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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

So I'm going to be seeing Spring Awakening [for the 4th time] in Downtown Philidelphia (the Kimmel Center) on Sunday.

Originally, I had planned on driving out there (about 7 hours each way from Cleveland), especially because airfares looked a bit high for my "as cheap as possible" budget for my adventure. Spend Saturday as a travel/do the tourist thing day, see the show sunday, then turn around and drive back being back in Cleveland by about 11:00 PM

In looking at it I can fly to PHL on Saturday, return on Sunday for about $194 -- my only concern is that the return flight is a 5:10 departure from Philadelphia.

The show starts at 1:00 PM and has a 2:15 runtime (so figure over by 3:30)... Is it possible to get from downtown to the airport and make a 5:10 flight? If so, mass transit? Taxi? Specifics?

Assistance is greatly appreciated -- I'd rather not book it until I know it's possible (and won't be a $100 cab fare) !

Thanks,

Lincoln


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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

One word: SEPTA  Smile. It's the light-rail system there. From PHL, brings you to the Amtrak station and Downtown. I've always watned to try SEPTA lol  Smile


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User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Try checking the SEPTA timetables. SEPTA runs pretty frequently between 30th street station and PHL. It's not terribly far. I believe there is a flat rate of a little less than $30 between PHL and downtown, but you may also want to check the taxi website about that.


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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2290 times:



Quoting EASTERN (Reply 2):
I believe there is a flat rate of a little less than $30 between PHL and downtown

$30?!?!

The most you can ever pay on the SEPTA Regional Rail for one-day one-way is $18. And that's Zone 6, on board (not advance sale). The airport is in zone 5. It's $6 if bought at the station. Or $7 if paid on board. That's at any hour, as there is no off-peak hours for the R1.

Take the R1. http://www.septa.com/maps/click_map.html


User currently offlineWagz From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 516 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2280 times:
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Don't count on using SEPTA for that tight of a connection. The Kimmel Center is at least a 15 minute walk to get to any of the Center City train stations. The R1 Train to the airport runs every 30 minutes, so if you've just missed one, that's going to hurt your travel time majorly. Travel time from Suburban Station to the Airport is about 25 to 30 minutes.

Its worth noting that going from the Kimmel Center to the Center City rail stations you must travel northbound on Broad Street which is taking you farther away from the airport (although not a large distance). Also, your R1 train will be arriving from either Warminster or West Trenton before transiting Center City to the airport. Both of those points are 45 minutes to an hour away, and although its not busy on Sundays, the train could be delayed enroute to Center City for any number of reasons, thus delaying your ride to the airport.

A cab from the Kimmel Center would be much faster. That shouldn't take more than 20 minutes.



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User currently offlinePHLstudent From United States of America, joined May 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

The flat rate for the taxis I believe is $27.50, but this was before the rise in fuel prices, so It is not much more.

The R1 runs every half hour on the 00 and 30 from suburban station (15th and market) and I think at the 05 and 35 or 07 and 37 from 30th street station. The trip takes about 30+ minutes on the R1 from suburban


User currently offlinePliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Based on a few years of Philly living, and the still regular philly visits, (I was just back two weeks ago) I'd go with the cab. Think of the cost of being late and missing the flight versus saving a few bucks on the R1 SEPTA. Is $20 worth risking missing your flight?

User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

SEPTA is not the most reliable. Even on weekdays when I am taking the train (SEPTA) from home, connecting to the airport, I always take the train before the one which I need to take, just to be sure. SEPTA has a reduced schedule on Sunday. Check the cab.

User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2140 times:



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 3):
$30?!?!

The most you can ever pay on the SEPTA Regional Rail for one-day one-way is $18. And that's Zone 6, on board (not advance sale). The airport is in zone 5. It's $6 if bought at the station. Or $7 if paid on board. That's at any hour, as there is no off-peak hours for the R1.

Take the R1. http://www.septa.com/maps/click_map.html

Should have been more clear. The about $30 price I quoted was for taxis. Lack of sleep.  Wink



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Thanks for all of the (quick!) responses... I think I'm going to try SEPTA from the airport to the hotel on Saturday (where time is essentially no object) and then do the cab thing on Sunday (I'm going to need to pick my stuff up from the hotel [the DoubleTree downtown] as well...)

What's the taxi scene in Philly? Is it like NY where you can't go 10 feet without finding one, or is it like Cleveland where unless you've called for one you'll never find one -- and even sometimes when you have called for one...

Lincoln



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User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

With SEPTA you'd save $15-17, but it would take you a total of an extra 20 minutes if all goes right. If time permits, (ie if you leave the Kimmel Center by 3:10PM or 3:15PM max), you can take a cab to Suburban station which will run you about $5-6. Add that to $7 for the one-way on the R1 to the airport, and that would run you $12-13. The cab takes 5 minutes from Kimmel Center to Suburban, and the train leaving at 3:30PM will get you there by 3:50-3:55.

The taxi from anywhere in center city to the airport is a flat rate of $28.50 (IIRC), and takes 15-20 minutes.

If you get to the station and for some reason the R1 train is running on a long delay, it will say so on the screens (#of minutes late) and you can then always catch a cab to the airport (there are always plenty outside the station).


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2052 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 9):

What's the taxi scene in Philly? Is it like NY where you can't go 10 feet without finding one, or is it like Cleveland where unless you've called for one you'll never find one -- and even sometimes when you have called for one...

In Center City its exactly like NY, even easier I find.


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

This won't help you, but it is a anecdote from my experience with going from PHL to downtown PHL.
I was visiting my cousin at Penn, and I decided to take a cab from the airport to the university (it was dark out, and I really didn't feel like screwing around with public transport). We got stuck in a major traffic jam on I-76, or whatever the main road is going into the city. Of course, my cell phone, for some reason was on silent mode. So while my mother and cousin knew I had landed, 30-45 minutes later they had no idea where I was.
I get out of the cab and my cousin tells me I need to call my mom right away. It turns out I had 10 missed calls, and my family thought that I had been kidnapped.
Only in Philly....


User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1929 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
Assistance is greatly appreciated -- I'd rather not book it until I know it's possible (and won't be a $100 cab fare

Cab it.

No question...I'd actually figure you get out by 4pm....the Cab will take you 20 minutes...it'll be 30 bucks (it's already a 20 minute walk to the City Center Station, plus 7 dollars)

Plus...there's a very big risk with the trains esp. on Sundays.

taking a Taxi will be a straight shot, word of advise....get out a little early, and make a run for it.

good thing is in Philly you can pay be Credit card for the taxis.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1910 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 13):
I'd actually figure you get out by 4pm....

1:00 PM showtime, 2:15 runtime including intermission says I "should" be able to run for it by 3:15, add a 5 minute late start + a 5 minute slip on intermission pushes me to 3:25.

No problem with making a run for it, but getting out early won't be possible -- I snagged an on-stage seat [actually, the only reason I'm going all the way to Philidelpha to see this show again]

Lincoln



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User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Honestly you're better off driving... PHL is a joke in summer, I can almost guarentee you'll spend 3 hrs on the ground at number 68 for takeoff, for the 45 minute flight.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9178 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1861 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Thread starter):
If so, mass transit?

Several on here have already beat me to it. I still think SEPTA is your best bet. You can take the R1 commuter train right from the Airport terminal right to Suburban Station right underneath JFK Blvd. You can either walk from JFK Blvd down Broad St to the Kimmel Center, or you can transfer to the BSS Line and take that from Suburban Station to the next station towards the Stadium complex. I think the next station down is Chestnut/Walnut, which I think puts you a block or so from the Kimmel Center.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7510 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1853 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
I still think SEPTA is your best bet.

Given the time-sensitive nature regarding his return itinerary on Sunday; SEPTA's not going to help him and that regard... especially if the train(s) are running late. See Joe's (Wagz) earlier post (reposted below)... and this is coming from someone who used to work for SEPTA:

Quoting Wagz (Reply 4):
Don't count on using SEPTA for that tight of a connection. The Kimmel Center is at least a 15 minute walk to get to any of the Center City train stations. The R1 Train to the airport runs every 30 minutes, so if you've just missed one, that's going to hurt your travel time majorly. Travel time from Suburban Station to the Airport is about 25 to 30 minutes.

Its worth noting that going from the Kimmel Center to the Center City rail stations you must travel northbound on Broad Street which is taking you farther away from the airport (although not a large distance). Also, your R1 train will be arriving from either Warminster or West Trenton before transiting Center City to the airport. Both of those points are 45 minutes to an hour away, and although its not busy on Sundays, the train could be delayed enroute to Center City for any number of reasons, thus delaying your ride to the airport.

A cab from the Kimmel Center would be much faster. That shouldn't take more than 20 minutes.

Lincoln can try the SEPTA experience from the airport TO Center City because things at that point (according to his itinerary) aren't as time-sensitive.



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User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1831 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 1):
It's the light-rail system there.

SEPTA, the regional rail at least, is good old fashioned heavy rail -- the legacy of the Pennsylvania and Reading railroads.

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 9):
What's the taxi scene in Philly? Is it like NY where you can't go 10 feet without finding one, or is it like Cleveland where unless you've called for one you'll never find one -- and even sometimes when you have called for one...

There's no problem finding a cab in Center City.

I'd take the train in and get a cab out. Given how tight your schedule is, I wouldn't risk it. People love to hate on SEPTA, and I don't think it's that bad, but a 20 minute delay could really mess you up.



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User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1825 times:



Quoting HangarRat (Reply 18):
I'd take the train in and get a cab out. Given how tight your schedule is, I wouldn't risk it. People love to hate on SEPTA, and I don't think it's that bad, but a 20 minute delay could really mess you up.

SEPTA is significantly better these days than it was when I was in there in the late 80s. But for the return trip, I agree: it's risky to take SEPTA with such a tight timeline. From the Kimmel center it's a a bit of a walk to Suburban Station. And if he's taking US Airways, the line for security will be considerable....



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1817 times:



Quoting JM017 (Reply 19):
And if he's taking US Airways, the line for security will be considerable....

Oh, God no  Smile

Continental (operated by Chaquata) both ways -- but since this is my first set of CHQ flights and I have never heard anything that exactly inspires confidence in the operation I'm not sure how much better it is.

Thanks again to everyone who's taken the time to reply... I roll in around 9:57 AM on CO 5803 and the rest will happen as it happens  Smile

My "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" adventure -- and the least amount of pre-planning/most spur of the moment that I've ever put into a leasiure trip.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

So I have landed in Pittsburgh... SEPTA was fun, gruff exterior but generally friendly/helpful folks. Didn't seem esepecially fast, but it didn't seem especially slow either -- definately doing a taxi on the way back.

My Cell phone is behaving strangely, but this is a VACATION so I don't care terribly  Smile

Off to do touristy things now, thanks again to everyone who offered advice/insight.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9178 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1725 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 21):
So I have landed in Pittsburgh...

Oh... THAT part of the state, eh?

Have you been to that jungle yet? Should you be in need of any navigation or a list of points of interest. I'd be glad to be of assistance!  Smile

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 21):
SEPTA was fun, gruff exterior but generally friendly/helpful folks. Didn't seem esepecially fast, but it didn't seem especially slow either -- definately doing a taxi on the way back.

Hmm ok.

You do not want to put urself at the mercy of SEPTA during severe weather tho! I tried that one day on my way home from work last summer at the City of Philadelphia, and it stormed like you wouldn't believe! The entire regional rail network was delayed 1-2 hours! Suburban Station looked like Tokyo! My neighbor and I caught a bus from City Hall up to King of Prussia Mall, and her husband drove us back home. That still took us about an hour and a half...



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1720 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 22):
Oh... THAT part of the state, eh?

Ugh... Shows what gettinng up at 6:00 in the morning and not consuming any caffene while posting from a mobile device does to you.

I landed in PHILADELPHIA....

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 22):
Suburban Station

Suburban Station was paractically deserted when I rolled through there... really not many people at all except for a small village of homeless people as I left the station (what a great welcome to the city!)

I don't get, though, why it's called Suburban Station when it's definately not in the suburbs...

I have returned to Cleveland... the trip was awesome, I wish I had a little bit more time. Saw the show I came to see twice (once as an audience member in the "normal seats", once as an audience member on stage, did the constitution center, liberty bell, mint (but no independence hall -- no tickets available  Sad ) then this morning walked to Rittenhouse Square, to Ben Franklin Avenue and spent a very short time at the Musuem of Art before I had to turn around and head back for the show... Saw the show, ran [literally] across the street to the hotel, grabbed my bags, had a taxi hailed and was off to the airport. (And we had no delay/wait in line for takeoff)

Philly is a very walkable city, and the beggars are very passive

Thanks again for all of the help!

Lincoln



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User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1651 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 23):
and the beggars are very passive

LOL

That's going to be the tag line for the new tourism campaign.

Seriously though, the homeless in Philly are hidden in plain sight most of the time. It's only when there's no one else in the stations that you really notice them.

Glad you liked Philly.



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25 Wagz : Its amazing how deserted Suburban is on weekends, especially Sundays. Being that its smack dab in the middle of the business district, its primary so
26 PHLBOS : IIRC, Suburban Station has also been called (not sure if it was ever officially renamed) either Penn Center and/or Penn Center Suburban Station. Not
27 Steeler83 : I was one of those 9-5 commuters last year, and if you like Times Square/Tokyo-esque crowds, try hanging out there between 7 and 9 am or 4 and 6 in t
28 PHLBOS : Before the Center City Rail Tunnel/Connection, the Reading Railroad lines ended at what is know known as the Reading Terminal Market. The Market East
29 Steeler83 : I have seen that trestle before and often wondered what that was. I actually found out that it was part of the abandoned Reading Railroad line during
30 PHLBOS : I know that there was construction at the concourse level adjacent to Suburban Station and there presently is construction taking place along JFK Blv
31 Steeler83 : That looks like a huge mess! I feel sorry for anyone trying to get from Center City to the Schuylkill via JFK blvd! Oh wait, I've done that before, a
32 7324ever : I say just avoid the hardcore ghetto as much as possible and PHL is an amazing airport!
33 HangarRat : The construction on JFK Blvd is actually two projects. PennDOT just rebuilt the JFK bridge over the Schuylkill. And PECO just wrapped up a major renov
34 Steeler83 : Thanks for the post, that was rather informative! I guess you could say that Liberty Place is the flagship of the high-end retailors, more or less? I
35 HangarRat : There's nothing wrong with it. You just won't find anything there that you can't find in an average suburban mall. Outside on Market Street, you find
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