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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Ah, why am I NOT surprised, coming from FOX!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...bamas-prime-time-press-conference/

Yes, it'll be on RNN...eeeer, I mean, FOX News Network, but it is unconscionable to me that any network would not carry an address by the President. You imagine the outrage from the right had CBS, NBC or ABC done this to President Bush?

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User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2664 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
is unconscionable to me that any network would not carry an address by the President.

Ehh, it's their network and their money. I must admit I hate when I flip from one channel to the other and keep getting the same damn thing. Goes for the radio address' too.

Why do you actually need the presidents address on seven channels (when all are equally available to the public)?

Tugg



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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2660 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 1):
Why do you actually need the presidents address on seven channels (when all are equally available to the public)?

You can add to that, the presidents address will be hashed and rehashed to days to come.

Probably nothing more than another "Crisis"

Okie


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2652 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 1):
Why do you actually need the presidents address on seven channels (when all are equally available to the public)?

Because it's the President of the United States. It should never be an issue, no matter who the POTUS is.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2653 times:



Quoting Okie (Reply 2):
Probably nothing more than another "Crisis"

He is actually going to discuss his first 100 days in office. No "crisis". Sorry.  Big grin


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11214 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2634 times:

I do have to say I'm kind of on Fox's side. The networks shouldn't have to play a non-essential address if they don't want to.

A recap of his 100 days as president is not essential. It's good for him to have it, but he shouldn't expect the networks to pay for it.



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User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2632 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
He is actually going to discuss his first 100 days in office. No "crisis". Sorry.

I think the record speaks of Obama announcing one crisis after another the first 100 days.

Maybe a self-gloss announcement.  duck 


Right now I just seem to be suffering from "Crisis Fatigue"


Okie


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2615 times:



Quoting Okie (Reply 6):
I think the record speaks of Obama announcing one crisis after another the first 100 days.

What crisis are you talking about? I don't recall "one crisis after another" these first hundred days. We've been dealing with economic meltdown since before the election; there is no "crisis" on anthing else at the moment. There are POTENTIAL crisis with the DRPK, and with the Swine Flu. But I think you're being a little over-dramatic here.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2571 times:



Quoting Okie (Reply 6):
Right now I just seem to be suffering from "Crisis Fatigue"

The rest of us suffered the same thing after 2001 when everything from the Bush White House was terror, terrorist, or terrorism related. Terror alerts, suspicious packages, suspicious white substances, al-Qaida, Taliban.... At least now, there are reasons for making announcements, unfortunatly. North Korea has launched a missile and orders inspectors out; swine flu; market crash. Instead of jumping to death, distruction and terror, the Obama White House seems to be acknowledging these things and doing what they think is right to stay on top of the situations.



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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5511 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 2555 times:

Question: has this ever happened before?

User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8792 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 2537 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
it is unconscionable to me that any network would not carry an address by the President. You imagine the outrage from the right had CBS, NBC or ABC done this to President Bush?



Quoting Continental (Reply 9):
Question: has this ever happened before?

Yes. I recall all the TV networks refusing to carry President Bush's speeches on a couple of occasions. Here's one example:

http://origin.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120805,00.html



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User currently offlineDtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 2501 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
He is actually going to discuss his first 100 days in office. No "crisis". Sorry.

That ought to take all of about 2 seconds. Why doesn't he just start doing infomercials


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2458 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
He is actually going to discuss his first 100 days in office. No "crisis". Sorry.

Well starting right after he got elected he has just carried his podium with him, probably even in the bathroom. The guy loves to drone on with that teleprompter. I mean it's getting out of hand. Next you are going to want FOX to carry the presidential dog taking a crap. Enough already.

Quoting Dtw9 (Reply 11):
That ought to take all of about 2 seconds. Why doesn't he just start doing infomercials

Yea he can start selling the slap chop.


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6304 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

There have been several times that Fox was carrying Bush speeches that CNN and MSNBC did not have on, yet there was no story about that. Then again, any chance the news channels can get to broadcast Obama...

User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Frankly, there are an awful lot of Americans who really have no interest in seeing this guy pat himself on the back after his miserable job performance these first hundred days.

He's already done about 3-4 press conferences and it hasn't even been 100 days yet. He should spend a little less time reading from his teleprompter and a little more time balancing the budget and filling unfilled cabinet appointments (like all the unfilled positions in the Health and Human Serivces department).

Can't say I'm surprised. Again, the guy has never run a damn thing in his life before. That didn't stop us from electing him CEO of the free world. What an embarrassment.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

If the networks don't want to show the President's speech, it's their problem. They can't be forced to show it, can they? In this case, despite being Fox, I'm going to side with them. I mean, isn't that what news networks are for?

In Germany, we have public channels for that, and usually, it's only one of them showing an address to the nation by either the President or the Chancellor. Nobody complains about that. So let's not complain about why Fox isn't showing an Obama speech. If Fox doesn't want to show it on its terrestrial networks, so be it.


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21415 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

I don't see the big deal either, as long as people have access to the press conference on other channels if they want.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Well starting right after he got elected he has just carried his podium with him, probably even in the bathroom.

A new president in a severe crisis explaining his goals and policies to the nation while working to resolve the difficulties – isn't that just proper and to be expected?

I would see a much bigger problem if he holed up in some undisclosed location without a peep, giving the appearance of letting the administration drift rudderless...

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
The guy loves to drone on with that teleprompter.

And how, exactly, would a teleprompter help him in the extensive Q&A sections in his frequent press conferences?

Bush kept these to an absolute minimum of tame and pre-chewed questions with clearly prefabricated answers. Obama's press conferences are a rather different deal.

You should try actually watching one these days. It seems there's one coming up soon...!


User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2341 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 16):
Bush kept these to an absolute minimum of tame and pre-chewed questions with clearly prefabricated answers. Obama's press conferences are a rather different deal.

You should try actually watching one these days. It seems there's one coming up soon...!

Actually, it's become pretty clear, from day one of the campaign it ran, that this is an administration that is primarily concerned with its own IMAGE, rather than its own RESULTS.

Witness the cult of personality it built around itself during the campaign, the constant press conferences, the selling of its stimulus package in front of Caterpillar employees by saying its passage would save Caterpillar jobs even though it directly contradicted the CEO's comments on the same day stating the layoffs would still occur, and the belief that cutting $100 million over several years from the budget during a period of multi trillion dollar deficits was a generous sop to the Tea Party Protesters and would shut them up.

I really have zero interest in playing along with the charade. This fly by photo shoot horrifies me in so many ways. It really is a symptom of a larger problem. An administration not qualified for the job it is in. And we can't fire it until 2012. Scary.


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21415 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2326 times:



Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 17):
Actually, it's become pretty clear, from day one of the campaign it ran, that this is an administration that is primarily concerned with its own IMAGE, rather than its own RESULTS.

I see. So the aggressive schedule Obama has been moving along at has been surpassed by which previous presidents by comparison? Just asking...!  eyebrow 

I see a whole lot of seething envy on the US right for the positive reaction of the american and worldwide public to Obama, but even in this short period and with an opposition which has dug in its heels in a destructive and near-universal NO! to everything the new leadership is trying to move forwards, Obama has been quite active and successful on the policy side as well.

Now imagine his policies resulting in success – will you bring yourself to actually acknowledging that?

Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 17):
and the belief that cutting $100 million over several years from the budget during a period of multi trillion dollar deficits was a generous sop to the Tea Party Protesters and would shut them up.

The small gaggle of "teabaggers" (ouch!) after all the massive push by FOX "News" and others on the right was a real disappointment in numbers. Obama may be losing sleep over quite a few of the challenges on his table, but "teabaggers" are closer to the bottom of that list than to the top...!

You should also note that the bailout has still been started by the Bush administration already (if rather shoddily), so its necessity is not really good for partisan bickering.

Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 17):
I really have zero interest in playing along with the charade. This fly by photo shoot horrifies me in so many ways. It really is a symptom of a larger problem. An administration not qualified for the job it is in. And we can't fire it until 2012. Scary.

You're eight years too late. Where have you been with that insight all these years?


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6304 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2196 times:



Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 14):
Frankly, there are an awful lot of Americans who really have no interest in seeing this guy pat himself on the back after his miserable job performance these first hundred days.

 yes 

Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 14):
ike all the unfilled positions in the Health and Human Serivces department

Well, Kathy should be confirmed today. Hopefully...I'm ready for her to not be my Governor anymore  Smile


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11214 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2124 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 18):
Now imagine his policies resulting in success – will you bring yourself to actually acknowledging that?

No, never. They will never acknowledge success. Ever! Because that would be an admission that a damn liberal did something right, and as we all know, damn liberals are freakin' morons (as are the people that voted for them). Especially the northeast liberal elitist damn liberal who goes to Harvard - most moronic of them all.

I think some of the posters here need a different hobby than throwing spitballs at Obama. Clearly with Obama's approval polling in the stratosphere, the American public has decided that they'd rather side with Obama than the teabaggers.



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User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5083 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

No surprise here, this is after all FOX!


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User currently offlineMarSciGuy From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2116 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 19):
Quoting FreequentFlier (Reply 14):
ike all the unfilled positions in the Health and Human Serivces department

Well, Kathy should be confirmed today. Hopefully...I'm ready for her to not be my Governor anymore Smile

GOvernor of Namibia?  Wink  duck 



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8792 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2104 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
No, never. They will never acknowledge success.

If you can show me some examples of success, perhaps. So far they have been few and far between. The only one I can think of was a successful rescue from the pirates, and that was more because of sharp skills and nerve of our military men and women than Obama. Otherwise what success has he had?

On the other hand he has had numerous failures (or to put it kindly, a marked lack of success). His administration's irresponsible comments on making huge tax and other changes without any specifics have succeeded in largely freezing business and personal investment decisions.

Iran and N. Korea are laughing in his face with impunity. Chavez gives him a book on the benefits of socialism. Pakistan is about to give the Taliban a shot at being a nuclear power.

We are pouring billions into the auto companies, and will not get anything out of it that would not have happened without those funds, apart from perhaps higher union wages.

And finally he has eliminated the effectiveness of any sort of interrogation by divulging details of how we do it. Now terrorists (and foreign agents of all stripes) will be trained to know that, no matter how unpleasant and shocking an interrogation might be, American interrogators would never go so far as to actually injure them - even during the period when "torture" was used. They just need to keep their mouth shut, and after a few months or years the ACLU will see to their release, possibly even within the US.

So you tell me, where is the success? Why should we be happy about this?



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2088 times:



Quoting JAL (Reply 21):
No surprise here, this is after all FOX!

This is typical of Republicans: Do as I say, not as I do. They hate homosexuals, yet they get caught with gays in all kinds of compromising positions all the time. They advocate one man/one woman, but when one of them has an affair, they can not figure out what the big deal is. They advocate abstinace only education, but when their kids get pregnant, they say everything is fine because their kids are keeping it instead of aborting. And now, "fair and balaced" FOX is not showing a news conference from the Democratic president after 8 years of news conferences from a Republican president. But, everyone on the right will defend "fair and balanced" as correct. Really? Is this being "fair and balanced?"



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25 MaverickM11 : Doesn't he have one just about every day? Or does it just feel like that? Or hearing another buggery speech about nothing...
26 AGM100 : Hey they are the ones beating up on everyone in the ratings ... maybe they are on to something. Curious , was this the speech where the President res
27 Windy95 : And has he not been appointing alot of Czars. Maybe we need a swine flu Czar and another speech to appoint him/her
28 Mt99 : Finally a good idea! I Wonder what Michael ("Good job, Brownie") Brown is up to these days..
29 SW733 : Haha. No, no. I am currently living in Kansas for the time being, working at a to-be-unnamed aerospace engineering company...
30 Post contains links CALTECH : Yes, let us imagine,.... http://www.drudgereport.com/flashrrt.htm 'The three major networks declined to carry Reagan's Oval Office speech last night
31 MaverickM11 : And czars are the epitome of historical democratic, liberal thinking
32 Fxramper : The show is among the network's most popular and draws an average of 13 million viewers a week. That compares to the relatively paltry 4.2 million who
33 Post contains images Galapagapop : It's all about money. Hell Fox did the exact same thing to Bush in 2001. Why is it so hard for some to understand that everything Fox does isn't some
34 Klaus : Well, guess!
35 Tugger : It never really has been an issue, whoever has been the president. As noted by others, at various times all the networks have declined to carry a pre
36 AGM100 : Geez ... bitter much. So lets just say FOX is ran and operated only for republicans by republicans . What is the problem ? Why do you care ? Fox cabl
37 Flanker : I don't blame Fox. If anything, their ratings will drop covering something that all the other stations are. Its their money and time, they can do as t
38 Seb146 : Why? Double standard. Read my post again. It is typical of Republicans in power. As opposed to those Republican followers that have antennas. The one
39 Post contains images FreequentFlier : I have a graduate degree so please spare me the anti-intellectual nonsense. Show me some success and I'll be happy to acknowledge it. So what are you
40 NW747400 : If Obama solves a problem great I'll give him credit for it, not a problem. I never give all the credit or blame to one party. I disagreed with Georg
41 AGM100 : Who cares ... we will always have blind followers in both parties . And yes there are some who no doubt have the rabbit ears with the alum foil / Sch
42 D L X : Dude, I have $350 more in my pocket every month because of Obama's policy changes. Every month! Now, that's a whole lot of change I can believe in! T
43 NW747400 : That's cool except for the fact that we're spending money we don't have. Money does not grow on trees. That 350 dollars a week your getting is going
44 Seb146 : No. The "teabaggers" are actually BEHIND the curve. For years and years, people on the left were screaming and crying and carrying on about how much
45 NW747400 : I never said I agreed with Bush's economic policies. In fact if you read my post carefully I expressed by disdain over his bailout plan. The main spe
46 D L X : Actually, it's 350 dollars a month that isn't going to a bank that would have if not for Obama's mortgage policy change. It's not coming out of the t
47 CALTECH : Bushie doubled the debt in 8 years, Obama doubled that in less than 100 days.
48 QANTAS077 : you should be, its always interesting to watch how that disgrace of an Australian Murdoch conducts his business, I recall some months before the 2008
49 D L X : An extremely simplistic view of the stimulus. Arguably, these are losses from over the last 8 years that were simply not realized until now because t
50 Klaus : Not really. He just moved the steaming pile from behind the sofa onto the dinner table for everyone to have a good look at what's been festering for
51 NW747400 : Isn't that an overly simplistic view? Spending money is spending money. He did not have to spend it but he did. You can say all you want that it is g
52 D L X : That's certainly arguable, i'll agree. I happen to believe that spending in this situation was appropriate, even if you have to borrow. It's like whe
53 D L X : What is your alternative?
54 Klaus : And lending money is lending money. As in a significant part of the bailout funds being credits expected to be paid back – with interest. And inves
55 NW747400 : Cut spending. If they keep spending, especially at the current rate they are going to have to raise taxes and soon. Raising taxes during a recession
56 NIKV69 : Oh you mean the ones where he takes the fluff questions and drags out every answer for 10 mins so he can exit without taking tough questions?
57 D L X : Cutting spending in a recession tends to exacerbate a recession. Good thing no one's raising taxes. I tend to agree, but that does cut both ways, as
58 RayChuang : Fox did this move because the Fox News Channel is more than an adequate substitute--after all, FNC is the #1 rated cable news network by a long, long
59 Klaus : "Fluff" questions? His apparent ease in responding to questions seems to be deceptive to some. So far I have watched him doing a pretty good job expl
60 NW747400 : That's not been my experience. My Honda has preformed much better than any other American car that I have had experience with. Agreed. Note I said if
61 LTBEWR : Fox's News Channel will be carrying it. Most who are interested will have access to cable or the other broadcast networks carrying it. Fox doesn't hav
62 FreequentFlier : You clearly are not paying attention to the Tea Parties if you sincerely believe this. Some of the loudest applause lines were when speakers complain
63 Mt99 : hmm do you have a source for this?
64 JFKMan : Im happy Fox are not showing it. I won't be watching it. I am getting sick and tired of Obama and his ''News Confrences". Fox never had to deny Bush b
65 Falcon84 : He's held ONE. How can you be getting sick and tired of his news conferences if he's held O N E. That's just plain ignorant, my friend. Mr. Bush held
66 EMBQA : WRONG..... it's his THIRD......... Feb 5th Mar 24th Apr 29th So let get back to the OP.... Yes, Fox is not covering it.. but so what...?? A&E, Lifeti
67 Falcon84 : Forgive me! I was going without notes! And I disagree with them not showing those, either. I just think the presidency deserves better than that from
68 EMBQA : Ooh I'm 100% with you there. It's scary just how stupid Americans have become about what is going on in this country...
69 Post contains links AustinAirport : I absolutely cant stand Fox news. youtube. moron bill oreilly. There's one reason. The other. Its so blatantly obvious that number one they hate Obama
70 EMBQA : FoxNews IS COVERING IT...!!!!! CNN Headline News is not covering it....Where is your outrage there....????[Edited 2009-04-29 17:26:01]
71 Falcon84 : We need to get AustinAirport and JFKman to get into a teenage brawl on here. I think it would be entertaining.
72 AustinAirport : what? im watching his speech this very second..... on CNN.. LOL. Fox News is really concered bout that Swine Flu....
73 EMBQA : Not on CNN Headline News you're not.... Nancy Grace is on...... the Prez is on CNN...[Edited 2009-04-29 17:44:28]
74 Seb146 : This is the same tired line I have been hearing since November. Everyone else are still waiting for the WMDs and the solid evidence Saddam was going
75 D L X : Not at all. I was in a very good mortgage that just got better.
76 Ken777 : No TelePrompTer on this one. The President stood for an hour and seemed to be answering questions rather intelligently. I certainly appreciated his co
77 NW747400 : Straw men aside do you care to actually answer the question?
78 Post contains links AGM100 : I watched it on FOXC ... I guess he did well . He is good in this format , not much detail just able to sell anything and is very disarming . Usually
79 Vanguard737 : I really find it interesting how people (the left) bash Fox News for being 'unprofessional'. The reality is the left loathes them for offering news fr
80 Klaus : His frequent and lengthy Q&A sessions during his press conferences clearly contradict that. He's as eloquent without a script as he is with one. Bush
81 Vanguard737 : Not quite sure who "you guys" refers to...I laud Bush no more than I dislike Obama. Yes, he can handle the media - somewhat - which shouldn't be too
82 Post contains links Klaus : "You guys" being the group who keep parroting the weird idea that Obama was totally dependent on the teleprompter even though it is obviously false,
83 Itsjustme : It just feels like that because the last administration was so secretive, we rarely knew what they were up to. And, come to find out, what with all t
84 EMBQA : Correct and this thread is the very proof....It was started over the outrage that Fox was not covering the President News Conference... but NOTHING w
85 Seb146 : Speaking strictly for myself: I take exception with FOX for saying they are "fair and balanced" when they are conservative supporters. If they want t
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