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User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

I am planning a trip to Germany next Febuary and would like some info please.
I visited Frankfurt last year and as QF have a daily flight ex Syd I will be using this again , I have already spent 10 days in the Frankfurt area including Heidelburg, so I am looking at other areas to visit, So what do you from Germany reccomend. I do realise it will be cold to very cold but this is not an issue, so where too Munich, Berlin ??? also how long are approx travel times to various options via D Bahn. looking for the normal touristy things museams etc good resurants bars are a plus . Total time I will be there is approx 18 days , so come on guys all help appreciated

mal787


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1865 times:
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Quoting Mal787 (Thread starter):
so where too Munich, Berlin ???

I live in Hamburg and this is - of course - my favorite city. Lots to see, lots to do and good nightlife.
Then I'd suggest Berlin for sure. Very historical there and lots to do as well.
Munich is worth a visit as well and maybe the area aroud it, like Regensburg or Augsburg.
Cologne (Köln) is not bad as well.
The Deutsche Bahn is always late Big grin A trip from Frankfurt to Hamburg takes a little over 4 hours by train. Hamburg to Berlin is about 1.5 hours. The rest I am not sure as I usually fly across Germany  Smile
In February the weather can be indeed pretty cold and nasty. It is in the middle of the winter.

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User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1846 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
The Deutsche Bahn is always late

I must have been lucky last year Vienna to Frankfurt bang on time.

I was thinking of the 3 cities you mentioned maybe I could do a triangular plan.... cant find map to check , but thanks for info

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
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Quoting Mal787 (Reply 2):
I must have been lucky last year Vienna to Frankfurt bang on time.

I guess so. Always when I use the Bahn it is late  Angry

Quoting Mal787 (Reply 2):
I was thinking of the 3 cities you mentioned maybe I could do a triangular plan.... cant find map to check , but thanks for info

Then I would do Hamburg, Berlin and Munich. www.maps.google.com A lot of maps there Big grin

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User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

I would do this circle-trip: FRA-Nuernberg-Leipzig-Berlin-Cologne-FRA. But definitely include Berlin in your itinerary.


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1842 times:
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Quoting PSA727 (Reply 4):
FRA-Nuernberg-Leipzig-Berlin-Cologne-FRA.

An option as well as Nürnberg is great too, but Leipzig? Then I'd prefer Dresden, more historical things to see.
And Hamburg is of course worth a visit as well  

wilco737

[Edited 2009-05-31 00:28:42]


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7701 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1808 times:
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I agree with Wilco - Hamburg rocks and would be top of my list. Then Berlin, Dresden and Munich in that order.


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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1806 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
The Deutsche Bahn is always late

So true! I tend to try to avoid the DB when I can, I’ll just fly/drive/cycle - much better.  Smile


User currently offlineTimlin88 From Switzerland, joined May 2009, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

If you like beer, you should definitely go to Munich, be it only for one night. I had the absolutely, hands-down, best beer in the world there. It's everywhere! Of course, you can probably get a lot of the same brands in other German towns too, but I think the experience of the Munich beer-hall is one to recommend to all. And Munich also has a lot of sightseeing to be done. I spent 5 days there in March and I was never bored.

Otherwise, of course Berlin is great, really nice city with a LOT of nightlife, and loads to see and do. You could probably spend months there and not have done everything  Smile

As for DB, I have used it several times (albeit probably not as much as the Germans on the forum  Wink), and it's always been spot-on for me. The ICE is a great quick way to get from place to place.

Hope you have a great stay there! I absolutely love Germany, I have only good things to say about it.

Matti


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

While I'm partial to Berlin, February (along with November) is possibly the worst month to visit the city. To really enjoy the relaxed and at the same time vibrant atmosphere in Berlin, you need to come when it is warmer and people hang out in the street, sip on a beer, chat or play a guitar.
Berlin in winter is gray, wet and not too welcoming.

Hence, unless the only thing you are interested in is nightlife, I would say Munich with day trips to Mount Zugspitze. Buy a Laenderticket to Garmisch-Partenkirchen to get a discounted ticket to go the summit. It will still cost you an arm and a leg, but on sunny days it is definitely worth it.
Other day trips could take you to Salzburg, Austria (Laenderticket!), Neuschwanstein Castle and Linderhof Castle (with Venus Grotto).

With 18 days to spend, you could even do a round-trip: Munich (with a day-trip to Salzburg), Fuessen (Neuschwanstein Castle), Lake Constance (with Lindau and Meersburg), Freiburg, perhaps Colmar in France, then back to Frankfurt.

If you still have time to spare, perhaps party in Berlin.
Or go to Cologne (like Frankfurt not exactly my favourite city). There's a high-speed route from FRA to Cologne, and a slower route that provides a beautiful view over the Rhine valley.



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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1772 times:



Quoting NoUFO (Reply 9):

While I'm partial to Berlin, February (along with November) is possibly the worst month to visit the city.

I actually visited Berlin at the end of November and, as a tourist, there was still plenty to enjoy about the city. Any city will look better in the summer, that's a given (except perhaps for Los Angeles where the clear winter days are more enjoyable than the hazy summer days), but Berlin offers so much history and eclectic neighborhoods that perhaps the greyness and coldness of the winter highlight the life of the city even more. Berlin has to be in your plans.

As for the other cities the other posters have literally nailed it. Koeln is very vibrant, Hamburg is just drop-dead gorgoeous, and Dresden is interesting as almost a blast from the past (and their historic Frauenkirche has recently been re-opened). For my tastes, though, my favorite German city is Dusseldorf...I'm going there in 2 weeks time to celebrate my birthday (and spend some quality time at the DUS observation deck!).


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Düsseldorf - of all places?  Wow!  Confused
Ah well, ok .... as long as you have a good time ....



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1718 times:



Quoting Mal787 (Reply 2):
I must have been lucky last year Vienna to Frankfurt bang on time

Probably an Austrian Train. Big grin  duck 

I enjoyed MUC and Berlin a lot! I will fly to TXL myself this year and will visit Gatow!  Smile


User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Ulm is a nice city to visit as well, especially the 500+ ft (160m) tall Lutheran church.  Smile


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1700 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 12):
I will fly to TXL myself this year and will visit Gatow!

Bring a tissue. The state the aircraft are in could drive you to tears.



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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1686 times:



Quoting NoUFO (Reply 11):
Düsseldorf - of all places?
Ah well, ok .... as long as you have a good time ....

I know, quite a strange choice perhaps, but for some reason I always feel at home whenever I'm there, a feeling I don't get anywhere else...including home!


User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Thanks for all the info guys , Looks like it will be Frankfurt9Arrival point) Munich ( departure ponit ) Berlin Dusseldorf and if I have time I will try and squeeze in one other, Still looking at DBahn but if I can get good deals on LH I will fly as much as I can

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1647 times:
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Quoting Mal787 (Reply 16):
Looks like it will be Frankfurt9Arrival point) Munich ( departure ponit ) Berlin Dusseldorf

 banghead  you have chosen Düsseldorf over Hamburg?! Just let me assure you, you will regret it not being in Hamburg.

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User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

As with other comments in this thread, I'd seriously reconsider timing and look at the spring. You would be looking at rain, snow, sleet, or a combination thereof.

That said, I have always liked Dusseldorf, the Altstadt can be a very lively place evenings/weekends. I pass through there to/from a research centre at Julich every other year. Ulm of course has the enormous church which IIRC is the tallest in Europe. Munich is pretty interesting, if there you must go to the Deutsche Museum. South of Munich on the Austrian border more or less is Fussen, which is adjacent to the fantastic castle of Neuschwanstein, built by 'mad' King Ludwig of Bavaria. Definitely worth a visit. As for Berlin, interesting on a number of levels, and you might just run in to David Bowie. Although running in to Iman probably would be more enjoyable.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1605 times:



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 18):
You would be looking at rain, snow, sleet, or a combination thereof.

Hence my suggestion to do a round-trip through southern Bavaria and Baden-Wurttemberg. There will be snow and untouched winter landscape you otherwise only find in children's books. Sleet and rain are comparatively unlikely. And Freiburg is a university town, so there are plenty of bars, clubs and affordable restaurants.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 17):
Just let me assure you, you will regret it not being in Hamburg.

Hamburg (spent 15 years there) is about 3x as beautiful as DUS and has a lot more to offer. But big cities are best being visited in summer. At least Hamburg, as opposed to Berlin, has lake Alster and Elbe river where it can be nice even on cold and wet days.



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User currently offlineMal787 From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 687 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1597 times:



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 18):
As with other comments in this thread, I'd seriously reconsider timing and look at the spring. You would be looking at rain, snow, sleet, or a combination thereof

Unfortunatley spring is not an option for my travel plans , as work has dictated when I can get time off .

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 19):
Hamburg (spent 15 years there) is about 3x as beautiful as DUS and has a lot more to offer. But big cities are best being visited in summer. At least Hamburg, as opposed to Berlin, has lake Alster and Elbe river where it can be nice even on cold and wet days

Speaking to a freind of mine over in the states ( he is German) he has given mme a blast for not doing Hamburg so I may have to reconsider.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 19):
You would be looking at rain, snow, sleet, or a combination thereof.

I actually dont mind the cols weather, living in the tropics you do tend to et sick of fine warm weather all the time and a change is good

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 17):
you have chosen Düsseldorf over Hamburg?! Just let me assure you, you will regret it not being in Hamburg

As mentioned above I have been chatsised for this so am going to reconsider.
i will post my final routing later , then will come thw questions re nice hotels

mal787



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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1593 times:



Quoting Mal787 (Reply 20):
I actually dont mind the cols weather, living in the tropics you do tend to et sick of fine warm weather all the time and a change is good

I can relate to this comment as well. Growing up in the Caribbean everyone I meet always asks why would I leave such a wonderful paradise. Well, it does get boring after 20 years!!! I've been to Germany twice during nasty winter months (November and February) and was probably the only person in the entire country enjoying the weather!

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 17):
you have chosen Düsseldorf over Hamburg?! Just let me assure you, you will regret it not being in Hamburg.

DUS is not THAT bad now! But I do agree with your comment, that's why I didn't try to make a big push for DUS on my original post. Hamburg is indeed a world class city but ....... I still prefer DUS!


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

I spent seven weeks studying in Munich last summer. Amazing city that is widely accessible by public transport.Noteworthy is the Altstadt section. A lot of older German history is present, but so is a lot of Germany's famous modernity(BMW, Allianz Arena, MUC airport, world class shopping). Munich where you'll really get the feel of old-world German beer culture--and you might even see somebody wearing dirndl or lederhosen. Also, Salzburg, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Nürnberg, and Innsbruck are all within a 2-3 hour rail radius of Munich should you decide to either go skiing or history-finding. I highly recommend Munich.

Berlin doesn't have Munich's beautiful sightlines, but its history is rampant all over the city, and IMO, there is somewhat still a difference between the East and West sides. History is rampant, and there is something underground and unique about Berlin. I wasn't there long enough to pinpoint it precisely, but Berlin is a neat city.



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