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Neo-Nazi Shooting At US Holocaust Museum  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

suspect is a 88 year old hardline neo-nazi!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/index.html

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User currently offlineSkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I just walked down 14st...it's all blocked off with police surrounding the building.

Sad this type of thing still happens this day and age...why all the hate?



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Headline News on TV is saying 5 shots fired so far. But that is subject to change.


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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Hopefully everything turns out okay with the security guard.

It's a shame this 89 year old dope didn't have Zyklon-B come through his shower head this morning.



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

Ugh,
I am tired of thugs running around with guns and hurting people. First the crazed Muslim convert shooting up the Army recruiting office and now this.

The question is what do you do with a 88 yr old criminal? Lock him up for the few years he has left?


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2839 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 4):
The question is what do you do with a 88 yr old criminal? Lock him up for the few years he has left?

Punish him as you would a 28 year old.
This man is sick and I hope they get anyone else in his organization that is planning further attacks.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

I just read some of his writings...one mixed up dude, to say the least.

http://www.holywesternempire.org/tob_shebbe_goyim_harog_first6.pdf


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2809 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 4):
The question is what do you do with a 88 yr old criminal? Lock him up for the few years he has left?

Punish him as you would a 28 year old.

That wouldn't do anything given his age. He knows he is on his way out sooner if not later anyway.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2808 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
That wouldn't do anything given his age. He knows he is on his way out sooner if not later anyway.

So just let him walk freely?



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User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

The site has been taken off the air, but in any case -- it's clear that this guy had enough marbles left to propagate his warped views and to take the next step...


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7623 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2791 times:
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A disgusting act. My sympathies go out to all those affected.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
88 year old hardline neo-nazi

At 88 years old probably not so much a neo-nazi as a lifelong nazi supporter.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 4):
Ugh,
I am tired of thugs running around with guns and hurting people. First the crazed Muslim convert shooting up the Army recruiting office and now this.

Agreed. Guns need to be kept away from the unbalanced in the population. In practice this will mean restricting their availability to all.



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User currently onlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2783 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 4):
The question is what do you do with a 88 yr old criminal? Lock him up for the few years he has left?

The laws of this land doesn't take age into consideration. He should be prosecuted like anyone else.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
I just read some of his writings...one mixed up dude, to say the least

Yep, needs a lot of help. I heard one report that he didn't like the high interest rates or something like that. Interesting.

Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 3):
Hopefully everything turns out okay with the security guard.

Unfortunately he didn't make it.

R.I.P.


User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

Local media now reporting security guard has died.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

The news is now saying the suspect is a James Von Brunn.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
So just let him walk freely?

I didn't say that, not even close. The suspect knows, being 88, he is pretty much past the life expectancy and not much will be done with him anyway. Jail for the remainder of his natural life is a given. I doubt the death penalty will be requested, again, given his age.....

I say let the guy die naturally in the slammer.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2757 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
I didn't say that, not even close. The suspect knows, being 88, he is pretty much past the life expectancy and not much will be done with him anyway. Jail for the remainder of his natural life is a given. I doubt the death penalty will be requested, again, given his age.....

No death penalty in the District of Colombia so even a 28 year old wouldn't get the death penalty. So again, treat him as you would a 28 year old. Throw his ass in the slammer for the rest of his pathetic life.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12163 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2652 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 10):
Agreed. Guns need to be kept away from the unbalanced in the population. In practice this will mean restricting their availability to all.

DC is one of the places in the country with the most restrictive gun laws....apparently they didn't work. Before one comes up with new laws for honest gun owners..how about enforcing the ones already on the books?



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10989 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Man what a !@#$ed up dude.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 15):
DC is one of the places in the country with the most restrictive gun laws.

not anymore!!

Not after Heller.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15450 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2609 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
I say let the guy die naturally in the slammer.

I disagree. Take him out back and shoot him. Don't even wait till dawn.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2597 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 17):
I disagree. Take him out back and shoot him. Don't even wait till dawn.

This guy still has a right to trial by jury under the law, which includes a speedy trial. I'm sure you already know that.



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User currently offlineKSYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Well, the shooter is 88 years old, was shot, and is in critical condition. You won't find me disappointed if he doesn't make it through the night.

User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15450 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2577 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 18):
This guy still has a right to trial by jury under the law, which includes a speedy trial. I'm sure you already know that.

I think we can accomplish a trial by dawn.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21083 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

What a sick idiot. It shouldn't be surprising that these people still exist, but somehow it still is.

RIP to the security guard, and condolences to his family.

Quoting KSYR (Reply 19):
the shooter is 88 years old, was shot, and is in critical condition. You won't find me disappointed if he doesn't make it through the night.

Nor me.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 4):

The question is what do you do with a 88 yr old criminal? Lock him up for the few years he has left?

That sounds like a pretty good plan.  thumbsup 

-Mir



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9105 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2533 times:



Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 3):
It's a shame this 89 year old dope didn't have Zyklon-B come through his shower head this morning.

Good one!

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
That wouldn't do anything given his age. He knows he is on his way out sooner if not later anyway.

I say screw the ACLU and lock this bastard in a dark hole someplace. Alcatraz is just the place for him, or would have been anyway. Thanks alot ACLU...



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

What a sick old man. Hard to believe such people exist in this day and age. I was watching a program about the KKK and other such white supremacist groups on TV the other day and was dumbfounded to see such people still exist. I can only feel sorry for those sad individuals who don't have anything better to do with their lives than think somehow they're better than everyone else and go around preaching that hate.

RIP to the security guard, he died doing his job. But..how the hell did this idiot walk in unnoticed with a rifle?!



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

The Holocaust Museum is considered one of the biggest potential terrorist or right wing attack sites in the District of Columbia due to it's primary accent on the dominate proportion of Jews murdered during the Nazi WWII Holocaust. Homeland Security did a report that came out earlier this year that noted the higher risks of right wing domestic based groups and individuals at sites like the Holocaust Museum due to the election of Pres. Obama as a Black man as well as the more 'liberal' policies he is advocating.

This terrorist - that is what I call him - figured out the weaknesses of the security there and around it to make his point and kill someone. At 88 years old and probably with a bullet in him he won't last long. Then he can join the 9/11 terrorists in Hell.


25 Post contains links CPH-R : Looks like the perpetrator was a Holocaust Denier, 9/11 Truther (#9196 on http://www.justicefor911.org/signatures.php?page=92 ), Obama birther ( http:
26 Aaron747 : I specifically established that context because the 2nd amendment as written is absent of the knowledge of myriad externalities affecting the gun rig
27 Post contains links LMP737 : It's unfortanate that he did not let go of all that hate like former KKK member Elwin Wilson did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHQJUKoj4w
28 Max999 : I recall that several months ago, conservatives were up in arms about a report from Homeland Security which warned of rising right wing extremism...th
29 Charlienorth : Except this guy is no conservative..he hated the Bush's,the "neocons" as posted earlier thought 9/11 was a hoax ...sounds like some of our members he
30 Max999 : I'm not talking about the shooter at the museum being a conservative...I'm talking about the conservative politicians and pundits on TV who reacted s
31 Charlienorth : There are many extremest groups..and they may be right but again this guy was no right-winger,I woul more connect him with the preachings of The "rev
32 AGM100 : That's valid enough , they should be monitored. But meanwhile they call Islamic terrorism ... "man made catastrophe". Its seems to be easier for them
33 Cws818 : I fully agree. So what would be the problem, then, with prohibiting the sale of such "full auto" weapons? None of the hunters that I know felt that t
34 L-188 : They have been highly resticted in the US since the 1932 gun control act. If you want one you are looking at low 5 figures to start. I know a guy who
35 Santosdumont : As I said earlier, this guy's ideology is far more insidious than any religion. Anti-Semitism makes for the strangest bedfellows you can imagine. Con
36 Superfly : Reverend Wright is a military vet that is a leader of a large Church congregation that is open to all. He has never attempted murder, never advocated
37 Superfly : So explain why there has been an increase since Obama has been President? He isn't the first, nor the last Democrat president. Don't pretend it's his
38 AirframeAS : I fail to see how the ACLU has anything to do with this situation since they are not involved.
39 Superfly : Huh? Alcatraz is a major tourist attraction here in San Francisco. Alcatraz also has some of the best views of a the city. I wouldn't want this Nazi
40 Falstaff : Maybe we should get some Gitmo detainees to work there. I don't know if there really is an increase or not. The media may be jumping on it more than
41 Superfly : I was referring to the increase in membership and activity by white supremest organizations. Not talking about the usual chatter in the mainstream me
42 KSYR : No, your post was just ludicrous and baseless. That's all. Seriously, this dude believed that GWB and neo-cons planned 9/11, and he called Christiani
43 Falstaff : When the economy is bad membership in that kind of thing usually increases. During the depression of the 1930s there was a lot of action going on in
44 Superfly : ..and yours' wasn't? I must have really touched a nerve with you. You are correct. I was simply pointing something out to my friend Falstaff about th
45 Moderators : After removing 65 posts from this thread for being completely off-topic, the following advice is offered: Any posts in this thread should be directly
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