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User currently offlineCannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

NORML is apparently beginning a huge campaign (just in time for 4/20) with a quote from the Mayor of New York City emblazoned accross the top, and the Mayor (Mr. Bloomberg) is pissed. So I have a 2-part question-do you think it is right for NORML use the mayor without the mayors approval, and what is your opinion of marijuana in general?

From my little corner of the world, I think Mr. Bloomberg, though unhappy, can't really do much about it. As a public figure he has no choice but to allow his words and visage to be used however NORML wants. In becoming mayor of New York City he resigned himself to such a fate.

Regarding marijuana, I believe it should be legalized. I smoke it every so often, as do many of my friends. From my point of view there are so many smokers out there, and the laws regarding it have become so ridiculous, that I think the government may eventually have no choice but to legalize it. Ideally the government would allow small amounts to be possessed and smoked in non-public areas. It seems to me as though the Western world in general is relaxing-I hear that in Vancouver it's already pretty much legal, and that Britain is less than 5 years away from decriminalization (correct me if I'm wrong).
Regards,
Zach

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User currently offlineI Like To Fly From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1188 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

The Mayor is not pissed, don't know where you heard that. The version I heard was "I respect the right to free speech and freedom of press, and since I did say that quote I have no problems taking the repercussions from it" ... he doesn't sound pissed. As for the pot, it should be regulated. I can't see why it is illegal when cigarettes and alcohol are legal.

User currently offlineMcringring From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

"I'm not thrilled," said Bloomberg at a City Hall news conference on Monday when asked about his depiction in the campaign, adding that First Amendment laws probably would prevent him from stopping the ads.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=579&ncid=762&e=1&u=/nm/20020409/en_nm/life_bloomberg_pot_dc

Sounds unhappy about it to me...


User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1247 times:


Anyone remember when Pres Clinton got pissed (rightfully so in my opinion) for his unintended role in the movie 'Contact'?


User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

Didn't something similar happen to Guliani. I think I remember hearing, secondhand though, that an environmentalist group put his picture up on a billboard with the phrase "got prostate cancer" underneath it. Where did this actually happen? If I remember correctly Guliani was pretty ticked off.

User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

Its funny how the burnout kids always claim that its not bad. They say it does nothing. Yea right.

YOu don't find honor studnets who screw themselves up with stuff like that. It won't ever be legal in the US. Buying drugs only supports bad things, such as terrorism. So why don't you just go give money to Al Qeuda instead? Or howabout the drug dealer that murdered someones mother or father? With drugs, comes dependence, then comes poverty then comes a poor society.



User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

I smoke it every so often, as do many of my friends.

I did 2 or 3 times last year (during hitch hiking), when everything was F..ked up.

Not using it anymore.


User currently offlineSophiemaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

You don't find honor students who smoke marijuana? Try doctors, lawyers, business owners. Are these people burnouts? Yeah dude, you DO find honor students who do it and honorable professionals. But they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say they do it in public. It should be legal. If Nyquil is legal than so should be marijuana.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1229 times:

Sad to see all the potheads in America addicted to drugs that will eventually f*ck them up in life.

User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1226 times:

Are you a pothead, Focker?


My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Sophie,

Your simple mind. Sure there are proffesionals who have done this or do it. But you don't really know. But its not to common.
There arn't pot heads at any schools ive been to that can compete acedemically or physically with the rest of us. THe AMA has put out study after study about how its decreases neurons in the cerebral cortex and its devestating physical effects. Thats what gives the pot heads the allusion that its ok and also what gives them there rather stoned glossy look. Its a drug. You get addicted, it messes you up. Just because you think its ok, doesn't mean it is. YOu arn't the deciding factor.


User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1220 times:

Well i go to a prep school and almost all my friends smoke pot and 90 % of them are honor students while the other 5% are high honor. I dont think weed plays a role in weither someone is sucsessful in life or not. I think it is based more on the enviroment they grow up in and the kind of family support they have.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

To all the people who believe marijuana is safe and gives you no problems, read:

The short-term effects of marijuana include:


-problems with memory and learning;
-distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch);
-trouble with thinking and problem-solving;
-loss of coordination; and
-increased heart rate, anxiety, panic attacks.

These risks are even greater when other drugs are mixed with the marijuana; and users do not always know what drugs are given to them.


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More hazards:

One of the biggest hazards of marijuana for teens is this: The drug can make you mess up in school, in sports or clubs, or with your friends. If you're high on marijuana, you are more likely to make stupid mistakes that could embarrass or even hurt you. If you use marijuana a lot, you could start to lose energy and lose interest in how you look and how you're getting along at school or work. In addition, there is a strong link between drug use and unsafe sex and the spread of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

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Findings so far show that regular use of marijuana or THC may play a role in some kinds of cancer and in problems with the respiratory, immune, and reproductive systems.

Cancer - It's hard to know for sure whether regular marijuana use causes cancer. But is known that marijuana smoke contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals as tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day.

Lungs and airways - People who smoke marijuana often tend to develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have. They suffer frequent coughing, phlegm production, and wheezing, and they tend to have more chest colds than non-users.

Immune system - Animal studies have found that THC can damage the cells and tissues that help protect people from disease.

Reproductive system - Heavy use of marijuana can affect both male and female hormones. Young men could have delayed puberty because of THC effects. Young women may find the drug disturbs their monthly cycle (ovulation and menstrual periods).


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THC disrupts the nerve cells in the part of the brain where memories are formed. This makes it hard to the user to recall recent events, and so it is hard to learn while high. A working short-term memory is required for learning and performing tasks that call for more than one or two steps.

Some studies show that when people have smoked large amounts of marijuana for years, the drug takes its toll on mental functions. Researchers are still learning about the many ways that marijuana affects the brain.


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While not everyone who uses marijuana becomes addicted, when a user begins to feel that he or she needs to take the drug to feel well, that person is said to be dependent or addicted to the drug. About 100,000 people seek treatment for marijuana use each year, showing they need help to stop using.

Some frequent, heavy users of marijuana develop a tolerance for it. “Tolerance” means that the user needs larger doses of the drug to get the same desired results that he or she used to get from smaller amounts.



Now, to all potheads and marijuana supporters, who should people trust more, you or the Surgeon General?






User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

Way to go NWA742!!! ARn't we just on a ball tonight!

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Zeus01, yep we sure are! I wonder when the rumors about us being the same person are gonna start.

User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1207 times:

lol, im going to bed. maybe we can fight injustice tomorrow.

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

Ok, you and I seem to agree on a lot. Have a good night.


Also, one more note to this subject:

A few weeks ago, two people I knew from work were killed in a car accident, by a driver that was drunk, and had a lit joint in the car beside him. He survived somehow, and now will probably be in prison the rest of his life. I bet he's thinking to himself,

"Gee, if only I didn't use drugs and drink and drive, I would have a life, and that man and woman would still be alive."

BTW, the people who were killed were on their way to pick up their 2 year old daughter from Daycare.

Now, that daughter is gonna be raised by complete strangers, and she be affected like this for the rest of her life.

Just something to think about...... Sad


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11801 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

Yeah dude, you DO find honor students who do it and honorable professionals. But they sure as hell aren't going to come out and say they do it in public.
There are many students and professionals in this country who use cocane but don't admit it. Should we legalize that too?
Yes, pot causes breathing problems just like tobacco. My ex smoked EVERY DAY even at work and he could not use his albuterol inhaler enough. I smoke tobacco (only a pack a week) and I don't have breathing problems yet.



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 591 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

At this rate in California cigarrettes are going to be illegal and weed is going to become legalized. Well at least those tools doing to "truth" commercials will have something else to whine about. I can already see the headlines in tomorrows newpapers.... Potheads sue "Big Marijuana" for ill effects caused for smoking weed.


"The world is run by C students"-Harry Truman
User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

Personally I think anyone who does drugs is an idiot and are choosing to mess up their lives for a very stupid reason. The only good I could see coming out of legalizing MJ is if the government taxed the hell out of it. That would sure help us get out of the recession we are in, but I still don't think its a good idea. I have the perfect evidence that Marijuana messes you up. Anybody remember our friend Bombstar???? Enough said  Wink/being sarcastic

--dragogoalie-#88--



Formerly known as Jap. Srsly. AUSTRALIA: 2 days!
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1153 times:

Lol, I remember Bombstar. That was one fucked up kid.

User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

In the Netherlands marijuana is legal.(well, it is not legal but you won't be arrested for it or something like that). But NWA742 and Zeus01, I have NEVER heard any story about people getting seriously sick after using marijuana in the Netherlands(and I can assure you that a lot of people use it here). I have never used it and I probably never will, but I can reassure you that smoking weed or marijuana is not more hazardous then smoking cigarettes. Marijuana can be dangerous if you can not handle the effects of it or if you use it in hazardous combinations or amounts(just like alcohol!), but just saying that marijuana will get you into healthproblems is just not true.

PH-BFA



User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1123 times:

PH_BFA-

Go to the AMA's webiste and look for yourself. ITs a known fact among the medical community that is causes problems. Only the uninformed say things like its not bad for you. Or those who are living in denial of it.


User currently offlinePH-BFA From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1116 times:

Zeus01,

it causes problems yes I agree, so does alcohol and smoking cigarettes! I did not say it is not hazardous, but the risks of using marijuana is not as big as you pretend it to be. If marijuana would cause seriouse diseases I can assure you it would have been never legalised here in the Netherlands.
And, here in the Netherlands we don't live in denial of it since it has been legalised so I don't get your point. And secondly I am not unimformed. Just to show you how dangerous marijuana really is, here is some information:

Annual American deaths caused by drugs:

Tabacco 400000
Alcohol 100000
All legal drugs 20000
All illegal drugs 10000
Caffeine 2000
Asprin 500
Marijuana 0

source: www.marijuana.nl

PH-BFA






User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

PH-BFA: Marijuana leads to a number of health problems...so reading from some pot supporting website that Mary J has caused no death's is garbage.

25 Staffan : Got any statistics of how many people start with marijuana and then go on to heavier drugs?
26 Zeus01 : PH-BFA I don't think those facts are what so ever accurate. First off, you got those faacts from a drug sopporting website. What a load of bull shit.
27 777236ER : My God, a pro-marijuana site has pro-marijuana statistics!! I think hell's still pretty hot.
28 PH-BFA : Well Zeus01 like I said I will also never use marijuana, because I oppose the idea of smoking in general, it is just bad and could get you in to serio
29 KAL_LM : Ok, yes, I've seen people get really messed up from smoking pot, their lives go to sh*t and they move on to the harder drugs. Yes, I've seen people sm
30 NWA742 : Annual American deaths caused by drugs: Tabacco 400000 Alcohol 100000 All legal drugs 20000 All illegal drugs 10000 Caffeine 2000 Asprin 500 Marijuana
31 Dahawaiian : You anti-marijuana freaks actually believe the government? I suggest you visit the boards at overgrow.com because the people there know the truth abou
32 777236ER : Dahawaiian -- yup, the government is against us all. Marijuana is bad for you. End of story.
33 Zeus01 : NWA742's right, you can't trust these facts. Id like to make my point and move on, but obviously theres still a aruguemtn to be made here. Maybe it wo
34 NWA742 : You anti-marijuana freaks actually believe the government? I suggest you visit the boards at overgrow.com because the people there know the truth abou
35 Zeus01 : All you pot heads are so desperate for a excuse to legalize pot and promote it. Have you smoked that much of it that its already f-ed your mind over?
36 Delta15 : Oh my god, there are some incredibly arrogant people on this board. Do you think that weed is smuggled in from Syria, Afghanistan, Korea etc. and sup
37 NWA742 : Delta15, A lot of terrorist organizations are funded by drug money! You're the arrogant one!
38 Delta15 : NWA742-sorry, but you must have read the topic incorrectly. The topic is specifically about marijuana. If you could find me a specific situation of ma
39 NWA742 : Ummmmmm........try watching CNN sometime. They've said it a hundred times. Where else do you think terrorists get their money?
40 Zeus01 : Delta, You seem to have fabricated the common drug screen over your eyes. NWA and I have pointed our clear and honest facts about pot. Al Queda has be
41 Dahawaiian : Hey guys, I really don't feel like arguing this to death using snide comments, so I'll attack it another way. YES, marijuana does have some negative h
42 Post contains images Dragogoalie : Ummmmmm........try watching CNN sometime. They've said it a hundred times. Where else do you think terrorists get their money? really? I thought they
43 777236ER : NWA742: Because CNN sez so it's true? Marijuana doesn't fund terrorists, but that doesn't mean it should be leagalised.
44 KAL_LM : Ok... 1. Some drugs do fund terrorists, but so does the US Government. 2. Marijuana can really mess you up, the AMA has that info...try looking up alc
45 NWA742 : NWA742: Because CNN sez so it's true? Marijuana doesn't fund terrorists, but that doesn't mean it should be leagalised. Not just CNN, but many other n
46 777236ER : Where's your proof NWA? The US government also funds terrorism.
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