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Allies Caught Red-handed On Torture Video  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1770 times:

A video tape smuggled out of the United Arab Emirates shows a member of the country's royal family mercilessly torturing a man with whips, electric cattle prods and wooden planks with protruding nails.


"UAE is one of the closest allies of the US in the Middle East and the US Navy operates out of a major base near Dubai. It is also one of the biggest customers for US weapons, having signed a $6.9 billion arms deal with Washington in 2008. The UAE is seen by the US as a critical ally in its self-styled “war on terror.”

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=92354§ionid=351020205

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7401720

We have become dependent on oil rich nations that support us defending our interrest and we turn a blind eye sometimes.

Friends doing bad things is far to complicated for most people / the press.

Better go after the Pirates ! It's simple & gives great footage !

[Edited 2009-04-24 02:29:19]

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User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1755 times:

Some people, no matter how much money and education they get, still stay in the barbarian - animal category where they belong...

User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8791 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

I wonder how many people will say that there is no difference between whips, electric cattle prods and wooden planks with protruding nails, and the waterboarding and sleep deprivation.


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Not shown in the video are further acts in which "He uses an electric cattle prod against the man's testicles and inserts it in his anus. At another point, as the man wails in pain, the Sheikh pours lighter fluid on the man's testicles and sets them aflame."

The torturer won't be prosecuted, because the matter was "settled privately," and the government said "all rules, policies and procedures were followed correctly by the Police Department."

He (Sheikh Issa Bin Zayed Al Nayhan) is the son of the late United Arab Emirates President Zayed Bin Sultan Al Nahyan and brother of Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

Another brother is the head of police department.

The US embassy has had the tapes in its possesion for yrs.


User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1651 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 3):

How was the matter settled? Is the guy being tortured alive today or dead? Even if he is alive I can't even imagine the damage he suffered.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16820 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1649 times:



Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
"UAE is one of the closest allies of the US in the Middle East and the US Navy operates out of a major base near Duba

Someone needs to get their facts straight, the US Navy's FIfth Fleet is in Bahrain not Dubai.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/c5f.htm



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1610 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
Someone needs to get their facts straight, the US Navy's FIfth Fleet is in Bahrain not Dubai.

The facility they are referring to is the deep water ports at Jebel Ali where US navy vessels frequently dock. The 5th Fleet was never mentioned.

Based on what I know of the UAE this doesn't surprise me even slightly.


YOWza



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7693 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1594 times:
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Absolutely disgusting.


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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3941 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

And to think there are people who still find Dubai and other of the Emirates an acceptable place to vacation in...


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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1558 times:



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 8):
And to think there are people who still find Dubai and other of the Emirates an acceptable place to vacation in...

I don't know that this incident should be used to blanket the entire UAE. I would imagine you have vacationed somewhere with a patchy rights record or own clothes made in a country with such a record. Let's not get too up ourselves.


YOWza



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19411 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1549 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
I wonder how many people will say that there is no difference between whips, electric cattle prods and wooden planks with protruding nails, and the waterboarding and sleep deprivation.

There isn't much of a difference. Both have the capability to cause horror, permanent physical damage, and long-lasting psychological trauma.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7693 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1534 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
There isn't much of a difference. Both have the capability to cause horror, permanent physical damage, and long-lasting psychological trauma.

Very true, and in any case, one wrong does not excuse another, and two wrongs don't make a right.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Dubai isn't exactly paradise. There are reports of slave like labour (e.g. workers from India get their passports taken away for the time they work, which is almost 24/7), you literally fall into disgrace if you've acumulated major debt and they take your passport away as well, the newly built buildings are starting to crack, etc. If someone thinks Dubai is paradise to live, he or she is wrong once they read about the reports on how things really are over there.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...he-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8791 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1492 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
There isn't much of a difference. Both have the capability to cause horror, permanent physical damage, and long-lasting psychological trauma.

So Military training (for special ops and for many pilots) and College Frat parties are the same as medieval torture.

Sometimes I really wonder if we don't live in different universes...



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 13):

So Military training (for special ops and for many pilots) and College Frat parties are the same as medieval torture

For Military Training and Frat Parties you are consenting to participate. I don't think the Spanish Inquistion gave you a choice.

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[Edited 2009-04-24 13:44:08]


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8791 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1465 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 14):
For Military Training and Frat Parties you are consenting to participate. I don't think the Spanish Inquistion gave you a choice.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1449 times:
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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 15):
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

No one expects the Spanish Inquistion!!

Happy Friday everyone.. Have a drink and relax!



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