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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 755 times:

Please search for JA8965 on the searchengine. It is a 747 from ANA. It has no winglets, but everyone says it is a -400 series. So what about it? Is it a -400 with its winglets cut off, or did all the photographers make a mistake?

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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 749 times:

There is no JA8965 in the database. It brings up 8962 and others.

Josh
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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 746 times:

Jaspike, that's very weird, my searches of ja8965 gives a 747-300(looks like that) with the photographers saying it is a -400. If it is working I have post some of the photos:


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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 741 times:

It says -400D. D is for domestic. They don't have winglets.
/JM



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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 737 times:

I looked it up in the Bill Harms list and it says it is a -400. But I don't see any winglets!!!????? Does anybody have an explanation for it?

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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 737 times:

Ah thanks Jan Mogren, didn't know that. so it is basically a -300 with -400 technology? How many have been build and is it still in production?

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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 733 times:

Well when I searched for it, it didn't come up..strange..

I got a few 747's and some 777's..

Josh
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User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 731 times:

Maybe yo put a - between JA and the number like ja-8965 instead of ja8965?

User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 731 times:

Winglets are good in high altitude cruise. On Japanese domestic sectors they aren't useful. They cost a lot and they weigh. The D version is a 400 but without winglets.
/JM



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 726 times:

The 400 Domestic doesn't have winglets, and tend to have high MTOW, and have slightly beefed up wings and gear. They're still a 744 though, with the new wing, interior and avionics.

And since when was this non-aviation related?


User currently offlineJj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 727 times:

As Jan Morgen said, it's a -400 wothout the winglets. I recall reading somewhere, that the winglets could be added, and it could become a -400.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 722 times:

It IS a 400! Just without winglets and beefy gear and wings!

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 721 times:

Maybe yo put a - between JA and the number like ja-8965 instead of ja8965
Nope, I copied it straight from your post at the top.

Josh
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User currently offlinePaulc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 703 times:

ANA have swopped some of their domestic fleet of 747-400 to international by adding winglets. This was done to level out the number of cycles done ie a domestic short haul 747 will do more than a longhaul 747.

JA8957 was a domestic when i felw on it in 1996 but i have seen it since at LHR



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User currently offlineMetwrench From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 750 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 697 times:

More importantly, why is the Flight Crew trying to scrape all the alluminum off the underside of the empenage in the first photo?

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