CannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1234 times:
NORML is apparently beginning a huge campaign (just in time for 4/20) with a quote from the Mayor of New York City emblazoned accross the top, and the Mayor (Mr. Bloomberg) is pissed. So I have a 2-part question-do you think it is right for NORML use the mayor without the mayors approval, and what is your opinion of marijuana in general?
From my little corner of the world, I think Mr. Bloomberg, though unhappy, can't really do much about it. As a public figure he has no choice but to allow his words and visage to be used however NORML wants. In becoming mayor of New York City he resigned himself to such a fate.
Regarding marijuana, I believe it should be legalized. I smoke it every so often, as do many of my friends. From my point of view there are so many smokers out there, and the laws regarding it have become so ridiculous, that I think the government may eventually have no choice but to legalize it. Ideally the government would allow small amounts to be possessed and smoked in non-public areas. It seems to me as though the Western world in general is relaxing-I hear that in Vancouver it's already pretty much legal, and that Britain is less than 5 years away from decriminalization (correct me if I'm wrong).
I Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1136 times:
The Mayor is not pissed, don't know where you heard that. The version I heard was "I respect the right to free speech and freedom of press, and since I did say that quote I have no problems taking the repercussions from it" ... he doesn't sound pissed. As for the pot, it should be regulated. I can't see why it is illegal when cigarettes and alcohol are legal.
Mcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1122 times:
"I'm not thrilled," said Bloomberg at a City Hall news conference on Monday when asked about his depiction in the campaign, adding that First Amendment laws probably would prevent him from stopping the ads.
CVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 1092 times:
Didn't something similar happen to Guliani. I think I remember hearing, secondhand though, that an environmentalist group put his picture up on a billboard with the phrase "got prostate cancer" underneath it. Where did this actually happen? If I remember correctly Guliani was pretty ticked off.
Zeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 1087 times:
Its funny how the burnout kids always claim that its not bad. They say it does nothing. Yea right.
YOu don't find honor studnets who screw themselves up with stuff like that. It won't ever be legal in the US. Buying drugs only supports bad things, such as terrorism. So why don't you just go give money to Al Qeuda instead? Or howabout the drug dealer that murdered someones mother or father? With drugs, comes dependence, then comes poverty then comes a poor society.
Sophiemaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 1082 times:
You don't find honor students who smoke marijuana? Try doctors, lawyers, business owners. Are these people burnouts? Yeah dude, you DO find honor students who do it and honorable professionals. But they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say they do it in public. It should be legal. If Nyquil is legal than so should be marijuana.
Zeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1075 times:
Your simple mind. Sure there are proffesionals who have done this or do it. But you don't really know. But its not to common.
There arn't pot heads at any schools ive been to that can compete acedemically or physically with the rest of us. THe AMA has put out study after study about how its decreases neurons in the cerebral cortex and its devestating physical effects. Thats what gives the pot heads the allusion that its ok and also what gives them there rather stoned glossy look. Its a drug. You get addicted, it messes you up. Just because you think its ok, doesn't mean it is. YOu arn't the deciding factor.
Sxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1071 times:
Well i go to a prep school and almost all my friends smoke pot and 90 % of them are honor students while the other 5% are high honor. I dont think weed plays a role in weither someone is sucsessful in life or not. I think it is based more on the enviroment they grow up in and the kind of family support they have.
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1067 times:
To all the people who believe marijuana is safe and gives you no problems, read:
The short-term effects of marijuana include:
-problems with memory and learning;
-distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch);
-trouble with thinking and problem-solving;
-loss of coordination; and
-increased heart rate, anxiety, panic attacks.
These risks are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana; and users do not always know what drugs are given to them.
One of the biggest hazards of marijuana for teens is this: The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If you're high on marijuana, you are more likely to make stupid mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose energy and lose interest in how you look and how you're getting along at school or work. In addition, there is a strong link between drug use and unsafe sex and the spread of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
Findings so far show that regular use of marijuana or THC may play a role in some kinds of cancer and in problems with the respiratory, immune, and reproductive systems.
Cancer - It's hard to know for sure whether regular marijuana use causes cancer. But is known that marijuana smoke contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals as tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.
Lungs and airways - People who smoke marijuana often tend to develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have. They suffer frequent coughing, phlegm production, and wheezing, and they tend to have more chest colds than non-users.
Immune system - Animal studies have found that THC can damage the cells and tissues that help protect people from disease.
Reproductive system - Heavy use of marijuana can affect both male and female hormones. Young men could have delayed puberty because of THC effects. Young women may find the drug disturbs their monthly cycle (ovulation and menstrual periods).
THC disrupts the nerve cells in the part of the brain where memories are formed. This makes it hard to the user to recall recent events, and so it is hard to learn while high. A working short-term memory is required for learning and performing tasks that call for more than one or two steps.
Some studies show that when people have smoked large amounts of marijuana for years, the drug takes its toll on mental functions. Researchers are still learning about the many ways that marijuana affects the brain.
While not everyone who uses marijuana becomes addicted, when a user begins to feel that he or she needs to take the drug to feel well, that person is said to be dependent or addicted to the drug. About 100,000 people seek treatment for marijuana use each year, showing they need help to stop using.
Some frequent, heavy users of marijuana develop a tolerance for it. “Tolerance” means that the user needs larger doses of the drug to get the same desired results that he or she used to get from smaller amounts.
Now, to all potheads and marijuana supporters, who should people trust more, you or the Surgeon General?
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1057 times:
Ok, you and I seem to agree on a lot. Have a good night.
Also, one more note to this subject:
A few weeks ago, two people I knew from work were killed in a car accident, by a driver that was drunk, and had a lit joint in the car beside him. He survived somehow, and now will probably be in prison the rest of his life. I bet he's thinking to himself,
"Gee, if only I didn't use drugs and drink and drive, I would have a life, and that man and woman would still be alive."
BTW, the people who were killed were on their way to pick up their 2 year old daughter from Daycare.
Now, that daughter is gonna be raised by complete strangers, and she be affected like this for the rest of her life.
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 10722 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
Yeah dude, you DO find honor students who do it and honorable professionals. But they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say they do it in public.
There are many students and professionals in this country who use cocane but don't admit it. Should we legalize that too?
Yes, pot causes breathing problems just like tobacco. My ex smoked EVERY DAY even at work and he could not use his albuterol inhaler enough. I smoke tobacco (only a pack a week) and I don't have breathing problems yet.
ONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 576 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
At this rate in California cigarrettes are going to be illegal and weed is going to become legalized. Well at least those tools doing to "truth" commercials will have something else to whine about. I can already see the headlines in tomorrows newpapers.... Potheads sue "Big Marijuana" for ill effects caused for smoking weed.
Dragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 7 Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1011 times:
Personally I think anyone who does drugs is an idiot and are choosing to mess up their lives for a very stupid reason. The only good I could see coming out of legalizing MJ is if the government taxed the hell out of it. That would sure help us get out of the recession we are in, but I still don't think its a good idea. I have the perfect evidence that Marijuana messes you up. Anybody remember our friend Bombstar???? Enough said
PH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 997 times:
In the Netherlands marijuana is legal.(well, it is not legal but you won't be arrested for it or something like that). But NWA742 and Zeus01, I have NEVER heard any story about people getting seriously sick after using marijuana in the Netherlands(and I can assure you that a lot of people use it here). I have never used it and I probably never will, but I can reassure you that smoking weed or marijuana is not more hazardous then smoking cigarettes. Marijuana can be dangerous if you can not handle the effects of it or if you use it in hazardous combinations or amounts(just like alcohol!), but just saying that marijuana will get you into healthproblems is just not true.
Zeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 974 times:
Go to the AMA's webiste and look for yourself. ITs a known fact among the medical community that is causes problems. Only the uninformed say things like its not bad for you. Or those who are living in denial of it.
PH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 967 times:
it causes problems yes I agree, so does alcohol and smoking cigarettes! I did not say it is not hazardous, but the risks of using marijuana is not as big as you pretend it to be. If marijuana would cause seriouse diseases I can assure you it would have been never legalised here in the Netherlands.
And, here in the Netherlands we don't live in denial of it since it has been legalised so I don't get your point. And secondly I am not unimformed. Just to show you how dangerous marijuana really is, here is some information:
Annual American deaths caused by drugs:
All legal drugs 20000
All illegal drugs 10000