Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10 Posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1401 times:
There was another thread about the British and Irish Lions tour to South Africa but it has been archived.
Yesterday South Africa beat the Lions 28-25 to lead the 3 match series 2-0. After last week's game which the Boks led by a country mile then nearly lost in the dying minutes, yesterday the Lions came out strong from the start and led the game until about ten minutes from the end. Half time was 16-8 to the visitors, a score which could have been much different if Ruan Pienaar hadn't left his kicking boots at home. He missed 3 penalties and a conversion before being replaced by new boy Morne Steyn.
The scores were tied at 25 on 80 minutes when Ronan O'Gara was penalised for a dangerous tackle, giving Steyn a 45 metre penalty opportunity which he took with ease despite the pressure of the moment.
Next week the third Test is at Ellis Park in Johannesburg with the Boks hoping to complete the series whitewash.
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
Thesorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1383 times:
Absolutely gutted. I was there at both matches, and really did think the 2nd test was ours. A great display by both teams, and as you say, fortunately for us Pienaar's kicking was terrible, don't know why they didn't bring Morne Steyn on sooner. Without the huge number of injuries we would have probably won it, as the Lions dominated the scrum and the move to uncontested didn't help us. But hey that's Rugby, and the score is not going to change.
The atmosphere was electric in the stadium, one of the best matches I've been to. However, I was dissapointed with the yellow card decision for Schalk Burger, it was clearly a red. Unfortunately not many refs have the balls to send someone off so early on in the match. De Villiers (Coach) also came out with some unbelievable comments at the end of the match. I hope Burger gets a lengthy ban, gouging has no place in Rugby.
Congratulations to the Boks
ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
YOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4892 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1324 times:
What a weekend it was! I was out and about with my SA buddies from Friday night to Sunday PM. In that time many beers were pulled, lots of brandy and coke and lots of singing, even a good bunch of it with a couple cheeky English lads who seemed to take the loss really well.
If for whatever reason Ruan Pienaar gets the start over Steyn next week I will be beside my self. I've never rated Pienaar at 10 and to keep Steyn out till now was madness. The silver lining to Burger's suspension is all of the free ball we're going to get when Brussow starts next week.
Quoting Oli80 (Reply 2): Why am I not surprised nothing is mentioned about the first 2 minutes of the game! What an absolute load of bollocks!! He'll be getting a lengthy ban for that behaviour.
Well I'm pretty sure if you won a series you would inadvertently overlook some of your team's transgressions.
Quoting Andz (Reply 3): if Sheridan is banned for his behaviour
Don't hold your breath man. We've all seen this movie before, where SA gets into a scrappy test with multiple incidents leading to multiple suspensions and the opposition comes out smelling like daisies.
Quoting Thesorcerer (Reply 1): De Villiers (Coach) also came out with some unbelievable comments at the end of the match.
DeV is a world class nob, listen to him at your own peril.
If SA stick to playing the game, within the laws of the game and the right/fit/eligible XV starts, next week could be a gem. Let's see what comes.
Davehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1307 times:
8 weeks? Proof that the disciplinary process in rugby is run by absolute numpties. Burger deserves the book thrown at him, as does anyone who is done for eye gouging. It can cause blindness, it's unacceptable in sport and an 8 week ban is derisory.
TheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1206 times:
Nice to see the Lions win one, nothing worse than a white wash I think. Also good to see Vickery destroy the beast in the scrum.
As for the whole disciplinary thing, I think some of the match officials and other officials have had an absolute shocker throughout the tour. Schalk Burger should have been sent off after the gouge, and a 2 week ban for Botha? He cleared out a ruck and Jones was unfortunate to get his arm trapped.
Quoting Andz (Reply 5): So.... if common sense prevails, Heinrich Brussow and Morne Steyn will get a start!
Definitely 2 contenders for the Tri Nations.
ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
Treeny From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1176 times:
Well as another Lions tour comes to an end I guess it is time for reflection.
On the basis of things, you would probably have to hold your hands up and say that SA deserved the serious win although of course I was gutted for the Lions who more than contributed to three test matches of the highest level of skill, intensity passion and pride.
I actually feel for Botha. I wonder whether his ban was actually an admission of guilt from the IRB for the Burger incident and they used Botha to try and balance things out a bit.....I would hope that I am wrong of course but honestly, even as a die hard B&L supported I do believe Botha was hard done by...
Speaking of the IRB, whilst not apportioning blame, you have to say the officials were poor in the first two tests.
The TMO incident between Lawrence and Berdos was nothing short of farcicle to say the least and the management of the scrum in the first test really was beyond belief. If you want to take it to the letter, watch those scrums again where Vickery was being pensalised...actually Vickery was breaking the law in that his was twisting in and boaring which is illegal...however you need to see why.....The Beast was actually not engaging straight so to combat this Vickery twisted more which is also illegal and thats why he was pensalised. Thats not to say Vickery didnt have a poor game, where is body position was sometimes whoeful but on balance he was probably shading on the side of being hard done by.
Aside from the tittle tattle overall it was a great series, that both teams deserved to win but, and as much as I hate cliche's, you have to say that when it mattered the home team had the longer fingernails on which to grip on with and that, I think shows, why they are world champions. Basic, hard, strong platformed rugby, a strong captain, strong engine room and danger all over the three quarters especially in defence leave little room for teams to find holes so when you have the chance for points you MUST take them...SA did, the lions did not and that is where a test is won and lost.
Congratulations to the Boks on a well deserved test series victory. Congratulations to the Lions for the performances, the pride and the spirit in which they played and for coming so very close, deservedly so on almost taking another series in SA.