ111 : I got laid off last year. Did a few months studying, then applied, applied and applied for about 3 weeks and got a pretty decent job. On more money th
32 Eric : Are you seriously paying a headhunter. I am not 100% how it works over there but in Europe, any headhunter who charges you money is a fraud alert. Us
33 ScarletHarlot : I have not seen exactly what you are describing. Networking is totally important. That is the way good jobs are found these days. But you still have
34 Post contains links Sv7887 : Good thread! I did lose my job a few months ago. We were "strategy consultants" (I say that in quotes because consulting is crock of you know what) t
35 Don81603 : In my chosen profession, (line haul truck driver with 15+ years experience, and numerous endorsements) I could quit at 08:00, stop for coffee, and be
36 Cadet57 : Agreed. All of the work I can find isnt "advertised" its word of mouth, or just asking " Wow, you can get by on 60 bucks a week? Wish we could all be
37 Sbworcs : I have recently decided that I need to change my job. I am an admin manager by title but most of my work actually involves data analysis and reporting
38 Roadrunner165 : Alaska: We have jobs.
39 StasisLAX : Very standard procedure here in the U.S.. The senior-level "employment consultants" (as mine likes to be called) will usually charge anywhere from 5
40 Eric : That is fair enough - but usually this fee will be absorbed by the recruiting company. I have two types of headhunters working for me at the moment.
41 MCOflyer : It's all I need to survive on currently and fortunately I do not need more unless I get a good car to complement my existing one. When I do get my jo
42 ShyFlyer : That's kinda how I lost my last job.
43 BN747 : 100% go into private practice! Nothing beats working for yourself! I'd map out all the Medical plaza/complexes in the area, take an accounting of all
44 Cairo : I have an email inbox full of solicitations from headhunters and I get called once a week or so to see if I'm interested in interviewing elsewhere. T
45 MOBflyer : I just got offered a job at a consulting firm - quite an upgrade from my current position at Chick-fil-a
46 Corinthians : I was in the same boat about a month ago. My company announced that they were going to close down our division in early June. I was doing corporate fi
47 StasisLAX : And this is exactly when hiring a good, well-connected "headhunter" can be worthwhile. The headhunters network with the HR people at these smaller co
48 Corinthians : And that's the problem: finding a well-connected headhunter. Most of them promise you the world, but don't generate jack. Out of the ones I've used i
49 Flybyguy : I guess this question goes out to American expats. How easy is it to get working papers overseas? I would figure that most countries outside the U.S.
50 StasisLAX : And the really good "search firms" (like CT Partners) are really expensive. You pay for what you get in this situation, IMO.
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