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My Essay On US Airways- Feedback Please!  
User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

Fly With Us. That is Tempe Arizona based US Airways’ s Slogan. Ill tell you why you shouldn’t. US has problems- lots of them.

First, US has some pretty bad on time statistics. For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time. Yes, their statistic has improved, but really little. US Airways, In January of this year, had a flight delayed on the tarmac for 259 minutes.

Service is also problem at US. Until a few months ago, a traveler even HAD TO PAY FOR WATER on US. After a more than of instating this policy, they cancelled it. This is their Current Extra fee structure:

Domestic travel
The U.S. Government requires US Airways to collect the following taxes and fees in addition to our advertised fare for travel within the United States.
U.S. Domestic Segment Tax - $3.60 per flight segment, per passenger. A segment is defined as one takeoff and landing.
U.S. Security - September 11th Security Fee - $2.50 per flight segment. A segment is defined as one takeoff and landing.
Passenger Facility Charges (PFCs) - Local airports assess Passenger Facility Charges of $3 to $18 per passenger. This amount varies by airport.
Alaska/Hawaii - $8 per flight segment, per passenger on certain segments beginning or ending in Alaska or Hawaii.
International travel
The U.S. and foreign governments charge additional taxes and fees for international travel. International fares do not include government-imposed taxes/fees of up to $107. Taxes and fees are subject to change at the discretion of each country’s government and may be adjusted for inflation. You may be required to pay taxes or fees not already collected.

New first checked bag fee
US Airways will assess a $15 fee for passengers' first checked bags. If you purchased a ticket before July 9, the fee won't apply. We've also recently begun charging $25 for second checked bags. The new checked bag policies apply to all flights to and from Canada (beginning July 28, 2008 for flights to/from Canada) Latin America and the Caribbean, as well as flights within the U.S.
Checked baggage

Checked bags Under 50 lbs/23 kg 51-70 lbs/23-32 kg 71-100 lbs/32-45 kg Over 100 lbs/45 kg
First bag $15* $65* $115* Not accepted
Second bag $25* $75* $125* Not accepted
Third - ninth bag $100* $150* $200* Not accepted
The following passengers are exempt** from the first and second checked bag fee:
All Dividend Miles Preferred members (Silver, Gold, Platinum and Chairman's Preferred)
Passengers traveling to and from Europe, or to and from Asia
Star Alliance Silver and Gold status members
Unaccompanied minors
Passengers checking personal assistive devices
Confirmed First Class and Envoy passengers at time of check-in
Active military personnel with ID and government issued travel orders/on active duty status (luggage up to 99 lbs/45 kg free of charge)

If you're paying 10% of the adult fare for an infant to fly on an international flight, you are allowed:
1 checked bag with maximum total dimensions of 45 inches/114 cm and maximum weight of 50 pounds/23 kg
1 fully collapsible stroller or 1 child restraint device or car seat

*Fees listed are in USD and will be charged in the local equivalent currency. Some destinations outside of the continental U.S. have additional limitations on checked baggage at specific times of the year.
**No exemptions will be made for bags greater than 100 lbs/45 kg.
Service fees
Ticketing fee
US Airways adds a $25 fee ($35 international) for tickets purchased at Reservations and a $35 fee ($45 international) for tickets issued at airport and city ticket offices.
These ticket types are exempt from the booking fee:
US Airways Travel vouchers
Military fares
Interline and code share tickets (except Hawaiian Airlines and Mesa Airlines)
Government fares
US Airways gift cards and gift certificates
US Airways Guaranteed Airfare vouchers
US Airways Future Travel Awards
US Airways Air Checks
US Airways Vacation packages

Unaccompanied minor fee
A $100 each way ($200 roundtrip) service fee applies for all unaccompanied minors. Only one fee is required when two or more minors in the same family are traveling together. 'Same family' is defined as brother, sister, half-brother, half-sister, step-brother or step-sister.

If your itinerary includes a code-share flight, check with the airline of your first flight for unaccompanied minor policies and fees. Fee charges will be applied for each flight segment between your origin and final destination.

Lap children fee
On all international flights, lap children must have a paper ticket and are subject to applicable international taxes. Taxes must be paid at the ticket counter on the day of departure. A paper ticket will be issued at the time of payment. In addition, a 10% fee of the accompanying adult rate may apply depending on the international destination.

September 11th Security fee
The Transportation Security Administration requires that a September 11th Security Fee in the amount of $2.50 per segment (a segment is defined as one take-off and landing). This fee is collected for all passengers of domestic and international flights originating in the U.S., including award reservations. Fee is collected at time of ticketing.

Dividend Miles quick ticketing fee
A $50 service fee (per passenger) applies to Dividend Miles award bookings made on usairways.com when the booking date is less than 14 days from the travel date. Dividend Miles members with Chairman's or Platinum status are exempt from the quick ticketing fee.

Dividend Miles award processing fee
An award processing fee applies to tickets purchased with miles and will be reflected in the fare breakdown.


As you can see, US’ extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (CO, AA, DL) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

Something else that is annoying: They claim to be a full service mainline trunk carrier, and they are, in fact, a legacy, but, they act like a really, really bad version of Ryanair, which is an LCC, but they are probably better (Depends on your view of FR!). They said that, after the merger of America West, a true LCC, they where the biggest LCC of the United States. Comparing their fares to WN and FL, FL came in first with WN closely behind, with US faaaaaaaar behind. Plus, WN doesn’t have nearly as many fees as US. (Plus, most likely, their peanuts are better.)

Some people say that US is a good airline because of Capt. Sullenburger, that as we all know, crash landed flight 1549 in the Hudson. Well, first of all, he worked in the USAF, so he had extra training not provided by US. Second, he had joined US in its better days, before it was a so-called “LCC”, before the merger, and before a lot of things. Having a good pilot is essential, of course, but all airlines have good pilots. A bad pilot would be suspended by the FAA. In theory, safety is paramount, but no airline believes in that, so if safety is what you are worried about, all airlines, including US are equally safe. As long as they are authorized to fly within the US and the European Union, all airlines are basically equal.

US also has Staff that is not that great. Just when I board one of their aircraft, I just don’t feel the “I like my job” feeling that I feel on AA and DL. On AA, a pilot gave me a tour of the cockpit (keep in mind, this was after 9/11).

Plus, on US’s aircraft, the interior is pretty beat up and dirty, unlike WN, which is a real LCC. WN also has a relatively new fleet, 9.8 years old on average, US’s being 13.5, which is quite good, but WN’s is a lot better.


If I had to choose the best thing about US, it would likely be their name, which represents the country (Personally, American is a lot better). Their livery is not particularly nice, but I have seen worse. Their old livery, like UA’s old colors, was terrible. If you want to see pictures, search Airliners.Net.

And from an airplane nut’s standpoint, I don’t like US because they swallowed PSA, Paramount, America West, and many other airlines. DL did the same, but they are, in general, a great airline with great
staff. If anyone from US reads this, please don’t take it in maliciously, as it is not meant that way. This is just from my personal standpoint.

Hey guys, can you guys give me feedback for my essay? I am in the 6th grade, so think this as a middle school essay.

[Edited 2009-04-09 13:50:45]


The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

I think its a well-written essay for someone who is in the sixth grade. I do not know if your teacher requires you to cite sources, but obviously you did not come up with all of your information. So, if required, I encourage you to cite your sources to avoid plagarism. Also - take out the airline lingo so it is easier for those who do not understand the acronyms and IATA codes, like the aviation buffs do. Example: AA - American Airlines. I think a major acronym not many people would guess on the first try would be LCC. Just spell out low-cost carrier. Anyways, there's my two cents.


Not all of us can be heroes, some of us can only stand on the sidewalk and clap as they go by.
User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Yeah, I found a majority of the information in your essay word for word on USAirways.com: http://www.usairways.com/awa/content...g/ticketingpolicies/taxesfees.aspx

So, if your teacher requires, I'd cite this web address.



Not all of us can be heroes, some of us can only stand on the sidewalk and clap as they go by.
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3633 times:

I'll limit myself a bit ...

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time.

a) this information is 4 years old - hardly something to quote in 2009.
b) If you insist to quote, add the routing - and if available a reason for the daily delay (might even be that one of the airports involved is to blame .
(BTW, you should include how "Delay" is defined.)

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Yes, their statistic has improved, but really little.

Backing ? Figures ?

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
US Airways, In January of this year, had a flight delayed on the tarmac for 259 minutes.

When ? Where ? Where to ? Was Weather to blame ?

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 1):
Also - take out the airline lingo so it is easier for those who do not understand the acronyms and IATA codes, like the aviation buffs do. Example: AA - American Airlines.

ditto.

Alternative, only if the whole class is writing about airlines, put a table of acronyms at the bottom.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Domestic travel

The fees you quote here are to be paid by any airline, not just US. So, there is no point in quoting them.

___________
Your essay does not diffenrenciate between quotes from a source and your own comments - but this might be due to formatting here on A.net.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
If you purchased a ticket before July 9, the fee won't apply. We've

"July 9th" 2008, I think it is, not 2009 ?!
Replace the "We've"

-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently onlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

What is the topic of the essay? What is the point you're make?
I would get rid of all the text you copy-pasted from the US Airways website as it is not even a coherent text and is too obvious attempt to "stuff" the text only to meet the required word count.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3607 times:



Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 1):

Being a tutor, I agree 100% with you. Also, I encourage the OP to get familiar with MLA format. This how you will cite your sources and format the essays you will write in college and highschool if you take AP classes. Better off to get used to it now than later.

Feel free to send me an IM if you need any help. For the record, I have yet to get any grade lower than a 100 on my papers this semester.

Overall, change the abbreviations to words and once you do the first time, you can abbreviate if your teacher permits it. Some teachers are very picky on this stuff. Let us know which grade you get.

KH



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3596 times:

Hey Guys, I'm sorry i did not say it was a draft... i am going to reduce the US text ( I don't have a required word count) and i am going to cite the source at the bottom of the page, but that was not immediately essential... I need to take out a couple of the fees, as they are from the FAA. Thanks for the feedback. again, its only a draft! The teachers told us to just make an persuasive essay, so i just had to make one aviation related. The only other aviation one i have made was in fourth grade, talking about why Boeing was better... I read it now and i laugh!


The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3574 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Unaccompanied minor fee
A $100 each way ($200 roundtrip) service fee applies for all unaccompanied minors. Only one fee is required when two or more minors in the same family are traveling together. 'Same family' is defined as brother, sister, half-brother, half-sister, step-brother or step-sister.

Most US airlines have Unaccompanied minor fees - the exact fees vary from airline to airline but they aren't cheap regardless.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
New first checked bag fee

Most of the legacies have bag fees now too. Cost me $30 round trip to bring my golf clubs home over Spring Break on DL.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Lap children fee
On all international flights, lap children must have a paper ticket and are subject to applicable international taxes.

Taxes don't go to the airline, and since this is a not policy on domestic flights in the US means it probably has something to do with the country on the destination end of the flight.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
September 11th Security fee

Applies to all airlines.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Dividend Miles award processing fee

I believe DL has those too. Even if you book a ticket using 25,000 Skymiles the ticket will still cost you like $25 I believe, some of that being the Sept. 11 security fee. I'd have to check the DL website though but since its your paper and thus your research (and your point to make) you should do the research on your own.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Something else that is annoying: They claim to be a full service mainline trunk carrier, and they are, in fact, a legacy, but, they act like a really, really bad version of Ryanair, which is an LCC,

Your teacher who grades this probably won't understand the Ryanair comparison. An explaination of what an "LCC" is.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Some people say that US is a good airline because of Capt. Sullenburger, that as we all know, crash landed flight 1549 in the Hudson.

Don't assume your teacher will automatically know who Capt. Sullenberger.


Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
US also has Staff that is not that great. Just when I board one of their aircraft, I just don%u2019t feel the %u201CI like my job%u201D feeling that I feel on AA and DL. On AA, a pilot gave me a tour of the cockpit (keep in mind, this was after 9/11).

You're going to have to back that up with more sustainable statements and facts.
AA is the only mainline airline to deny me access to the cockpit for photos (my first flight on an A300 from MIA to MCO back in 2006). The only other time I was denied photos was back in 2007 on a Republic/US Airways Express E-175. I was allowed to look into the cockpit but not take photos.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
If I had to choose the best thing about US, it would likely be their name, which represents the country (Personally, American is a lot better). Their livery is not particularly nice, but I have seen worse. Their old livery, like UA%u2019s old colors, was terrible. If you want to see pictures, search Airliners.Net.

Well for starters, you trying pursuade someone not to fly US simply because in your opinion they have an ugly paint job is pretty weak. But you probably shouldn't tell the teacher to just search airliners.net for a picture. You should either provide a picture yourself or provide a URL to a specific picture.

As for US Airways merging with other airlines over the years, to most people that means nothing. It's a business transaction to them and nothing more. If you're using this as a basis for why US Airways is a bad company, explain why this one was different.


Overall, your essay sounds like a pure rant against US without any real basis - perhaps from just one bad experience. You also need to do improve on explaining details, acroynms, etc. You have to assume your teacher doesn't know anything about the airline industry. Most people outside of the aviation industry would have no clue what "DL" or "LCC" means, yet alone "WN".


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3570 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 6):

no worries. were here to help. post the revised version would you? see the im.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3540 times:

It appears that your paper is geared more towards the A.net crowd than an instructor/reader form whom this may be their initial introduction to civil aviation. I would suggest that you introduce your readers to the terminology and abbreviations of the genre before using them repeatedly in your paper.

In addition using phrases such as "Plus, on US’s aircraft, the interior is pretty beat up" might night be the best way to describe the cleanliness and general state of repair of a given aircraft. it would be similar to saying a specific jet engine was "cool" both statements may be true but it is not what an instructor is looking for.

i see that you have indicated that you will include proper citations with your paper and that is a good thing as omitting them may result in an incomplete grade for your paper. Making a simple omission of that type would be a sure way to waste a good amount of time and effort


IHAP

edited to remove repetition of an earlier post that was worded far better by another member

I see that it has been mentioned that your paper relies very heavily on information from another website and I suggest a bit of rewording to make the paper more of your "own"

[Edited 2009-04-09 19:21:07]


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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3517 times:



Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 4):
would get rid of all the text you copy-pasted from the US Airways website as it is not even a coherent text and is too obvious attempt to "stuff" the text only to meet the required word count.

I would tend to agree. Elipses can be your friend to help to extract the parts you want the reader to care about out of a large block of text. "US Air's Website says that they 'ipso facto prime facie [...] et al'" -- my eyes kind of glazed over with all of that because I wasn't sure what I was suposed to care about.

Another question is you should ask in relationship to every fact/quote/etc is "Why does (or should) the reader care?" If it's because of nicke and diming provide a comparison to other carriers. If it's customer service, provide concrete examples (and/or comparisons to other carriers). If you can't answer the question -- or if the answer is weak, push it to the side and only use it if you have to.

Another suggestion: Get in the habit of use more concrete/quantifiable details. Don't get in the habit of "weaseling" with words. Using vauge references like "many"/"most"/"everyone"/"no one" doesn't really help you to make your point. Who are "most people"? I don't think that, am I not "everyone"?

Instead, something like "Many seasoned travelers, such as John Doe, think that..." (if, of course you can find an actual person to attribute the belief to -- which you should be able to if "many people" are saying/doing/thinking) can really make the argument more persuasive.

One example from your essay is "Yes, their statistic has improved, but really little." -- give more quantitave detail. What was their statistic before? What is it now? What is the delta (difference, not the airline  Wink ) -- Something like "Yes, their ontime performance has increased, but only by 0.5% since January of 1911" (fake numbers) does a much better job of selling me on how lousy they are than "really little"

The Wikipedia style guide has a little bit more on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 5):
I encourage the OP to get familiar with MLA format.

MLA certainly is (was?) the more popular citation format when I was in high school, but there are others (APA comes to mind, and I think Chicago is the most common in the "real world")... At 6th grade though, there are more important things to be concerned about right now, IMHO.

Giving credit to source material, in whatever format, though will become very important. Virtually all of the teachers/professors I had in High School and College viewed the use of someone else's text (either literally or paraphrased) without "valid" citation of some kind as equal to plagarism, and in academia plagarism is tantamount to outright theft.

Hope this helps -- good luck!

Lincoln



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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

Hi Branniff! For a 6th grader, this is good. It's good you are starting to write papers that you state your case and you back it up with info. I'm now in 8th grade and I started my passion of aviation in 5th grade.

While I do admire your interest of aviation, I do have some arguments:

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
As you can see, US’ extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (CO, AA, DL) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

For most people in these times, their loyalty is to their wallets. That said, their loyalty is with US  Smile. I'm always sick of hearing how cheap SWA's fares are when I can find it cheaper with US (even with taxes).

Ex:

My trip ORF-BWI:

US: $120r/t
WN: $200+r/t

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Comparing their fares to WN and FL, FL came in first with WN closely behind, with US faaaaaaaar behind.

Also, it depends on what your market is. Some markets have different circumstances. Like here in ORF/PHF, I do believe the cheap one is US out of both PHF and ORF.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
WN doesn’t have nearly as many fees as US. (Plus, most likely, their peanuts are better.)

As I said, a majority of the time, the fares are higher

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
US also has Staff that is not that great.

Go to CLT! They are wonderful there! Honestly, PHL is not the best place in the world, but they are somewhat nice. The only bad staff agent was at the US Airways Club.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
I just don’t feel the “I like my job” feeling

When I give them my Hat story, it seems to boost the employees morale knowing somebody cares about thier work. They've always seemed nice and I've done 30+ flights with US.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
And from an airplane nut’s standpoint, I don’t like US because they swallowed PSA, Paramount, America West, and many other airlines.

That's the resaon why I loved the airline industry. Dog eat dog world. Fun mergers!

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
I am in the 6th grade, so think this as a middle school essay.

I'm graduating middle school this year  Smile. I wish I had the opportunity to write an aviation paper Big grin

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Yes, their statistic has improved, but really little

But, a really little made US #1 in 2009  Smile

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
a traveler even HAD TO PAY FOR WATER on US. After a more than of instating this policy, they cancelled it

The best way to learn is to learn from your mistakes  Smile

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
Dividend Miles award processing fee
An award processing fee applies to tickets purchased with miles and will be reflected in the fare breakdown.

Other airlines charge a fee for award redemption.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
On AA, a pilot gave me a tour of the cockpit (keep in mind, this was after 9/11).

So far, US and UA have given me cockpit tours, about 3x and 2x respectively.

It seems like a good piece where you take a position and prove it, and I'm merely playing along with the paper. Great job on the paper! But I do disagree with the stance  Smile.

Speaking of 6th grade: That is when I started to "edit" US Airways Mag and that's when I visited US HQ in Tempe  Smile. Ever since, I have a little "hat story" I tell various employees, but its too long to post, lest someone tells me otherwise.

Tip: It all depends on the point of view and your surroundings and experiences. That's why I don't like it when people critize a whole airline (mainly because the airline being bashed is US  Smile ). I don't mind it when people tell what happened in their experiences and tell what may have been done better and comparing it to other experiecnes, but seeing this is a motivational paper, it does the job  Smile.

I think people kinda know I am pro-US, so I'm gonna go to sleep and check in on this thread come morning. I wonder what would happen  duck 



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Side note:
People do fly US !
Only 24 hours ago I was connecting on US at CLT and the terminal was bursting with passengers for the 1000pm departure bank.
My flights ORF-CLT and CLT-BNA had load factors around 90%.
But then, this was pre-Easter season.
-HT



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Hey, thanks for all the help, i will edit my paper today (Like i said, all he stuff from Their web site) and couple of more things.

PS. The normal citation format is MLA.


BN



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6923 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3405 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
First, US has some pretty bad on time statistics. For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time.

I would omit this- use current stats and aggregate ones, avoid singling out individual flights.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
As you can see, US’ extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (CO, AA, DL) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

Hate to break it to you but all the carriers have fees like US...almost all of those you identified, UM fees, etc, are pretty much industry standard.


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3391 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 12):
Hi Branniff! For a 6th grader, this is good. It's good you are starting to write papers that you state your case and you back it up with info. I'm now in 8th grade and I started my passion of aviation in 5th grade.

I started liking airplanes since i was 3  Smile



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

Fly With Us. That is Tempe Arizona based US Airways’ s Slogan. Ill tell you why you shouldn’t. US has problems- lots of them.


(Fly with US slogan picture)




First, US has some pretty bad on time statistics. For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time. Yes, their statistic has improved, making them 1st in the United States for 2009. But, US Airways, In January of this year, had a flight delayed on the tarmac for 259 minutes, not related to the whether. This is the logiest hold as of February of this year

Service is also problem at US. Until a few months ago, a traveler even HAD TO PAY FOR WATER on US. After a more than of instating this policy, they cancelled it. This is their Current Extra fee structure:

New first checked bag fee
US Airways will assess a $15 fee for passengers' first checked bags. A ticket. They are also charging $25 for second checked bags. Fee applies to all domestic flights, and flights to/from Canada and Mexico.
Checked baggage

Checked bags Under 50 lbs/23 kg 51-70 lbs/23-32 kg 71-100 lbs/32-45 kg Over 100 lbs/45 kg
First bag $15* $65* $115* Not accepted
Second bag $25* $75* $125* Not accepted
Third - ninth bag $100* $150* $200* Not accepted
If you're paying 10% of the adult fare for an infant to fly on an international flight, they allow you:
1 checked bag with maximum total dimensions of 45 inches/114 cm and maximum weight of 50 pounds/23 kg
1 fully collapsible stroller or 1 child restraint device or car seat

Service fees
Ticketing fee
US Airways adds a $25 fee ($35 international) for tickets purchased at Reservations, and a $35 fee ($45 international) for tickets issued at the airport and ticket offices.

Unaccompanied minor fee
A $100 each way ($200 roundtrip) service fee applies for all unaccompanied people under 18. Only one fee is required when two or more minors in the same family are traveling together.

Lap children fee
On all international flights, lap children must have a paper ticket. Taxes must be paid at the ticket counter on the day of departure. A paper ticket will be issued at the time of payment. In addition, a 10% fee of the accompanying adult rate may apply.

Dividend Miles ticketing fee
A $50 service fee applies to Dividend Miles award bookings made on usairways.com when the booking date is less than 14 days from the travel date.

Dividend Miles award processing fee
An award processing fee applies to tickets purchased with miles and will be reflected in the fare breakdown.


As you can see, US’ extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (Continental) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

Something else that is annoying: They claim to be a full service mainline trunk carrier, and they are, in fact, a legacy, but, they act like a really, really bad version of Ryanair, which is an LCC, but they are probably better (Depends on your view of Ryanair!). They said that, after the merger of America West, a true LCC, they where the biggest LCC of the United States. Comparing their fares to Southwest and Air Tran, Air Tran came in first with Southwest closely behind, with US faaaaaaaar behind. Plus, Southwest doesn’t have nearly as many fees as US. (Plus, most likely, their peanuts are better.)

Some people say that US is a good airline because of Capt. Sullenburger, that as we all know, crash landed the US plane (Flight 1549) in the Hudson. Well, first of all, he worked in the USAF, so he had extra training not provided by US. Second, he had joined US in its better days, before it was a so-called “LCC”, before the merger, and before a lot of things. Having a good pilot is essential, of course, but all airlines have good pilots. A bad pilot would be suspended by the FAA. In theory, safety is paramount, but no airline believes in that, so if safety is what you are worried about, all airlines, including US are equally safe. As long as they are authorized to fly within the US and the European Union, all airlines are basically equal.

US also has Staff that is not that great. Just when I board one of their aircraft, I just don’t feel the “I like my job” feeling that I feel on AA and DL. On AA, a pilot gave me a tour of the cockpit with out me asking (keep in mind, this was after 9/11).

Plus, on US’s aircraft, the interior is pretty beat up and dirty, unlike Southwest, which is a real LCC. Southwest also has a relatively new fleet, 9.8 years old on average, US’s being 13.5, which is quite good, but Southwest’s is a lot better.


If I had to choose the best thing about US, it would likely be their name, which represents the country (Personally, American is a lot better). Their livery is not particularly nice, but I have seen worse. Their old livery, like UA’s old colors, was terrible.

And from an airplane nut’s standpoint (Complete personal, no facts!), I don’t like US because they swallowed PSA, and made their beautiful smiling planes disappear, except one that they operate in a hybrid, in PSA colors with US titles. If anyone from US reads this, please don’t take it in maliciously, as it is not meant that way. This is just from my personal standpoint.





(Picture of a US 320)





US Airways. "Taxes and fees." 2009 [UCLA Lab School] 4/10/. 2009
http://www.usairways.com/awa/content...g/ticketingpolicies/taxesfees.aspx




Hey, its me again. edited my essay, but its a 2 draft, i will work on it on the weekend, i did this from the school computer, with authorization of using A.net as a resource. Best authorization ever! Big grin



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User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3355 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
Plus, on US’s aircraft, the interior is pretty beat up and dirty, unlike Southwest, which is a real LCC. Southwest also has a relatively new fleet, 9.8 years old on average, US’s being 13.5, which is quite good, but Southwest’s is a lot better.

You still have not told your target audience what an "LCC" is (remember they may not be aware of the lingo of the genre). In addition you still are using phrases such as "pretty beat up" when describing the state of aircraft interiors. Such phrasing is a bit out of place in an academic paper.



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User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 3013 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

Fly With Us. That is Tempe Arizona based US Airways’ s Slogan. Ill tell you why you shouldn’t. US has problems- lots of them.







First, US has some pretty bad on time statistics. For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time. Yes, their statistic has improved, making them 1st in the United States for 2009. But, US Airways, In January of this year, had a flight delayed on the tarmac for 259 minutes, not related to the whether. This is the logiest hold as of February of this year

Service is also problem at US. Until a few months ago, a traveler even HAD TO PAY FOR WATER on US. After a more than a yera of instating this policy, they cancelled it. This is their Current Extra fee structure:

First checked bag fee
US Airways will assess a $15 fee for passengers' first checked bags. A ticket. They are also charging $25 for second checked bags. Fee applies to all domestic flights, and flights to/from Canada and Mexico.
Checked baggage

Checked bags Under 50 lbs/23 kg 51-70 lbs/23-32 kg 71-100 lbs/32-45 kg Over 100 lbs/45 kg
First bag $15* $65* $115* Not accepted
Second bag $25* $75* $125* Not accepted
Third - ninth bag $100* $150* $200* Not accepted
If you're paying 10% of the adult fare for an infant to fly on an international flight, they allow you:
1 checked bag with maximum total dimensions of 45 inches/114 cm and maximum weight of 50 pounds/23 kg
1 fully collapsible stroller or 1 child restraint device or car seat

Service fees
Ticketing fee
US Airways adds a $25 fee ($35 international) for tickets purchased at Reservations, and a $35 fee ($45 international) for tickets issued at the airport and ticket offices.


Unaccompanied minor fee
A $100 each way ($200 roundtrip) service fee applies for all unaccompanied people under 18. Only one fee is required when two or more minors in the same family are traveling together.

Lap children fee
On all international flights, lap children must have a paper ticket. Taxes must be paid at the ticket counter on the day of departure. A paper ticket will be issued at the time of payment. In addition, a 10% fee of the accompanying adult rate may apply.

Dividend Miles ticketing fee
A $50 service fee applies to Dividend Miles award bookings made on usairways.com when the booking date is less than 14 days from the travel date.

Dividend Miles award processing fee
An award processing fee applies to tickets purchased with miles and will be reflected in the fare breakdown.


As you can see, US Airways extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (Continental) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

Something else that is annoying about US Airways: They claim to be a full service mainline trunk carrier, and they are, in fact, a legacy, but, they act like a really, really bad version of Shouthwest, which is an Low Cost Carier, but they are probably better (Depends on your view of Ryanair!). They said that, after the merger of America West, a true LCC, they where the biggest LCC of the United States. Comparing their fares to Southwest and Air Tran, Air Tran came in first with Southwest closely behind, with US faaaaaaaar behind. Plus, Southwest doesn’t have nearly as many fees as US. (Plus, most likely, their peanuts are better.)

Some people say that US is a good airline because of Capt. Sullenburger, that as we all know, crash landed the US plane (Flight 1549) in the Hudson. Well, first of all, he worked in the USAF, so he had extra training not provided by US. Second, he had joined US in its better days, before it was a so-called “LCC”, before the merger. Having a good pilot is essential, of course, but all airlines have good pilots. A bad pilot would be suspended by the FAA. In theory, safety is paramount, but no airline believes in that, so if safety is what you are worried about, all airlines, including US are equally safe. As long as they are authorized to fly within the US and the European Union, all airlines are basically equal.

US also has Staff that is not that great. Just when I board one of their aircraft, I just don’t feel the “I like my job” feeling that I feel on AA and DL. On AA, a pilot gave me a tour of the cockpit with out me asking (keep in mind, this was after 9/11).

Plus, on US’s aircraft, the interior is ussually beat up and dirty, unlike Southwest, which is a real LCC. Southwest also has a relatively new fleet, 9.8 years old on average, US’s being 13.5, which is quite good, but Southwest’s is a lot better.


If I had to choose the best thing about US, it would likely be their name, which represents the country (Personally, American is a lot better). Their livery is not particularly nice, but I have seen worse. Their old livery, like UA’s old colors, was terrible.

And from an airplane nut’s standpoint (Complete personal, no facts!), I don’t like US because they swallowed PSA, and made their beautiful smiling planes disappear, except one that they operate in a hybrid, in PSA colors with US titles. If anyone from US reads this, please don’t take it in maliciously, as it is not meant that way. This is just from my personal standpoint.











US Airways. "Taxes and fees." 2009 [UCLA Lab School] 4/10/. 2009
http://www.usairways.com/awa/content...planning/ticketingpolicies/taxesfe


Revised 2 draft, because the teacher gave me 5 extra min. i will finish subing all the LCC, UA, AA, etc on the weekend. Thanks again for the feedback.



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3342 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
For Example, in July of 05, US flight 1619 was late 100% of the time.

Any explaination for why?

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
But, US Airways, In January of this year, had a flight delayed on the tarmac for 259 minutes, not related to the whether.

That's "weather".

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
New first checked bag fee
US Airways will assess a $15 fee for passengers' first checked bags. A ticket. They are also charging $25 for second checked bags. Fee applies to all domestic flights, and flights to/from Canada and Mexico.
Checked baggage

Delta has the exact same bag fee.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
A $100 each way ($200 roundtrip) service fee applies for all unaccompanied people under 18

18 or 15 years old? Most airlines in the US stop UM fees at 15 years old.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
As you can see, US’ extra fee structure is impressive. They charge you little money in tickets, but a ton of money in fees; it is better to fly an airline that includes everything or almost everything (Continental) than to spend 100+ for bad food, drinks and more.

That's an opinion, not a fact and should be clearly stated as such.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
Something else that is annoying: They claim to be a full service mainline trunk carrier, and they are, in fact, a legacy, but, they act like a really, really bad version of Ryanair, which is an LCC,

Again - you should explain what Ryanair is (and what an LCC is). Also, the two are not necessarily one in the same. "Low Cost Carrier" varies from "Low Fare Carrier". Odds are your teacher has never heard of Ryanair or even if they have, will not understand the reference.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
really bad version of Ryanair, which is an LCC, but they are probably better

Which airline does "They" refer to? US or Ryanair?

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 18):
Their livery is not particularly nice, but I have seen worse. Their old livery, like UA’s old colors, was terrible.

You expect your teacher to get this reference? I wouldn't.


In a nutshell, if I were the teacher, this would receive a fairly low grade because you don't describe what you're talking about to much (if any) extent. The only reason I personally know what you're refering to is because I already did before reading this. If I'm reading this correctly, your reasons for recommending people don't fly US are: A) Their ontime stats (which you counter by pointing out that they are number 1, and any statistician will tell you that the two flights you point out among thousands are statictically insignificant). B) Their cost structure, which you do an *okay* job of describing, but fail to mention that many of their fees are not unique to US - you just try to present in that way. C) Their paint job is ugly, which if I was the teacher I would just laugh (esp since I like the new US Airways livery but lets pretend I know nothing about US up to this point). D) You don't like their staff - again you provide no information to back this up, only provide one example of how AA went above and beyond by giving you a tour of the cockpit but that doesn't make US Airways a bad airline. The point of a pursuassive paper like the one you are writing is to back up your overall opinions with clear facts and statements; not simply with other opinions.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

Like some have said, not bad for a 6th grader, but you really REALLY need to eliminate a lot of your personal opinions. You make them sound as if they are fact. They may be, but you have to have a way to prove your points.

User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

I am sorry that I can not offer the detailed high quality advice offer by members such as FlyDeltaJets87, Lincoln, StarAlliance38 and UAL747.I can say that i have seen you take the advice offered to you and use it to improve your paper. I advise you to look carefully at what has been offered to you some of it has been very good and some (I guess this would include some of my own advice) might be better ignored. Practice using your investigative skills to see whose advice you should take.

Keep up the good work and I am impressed that even in the 6th grade you are willing to look for ways to improve your work and take steps to do so. I assure you that others here have done what you are doing and some have not taken the advice as well as you have

IHAP



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3273 times:



Quoting Braniff747SP (Thread starter):
I don’t like US because they swallowed PSA, Paramount, America West, and many other airlines.

Personally, I would take this out as this is false. US did not swallow up HP and that is a fact.



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User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3264 times:

Whats wrong with paying for water? We have to do it in Australia for years... Virgin, Jetstar and Tiger all charge for bottled water, and soft drink..

User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

I know someone asked earlier and maybe I missed the answer, but what was the prompt for this essay? This is going to sound like everyone else, but for a 6th grader, that's a damn good paper. You're just out of Elementary and you're writing that good! I was in AP World History this year, and I've had enough Document Based Questions. My one piece of advice, which other people have also said to do, you should really replace the IATA codes with the full airline name.

Other than that, it's a truly top notch paper for your grade level.  thumbsup 



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25 Chepos : You are obligated to pay for UM feee only if you are 14 or younger-flying unaccompanied, the UM service is an option for 15 to 18 y/o's- optional bein
26 Braniff747SP : Thanks for all the feedback, i fixed the things & sent it in.
27 UAL757 : How does an airline's livery decide if you will fly with them or not? Actually, nice paper for a 6th grader.
28 Braniff747SP : Ha! thanks for the only positive comment. (Please don't start saying that i did not want contructive critsim, which i did want)/
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