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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11809 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

We may possibly be going to Los Angeles in two weeks. I don't think so, but that is not the point of this post. *IF* we do go and decide to go to Ensenada, would that be safe as far as swine flu? I have heard Ensenada is safer than Tijuana as far as gangs, but I am just wondering how that part of Mexico is coping with swine flu.


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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

i don't think you should worry.

Follow all normal health issues while traveling and wash your hands regularly. If you do start to feel sick, go seek medical attention. Remember there are more than a 100 million people living in mexico that don't have swine flu.


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 799 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1528 times:

You're as likely to catch swine flu in LA as you are likely to catch it in Baja California. LA probably has more people arriving every day from Mexico City than Tijuana does.

Tijuana doesn't really offer much for tourists but Ensenada is cute, and the drive will certainly be nice. Restaurants in Tijuana are a lot better though  Wink although most are off the beaten tourist tracks.


User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3647 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1516 times:

The swine flu is a complete non issue for the average joe.

You're much more likely getting hurt by drug gangs, car jacking and everyday crime while there. The swine flu should be the last thing on your mind.


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1471 times:

When my wife and I were on vacation in SAT last September, we drove to Laredo, parked in a lot near one of the Rio Grande bridges, and walked over to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. We'd never been to Mexico before and just wanted to see what it was like.

We spent maybe a half-hour in Nuevo Laredo. That was more than enough time, thank you very much. My desire to return to Mexico is somewhat less than zero.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11809 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1461 times:



Quoting SR117 (Reply 2):
Tijuana doesn't really offer much for tourists but Ensenada is cute,

That's what I was thinking: Even though it is touristy, from what I have been told, it is more Mexico than Tijuana.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 2):
You're as likely to catch swine flu in LA as you are likely to catch it in Baja California.



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 1):
Remember there are more than a 100 million people living in mexico that don't have swine flu.

That's what I was thinking. With more people crammed together in LA, I would think it would be easier to spread it there than in a village in Baja. I read a letter to the editor in our newspaper today that reminded us that 1/9,000,000th of the population acutally has it.

I am not so much worried about gangs as I speak enough Spanish to keep us out of situations. It worked for me in San Diego.



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

If you only have a one day trip then go to Ensenada, Tijuana is more of a business type tourism so Ensenada is a safer bet, take the MEX 1 route aka scenic route once you drive from the US in to Mexico, be sure to have valid insurance for Mexico when driving over as IT WILL save you headaches in case you needed it, you can purchase insurance right after you drive in to the country but I have never used that service so I don't know what to recommend. If you are goint to rent a car be sure to cover the details with your rental agency as most DO NOT let you take the rental car in to Mexico.

If you get stopped by Mexico's finest you can politely ask for a ticket, I believe you can still mail in payment once you get back to the US.

The drive from TIJ to ENS is a very nice one, be sure to stop at the scenic point once you are on the toll road abd take some pictures, once in Ensenada be sure to walk the main street and the pier area (you will see a huge flag there)...do not miss the chance of going to Valle de Guadalupe (wine country), take some tours and wine tasting...the most popular ones are...

LA Cetto: Touristy and overdone
Chateu Camou: By appointment only, I think
Casa de Piedra: Expensive but good
Baron Balche: Not as expensive and good
Monte Xanic: Used to be THE best wine a few years ago but others have cought on

In Ensenada I can recommend the Mahi Mahi restaurant, basically is where the locals go to eat and is less touristy.

Any questions let me know.

Marco



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

i forgot.....this is the website for the Secretary of Tourism of Baja California...it is full of information to get you started....

http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/



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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1787 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1357 times:



Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
When my wife and I were on vacation in SAT last September, we drove to Laredo, parked in a lot near one of the Rio Grande bridges, and walked over to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.

That's like judging the entire US by crossing from Canada to the toughest neigborhoods in Detroit.


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1350 times:



Quoting AM744 (Reply 8):
That's like judging the entire US by crossing from Canada to the toughest neigborhoods in Detroit.

Or judging the entire US population on the behaviour of their "spingbreakers" we get every year over here....but back to topic.



Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineMham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3731 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

I wouldn't even worry about the gangs in Tijuana, they're killing themselves and don't care about tourists. I'd be more worried about getting held up on the highway, but thats just me...

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1328 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Thread starter):
We may possibly be going to Los Angeles in two weeks. I don't think so, but that is not the point of this post. *IF* we do go and decide to go to Ensenada, would that be safe as far as swine flu? I have heard Ensenada is safer than Tijuana as far as gangs, but I am just wondering how that part of Mexico is coping with swine flu.


Looking that stats recently I came to the conclusion that some parts of the US offers more a threat that Mexico in terms of the swine flu. Drastic measures have been taken in cities like Mexico City etc, and this has curtailed the effects of the flu, so really now just be mindful, do what you do to protect yourself against the flu normally, and you would be fine.

Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 1):
100 million people living in mexico

Exactly, with 29 confirmed deaths. Probably less than what a normal flu season would cause.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11809 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1327 times:



Quoting AM744 (Reply 8):
That's like judging the entire US by crossing from Canada to the toughest neigborhoods in Detroit.

Or crossing into YVR and hanging out in Chinatown and Gastown.

I think it is sad that, when I go, I act like a guest. It is not my home, it is not my country, they have different rules, regulations, and customs, but I am treated like any American. Not all of us are rude. But, a big thank you to those of you who realize this.

It sounds like we may spend a few days in Ensenada. It sounds wonderful!



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6236 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Don't judge Mexico by the border towns, I myself have been to Tijuana and Nogales, neither of them are really my cup of tea. However, I have also been to Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta and I thorught they were both beautiful, and Guadalajara was very historic. I am dying to go to El DF, however, flights from Phoenix are usually full but I'll make it one day.
I didn't mention CUN as Im not reallya beach resort type of person.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11809 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1220 times:



Quoting Chepos (Reply 13):
Don't judge Mexico by the border towns

Exactly why we wanted to speed right through and go to Ensenada. But, we realized, between my original post and this one, that it will be Memorial Day weekend. No, neither of us looked at a calender when planning all this. Also, all those fires near SBA cuts out some things we wanted to do there, too. We are leaving PDX earlier than planned and will try to return that weekend. So, Mexico is out this time around, but thanks to you all for great information!



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1211 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
We'd never been to Mexico before and just wanted to see what it was like.

I hate to break it to you, but just hopping across the fence for a few minutes still does not count as being in Mexico.

Quoting PROSA (Reply 4):
That was more than enough time, thank you very much. My desire to return to Mexico is somewhat less than zero.

*Sigh*     

Admittedly many of the Mexican border cities aren't the prettiest places in the world, but as others mentioned above, you can't judge the whole country just because of a few rotten areas, every country has them, including the US (and maybe even more so).

That being said, definitely check out Ensenada. Seafood is great from what I've heard and the coastal highway is very scenic.

Oh and one more thing, here's a good rule of thumb: if you want the REAL Mexican culinary experience, avoid the tourist traps (like Señor Frogs, etc). Find yourself a locally run and family owned restaurant, a busy hole in the wall type place, or heck, just find the busiest taco stand. I've set foot on, and know pretty well, 28 out of the 31 states in Mexico. Using this rule of thumb I've discovered many amazing places I always keep going back to. you won't be disappointed.  yes 

[Edited 2009-05-09 09:13:57]

User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11809 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1153 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 15):
avoid the tourist traps

YVR is my only "international" destination. I have never been outside the United States, except there. But, when I am there, if I ever see Americans (believe me, even in Canada, they are easy to spot!) I RUN the other way. I found a great Greek restaurant in Surry near SkyTrain and even a Church's Chicken in North Vancouver! That is the way I travel: If I see a herd of tourists, go up two blocks and take a right.



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineDc9northwest From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1110 times:

No offense to our Mexican members, but swine flu is the last thing to worry about in Mexico--at least at the current time (or anywhere else, for that matter).

So don't worry, and enjoy yourself wherever you decide to go in Mexico  Smile


User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1846 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1075 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 12):
I think it is sad that, when I go, I act like a guest. It is not my home, it is not my country, they have different rules, regulations, and customs, but I am treated like any American. Not all of us are rude. But, a big thank you to those of you who realize this.

I apologize for people who treat you poorly here just because you're an American. I believe we should treat all tourists with the highest respect and courtesy. However, do you use American or Canadian money when you come here? If there's one thing that DOES annoy me about American tourists, it's when they use American money (and openly scoff/laugh at our money).

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
YVR is my only "international" destination. I have never been outside the United States, except there. But, when I am there, if I ever see Americans (believe me, even in Canada, they are easy to spot!) I RUN the other way. I found a great Greek restaurant in Surry near SkyTrain and even a Church's Chicken in North Vancouver! That is the way I travel: If I see a herd of tourists, go up two blocks and take a right.

That's awesome! Not sure why you'd go to Vancouver and hang out in Surrey... but whatever!  duck 


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