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Student To Be Suspended For Going To Prom...  
User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

This is strange... A student at a private Christian High School in Ohio expects to be suspended for attending the Prom of a public high school with his girlfriend. It turns out that the Christian high school "forbids dancing, rock music and hand holding"...

Personally, I don't remember hearing about the Taliban running a school in Ohio...  Yeah sure

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_re_us/us_school_dance_flap


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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

Cool. It's just like "Footloose". How romantic!!

I hope he made it worth is while and copped a feel as well.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
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by the sounds of things it could be the best thing to ever happen to him - maybe his parents will come to their senses and send him to a normal school now that this one has shown how utterly crackpot it is


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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3419 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4208 times:
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They must have a Saudi clergy running the school.  duck 


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8663 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

I hope the step dad sues as he has a good chance of winning. To be frank, this is the first time i've heard of beliefs like this at a christian school.

KH



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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6688 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4161 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
To be frank, this is the first time i've heard of beliefs like this at a christian school.

Beliefs, rules or opinion?

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...07DQKHA.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

The handbook for the 84-student Christian school says rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."

I expect this was being written in the mainstream in the 1950's when the youth of America was being presented with the "dangerous" music stars and music of the day.

Anyway, what is better from a religious and personal standpoint? To be faced by such demons and have the moral standing to do the right thing or to be banned from ever contacting such dangers and never really know what all the fuss is about? Seems to be one of the problems of the world... to be bullshitted into a set of beliefs or a certain mentality without really knowing or experiencing the reality. Look at N Korea and its captive and brainwashed population.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

The problem is that the school where the prom took place required persons attending who are non-students of it to get a permission slip signed by the school they attend. I am not sure why the prom hosting school has this requirement, to me set rules and any such permission to come from a parent if the non-school attendee is less than 18 years old, and strict age limits of not more than 19 years old should be sufficient.
As to the rules the private-religious school the young man attended, there is no doubt they are foolish. I would rather see rules like requiring time spent helping the community, not trying to control the private lives of students. I wonder if they teach Creationism and have other extreme religious biases in thier educational agenda that will hurt the future chances and ability to intergrate into real life when they leave.


User currently offlineIH8BY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4128 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
I hope the step dad sues as he has a good chance of winning.

Does he, though? If the school explicitly states (is this the case?) that it does not tolerate such behaviour, then presumably this would be, within those parameters, an appropriate sanction to take for a contravention of the school rules... in addition, he was warned about the possible consequences. I don't know how much freedom private schools in the US have to decide on curriculum and rules; I don't think this could happen in the UK, but somehow I see US private schools as being less regulated.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8663 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4087 times:



Quoting IH8BY (Reply 7):

I agree with you on the fact that private schools should be less regulated. However, I do not understand what does it concern the school what the scholar does on his personal time. If it were a other christian school function, then yes I would understand. However, this is his personal time and my guess is that the father is suing for invasion of privacy.

KH



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User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3923 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
I hope the step dad sues as he has a good chance of winning. To be frank, this is the first time i've heard of beliefs like this at a christian school.

If the school had a code of conduct that spelled out the consequences of violating said code and the code of conduct was known to the parents at the time of enrollment there may not be many legal options open to the parents.

Strict conduct codes of this type are not at all uncommon in fringe religious sects. I have heard of so many examples of situations of this kind that I am no longer at all surprised to hear of additional events. Reports of draconian rules of a similar ilk are in the news quite often.

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3885 times:



Quoting Ihadapheo (Reply 9):
If the school had a code of conduct that spelled out the consequences of violating said code and the code of conduct was known to the parents at the time of enrollment there may not be many legal options open to the parents

It does not matter. This kid was attending prom OUTSIDE of school hours at a different school. This is this kid's personal time. He can do whatever he choses to do outside these hours. I'm pretty sure that this kid's parents would agree with me, and so would the courts.

The school that this kid attends to cannot dictate what the kid can and cannot do outside the normal school hours off of school grounds, period. It is ridiculous and illegal.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19408 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3867 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 10):

It does not matter. This kid was attending prom OUTSIDE of school hours at a different school. This is this kid's personal time. He can do whatever he choses to do outside these hours.

No he can't. Here's why: It's a PRIVATE school. It's not a public school. So when he enrolled in that school, both he and his parents agreed to the school's rules. If the school's rules included behaviors that were prohibited even off of school property and outside of school hours, they agreed to them. They broke those rules and the school is 100% within its rights to suspend or terminate the student for the violation.

I agree with everyone here that this rule is unreasonable and that this suspension is probably the best thing to ever happen to this young man. He just learned that religion to this degree is intolerant, rigid, prideful, and merciless. It is the precise opposite of what Christianity is meant to be.

My hope is that public backlash against such a rule will cause parents to withdraw their kids from the school, forcing the school to change its rules. However, nobody passed a law forcing this family to send this kid to this school. So they voluntarily agreed to these rules, no matter how absurd.


User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

I have to disagree, if they knowingly agreed to the rules of the school before attending the school they should not be shocked when violating the agreed upon rules results in action being taken.

There are fraternal organizations that require one to obey a code of conduct that limits activities that even though they may occur outside of the organization are deemed to be detrimental to organization.

Whilst not exactly the same situation but people have been excommunicated for simply expressing thoughts or taking part in activities that 100% legal. The fact that this was done by a private school that is run by religious organization may change what is allowed.

I find the schools action to be draconian to say the least however if the parents were made aware of this exact limitation I feel they should not have a judgment in their favor. HOWEVER if this limitation on prom attendance was NOT know to them I do feel that they should prevail in any legal procedings

Sorry if I was not clear in my earlier post...



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User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3812 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
by the sounds of things it could be the best thing to ever happen to him - maybe his parents will come to their senses and send him to a normal school now that this one has shown how utterly crackpot it is

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Quoting IH8BY (Reply 7):
Does he, though? If the school explicitly states (is this the case?) that it does not tolerate such behaviour, then presumably this would be, within those parameters, an appropriate sanction to take for a contravention of the school rules... in addition, he was warned about the possible consequences.



Quoting Ihadapheo (Reply 9):
If the school had a code of conduct that spelled out the consequences of violating said code and the code of conduct was known to the parents at the time of enrollment there may not be many legal options open to the parents.



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 10):
It does not matter. This kid was attending prom OUTSIDE of school hours at a different school.

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A school's code of conduct can only regulate behavior on the school's premises. I hope that the father does in fact sue. Not sure if there is any precedent on this issue, but I would be highly surprised if the school, whether private or public, can legally punish a student for things done outside of school property and outside of school hours.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3711 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11):
Here's why: It's a PRIVATE school. It's not a public school. So when he enrolled in that school, both he and his parents agreed to the school's rules. If the school's rules included behaviors that were prohibited even off of school property and outside of school hours, they agreed to them. They broke those rules and the school is 100% within its rights to suspend or terminate the student for the violation.

I'm pretty sure a court of law would fully disagree with you. The school's view and punishment is that It is illegal! The kid is free to do whatever he wishes outside of the school's hours and off their property. The last time I checked, this is the United States of America; not North Korea or China.....

Also, we don't even know what the exact rules are for this school. Maybe someone in Findlay, Ohio can fill us in on this exact rule.

Quoting Cba (Reply 13):
A school's code of conduct can only regulate behavior on the school's premises

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Quoting Cba (Reply 13):
Not sure if there is any precedent on this issue, but I would be highly surprised if the school, whether private or public, can legally punish a student for things done outside of school property and outside of school hours.

They can't since, like you and I said, this occurred outside of school hours and not even on their own premises.



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3695 times:

I found this letter from the school on their website
http://www.heritagefindlay.org/

Quote:
First, the article in the Courier is fairly accurate. What the article leaves out are the principles behind the rules. In the Old Testament, Joseph was in a place of temptation and he fled. Unlike this situation, he didn’t put himself in that place. Proverbs 4:23 says, “Keep your heart with all diligence for out of it are the issues of life.” II Timothy 2:22 says, “Flee also youthful lusts but follow after righteousness faith charity and peace with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.” When the school committee, many years before I became the principal, set up the policy regarding dancing, I am confident that they had the principle of fleeing lustful situations in mind. The question as I see it is, should a Christian place themselves at an event where young ladies will have low cut dresses and be dancing in them? Isn’t it contrary to the example of Joseph and the verses that I stated? Second, at the beginning of the school year, every family must sign a statement of cooperation. Students in 7th through 12th grades must also sign it. It doesn’t say that you have to agree with them, but that we will all abide by them. What kind of a school would we be if we suspended a policy because it was convenient to do so? That would not be a Christ-like response. Jesus did not avoid trouble. He made statements such as, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me” (John 14:6). His statements didn’t make Him popular with the world. Can we expect anything else? The verses that I have thought of throughout this day are Matthew 5:11-12, “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.” Wow! I can build up a whole lot of rewards in heaven today, and so can you.

Third, when discussing this particular issue with folks in the community please remember that the servant of the Lord "must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness" (2 Tim 2:24, 25).

Esther received great counsel from her uncle Mordecai when he said, “And who knoweth whether thou art come into the kingdom for such a time as this.” (Esther 4:14). This is a time for Heritage to shine as a light in this world. It isn’t easy, but it is right.




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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3690 times:



Quoting Oly720man (Reply 5):
I expect this was being written in the mainstream in the 1950's when the youth of America was being presented with the "dangerous" music stars and music of the day.

And Elvis Presley was a "heathen"...  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2755 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3686 times:
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Quoting FRAspotter (Thread starter):
It turns out that the Christian high school "forbids dancing, rock music and hand holding"...

Thats weird. I currently attend a Catholic school and trust me we could rival public schools in our area in all those areas. That may not sound too bad but we have the worst High Schools in the sate of Connecticut.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 10):
This kid was attending prom OUTSIDE of school hours at a different school. This is this kid's personal time. He can do whatever he choses to do outside these hours

I agree with you but even in my school's handbook/Code of conduct it states that if we get arrested/ introuble with the police minus tickets of course it is an automatic expulsion. Another Catholic school (that is not quite as strict) in the area just sudpended 20-30 kids because they were caught at a party drinking underage by the police.
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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3665 times:



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 17):
....but even in my school's handbook/Code of conduct it states that if we get arrested/ introuble with the police minus tickets of course it is an automatic expulsion. Another Catholic school (that is not quite as strict) in the area just sudpended 20-30 kids because they were caught at a party drinking underage by the police.

This, I can agree with....sorta...this is for a different thread. But then again, this kid didn't get arrested. He went to a perfecly legal prom....and it was supervised, I suspect. What this private school has up its butt is beyond me.

What did this kid do to the school that ticked them off in the first place?!

Now, if this does eventually end up in a court of law (my gut tells me that the school will go after this kid and it will end up in a court of law...), you can bet your bottom dollar that the courts will open up this kid's personal school record and will look at the grades, attendance, behavior, etc etc. If the records do show this is a model student with no problems, then the courts will grill the school and find out why they went after this guy. The school better have a better defense other than the policy that FRAspotter posted in reply 15 because I highly doubt the courts would buy into that BS. They better have a very, very, very good reason for this!

Graduation is a huge part of the educational process, which makes the student feel proud that he/she did something great in a positive way....boosts confidence and morale.

With that in mind..... By Federal Law, no school...be it private nor public, is allowed to block the right to an education. In my viewpoint, this school is violating that law. A huge no-no!

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 15):
Quote:
First, the article in the Courier is fairly accurate. What the article leaves out are the principles behind the rules. In the Old Testament, Joseph was in a place of temptation and he fled. Unlike this situation, he didn’t put himself in that place. Proverbs 4:23 says, “Keep your heart with all diligence for out of it are the issues of life.” II Timothy 2:22 says, “Flee also youthful lusts but follow after righteousness faith charity and peace with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.” When the school committee, many years before I became the principal, set up the policy regarding dancing, I am confident that they had the principle of fleeing lustful situations in mind. The question as I see it is, should a Christian place themselves at an event where young ladies will have low cut dresses and be dancing in them? Isn’t it contrary to the example of Joseph and the verses that I stated? Second, at the beginning of the school year, every family must sign a statement of cooperation. Students in 7th through 12th grades must also sign it. It doesn’t say that you have to agree with them, but that we will all abide by them. What kind of a school would we be if we suspended a policy because it was convenient to do so? That would not be a Christ-like response. Jesus did not avoid trouble. He made statements such as, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me” (John 14:6). His statements didn’t make Him popular with the world. Can we expect anything else? The verses that I have thought of throughout this day are Matthew 5:11-12, “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.” Wow! I can build up a whole lot of rewards in heaven today, and so can you.

Third, when discussing this particular issue with folks in the community please remember that the servant of the Lord "must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness" (2 Tim 2:24, 25).

Esther received great counsel from her uncle Mordecai when he said, “And who knoweth whether thou art come into the kingdom for such a time as this.” (Esther 4:14). This is a time for Heritage to shine as a light in this world. It isn’t easy, but it is right.

With all due respect.... but are these people really nuts?!  irked  (Not you, FRAspotter....)



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User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Here are my two cents...

I go to a private school near Boston, MA, and our school - just like most other private schools - hold us liable for what we do off school property. We're not supposed to drink, smoke weed, etc., and if the school finds pictures of us on facebook or hears about us doing anything that goes "against the code of conduct" we will get disciplined (detention, suspension, expulsion).

It doesn't really matter if one family disagrees with this principle; If I were to get in trouble and get kicked out, someone would take my place in a heartbeat (demand/competitive admissions process). In fact, stories about students going to a party, drinking, putting pictures up on facebook, and then getting kicked out are quite ubiquitous.

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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3638 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
With all due respect.... but are these people really nuts?! irked (Not you, FRAspotter....)

 Smile

This is what I was thinking when reading it... If you didn't know any better, most people who read this would think that this was written in the 1950's as mentioned in reply 5.

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 5):
I expect this was being written in the mainstream in the 1950's when the youth of America was being presented with the "dangerous" music stars and music of the day.




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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3630 times:



Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 19):

But again, this kid did not do any of that!

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 20):
This is what I was thinking when reading it... If you didn't know any better, most people who read this would think that this was written in the 1950's as mentioned in reply 5.

Seems to me that these people have been living in the past these days. Didn't they get the memo that it is now 2009?!  sarcastic 

Times have changed! And when times change, so do the rules to fit in with the times.



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3574 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14):
The school's view and punishment is that It is illegal!

No one's view is illegal. The students continues attendance at the school and the school's continuing to provide education can be viewed as two parts of a contract. This contract is between two private parties.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
By Federal Law, no school...be it private nor public, is allowed to block the right to an education. In my viewpoint, this school is violating that law. A huge no-no!

Sure they can. If the parents stop paying, the school can stop admitting him. If he sets the bathroom on fire, the school can suspend or expel him. There is no absolute right to education in the same way that there is a right to free speech. Students can even be expelled from public schools. It is a right that is contingent upon meeting certain standards.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
With all due respect.... but are these people really nuts?!

Like it or not, it is what they believe. They have chosen to set up a school for like minded families. It is not like they are beating the kids or locking them in sweatshops. They just have different educational priorities. If other parents disagree, they are free to send their kids elsewhere.



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3354 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3561 times:



Quoting FRAspotter (Thread starter):
Personally, I don't remember hearing about the Taliban running a school in Ohio... Yeah sure

Flame me if you must for making this statement but the mindset behind both fundamental Islam and Christianity is strikingly similar and just as insane.

The only difference is that fundamentalist Christians mostly live in regions where their beliefs are currently not tolerated as law, where as in Muslim Countries their religious beliefs are actually law. Everyone is the west should be very thankful for this.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8663 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3540 times:



Quoting Cba (Reply 13):

A school's code of conduct can only regulate behavior on the school's premises. I hope that the father does in fact sue. Not sure if there is any precedent on this issue, but I would be highly surprised if the school, whether private or public, can legally punish a student for things done outside of school property and outside of school hours.

I agree and think this guy has a chance. I will have to contact a friend who teaches at a private school and see what she says about this.

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25 Texan : No, he does not. They signed a contract to go to that school and abide by the contract. Courts give private schools a lot of leeway to determine what
26 AznMadSci : Yeah! I remember when Dia del Oso FINALLY allowed dancing on campus grounds in the 90s!!!!! To think my parents wanted me to go there and I ended up
27 NorthstarBoy : I would suspect it's to keep kids from rival schools from coming in as "invited guests" and causing trouble. Kids being kids, if you're thinking of g
28 Kiwiandrew : an excellent lesson for him to learn from a 'christian' school - though personally I think the real lesson is 'don't send your kids to schools run by
29 DocLightning : Yup. And in my job, if I were to be found having sex with one of my adult patients outside of the clinic and outside of work hours, guess what? That
30 L410Turbolet : They've got so many Bible quotes that whatever they were trying to say got "lost in translation"... Please forward your thanks to Martin Luther, Jan
31 AirframeAS : Your opinion, I respect that. Sounds like Nazi Germany. Oh, they'll be overruled. It really depends on the kid's school records. They are going to op
32 Steeler83 : To add on to FRAspotter's response: Oh, and I suppose Elvis Presley gave everyone herpees and/or the clap then While some on here agree with the scho
33 Lowrider : Fine. Don't go to that school or don't send your kids there. For those that want it and are able to pay for it, not letting them have it strikes me a
34 AirframeAS : I think you are missing Steeler83's point. The rules are inappropriate and teaches fear into kids, that is not right. It is almost like having Hitler
35 Lowrider : Why? Because you don't like them? That is the sort of reasoning a 12 year old would use. All this time I thought a consistent system of rules both in
36 AirframeAS : Ooooo careful with that... If you have the grades.... then it is your right. And your are forgetting the pending litigation against the school would
37 Kiwiandrew : I think rather than the parents trying to sue the school ( regardless of how crackpot the rules are the parents signed up to them when they enrolled t
38 AirframeAS : The problem with that is suing each other within your family, unfortunately, breaks up the family in ways you'd never imagine. That wouldn't be an op
39 Kiwiandrew : that hasn't stopped people before ... but yes , I was joking . Quite seriously though , the parents signed this kid up for something that they clearl
40 Lowrider : Not in all states. 26 also require passing a graduation exam. Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Louis
41 Texan : PUBLIC education, not private. There is no right to private education. Private schools may set their own codes of conduct and may suspend or expel pe
42 Cgnnrw : re: the schools response in defending their rules - where is the Christian attribute of forgiveness? Or "let he without sin cast the first stone"? Cat
43 DocLightning : No, because you have to have the grades AND have followed the rules. I agree with you completely. So you shouldn't send your kids there. This is a fr
44 AirframeAS : The only problem is that this kid is a Senior, meaning: the end of his high school career. Now the school is screwing up his future, probably only be
45 Steeler83 : Thanks. I do agree that such rules are inappropriate. The kid is outside of school, and unless a crime was committed, outside actions should not prev
46 Lowrider : That is the next level of escalation. If I was a parent of a student who agreed with the school's position, I would call Larry King, Keith Olberman,
47 DocLightning : You do have a right to an education. You do not have a right to a private education from that school. As long as the private school's rules aren't ab
48 Iairallie : I don't agree with the rules of this school which is why I would never attend or send a child to the school. However, I believe the school as a privat
49 Us330 : DocLightning is pretty much right on target. It's a private school, and as long as they don't cross the line into conducting criminal activities (whi
50 Type-Rated : I too believe that his school can mandate rules of behavior at THEIR OWN events, but they have no control what this kid can do off campus and on his o
51 IAirAllie : They do have control. They have the right to deal with students who break their rules on or off campus as they see fit. The kid doesn't have to go to
52 AirframeAS : You're half right on that... but attending school is the law. That is one option I was going to suggest earlier, but the thing is, wouldn't transferr
53 IAirAllie : He is wholly right. Attending school is the law but attending that particular school is neither the law nor their right. Why would it? I transfered p
54 DocLightning : Sure they can. How many of you here work for an airline? How many of you here take drug tests? You DO? How DARE that company regulate what you do in
55 Type-Rated : Recreational drugs is an illegal activity. Dancing is not. I was talking about behavioral rules, not illegal ones. And a school is not a company. You
56 AirframeAS : When you transfer from one school district to another, the new school district may have different requirements in order to graduate than what the for
57 Lowrider : LOL, a sure sign of a vetern crew member. See you there. But doing so satisfies the legal requirement to attend school, and certainly would satisfy a
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