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U.S/Israel Attack Truck Convoy In Sudan  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2436 times:


Not clear who carried out the attack...key points:

A government minister in Sudan is accusing the United States Air Force of killing dozens of people in that north African country this past January – but the semi-official American version of the story is very different.

CBS News national security correspondent David Martin has been told that Israeli aircraft carried out the attack. Israeli intelligence is said to have discovered that weapons were being trucked through Sudan, heading north toward Egypt, whereupon they would cross the Sinai Desert and be smuggled into Hamas-held territory in Gaza.

In the airstrike in Sudan – said to have been "in a desert area northwest of Port Sudan city, near Mount al-Sha’anoon," according to SudanTribune.com – 39 people riding in 17 trucks were reportedly killed.

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User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 8687 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

Does not make much sense for Israel to launch a long distance attack into Sudan to destroy weapons heading to Gaza, they are attempting to local entry via tunnels, if it was nuclear or chemical weapons then yes, I would understand them wanting to destroy such a convoy.

If the US launched the attack, it was probably to get some high value person and not the weapons, same as the Israel situation, if it was just weapons, heck they could have offloaded the crew of the hijacked ship after it was released by the pirates and sunk it, would have gotton much more weapons that way.

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 7144 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Quoting Par13del (Reply 1):
Does not make much sense for Israel to launch a long distance attack into Sudan to destroy weapons heading to Gaza

I think that it's sending a message that "we'll get you" wherever you are. And in the deserts of Sudan there's no-one watching.

Looking on Google earth, it's more than 700 miles down the Red Sea to Port Sudan from Israel so presumably whichever aircraft did this flew over the wavetops to avoid Saudi radar 150 miles to the east. Or would Egypt have looked the other way? And to fly 700 miles to bomb or missile a convoy in a desert suggests that someone was watching. With satellites?

wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 2273 times:

Par13del, more like sending a message, anywhere, anytime, we can hit you if you try something.

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 9248 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 2263 times:

Meanwhile, is Egypt even a Western ally anymore? Omar al-Bashir spends two days there this week, meets with Mubarak, and nobody arrests him? Nonsense. Talk about thumbing your nose at the international community...

If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 8687 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 3):
Par13del, more like sending a message, anywhere, anytime, we can hit you if you try something.

Try what, to import grenades, AK-47's, ammunition, these things exist in Gaza now, they have stock piles which during the last conflict were not used and or destroyed, and in the various peace plans, no one is talking about removal of existing weapons, so unless these were nuclear or chemical weapons, what kind of message are you sending by telling Hamas that we can destory AK-47's enroute to you from Sudan, hello, they already have them. The bulk of Hamas weapons have been entering Gaza via tunnels into Egypt, I'm sure that Hamas does not have representatives going into European arms dealers purchasing weapons, purchases are made by thrid parties and in most cases, the only way to know for sure that they are destined for Hamas is probably when they get to the Egyptian / Gaza border, remember that there are dissidents groups in Egypt as well, how can you determine before hand that the weapons were not destined for them?

If the message was going toward Iran to show them the range and capability of Israel's assets, the jury rest on two sides of the issue, show that you can or actually do? Once you show, a footprint is left and counter measure will be implemented, when and if the real thing has to take place, your show and tell simply made things easier for the defender and more difficult for you.

I totally understand messages, but in my view, the time to send this type of message was a decade or so ago when Hamas first started getting weapons, messages after the fact are usually lost in translation.

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