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Cruise Ship Thread 2009 News+ New Launches  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26787 posts, RR: 58
Posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14768 times:

Ok so I know quite a few are interested in Cruise Ships so I thought Id set up a thread to chat about new ships and innovations.

I know some prefer small and intimate whilst others prefer mega liners. Here we can discuss all and share experiences.

The latest news is that Celebritys Equinox has come out of the ship yard. Here are some photos ::













Also more photos here ::

http://web8.506.bces.de/cruise_xxl/thumbnails.php?album=54

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User currently offlineIH8BY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14759 times:

She's not the most beautiful liner, is she? A rather angular forward hull, and a brutally styled stern, and also apparently very little to break up the monotony of the rows of balconies. Not only that, but that rather blunt bow suggests to me two words: car ferry!

Admittedly, the word 'graceful' is not one that is particularly pertinent to a lot of modern ships, especially the larger ones. Whilst I appreciate that aesthetics are not especially important given that the passengers will largely (a) not care how it looks and (b) be experiencing the ship from the inside, not the outside, so there's little point in wasting space on, say, a longer bow or a more attractively tiered stern, some ships just seem a little too far in the 'apartment block' direction for my liking.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 14755 times:

Looks like a beautiful hull designed to cut the waves to me. Looking forward to more launches and photos of these beautiful ships.

KH



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 14727 times:

This one looks pretty good I think.

I'm excited to try out the new Norwegian Epic next summer. The shape of the ship is pretty hideous but the decor/amentities seem awesome

http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/images/Norwegian-Epic-Ship-Photo.jpg


User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 14719 times:

I'm booked on the Radiance of the Seas in November out of San Diego. Looking forward to it!

User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14704 times:

Whatever happened to styling on a cruise ship. These are nothing but "big-box" cruise ships. Why would I want to spend a week on something that looks like a skyscraper laying on its side? I'll take an older ship any day over these eyesores.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26787 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 14677 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Looks like a beautiful hull designed to cut the waves to me. Looking forward to more launches and photos of these beautiful ships.

Yes I agree .

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 3):
The shape of the ship is pretty hideous but the decor/amentities seem awesome

I have to say I was shocked when I saw it , the interiors will be amazing though and NCL usually dont dissapoint .

I like all kinds of ships , large and small. I was on one last week that takes under 150 passengers. The photos can be seen here ::

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/149759/


User currently offlineJasYHZ From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14625 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
The latest news is that Celebritys Equinox has come out of the ship yard. Here are some photos ::

Just booked a 10 night Eastern Caribbean on the Equinox for 05FEB - can't wait to escape the Nova Scotia cold!!!

JasYHZ



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14608 times:



Quoting Bohica (Reply 5):
Whatever happened to styling on a cruise ship. These are nothing but "big-box" cruise ships. Why would I want to spend a week on something that looks like a skyscraper laying on its side? I'll take an older ship any day over these eyesores.

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Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Looks like a beautiful hull designed to cut the waves to me. Looking forward to more launches and photos of these beautiful ships.

Yes I agree .

I agree with the "looking forward to more photos" bit, but a beautiful hull designed to cut through the waves? Not so much. First time that ship gets hit by a rogue wave, say goodnight, gracie.


User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14596 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
Looks like a beautiful hull designed to cut the waves to me

Not really. That design is traditionally meant to ride the waves.
An axe bow would be used to 'cut' threw a wave.
Google "Predator Yacht" for an example.
It's only a matter of time before we see them on cruise ships...

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 3):
The shape of the ship is pretty hideous but the decor/amentities seem awesome

Is that configuration an afterthought???
It's horrific looking (not that it matters once your onboard) But those cabins are going to sway like crazy in a moderate sea.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10862 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14553 times:

[quote=Bohica,reply

I see the new floating apartment blocks all the time in Monaco and Villefranche. They are not aesthetically pleasing to the eyes to say the least. The QM2 and QV are still acceptable though.

I still much prefer the old liners. France and QE2 were my top favourites of all. They were so incredibly glamorous and stylish.

Yesterday when I was young...

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...84142800754&h=YD7R4&u=F8w7c&ref=mf

I will forever miss them.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFWac...ref%3Dname&feature=player_embedded

[Edited 2009-06-08 04:29:44]


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10583 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 14537 times:



Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 3):
This one looks pretty good I think.

Too top heavy like all cruise ships built nowadays. From all the large new built´s of the past ten years, only Queen Mary 2 can be regarded as visually pleasing to me. There are some pretty ships among the smaller cuisers though, like the Europa, which independently is regarded to be the best cruiseship in the world.
Queen Victoria and its near sisters from the Vista class ( operating for Costa, Holland-America and Carnival) are ok, as is the Carnival Destiny class (some of which are also operating for Costa), but the rest of the big ships are just boxy, top-heavy swimming hotels I couldnt care less for. The Equinoxe and Solstice with their tiny funnels look stupid to me, as do the latest Aida´s.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
I still much prefer the old liners. France and QE2 were my top favourites of all. They were so incredibly glamorous and stylish.

I know we are of the same taste here! I would add the original Queen Mary. That for me was the most majestic ship ever - she still is in fact, as, thank god, she´s the sole survivor of a grand era.

I like cruising Cunard-style the most anyway. Red, white and black ships, I dont need more.
I´m not much in danger to board the ugly pure white block of flats.


User currently offlineIH8BY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1141 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 14529 times:

Whilst of a much smaller tonnage than some of the megaliners, I think the styling of P&O's Oriana (1995) and Aurora (2000) is quite pleasing for a large ship. A long and sleek bow plus a tiered superstructure around a pool at the stern manage to evoke certain aspects of classic liners, plus also managing quite effectively to mask the size of these ships.


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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14522 times:

Personally I think Disney Wonder and Magic are by far and away the most visually pleaseing cruise ships to have been launched in the past 20 years. The twin funnels and cruiser stern along with the black hull really make these ships stand out from all the other apartment blocks on a hull.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what the next two Disney ships (Dream & Fantasy) will be like, the first will be launched in 2010.

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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10583 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14513 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
Personally I think Disney Wonder and Magic are by far and away the most visually pleaseing cruise ships to have been launched in the past 20 years. The twin funnels and cruiser stern along with the black hull really make these ships stand out from all the other apartment blocks on a hull.

Yes, how could I forgot about them. Outside design is really fine, apart from the rear upper superstructure behind the funnels. But from what I´ve seen, inside they´re quite tacky.

Quoting IH8BY (Reply 12):
Whilst of a much smaller tonnage than some of the megaliners, I think the styling of P&O's Oriana (1995) and Aurora (2000) is quite pleasing for a large ship

These two are ok, as are some other ships from the 90s like the Costa Classica.
The ugly topheavy block of flats look started right around the time those two P&O-ships were built.


User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14511 times:



Quoting NA (Reply 14):
Yes, how could I forgot about them. Outside design is really fine, apart from the rear upper superstructure behind the funnels. But from what I´ve seen, inside they´re quite tacky.

Apart from the obvious Disney branding they are quite pleasing IMO, a big step up from the extreme tackiness of the average Carnival ship.


User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14499 times:



Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
Personally I think Disney Wonder and Magic are by far and away the most visually pleaseing cruise ships to have been launched in the past 20 years.

Yes, the cruiser stern and pseudo whale back bow set them apart. The dark hull paint at least tries to delineate the hull from the superstructure.

Quoting NA (Reply 11):
original Queen Mary. That for me was the most majestic ship ever

I have a huge soft spot for the classic liners. But compared to the Normandie, the Queen Mary looks like an aging dowager---and nothing more than a larger Mauretania (but I def see your point in comparison to the ferry-like ships being built today).


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14499 times:



Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 8):
I agree with the "looking forward to more photos" bit, but a beautiful hull designed to cut through the waves? Not so much. First time that ship gets hit by a rogue wave, say goodnight, gracie.

Disagreed. Check this website out:

http://www.mirage-mfg.com/html/trawlers.html

Same type of hull but no bulbous bow.

KH



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14497 times:

And that site means what?

Why should I care about ugly trawlers?

Back to the cruise ships...

Those boats are designed for calmer waters of the Caribbean, or waters close to shores. Cutting through waves? Not so much. Ocean liners cut through waves. Ocean liners could go anywhere in the world, take on all sorts of seas, and come out ok. You wouldn't take one of these new hotels on water on North Atlantic crossings. At least with the Queen Mary 2, it actually looks like it could handle heavy seas.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14495 times:



Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 18):
And that site means what?

Same type of hull design my friend. That ship could survive 40-50ft swells if need be. And if did take on a rogue wave of 80-100ft, I am sure she would survive as such standards exist for ships like that.

KH



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14493 times:



Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 18):
Those boats are designed for calmer waters of the Caribbean, or waters close to shores. Cutting through waves?

Sources please. Those ships travel across the oceans to relocate to other ports. I am not buying into that as that ship is capable of taking a jorney across the atlantic. If you do not believe me, my friends dad is Bruce Niernberg, a former cruise ship exec.

KH



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26787 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14489 times:



Quoting JasYHZ (Reply 7):
Just booked a 10 night Eastern Caribbean on the Equinox for 05FEB

#

Great Im going on it in 6 weeks time. I will take lots of photos for you to see. If you want me to take a photo of your stateroom let me know and I will try to get it for you.


User currently offlineJasYHZ From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14472 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 21):
#

Great Im going on it in 6 weeks time. I will take lots of photos for you to see. If you want me to take a photo of your stateroom let me know and I will try to get it for you.

Excellent! Thanks! I'll PM you the details!

JasYHZ



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14461 times:



Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 18):
Those boats are designed for calmer waters of the Caribbean, or waters close to shores. Cutting through waves? Not so much. Ocean liners cut through waves. Ocean liners could go anywhere in the world, take on all sorts of seas, and come out ok. You wouldn't take one of these new hotels on water on North Atlantic crossings. At least with the Queen Mary 2, it actually looks like it could handle heavy seas.

Completely agree, you just have to look at the service speeds of the QE2 and QM2 compared to all the other cruise ships to realise that there is a significant difference between the hull design of an Ocean Liner compared to a cruise ship. I wouldn't want to do a winter crossing of the Atlantic in a cruise ship whereas I would have no quarms about booking pssage on the QM2.


User currently offlineDw747400 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14431 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 20):

Sources please. Those ships travel
across the oceans to relocate to other ports. I am not buying into that as that ship is capable of taking a jorney across the atlantic.

The ships are quite capable of crossing the ocean, but they are hardly built for it. A purpose built cruise liner like the QM2 is faster and more stable in the rough North Atlantic, and her hull is stronger to withstand the constant pounding of repeated crossings, unlike the the cruise ships that would require a great deal more maintenance and repair if they constantly sailed rough seas.

Just like comparing a 757 to a 777--both can do oceanic flights, but one is more comfortable for passengers and more efficient for doing the trip day in and day out.



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25 MadameConcorde : I do not like the look of the new Disney ships. The bent funnels with all the tubes sticking out are fugly. That tasteless logo on the funnels does no
26 NA : While the Queen Mary might have looked looked a bit oldfashioned next to the Normandie (remember she was designed a few years earlier, but delayed du
27 MadameConcorde : Oh I know. I see far too many of that type down here. I don't like them at all. Cunardival Vickie and Big Mary still look very good I think. Big Mary
28 TylerDurden : A bit? Are you crazy? Other than three funnels, there is no comparison. I hear ya. I liked her too. Although never a fan of the Queen Elizabeth---not
29 Post contains images Luv2cattlecall : Here you go: Those were pics of the old ones.
30 KiwiRob : The new Disney ships are crackers, they expand upon the already great looks of the existing pair.
31 Post contains links and images OA260 : Another new build is from Silversea. Luxury at its best.
32 NorthstarBoy : the Equinox isn't bad, but the Epic, that thing is a design monstrosity. The sad thing is, the same company that probably paid a billion dollars to bu
33 Post contains images EA CO AS : I'm still stunned by the fact that RCCL transferred Sovereign of the Seas to Pullmantur.   [Edited 2009-06-17 04:07:07]
34 Post contains links and images OA260 : Sovereign of the Seas was my first cruise years back. I did Miami to the Bahamas and back. ----------- Some more pics of Oasis of the Seas. http://ww
35 TylerDurden : Eeeek...another deformed ship like the Epic! Not sure Silversea is 'luxury at its best' (but certainly at the top!)---Silversea was rated behind both
36 OA260 : Well it kind of went down for a while but from recent experience its back up again. I like Crystal, one of my friends works for them and I have been
37 Post contains links and images NoUFO : I'd say it's either the Normandie or the original France. The French did and do have some great designers. Meanwhile the Celebrity Equinox is on her
38 OA260 : Thnaks for the pics. Getting excited as the countdown starts.
39 Sunshine79 : Has anyone been on the Sea Princess? My parents are going round the Caribbean on it for 15 days in January. My mother gets a bit sea sick but they are
40 Post contains links OA260 : No but I have been on another of their ships. Some Sea Princess reviews here :: http://www.cruisecritic.com/memberre...reviews.cfm?action=ship&ShipID
41 KFLLCFII : Nice ship...But I'll be honest, the first thing that caught my eye wasn't it, but the building! That thing is massive! Is that another ship I see und
42 Post contains links and images OA260 : LOL.. must be . -------------- NCL Epic with Waterpark and Ice Bar.
43 Post contains links MadameConcorde : France, the First Love of my life! I have seen a lot of her during my young years on harbour and at sea. There was nothing more beautiful to my eyes.
44 GQfluffy : Sigh... If any of the designers from the 1920s through 1960s are still alive, I'll bet they shake their heads in disgust of what the modern "ocean lin
45 KiwiRob : NCL Epic is so ugly I really happy that the contract for the second one was cancelled, having one travesty like this floating around is bad enough....
46 BananaBoY : I may be unpopular (at least within this thread), but I couldn't care less what the ship looks like from the outside.. I am rarely going to be lookin
47 JasYHZ : The next Solstice Class ship - the Celebrity Eclipse is under construction now in the place where the Equinox just was.....
48 OA260 : True I think in real life it will look better all painted up etc.. there is no denying the onboard facilities will be great. The ice bar looks cool (
49 Post contains links OA260 : Celebrity Cruises' New Celebrity Equinox Navigates Narrow River Ems En Route to Official Launch. MIAMI, June 22 /PRNewswire/ -- With less than 20 feet
50 Post contains links MadameConcorde : The QE 3 will be sailing soon! Although she will never match her older counterpart QE2, the new Lizzie 3 will be a beautiful ship. Monaco will be one
51 KiwiRob : I think it's terrible that Cunard are calling the new Vista class Queens. The new Vista class ships should have names like Mauretania, Lusitania, Aqui
52 OA260 : It was blown up It was no longer able to cope with the crossings and was sent to the knackers yard!! Naming those would have the wrong image. Cunard
53 KiwiRob : True but unless you look them up how many people actually know that, they were just the first names that came to mind, Cunard had many names to pick f
54 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Oh dear... I know... I agree with this. It may happen sooner than we think. Wrong move from Cunardival selling her to Nakheel... Rather than selling
55 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Just found this picture gallery with the new 2009 cruise ships so I thought I would post it in this thread. I would not go on any of them. Although my
56 OA260 : Costa are ok but not my cup of tea. Celebrity Equinox Im going on next month, Cant wait should be fun. Silversea Spirit Id love to go on. I love their
57 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Meanwhile the QE2 is still sittiling idle at Port Rashid with no prospect of any refurbishment to be done any time soon. Nakheel just wants to save fa
58 Luv2cattlecall : " target=_blank>http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...p.jpg Wow...Didn't realize that they outsourced shipwashing duties to AF.
59 Windy95 : Just booked the Crown Princess on the 7 day Western out of Ft Lauderdale. This will be our first on Princess so we will be looking forward to it.
60 KiwiRob : The refurb was going to rip the guts out of her, turn her into something she was never meant to be, I think running her onto a wrecking beach would h
61 Post contains links OA260 : Engine room fire on cruise ship forces Princess to cancel two voyages Princess Cruises has canceled two voyages on the Royal Princess in the wake of T
62 Post contains links and images OA260 : MSC New launch :: The new flagship Splendida add to the fleet of MSC Cruises July 12 next year, with the inauguration to be held in Barcelona, but the
63 Post contains links OA260 : Equinox sails into Southampton:: Cruise ship berths in Southampton http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hampshire/8158149.stm Video on link .
64 MadameConcorde : Another monster floating apartment block cruise ship. Oh well... some people must like them. Yet I wish the new Ship all the best in her cruising car
65 OA260 : It will remind you of Monaco when you away
66 Post contains links and images OA260 : Just back of the lovely Celebrity Equinox and it was amazing. Here is my report of the flights and all the photos of the ship . Celebrity Equinox Crui
67 MadameConcorde : The biggest of the new mega-cruise ships was in Monaco not too long ago. I was not in town so I missed it. How many passengers does that new one carry
68 OA260 : ....Try 2850 And you never feel that there is even half that amount onboard due to the unique design and numerous facilities.
69 NA : Not bad inside, although its too much blue for my taste (Cunard´s red is nicer, warmer and somewhat more noble). The microscopic funnels on this shi
70 OA260 : I wanted to take the QM2 Southampton to New York but recent reviews about sub standard food and cut backs alarm me. I think they are living off the o
71 LTBEWR : Besides their generally ugly barge like looks, I am becoming very concerned about the massive increased size and bulk of the recent generation of crui
72 MadameConcorde : Big Mary, the Girl from Saint Nazaire... She is no longer a Cunard Queen but a Cunardival one. It makes a world of difference. There are no more empl
73 OA260 : Well the Equinox was certainly not that. Maybe the Oasis will be but we will all know in December. Oh very true. Cunard as it was is dead long ago. S
74 Post contains links and images AirPacific747 : It strikes me how narrow many of the ships look compared to how long they are.. not suited for waves coming in from either side or it will be some ver
75 OA260 : Its a German holiday ship AIDA but the interior is actually alot nicer . Thanks
76 Post contains links AirPacific747 : By the way, Freedom of The Seas is not the biggest one anymore, my mistake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Independence_of_the_Seas And another one i
77 Post contains links OA260 : TR : FlyBe To See The Worlds Largest Cruise Liner! (by OA260 Apr 24 2007 in Trip Reports)?threadid=99176&searchid=99176&s=the+worlds+largest+cruise+l
78 AirPacific747 : Thanks! Will just take a look. How come you visit all those cruise ships? A kind of cruise ship spotter?
79 OA260 : No I work in the Industry , I guess it helps
80 DLA330 : Is the Norwegian Epic their first F3 ship?
81 AirPacific747 : Aha! :P Lucky you! Must be interesting to see them all from the inside!
82 NA : Are you sure. I know these problems bugged QM2 when the ship was new, but read a lot about that it has improved (www.cruise-critic.com). The new ship
83 AirPacific747 : You're right. They look hideous too. I don't understand the companies that invest maybe half a billion USD in such a ship and then mess it up that ba
84 KiwiRob : It's the one and only F3 ship, the second hull was cancelled and the option on the third was never taken up.
85 Post contains links AverageUser : On the progress of the largest cruise ship ever -- may I insert the Chairman's Blog . There are some interesting and informative entries.
86 OA260 : Cruise Critic is a good website and I am an active member myself. There is actually a recent review with regards to the food there also. One cruise l
87 Astuteman : [ Far more importantly, handle them at speed The primary strength calculation for any ship is based on a trochoidal wave the same length a the ship be
88 Bananaboy : Recently, I have seen them talking about the possibility of (re)ordering a second F3 ship, though it may not be identical to the Norwegian Epic. Mark
89 Post contains links Qantas744 : I got a shot of Celebrity Equinox last when she was on a quick run up the Solent and back to Southampton, she's back on Saturday and then heads off to
90 OA260 : What day was that ?? Was it around 5pm??
91 StealthZ : I trust none of you budding seafarers are concerned that cruise ship design is being explained to you by one who designs ships that sink... deliberat
92 Astuteman : In our game, it pays to know a bit about the targets...... Rgds
93 Qantas744 : It was July 26th, it came out at the usual time for cruises and passed me in Portsmouth shortly before 7pm. I have a shot of it the following day at
94 OA260 : Yes I was indeed. Fab you got a pic of it, Thanks
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