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HLS Sec Napolitano Ends HLS Spy-Satellites  
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245...4540265.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

No, Google Earth will not work as a replacement. Those pictures are too old. It seems Janet Napolitano now thinks these satellites, ment to find and keep track of terrorists. Now, how is she going to keep track of those "terrorist" who are US Military Vetarans, Abortion Opponents, and members of the GOP.

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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
Now, how is she going to keep track of those "terrorist" who are US Military Vetarans, Abortion Opponents, and members of the GOP.

Where is that said on the article?



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 1326 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1):
Where is that said on the article?

Napolitano said that aboout the recent "tea parties" held across the US.


User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1304 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
Janet Napolitano

Who is she?



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25791 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1297 times:

Actualy the program and access to data will still be available to local agencies, just not thru the DHS, but instead via the DOJ.


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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1280 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Napolitano said that aboout the recent "tea parties" held across the US.

That she was going to use Satellites? Do you have a link?



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1263 times:



Quoting 7324ever (Reply 3):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
Janet Napolitano

Who is she?

She is the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.


User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

The National Applications Office, that was the part of DHS that was responsible for sharing intel gathered from military and intel satellites with law enforcement.


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User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3284 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1217 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6):
She is the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

And former governor of the northern most state of Mexico - ARIZONA.

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User currently offlineZOTAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Haven't the events over the past few weeks (Tiller and Holocaust Museum) proven that report to be true?

User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

LAXIntl,

Quote:
Actualy the program and access to data will still be available to local agencies, just not thru the DHS, but instead via the DOJ.

So these spy satellites are still being used to spy on civilians, it's just being done by the DOJ?


Blackbird


User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 1126 times:



Quoting ZOTAN (Reply 9):
Haven't the events over the past few weeks (Tiller and Holocaust Museum) proven that report to be true?

No.

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User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 1126 times:



Quote:
Rep. Jane Harman (D., Calif.), who oversees the House Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence, said she was alarmed when she recently saw that the Obama administration requested money for the program in a classified 2010 budget proposal. She introduced two bills that would terminate the program.

"It's a good decision," Ms. Harman said in an interview. "This will remove a distraction and let the intelligence function at [the department] truly serve the community that needs it, which is local law enforcement."

Emphasis mine...


Isn't Jane Harman essentially saying that data gathered by the intelligence agencies is to be predominantly used for law enforcement purposes?

Isn't that sort of a no-no?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 1112 times:



Quoting Blackbird (Reply 12):
Isn't that sort of a no-no?

That is correct.

Does anyone remember a few years ago when the Dumbocrats accused Bush on spying on the American people through NSA wiretaps on certain calls and internet traffic that originated in a few Arabic and Fasay countries?


User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21700 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 1108 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 13):
Quoting Blackbird (Reply 12):
Isn't that sort of a no-no?

That is correct.

So you're saying that intelligence agencies and law enforcement should not share information?

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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7311 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
Actualy the program and access to data will still be available to local agencies, just not thru the DHS, but instead via the DOJ.

Precisely; there is no ON/OFF for Mr. Napolitano to switch off.  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11721 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1084 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 13):
Dumbocrats accused Bush on spying on the American people through NSA wiretaps on certain calls and internet traffic that originated in a few Arabic and Fasay countries?

Let's back up a second: Democrats ever took issue with wiretaps and data mining on communications originating or destined for Arabic speaking countries. What was at issue was the fact that the DHS, NSA, DOJ and Bush Administration would not own up to the fact that they were actually getting conversations being placed/recieved completely and wholly within the United States. For example, Mavis, up the street, calling Gertrude across town, asking about her apple fritter recipie. That could have been tapped or not. We don't know and, thanks to Bush Administration lawyers, will probably never know.

Maybe Napolitano sees the budget is redundant and found something she can cut? Maybe she found she can get better intel from the ground than from sattelites?



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User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1063 times:

KC-135,

Quote:
That is correct.

I kind of had a feeling


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1039 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
For example, Mavis, up the street, calling Gertrude across town, asking about her apple fritter recipie. That could have been tapped or not. We don't know and, thanks to Bush Administration lawyers, will probably never know.



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 16):
Let's back up a second: Democrats ever took issue with wiretaps and data mining on communications originating or destined for Arabic speaking countries. What was at issue was the fact that the DHS, NSA, DOJ and Bush Administration would not own up to the fact that they were actually getting conversations being placed/recieved completely and wholly within the United States.

Didn't you answer your own statement? The Bush Administration did not do any domestic wiretaping without a court order. They did tape/investigate some international calls, the courts approved, and Congress was informed.

They did not tape Gertrude and Mavis.

This kind of falls in line with Princess Nancy forgetting what the CIA did, and did not breif her on back in 2003. She accused the CIA of "lying to Congress". The CIA had all their documentation. Can we accuse her, and the rest of Congress of "lying to the American people"?


User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

KC-135 Top Boom,

From what I remember the Warrantless Surveillance Program was done, uhm, without a warrant...

From what it seemed President Bush felt as Unitary Executive, Decider and God that he could just do it without asking FISA


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11721 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1017 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 18):
Didn't you answer your own statement?

Well, no. What upset people is the fact that Bush lawyers decided it was okay to not release information on who exactly was being listened to. Mavis and Gertrude or al-Qaida... no one knows thanks to Bush. He and his people felt they didn't need to follow the law for the security of the nation.



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