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Letterman VS Palin ... How Do You See It?  
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

Even if you dislike Palin politically .... do you support this kind of humor;? Let me tell you this ..if anyone ever said this about my daughter , I would track them down and beat the living @!!x&;$%;#(!!! out of him or get hurt trying !. I hope that Mr. Palin gets involved in this ... it is just gone too far now.

Do you think letterman went too far here ? Imagine if something like this was said about the Obama daughters ..or Chelsy Clinton . I personally don't care if they are democrats or republicans if anyone said that about my kid ...its going down.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5034 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Do you think letterman went too far here

He is part of the media that is in the tank for Obama. Him, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, those idiots at MSNBC. Their agenda is simple, destroy anyone that may run in 2012' because their only goal is another 4 years for Obama.

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Imagine if something like this was said about the Obama daughters ..or Chelsy Clinton .

Oh forget it, you would have boycotts and everyone asking for resignations. It's such a double standard.


User currently offlineZentraedi From Japan, joined Jun 2007, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5025 times:

I thought you were going to post about the "Slutty Flight Attendant" comment : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNV7V91b8Hc

Letterman just isn't funny. 10 was ok, but kinda stale. The flight attendant thing was just lame.

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Even if you dislike Palin politically .... do you support this kind of humor;?

I'm sure the usual players here will tie their party affiliation to whatever response they have...

Personally, I'm offended by how unfunny it was and how much of my time was wasted watching his show.

Although, I think you take it too far when you pull out the "said this about my daughter". They are just words and they're both big girls(Sarah & Bristol). They can handle it.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

At best, the joke was just plain lame. At worst...I'd say crude.

User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4980 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Do you think letterman went too far here ? Imagine if something like this was said about the Obama daughters ..or Chelsy Clinton .

Chelsea Clinton was frequently and visciously lampooned for being ugly. This included some stabs on Saturday Night Live.

Chelsea was never lampooned for getting knocked up because, well, she never got knocked up. Furthermore, she didn't have a parent who used the fact the she was pregnant to pander for votes during an election run. If she had been pregnant and if the Clintons had placed her front and center in their campaign efforts then she would have been satirized in the same way.

Sarah Palin made her daughter fair game when she paraded her around the campaign trail and made an issue out of her pregnancy.

Public personalities are fair game for the media. I can't say much about Letterman's taste in jokes, but it was bound to happen. If Todd feels angry enough about Letterman's joke to want to kick #$@$# he should look no further than the one term Governor from Alaska.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4966 times:



Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 2):
I thought you were going to post about the "Slutty Flight Attendant" comment

Palin herself is in my opinion , for lack of a better term fair game. She is a adult... she can defend herself. I guess many will defend letterman because she herself brought her kids into the spotlight .. in someways I think they are right about that . But as a Dad ... I would be pissed at this kind of talk coming from another man no matter what .

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 2):
"said this about my daughter".

I can tell you that it really offended me ... I have been in a situation where my daughter needed defending and it was instinctual . If Mr. Palin is not offended by this then something is wrong with him ... any father would be in my opinion.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

Though the humor is a little weak and frnakly not all that funny when you're in the limelight particularly in the political arena this kind of stuff is going to happen.

Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Chelsea Clinton was frequently and visciously lampooned for being ugly. This included some stabs on Saturday Night Live.

I remember this well.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Oh forget it, you would have boycotts and everyone asking for resignations. It's such a double standard.



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Their agenda is simple, destroy anyone that may run in 2012' because their only goal is another 4 years for Obama.




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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4939 times:



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Chelsea Clinton was frequently and visciously lampooned for being ugly. This included some stabs on Saturday Night Live.

You know I just don't remember allot of that ... I am sure it happened from time to time. I just don't recall that kind of vicious smear of Chelsey .... and I am glad. It would be the same issue ... President Clinton .. I mean Hillary Clinton could have kicked some ass and I would have respected them for it. !

Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Sarah Palin made her daughter fair game when she paraded her around the campaign trail and made an issue out of her pregnancy.

OK I saw the Obama daughters and Chelsy on the campaign trial .... let me get to writing up some smear crap about them.. please, its ..ridiculous .



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

I think the joke was in poor taste. I don't like to see politicians' kids dragged into the fray. Even though in the case of Bristol, to a certain extent her Mom in a way did the dragging last year, I wish everyone would let it go. I doubt the kid relished the idea of having her pregnancy broadcast to the world, and by Mom no less, so I can't see the idea of keeping her name in the publice eye. Kids of candidates and office holders should be off limits for comedians in my opinion.

User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4936 times:

It's kind of pathetic and Letterman generally isn't very funny, as the ratings have proven.

Look, it's one thing to insinuate that Chelsea Clinton isn't a good looking woman (and note, they really didn't go after Chelsea until she was 18 or 19).

It's another thing to say that Willow Palin, 14 years old, who was with Sarah at the Yankees game had sex with A-Rod is another. I like shocking, raw humor, but really how would a similar joke about Obama's daughter go down. There would be mass outrage everywhere including here. He's gonna get away with it, but it was absolutely classless.



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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4885 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7):
Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Sarah Palin made her daughter fair game when she paraded her around the campaign trail and made an issue out of her pregnancy.

OK I saw the Obama daughters and Chelsy on the campaign trial .... let me get to writing up some smear crap about them.. please, its ..ridiculous .

Did you actually read my quote? Did the Obama girls get knocked up and if so, did their father make a campaign issue out of it? Did Chelsea get pregnant?

You've got to wonder about a woman running for vice president who is so willing to give up her daughter's privacy in order to turn a campaign issue to her advantage. What a great mom! If you want to get pissed, get pissed with Sarah Palin who has offered the private lives of those around her as political fodder.


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3873 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

I thought he crossed the line here, simply because the daughter he went after isn't a public figure and is still a minor. I had no issues with the flight attendant joke, or if he were to have made fun of Bristol. But the girl he mocked has not tried to become a public figure.

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11414 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4868 times:



Quoting Us330 (Reply 11):
had no issues with the flight attendant joke, or if he were to have made fun of Bristol. But the girl he mocked has not tried to become a public figure.

For what it's worth, the caption is wrong. He didn't say anything about Willow. In fact, he didn't say anything about Bristol by name either.

With that said, he came dangerously close to the line. I hate the idea drawing the line at using the word "Bristol", but let's be clear: Palin exploited her daughter's pregnancy for political reasons. I'm upset that we're joking about something very serious about a person who should not be considered a public figure, but I'm also upset that Palin chose to exploit her.

Kind of makes it hard to yell at people for talking smack about your daughter when you are out there talking about your daughter's sins.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Imagine if something like this was said about the Obama daughters ..or Chelsy Clinton .

Uh, Rush Limbaugh, on his TV show years ago, said that Chelsea Clinton was the White Houe dog. So, Chelsea was made fun of by none other than the current de-facto head of the GOP. So much for that.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
He is part of the media that is in the tank for Obama.



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Furthermore, she didn't have a parent who used the fact the she was pregnant to pander for votes during an election run.



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 4):
Sarah Palin made her daughter fair game when she paraded her around the campaign trail and made an issue out of her pregnancy.

The man wins the Todd Palin Action Figure.

[Edited 2009-06-10 17:11:46]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4840 times:



Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 2):
I'm sure the usual players here will tie their party affiliation to whatever response they have...

Yes indeed:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
He is part of the media that is in the tank for Obama.

Predictable, really.  Yeah sure

The joke was in bad taste, though I'm not sure I'd go as far as this:

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
if anyone ever said this about my daughter , I would track them down and beat the living @!!x&;$%;#(!!! out of him or get hurt trying !.

That wouldn't really help anything.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7):
OK I saw the Obama daughters and Chelsy on the campaign trial .... let me get to writing up some smear crap about them.. please, its ..ridiculous .

The Obama daughters never really played a role in the campaign except for that puppy reference in the victory speech, which has found its way into the joke books. It's not really right, but it's the way life in the public eye is.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4833 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
The man wins the Todd Palin Action Figure.

Cool! You have no idea what I'm going to do with that doll.

 Smile


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10096 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4818 times:
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Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Do you think letterman went too far here ?

No.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
He is part of the media that is in the tank for Obama. Him, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, those idiots at MSNBC. Their agenda is simple, destroy anyone that may run in 2012' because their only goal is another 4 years for Obama.

Or maybe he's a TV host who is being a bit un-PC to get ratings.

Nah, couldn't be that.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 5):
She is a adult... she can defend herself.

Bristol Palin is an adult as well. And since Letterman didn't specify which daughter, I would automatically assume he was talking about Bristol.

Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 9):
It's another thing to say that Willow Palin, 14 years old, who was with Sarah at the Yankees game had sex with A-Rod is another. I like shocking, raw humor, but really how would a similar joke about Obama's daughter go down. There would be mass outrage everywhere including here. He's gonna get away with it, but it was absolutely classless.

Where, exactly, did he say Willow? The whole time I was listening, I assumed he was talking about Bristol, since he didn't specify.

Quoting D L X (Reply 12):
For what it's worth, the caption is wrong. He didn't say anything about Willow. In fact, he didn't say anything about Bristol by name either.

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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4808 times:



Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 16):

Where, exactly, did he say Willow? The whole time I was listening, I assumed he was talking about Bristol, since he didn't specify.

Willow Palin was the daughter that was with Sarah Palin at the Yankees game that Letterman was going on about. That led into the joke about her daughter being impregnated by A-Rod by the 7th inning. No, he didn't mention Bristol or Willow by name, but Willow was sitting right next to Sarah at the baseball game. Bristol was not there.



Quoting Mir (Reply 14):

The Obama daughters never really played a role in the campaign except for that puppy reference in the victory speech, which has found its way into the joke books. It's not really right, but it's the way life in the public eye is.

Neither did Bristol Palin. She wasn't making speeches for her mother at campaign stops. The media made Bristol Palin's pregnancy an issue. I'm sure Sarah would've preferred to have her daughter out of the front pages, but it was made a contentious issue.

Quoting D L X (Reply 12):
Palin exploited her daughter's pregnancy for political reasons. I'm upset that we're joking about something very serious about a person who should not be considered a public figure, but I'm also upset that Palin chose to exploit her.

Yeah, I'm sure Sarah couldn't wait to discuss her kid's pregnancy. You're upset that Sarah Palin decided to exploit Bristol. Spare me your phony outrage.

Anyway, what would happen if someone to say that Obama's kids looked like they should be over the bridge in Anacostia? Give me a break with the double standard here.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4801 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
Uh, Rush Limbaugh, on his TV show years ago, said that Chelsea Clinton was the White Houe dog. So, Chelsea was made fun of by none other than the current de-facto head of the GOP. So much for that.

Source?


User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4775 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
Source?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4766 times:



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 19):
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 18):
Source?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895

Your using a left wing reporter saying he said it as a source? That doesn't hold up in court. Post a transcript or audio please.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Apparently Letterman is making an apology for his poor taste comments as to Gov. Palin's daughter. I wonder if he will get some crappy service by 'slutty looking flight attendants' the next time he flys. Keith Oberman on his 'Countdown' programs also critized Letterman as well. I have never been a fan Letterman's humor, this confirms it.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

And, NIK, if you didn't have the patience to look it up, here's the quote on Chelsea from that article that is linked above:

MORE REALITY: Columnist Molly Ivins reported (Arizona Republic 10/17/93) this incident from Limbaugh's TV show--"Here is a Limbaugh joke: Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" And he puts up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Chelsea Clinton is 13 years old."


User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4760 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Your using a left wing reporter saying he said it as a source? That doesn't hold up in court. Post a transcript or audio please.

You can play these games all day long as far as I care. Run a search on Google and you'll come up with a multitude of hits on the subject.

Or, you can just believe whatever you want to believe.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4753 times:



Quoting MBMBOS (Reply 23):
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Your using a left wing reporter saying he said it as a source? That doesn't hold up in court. Post a transcript or audio please.

You can play these games all day long as far as I care. Run a search on Google and you'll come up with a multitude of hits on the subject.

Or, you can just believe whatever you want to believe.

He believes whatever will not challenge his conservative preconceptions. I clearly remember the incident. But he won't have the gonads to Google it, because he'll find out it's true.

Actually, NIK, I'll save you the trouble:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1882947,00.html


25 L-188 : I think it has been well known that Dave doesn't have any talent, which is why he lost the "Tonight Show" gig to Jay Leno 17 years ago. The fact that
26 WarRI1 : I think it was in poor taste, not funny. I think Letterman was guilty of using crude humor. We are all aware this is pretty common these days. Bad hum
27 L-188 : I think the writer and Dave needs to hope he doesn't bump into A-rod in a dark alley. I would be very upset at being accused of being a satatory rapi
28 DXing : Don't you think the writer and Letterman owed it to the Palins to make sure which daughter was at the game before making the joke in the first place?
29 Mirrodie : THis is the part where Nik bows out and doesn't respond, thereby conceding to your points. Letterman was crude but that is his job.
30 L-188 : Interesting I thought his job was to be funny. Apparently he leaves that part to Bif. That's no why he is appologizing, it is because of the stink, a
31 D L X : Oh please. As soon as it came out that Ms. Abstinence-Only's kid got knocked up, she jumped headlong into the opportunity to taut her pro-life bona f
32 Seb146 : So, a comedian, who makes jokes about politicians, ANY politician regardless of party affiliation, makes a crude joke about the sister of a girl who h
33 AGM100 : I dont really care ... I would work the the guy so hard if he said that about my daughter so that it that in my opinion . Its sick and letterman is a
34 Us330 : My bad--I thought I actually heard him say Willow, when clearly he didn't.
35 Post contains links JFK69 : There was a whole uproar during the campaign when an MSNBC reporter accused Hillary of "Pimping out Chelsea"....This caused a whole uproar and forced
36 D L X : Yup. And the reporter that said it was SUSPENDED. By that liberal rag, MSNBC at that. So, NIKV and JCS, you're clearly wrong. Your knee jerk argument
37 Aaron747 : There's no double standard. People, even talking heads in the media, should be able to tell it like it is. Letterman's reference, in certain poses an
38 AGM100 : Oh my ya that's unbiased ! I am going to send a email to limbaugh and find out about it. Anyway ... if he said it its wrong! .. period . President Cl
39 Post contains links and images Mirrodie : It is. But whether he crossed a line is debatable. Palin should have taken the higher road and ignored it. AGM, here's the deal: No you wouldn't. B/c
40 TylerDurden : Wow, Mr. Internet Tough Guy. Still working on those anger issues?
41 AGM100 : I don't have anger issues ... its called standing for what is right. And it would be great to see Mr. Palin do it ... that's what being a father and
42 Mirrodie : There's a difference between taking a stand for what is right and throwing off multiple references to "working the guy so hard" and "smacking" people
43 TylerDurden : If the only way you can do it is with violence---then that's certainly not being a man---that's being a caveman.
44 AGM100 : Well , what other way are you going to do it . Do you have daughters ? If you do , and you do not feel a little violent if some dumb-ass makes a joke
45 Czbbflier : I recall a number of years ago, Frank Magazine, a political satire mag from Ottawa, had a contest to see who could 'de-flower' Prime Minister Brian Mu
46 DXing : Because for a joke to have humor there has to be some kernal of truth to it. Since Bristol wasn't at the game, the joke falls flat right there. To cl
47 Planespotting : Kernel of truth? Fact checking? Are you serious? Why does a joke have to have truth or be fact checked? Late night monologue jokes are late night mon
48 DXing : When it involves a 14 year old it better be fact checked or you get the stink that this has produced But not the teenager that was at the ball game.
49 Mir : It's never appropriate to make fun of children just because of the way they look. And, to boot, she was 13 at the time. Limbaugh was out of line with
50 NIKV69 : Yea you right I mean what Rush said sure is as bad as making a joke about a 14 year old having sex with A-Rod? Letterman is a washed up left wing too
51 Mirrodie : My, what colorful useless verbage. Look, while you want to play the 'tough daddy' card, the truth is you wont and can't do anything about it. Let's p
52 Stlgph : i thought it was funny. i giggled. i love it. uh ... who cares if they weren't at the game? doesn't make a bit of difference in comedy writing. thanks
53 DXing : Uh...yeah it does, the joke ends up being on him since he didn't bother to check before insinuating a 14 year was knocked up. Thanks for defending th
54 Falcon84 : This is COMEDY, not news reporting. Fact-checking isn't required. Hell, Limbaugh is a genious at not checking facts, and I doubt that bothers you muc
55 Planespotting : STOP ACTING LIKE THERE IS SOME PROFESSIONAL CODE OF ETHICS FOR COMEDIANS. He's not writing for the NY Times or reporting for CNN. He told a joke. Jok
56 Stlgph : uh, sure. and you've never ever laughed at anything else that's been discussed in comedy. such as... The Simpsons Saturday Night Live Family Guy Rodn
57 TylerDurden : And apparently most of us are a bit more evolved than you.
58 StarAC17 : Yeah and then you would be seen as the bad guy, be charged with assault and then possibly hauled off to jail for that. No objective jury in any civil
59 D L X : There are two kernels of truth in it: 1) Sarah Palin's daughter got knocked up. It doesn't matter what her name is. 2) A-Rod was caught cheating. You
60 DXing : You're right and I don't like it when he does it either. Even the Mafia has the sense to leave the wife and kids alone. So you excuse jokes about 14
61 Vikkyvik : Gotcha, well that makes more sense regarding the caption. Still doesn't offend me. I wouldn't necessarily say it myself, but oh well. "Knocked up" do
62 Seb146 : Those of you defending Limbaugh: where was your outrage over his statement that he believes that Michael J Fox is faking his Parkensons? No one on the
63 Planespotting : Hmm - you kind of brought it back to the child issue, but then said something about a joke being checkable. Dude - don't you understand that THEY DON
64 D L X : I'm sure that's exactly what Letterman was thinking... [/sarcasm]
65 StarAC17 : He's in plenty of hot water because of the fact that this is a news story, he addressed it and it should be over with. I know that isn't enough for t
66 DXing : Oh yeah, people are condeming him all over. He danced around it for 8 minutes and never did admit they'd made a mistake.
67 LTBEWR : I wonder if Letterman is due for a 'vacation' soon. This may be a good time to take some time off, show reruns and rethink some of his humor.
68 DXing : Dead on target. Admit he screwed up, told a joke that was better left in the pre-production meeting, and then take a vacation.
69 L-188 : I agree with you completely-Signed Carlos Mencia. I think they might consider starting. I suspect Carlos will do a bit of a re-write before he steals
70 Planespotting : *head scratching*
71 L-188 : That's comedy.
72 FlyDeltaJets87 : Well CBS has done it again and shown their liberal bias full scale. I'm sure most of us remember a few weeks ago when CBS golf commentator and analyst
73 CPH-R : Newsflash, David Feherty was suggesting, heck promoting the assasination of the person second in line of presidential succession. David Letterman was
74 D L X : Conservatives, listen to yourselves!! You're getting into a fight with a comedian. That's one of many reasons why you're out of office. Palin needs to
75 Planespotting : Ahhhhhhhhhh! Do yourself and your floundering conservative cause a favor and actually bring real logic to an argument. (see all my previous posts for
76 N867DA : The joke was in very poor taste, but I think it's time someone stops playing the victim card.
77 JBirdAV8r : As a conservative... I think she should have just dropped it. I think she shouldn't have responded to it directly in any way, except for maybe a scath
78 Mir : She's got plenty of reasons to not be happy about it. But the more she keeps attacking Letterman, the worse she looks, since Letterman has delivered
79 FlyDeltaJets87 : He was not promoting the assassination of Pelosi and Reid; he was describing the feelings of many of the troops towards certain "leaders" in Washingt
80 Planespotting : Interesting distinction you make here about humor, and one that should be noted. See, many jokes depend on perception, rather than reality (or truth)
81 D L X : Curious: do the people that complain about "fact checking" complain about the joke about Al Gore inventing the internet?
82 Post contains links DXing : No matter how low she stays the liberal left will take any opportunity to drag her name to the forefront because for some strange reason they are app
83 StarAC17 : Give one example of a comedian joking about any thing or anyone on the left and get suspended and thrown off the air. You could easily use the same b
84 D L X : So, you gotta fact check for kids, but you don't have to fact check for adults? Or is it that you have to fact check for sex, but not about the inter
85 StarAC17 : Didn't she just right a book about liberals exploiting the victim card, that when she talked about it on one of our Toronto radio shows she made a lo
86 2707200X : Gov. Sarah Palin had the chance to take the high road on the tasteless joke that Letterman made, but in her own way she and Todd went to the lowest co
87 Vikkyvik : I think you missed DLX's point a bit. The joke could have been about Trig Palin, for all that it matters. All that mattered (from the joke's point of
88 DXing : ? Talk about twisted. So telling sexual jokes about a 14 year old girl who never asked to be in the spotlight is on the same level as about an attent
89 D L X : No dude, your whole thing on this thread has been about how Letterman should have fact checked his jokes, at which point he would have known that the
90 Columba : Agreed, you only can feel sorry for her kids. She did that before and will very likely do it again. The joke was not about Willow Palin - did you kno
91 DXing : It's correct because it is correct. The girl at the game was Willow, not Bristol and that's where the difference between just a poor joke and a truly
92 Zentraedi : Not when the "child" is an adult and has joined the political arena. Kinda scary when people portray their adult children as little babies that must
93 D L X : You're so willing to construe (misconstrue?) what Al Gore said as boasting that he invented the internet, but what Letterman said can't be "construed
94 EA CO AS : C'mon, both of you are smarter than that. Palin didn't 'make an issue' out of her pregnancy - the media got wind of the fact that her daughter was pr
95 Zentraedi : Looks like I messed up Reply 92. Quoted the wrong part of the message. Not when the "child" is an adult and has joined the political arena. Yes, Brist
96 MBMBOS : So instead of citing fact or making a solid argument you imply I am stupid. But the facts are there. Bristol and boyfriend were paraded around innume
97 LTBEWR : I previously commented here that Letterman needs to go on 'vacation' and do some thinking about some of his humor. He did a joke of questionable taste
98 Seb146 : Just curious: How much money has Sarah Palin raised for her political career because of her droaning on and on about this joke? Might I add that Lett
99 Mir : Do you actually think that Letterman knew that Willow was the one at the game when he made the joke? The intent was for the joke to be about Bristol,
100 StarAC17 : They better learn how to deal with late night comedians in the next four years because if she plans on running for the GOP nomination in 2012 the lat
101 EA CO AS : Actually, I said you're smarter than the argument you made. Because you are - it's just this one argument of yours that's moronic. Think for a minute
102 Post contains links DXing : Because Al Gore did a sloppy job of explaining himself and he is a publicity seeking adult male. What Letterman did was make a joke involving what tu
103 MBMBOS : So you think you've gotten away with name calling. Congratulations to you! You must be proud. Indeed I do. It would be simple minded of me to assume
104 Seb146 : Right. We got that. Not only David, but the writer of the joke made a mistake. But, He did apologize. Even though he was the one to only to voice the
105 EA772LR : Letterman's career, as well as his ratings are in the tank anyway, even worse than that flake Keith Olbermann's.
106 Yellowstone : Of course the joke was about Bristol. She's the Palin daughter who got knocked up; ergo, references to a Palin daughter getting knocked up refer to h
107 L-188 : I didn't hear Bristols name once. Dave said the daughter at the game. And that was Willow
108 Columba : Yes, but as Letterman made this joke he intented it to be about Bristol. She is the Palin daughter who got knocked up so the joke make only sense whe
109 DXing : Oh well, then he should have said Palins daughter Bristol by name. Instead, he and the writer, as I have said several times just assumed and got it w
110 Zentraedi : He DID apologize. Does he need to need to get down on his knees, grovel and beg for forgiveness?
111 Seb146 : Did you hear Willow's name? For that matter, did you hear any name? Geez, people! It was a freakin' joke! Why do we even have comedians if this is th
112 EA772LR : Well seeing as though Clinton was a wife-cheating womanizer, getting action even in the Oval Office, and lying under oath about it, I'd say any jokes
113 Yellowstone : He didn't, and shouldn't, have to, because anyone who hasn't been living under a rock for the past several months knows that references to a Palin ge
114 DXing : That was not an apology. That was an eight minute tap dance around how he doesn't make jokes (supposedly) about 14 year olds. This would be over if h
115 Yellowstone : The difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying is that you seem to think that the fact that Willow was there, and not Bristol, means t
116 L-188 : Lettermans joke was about Willow.-She was at the game. Anything else is left wing revisionism.
117 Post contains links DXing : Think all you want. The wording was pretty plain. If they had meant Bristol they either should have said so or worded it differently. At this point t
118 Post contains links D L X : Okay, now, they're about to picket outside the Letterman Show. Even after two unearned apologies. You guys are freaking ridiculous. http://politicalti
119 Yellowstone : Leno's writers had to specify which daughter because, prior to Bristol's pregnancy, a reference to a pregnant Palin daughter would have been ambiguou
120 BMI727 : Who? Pretty much. Letterman's joke was not that funny, and perhaps in bad taste, but not blatantly inappropriate. I think that Palin loves being rele
121 Dreadnought : Jeez, the depths that people will go through to somehow prove through symantics and warped logic to support their hatred for Palin. Look, Letterman ma
122 Yellowstone : Imus's comments also had a racial element to them, which probably had more to do with him getting fired than the sexual element.
123 Dreadnought : This comment was sexist. Prejudice and discrimination are supposed to be objected to right? Or is it only Prejudice against a certain group?
124 D L X : Jeez, the depths that people will go through to somehow prove through symantics and warped logic to support their love for Palin! Pot kettle black, D
125 Dreadnought : Did I chime in and demand an apology? No. I just sat back and waited for this to play out, shaking my head in wonder at times. So - are you saying th
126 Yellowstone : I don't recall the exact wording of Letterman's comments, but I think they were something along the lines of "her slutty flight attendant look." In w
127 Dreadnought : Oh, please, stop the parsing. You sound like Bill Clinton - "It depends of what the meaning of 'is' is".
128 EA772LR : (raises the right hand) "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Good 'Ole slick Willy. Back on topic, David Letterman has officially apolo
129 FlyDeltaJets87 : You can read Reply 72, as it was already given. Just as Feherety's joke was about how awful Pelosi and Reid are as national leaders. It's not like CB
130 StarAC17 : Yeah and he was fired for the same kind of outrage for a much worse remark and took CBS radio to court for wrongful dismissal. He won and was compens
131 Seb146 : That is a little different, though. Even though you are comparing entertainers, Limbaugh et al. tend to cut and paste and hand out what they want the
132 EA772LR : Is it also fair then to say that anyone who listens to the garbage coming out of Obama's mouth is one of his minions? You can't have it both ways.
133 Seb146 : There is a huge difference cutting three words out of a speech and basing all hatred of the Dems and Obama on those three words instead of listening
134 L-188 : Well it looks like Dave finally gave the appology that he should have given a week ago. Sorry for Dave I know his ego made that hard for him. But the
135 EA772LR : Seb146, while I may be a conservative, I by no means am a huge republican booster. I just happen to have almost nothing in common with liberal values
136 Cws818 : You don't seem to be one of Obama's "minions." Thus, it is fair to ask if you have heard anything he has had to say. That generalization is so sweepi
137 Yellowstone : So let me get this straight--it's wrong for me to interpret what Letterman said, because he automatically meant whatever supports your argument the m
138 D L X : Palin is a public figure. You know the standards are different (for better or for worse) for public figures. ???I I believe I said just the opposite.
139 StarAC17 : Feherety made a joke imply that military personnel would rather kill the speaker of the house that Bin Laden. Also he is a golf commentator and not a
140 FlyDeltaJets87 : Feherty's joke was about how much of the military view Pelosi and Reid. Do you really believe people in the military are now going to go out and kill
141 D L X : And KILLING them. Why do you leave that part out? That's what made it beyond the pale. As a serviceman, you should find that kind of joke reprehensib
142 Post contains links DXing : Well I had a few good days away but I see in my absence it took Letterman himself to square things away. http://www.usatoday.com/life/televis...-15-l
143 FlyDeltaJets87 : Really? Al and Jesse don't jump at every opportunity they can? Are you kidding me D L X? (Yes, that's a real question. I'm am honestly wondering if y
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