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2009 F1 : British Grand Prix  
User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3261 times:

Couldn't see that this had been started yet so thought I'd kick it off.

Definitely time for a different winner other than Button (and Vettel for that matter - he's young so he's got heaps of time to win more) so hopefully one of the others will find some extra pace or the Brawns will strike trouble and we'll finally have some variety this year.


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2825 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

Strangely, I don't see anyone else winning than Button. It's his home GP and I'm sure he will want to do his utmost to win it.

I read on the Spanish press that Renault have big expectations on the British GP. They believe that the track will suit well the R29. Hopefully it will.

Bourdais finished second of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, which was a huge disappointment for him (and his teammates Sarrazin and Montagny). On Sunday around 5 AM, Peugeot asked him to stay second while he was catching up the #9 sister car like a bullet. A victory at Le Mans would have probably boosted his confidence for this week-end's GP, but now, I'm afraid he will come heart-broken.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12567 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3225 times:
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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 1):
Strangely, I don't see anyone else winning than Button.

Agreed.  yes 

I'm not even sure he's been pushed hard so far this season. Without a mechanical breakdown (or some British "summer" weather), I honestly can't see anyone getting close. He's going to be determined to pay back his fans at his home GP.  checkeredflag 



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User currently onlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Button should get a podium if not the win. I do believe if he wins, it will be his proudest achievement in Formula one to date, winning his home grand prix. Wouldn't rule out Hamilton competing this weekend...


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but this should be a piece of cake for Button. I'd wish that Vettel would try to get his second victory, but there are too many strategic flaws on the side of his team, plus the recent errors that he's made cost him dearly as well.

User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

Honestly I have lost all interest in F1 as of lately and I would not bother watching this GP, I will probably go to the beach or something and enjoy summer...

I suppose it will be business as usual, you know Button, Barrichello, Vettel, etc.

Nothing new.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

If this was the "old" Silverstone circuit (pre major modifications) I'd say we were in for a different winner. However as its now a "Mickey Mouse" Silverstone circuit I would reluctantly agree that the trend established thus far this season will continue with maybe the outside chance that Ferrari can pull something out of the hat and be competitive. Of course being Australian one would like the King of Fifth to have a chance but that would be putting the mockers on him so I won't say anything (more).


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3175 times:



Quoting Tsv (Reply 6):
Of course being Australian one would like the King of Fifth to have a chance but that would be putting the mockers on him so I won't say anything (more).

Be VERY careful, he is well overdue for his DNF. But you never know, second the last time was it?


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10898 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

I want Lewis Hamilton to win the British GP.
He will be on his home ground too.

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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3162 times:

Meh, its going be be another Button show. If he doesn't win then probably Vettel or even Webber (who might actually win a race for once).

McLaren aren't expecting much ...

McLaren is bracing itself for a tough time at Silverstone this weekend, with the high-speed swoops of the Northamptonshire track expected to expose the downforce deficiencies of the MP4-24.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76251

I'm not expecting much from Ferrari also and I won't be watching the race anyway as I have an exam on Tuesday  Sad



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User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3142 times:



Quoting Baroque (Reply 7):
Be VERY careful, he is well overdue for his DNF. But you never know, second the last time was it?

If you would have used two "VERY"'s in that sentence an Elmer Fud voice over (as done by Robin Williams of course) would have sounded very funny.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 9):
or even Webber (who might actually win a race for once).

Shhhhh! Quiet!



Too much talk of Webber will have people working out how long it's been since the last Grand Prix win by an Australian. (Yes I know Jones at Caesars Palace in 1981.)



Woo hoo! Australia has just scored again against Japan. Now lead 2-1.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

Me thinks this is a sure win for Button. Would be good to see an upset, maybe some one can turn on the British weather and spring a surprise.

User currently offlineRsg85 From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days ago) and read 3072 times:



Quoting Baroque (Reply 7):
Be VERY careful, he is well overdue for his DNF

Red Bull seems to have sorted thier reliability issues but still the only way Webber could win is if Brawn decides not to turn up for the weekend and vettel falls asleep for a lep, i dont believe webber has it in him to get a race win before his career ends


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days ago) and read 3070 times:

as long as anything doesn't happen to his car...Button will have this victory.

He's still boring though :-P


There just isn't an F1 thread without this comment  Smile

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
Go Hammy World Champion MBE!



User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3065 times:



Quoting Tsv (Reply 10):
If you would have used two "VERY"'s in that sentence an Elmer Fud voice over (as done by Robin Williams of course) would have sounded very funny.

My wascally wabbits seem to have been laid low by the swine flu or something, so my Elmer Fudd voice needs a bit of exercise!!

Quoting Rsg85 (Reply 12):
webber has it in him to get a race win before his career ends

He probably does and would have done by now barring a few breakdowns, I think!!!

I will bet Button wishes it was going to be as easy as some are assuming. Nothing is easy in F1.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

I say "a walk in the park" for Brawn/Button.

Hm, these threads have lost it a bit as many are losing interest in the sport, and is not participating in these threads anymore.
I even miss the days when the discussions were running hot here about the drivers/teams.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

Definately needs either it's own thread...or in the General Issues.

The FOTA teams say they are breaking away for 2010!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8108488.stm


That's a huge middle finger to Mosley.


User currently offlineKCmike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

Its about time if you ask me. F1 has been turning into global nascar.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3018 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
The FOTA teams say they are breaking away for 2010!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...8.stm

And the big question: What will be the name of this new F1 series? GP1 perhaps?

Oh well, next year it's Williams, Force India, Campos, USF1 and Manor racing for a then worthless F1 title, while RBR, Toro Rosso, Ferrari, Brawn GP, Renault, Toyota, BMW Sauber and McLaren decide on a name for this series.  Wink

Seriously though, while I'm not sure if FOTA's plan for their independent F1 series will be viable, I did expect that eventually FOTA would not back down and decide on a new series, ending 59 years of Formula 1 (which since the late 1990's has become boring and overregulated).


User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

The FOTA teams have one big problem with a break away series there wont be many circuits they can race at probably Silverstone Magney Cors and Montreal as these aren't contracted to FOM anymore

[Edited 2009-06-19 00:21:13]


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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2985 times:



Quoting Sudden (Reply 15):
Hm, these threads have lost it a bit as many are losing interest in the sport, and is not participating in these threads anymore.
I even miss the days when the discussions were running hot here about the drivers/teams.

Yes I have noticed that, maybe we got fed up of all the scandals or just decided to have a life Big grin

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
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Quoting T1210s (Reply 19):
The FOTA teams have one big problem with a break away series there wont be many circuits they can race at probably Silverstone Magney Cors and Montreal as these aren't contracted to FOM anymore

There are many tracks that could hold a world class motor race that are not contracted to FOM.
Look at some of the great circuits in the US for example and there are many in Europe that could be available.

Back to this weekend as there is another thread to discuss the politics...
Upgrade for the Red Bulls, wonder if it moves them closer to the Brawns or not, obviously that is the intent but it will be interesting to watch and McLaren experimenting with no KERS.

Cheers



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10898 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2976 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
There just isn't an F1 thread without this comment

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
Go Hammy World Champion MBE!

I doubt he will make the title this year as McLaren have supplied him with the wrong car, yet I always like to encourage him. I am sure he would still be ahead if he had the right car.  airplane   angel   airplane 



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2825 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2964 times:



Quoting Sudden (Reply 15):
Hm, these threads have lost it a bit as many are losing interest in the sport, and is not participating in these threads anymore.

I'm on holidays, so I'm not in front of the computer that much  Wink

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 16):
The FOTA teams say they are breaking away for 2010!!!

Another threat? Or a serious plan?

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 21):
Look at some of the great circuits in the US for example and there are many in Europe that could be available.

Indeed. Road America, Road Atlanta, Mosport, Brands Hatch, Zolder, Dijon, all these tracks are really nice and spectacular.



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User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

The good thing for me is that if they actually stage this series as they say they intend to, they'll IMO run on the Montreal circuit again, which would allow me to attend an F1.... errr, GP race again next year after this year's cancellation. As for this weekend's race, looks like Red Bull have the legs so far in practice, to go along with their new and IMO very ugly nose on the car. Same idea as the Renault, very wide duckbill sort of nose with a clear wing shape on the end of it, big change from the narrow snout they were sporting so far this season, but if it works and it allows us to have a more exciting championship, then it's the most beautiful thing on the grid  Smile


25 Tsv : Well the Bikes have MotoGP, and there is A1GP, so along those lines what about AutoGP? Yes must admit the "original" nose looked the part but if this
26 Tsv : Actually just on the topic of noses have a look a last year's McLaren nose and this year's McLaren nose. This year's nose looks decidedly "on the nose
27 Sudden : I actually start to think that you DO have a life! Aim for the sky! Sudden
28 MadameConcorde : If someone can come up with a link so I can watch the GP qualifyings and race on the www I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks a lot in advance.
29 Boeing74741R : There's also Jerez, Imola, Buenos Aries, Indianapolis, Estoril, EuroSpeedway Lausitz, Rockingham, Laguna Seca, the new track in the Algarve at Portim
30 LTU932 : Well, Hockenheim could lose its place as F1 track, so that's an option. I once saw on an Argentinian sports channel that Bernie is interessted in get
31 Tsv : There are some links in the British Grand Prix Qualifying Discussion on the Forum on the King of Fifth's website. Don't know if they work though as h
32 Bill142 : justin.tv or rojadirecta.com From what I've seen the Red Bulls look fast this weekend. Could we see a second win of the season for Vettel? Maybe Webb
33 MadameConcorde : Where are all the forum tifosi? Sutil crashed.. Looked like the car was in pretty bad shape.
34 Tsv : It's just started on OneHD in Australia. Weather looks typically British!
35 MadameConcorde : I am so terribly disappointed... with the Ferraris way in the back not talking about the McLarens. I don't know what's the matter with Hammy and if th
36 Tsv : Looked really bad but he's out and walking around thank goodness.
37 EZEIZA : Tired having the two-month oldkeeping me up all night I missed the quali but just saw the result ... at this point I am more surprised that Button is
38 Cpd : Doubtful. McLaren appear to be too slow. Redbull look untouchable this weekend - both cars are fast. Terrible Raikkonen blocking Webber on a fast qua
39 CXB77L : What's with Hamilton? 19th??? I'm glad that Vettel is on pole, however. I hope he wins tomorrow, the Button show is getting a little monotonous. I don
40 StealthZ : In his defence, whilst his early Q1 was not exacly stellar he appeared to be on a reasonable lap when Sutil crashed and red flag left only 24sec left
41 Tsv : He let him have it at the post Qualifying top 3 interviews too - something about what was he doing drinking Vodka or something! Actually I don't know
42 Post contains links and images Codeshare : Looks like another boring race coming up. However Vettel is the heaviest in the Top 10. So it will be up to the others to make a good start to beat hi
43 Swissy : CS, thanks for posting the weights.... always interesting. I personally think we will see a far better race compare to the last one...... Do not quest
44 Tsv : Yes he has now competed in more GPs than Jones and has yet to win whereas Jones won 13 didn't he? It's hard to compare careers what with the huge dif
45 Bill142 : Had Williams not fallen out with BMW things could have been very different.
46 Tsv : Yep that's what I mean it all fell apart. Anyone know if the One HD coverage is live or delayed? Qualifying seemed delayed given it took about an hour
47 Bill142 : Live I would hope. I don't know what reality crap they could put on to delay it. But it is ch 10 after all. Shame we don't get it here at all in Canb
48 StealthZ : TSV, Not sure where in QLD you are but the BGP Pre race show is scheduled for 21:00 in Brisbane and the race itself at 21:50 which would make it live.
49 Tsv : What a Bummer. I know people up north were pissed OneHD hadn't kicked off and the IPL 20/20 was only on it so they missed out big time. In Brisvegas.
50 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Why not try to watch the race live on the internet. There are some channels that broadcast every GP not as ideal as TV but it works and at least you
51 Swissy : You did already!!! ...... was exposed to F1 since I was born because my G-pa was involved for a long time with F1 because of Esso in the 50's & early
52 MadameConcorde : Kimi and Massa are doing well. They had a good start. Hammy has a light fuel load. Let's see how this will go. Nakajima is 4th.
53 MadameConcorde : Bourdais hit Kovalainen saw parts of the cars flying off, Bourdais had to pit and Kovalainen kept going. Looks like Bourdais has given up. He is done
54 MadameConcorde : Vettel won. Well dieserved first place. I thought that Massa would make the podium. I was wrong. Honestly I thought this race was rather boring overal
55 Tsv : Must say the TV coverage was a bit disappointing. Concentrating on freight trains down the pecking order is a bit silly although in their defence at t
56 Sudden : Congrats to Vettel, and.....that basically covers it I guess. Aim for the sky! Sudden
57 EZEIZA : Congrats to Vettel! That's domination right there! Apart from the non existent "fight" for first place, I have to say this race was a bit more excitin
58 MadameConcorde : It wasn't you. It was the pace and I thought it was quite fast. I really thought Massa was going to do a podium. His Brazilian mate went up there ins
59 NA : I really didnt want to watch this race after that extremely boring Turkish GP, but then a thunderstorm spoiled my plans for today so I ended up in fr
60 Photopilot : Former F1 venues including Buenos Aires, Mexico City, Jerez, Imola, Montreal, Indianapolis, Silverstone, Magny Cours and Adelaide were listed on the
61 NA : I think in the end F1 will stay, with Ferrari and the other FOTA teams. Bernie and Mosley will give in, otherwise its their death. They have no choic
62 MadameConcorde : Napoleon on wheels. Oh... I had a really good laugh! I so much wish that he and Max would leave F1.
63 Codeshare : After the race, so what do we have? Red Bull did a good job with the 'B' specs car. Button had an average drive, strange a bit, Rubens was bette this
64 Post contains links LTU932 : Here's the possible schedule according to the SID (along with GP names that are mostly designations we know from previous races): 07.March: Buenos Ai
65 EZEIZA : now I definitely want this to happen!!! March 7th .... OMG!!!
66 Kent350787 : It's difficult to see Adelaide in there for Nov, given the Clipsal 500 kicks off the touring car season in March - closing down the city twice in a ye
67 BlueElephant : Hello all I didn't get to watch the race, and didn't have a chance to read all the posts. But I gotta say...I'm pretty convinced that Button maybe a g
68 Post contains links Zak : you guys should watch more motogp, there is actually some fighting for the 1st place there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkswz0SW8Y&feature=related
69 Tsv : I would have though Adelaide is always closed down and only opens for Motor Racing. The Queensland Government would have to break the contract with A
70 Bill142 : Maybe that planned upgrade of Eastern Creek in Sydney will get the go ahead and will attract Formula One. A number of circuits on that list would pro
71 Andaman : According to the Finnish news the timetable has come as a surprise for Finnish organizers... But, it would be a big success for sure, all motor sport
72 Post contains links Sudden : The Stig revealed on Top Gear, and it's Schumi. This explains a few things as Schumi was the Stig at Silverstone yesterday (One would assume), and was
73 BlueElephant : Schumi was only on so he could drive his FXX around the Top Gear track. It's not even a road legal car I think.
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