Qantasistheway From Australia, joined May 2008, 305 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1761 times:
Well it has finally happened! He is now set to move to Real for £80 million. I do think that there will be something missing in English football, even if most people can't wait to see the back of him.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10494 posts, RR: 20 Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
For those of us dummies, Cristiano Ronaldo isn't (the other) Ronaldo.
Boy, that's a lot of dosh Real is coming up with - CR + Kaka - where's it all coming from?
Bet the last Real chairman wished he got to spend so much money.
Aussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1611 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
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Be good to see how Kaka and Ronaldo go together in same side and whether they can next season compete with Barca,Not bad for La Liga aswell to have probably 3 best players in the World in their League at present.
The likes of Ribery,Benzema already being linked as replacements for Ronaldo...
GrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2518 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1742 times:
These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each.
"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
Qantasistheway From Australia, joined May 2008, 305 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each.
Wow! That's not biased at all. Real have wanted Ronaldo for a long time, and he has been at the heart of Man Utd's game for a while. Manchester United wouldn't have sold him for less because he is an important player. Kaka is certainly worth that money.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 10494 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1729 times:
Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 2): The likes of Ribery,Benzema already being linked as replacements for Ronaldo...
It sounds like Sir Alex will have UKP 80M to spend on restocking.
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each.
It's all about when they come onto the market, isn't it?
Seems like CR is coming on the market at the ideal time from ManUtd's point of view.
Not to say that La Liga won't be very interesting this year!
Ncfc99 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
Quoting Qantasistheway (Thread starter): I do think that there will be something missing in English football, even if most people can't wait to see the back of him.
I agree. I live near Manchester and I am surrounded by ManU fans everywhere. I like to watch their games for 2 reasons. One is to watch his fantastic skills, you never know when he will pull a bit of magic from his hat, the other is to enjoy giving their supporters a load of greif if he does something wrong, or a trick that dosen't come off.
the best moment I can remember about Ronaldo was the look on David James's face after he scored a free kick against him. He didn't utter a word but you could see him thinking, "How the **** am I supposed to save that"
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each.
I personnaly would not rate Kaka, Iniesta or Xavi as good as Ronaldo or Messi. I think those two are in a league of thier own.
TristarAtLCA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 570 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1634 times:
I think United must be laughing all the way to the bank. They pick up £80m for a player who didn't want to be there and was displaying more and more petulance on and off the field. Utterly ridiculous amount of money for a player who, IMHO, despite scoring his fair share of goals is certainly not the game breaker that amount of money should command.
I also wonder what Platini makes of this. He criticises the English game for the amount of money sloshing around the Premier league and then Real dump £130+ million on two players. I eagerly await his response.
If you was right..................I'd agree with you
JJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 10): I also wonder what Platini makes of this. He criticises the English game for the amount of money sloshing around the Premier league and then Real dump £130+ million on two players. I eagerly await his response
The debt figures for RM last summer were 560+ mil. euro.
I'd like to see how they look like by the start of next season.
BlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1600 times:
Let me be clear, I think both Real Madrid and Man U are losing out.
I think Man U made a mistake. They could have held out. They need a VERY good replacement for a winger, as Ronaldo scores at least 25% of Man U's goals.
Real Madrid?...you're going back to your Galacticos era, with too many good players....Ramos is going to have a hell of a time, handling Kaka, Ronaldo, Raul and Van Nistelrooy.
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each.
I like Barca too but I wouldn't rank Iniesta or Xavi that high....I would rank Messi higher then both Kaka or Ronaldo.
Quoting Revelation (Reply 5): It sounds like Sir Alex will have UKP 80M to spend on restocking.
Yes but who on the market can replace Ronaldo. I can only think of two people, and I don't think they'd be able to leave Barca or AC Milan at the moment.
TristarAtLCA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 570 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1592 times:
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13): .Ramos is going to have a hell of a time, handling Kaka, Ronaldo, Raul and Van Nistelrooy.
Ramos was replaced by Manuel Pellegrini June 1st.
If you was right..................I'd agree with you
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6296 posts, RR: 23 Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
Thank goodness this overpaid, melodramatic, spoilt fool is finally getting the hell out of my country. He may be a good footballer, but he's one of the most odious and loathesome characters in existence. Good riddance! Go and trip over daisies every two minutes and have your tantrums elsewhere!
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MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15747 posts, RR: 48 Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous.
Quoting Qantasistheway (Reply 4): Manchester United wouldn't have sold him for less because he is an important player. Kaka is certainly worth that money.
I don't understand how European (and American) politicians throw a temper tantrum when a CEO of company that actually produces things/employs people/creates wealth is paid a bonus yet don't even bat an eyelash for a person that plays with a ball.
TristarAtLCA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 570 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
Not sure what the huh? is about, but I was expecting the President of Uefa to say something as he appears to be on a fiscal discipline stance at the moment.
However he is living in fantasy land if he feels that clubs like RM, Man U etc will be banned from Europes premier tournament on the basis of debt. Reductions in TV rights revenue will probably kill the idea at fist base.
If you was right..................I'd agree with you
Fruitbat From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 547 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1547 times:
Quoting Revelation (Reply 5): It sounds like Sir Alex will have UKP 80M to spend on restocking.
I think that the owning Glazer family may have other plans for it - like paying down some of the debt they took on to buy the club a few years ago.......
From the Daily Telegraph, 18th March 2008
"Leading the way are Manchester United, whose owners, the Glazer family, refinanced borrowings of £660 million in 2006 to help pay for the club in their £800 million takeover in May 2005. According to figures released in January, United's pretax profits for the 12 months to June 30, 2007, were £42.28 million, only slightly more than their £42 million interest payments."
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7791 posts, RR: 23 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1536 times:
Real Madrid are paying silly amounts of money for players, no player is worth that amount of money, even if you're as good as Ronaldo or Kaka. From a financial perspective, Man Utd are doing a good piece of business, you simply can't say no to those figures. I dislike Ronaldo's petulance and the touch of arrogance and ego, but he's a phenomenal player. Man Utd's problem is finding a replacement, no one else in their team is a prolific goalscorer. But Arsenal moved on after Thierry Henry (greatest player ever to play in England most would agree) so Utd should be able to move on.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7696 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
What I find HIGHLY amusing about Real Madrid CF buying Ronaldo and Kaka in the transfer market for these totally silly sums is that the actions remind so much of the current New York Yankees in American Major League Baseball--the belief you can buy the best players to win a championship. How's that worked out for the Yankees so far this last decade?
In contrast, current "treble" champion FC Barcelona is like the Boston Red Sox--willing to spend, but also have vastly superior coaching and team chemistry.
RGElectra80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 358 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
Quoting RayChuang (Reply 20): In contrast, current "treble" champion FC Barcelona is like the Boston Red Sox--willing to spend, but also have vastly superior coaching and team chemistry.
Not to mention home-grown talent.
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JJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1466 times:
Quoting TristarAtLCA (Reply 17): Not sure what the huh? is about, but I was expecting the President of Uefa to say something as he appears to be on a fiscal discipline stance at the moment.
Some of the English public took previous remarks from Platini as an attack on English clubs, rather on foolish spending.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4933 posts, RR: 28 Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1465 times:
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 3): These amounts of money (65 million for Kaka, 95 million for Ronaldo) are absolutely ridiculous. If Kaka is worth 65 and Ronaldo 95, then Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are worth 150 each
Probably, but Barça won't let the go ... I'm sure Perez tested the market and asked around to see if Messi was availbale
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13): Real Madrid?...you're going back to your Galacticos era, with too many good players....Ramos is going to have a hell of a time, handling Kaka, Ronaldo, Raul and Van Nistelrooy.
Problem of the galacticos era was that everyone remembers the last part, forgetting that part of the galacticos did win 2 Champions Leagues
Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 19): Real Madrid are paying silly amounts of money for players, no player is worth that amount of money, even if you're as good as Ronaldo or Kaka. From a financial perspective
Everyone said the same when they got Zidane, who was a much older player and also very expensive (73 mill Euro!) ... but boy did he deliver!
But also from a finanial perspective, they will get a lot of revenue on sponsorships, selling jerseys, etc.
Not to mention that every tv station in the world will want to show Real's games.
The only thing I'm worried about is where did this money come from .. especially because there will be more players coming, and not cheap.
JJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1458 times:
Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 24): Problem of the galacticos era was that everyone remembers the last part, forgetting that part of the galacticos did win 2 Champions Leagues
Only 1. The Galácticos era started with Florentino bagging the election and getting Zidane on board.
They had just won the CL the previous year, but it was not a galactico victory. RM played with the likes of Morientes, Redondo, Raul, a very young Anelka, etc. Hardly galactico material.
All in all, Perez inherited a team that was already Euro champs, spent some silly amounts of money and all he got was 2 leagues and a CL in 6 years before leaving through the back door, leaving not a single penny from the huge real estate operation that was the ciudad deportiva affair and increasing his personal worth 6-fold on the 6 years he was at the helm.
Some people have very selective memory indeed.
25 MadameConcorde: I am asking myself the same question. Where is all this money coming from? Who is footing the bill? This is truly surrealistic in times of economic d
26 Thom@s: I think United made a pretty good deal. Ronaldo as a player will be difficult, if not impossible to replace, but considering they bought him for £12
27 EZEIZA: Forgetting Figo there ... the sequence was Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, Becks ... this time he got two of that level in a week! Raul was always considered
28 JJJ: I'm not saying it was a crap team (they won the CL) but was not what a Florentino-signature galactico team (big names, focus on attacking players, et
29 EZEIZA: I tend not to believe the constant BS they publish, in the same way I can't stand Sport. The bias is just too big for Real or Barca, but I still beli
30 JJJ: Actually the Ronaldo deal was signed by Calderon, and with all the uproar with 96 m. euro for Ronaldo and 76 for Kaka means Valencia is now asking mo
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