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Questions About Visitng AUS And NZ In September  
User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1776 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Hello fellow a.netters:

My GF and I are planning on a 2 week trip for AUS and NZ, we have found a good travel schedule with QANTAS departing from SAN (via LAX) to Brisbane-Melbourne-Sidney-Auckland and from there back to SAN.

To all Aussies and Kiwis out there, would you recommend dropping a city for another one or eliminating one entire in order to have more days at each destination?, any special event to plan for beforehand (festivals and such)? or a city to avoid entirely?

Any information will greatly help.

Thank you

Marcus


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6405 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Hi Marcus,

What are you interested in? Arts? Scenery? Wildlife? Which month are you travelling in?

If you like arts, Melbourne and Sydney are ones to spend a little longer in. Are you planning to have a rental car in these cities?

Just a bit of extra info needed to determine whether you'd enjoy a stay in one city over another.

Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

September isn't the warmest month in Australia, especially Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth. Brisbane should be fine, so if you are after the beach, etc., I would leave a little more time for Brisbane/Gold Coast.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4801 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

september is pretty cold downunder.
In terms of New Zealand I would recommend you forget about the North Island since you won't have time to do both... suggest you fly from Sydney straight into Queenstown, party it up have and adventure etc maybe drive up to Christchurch (you will still have to fly out through AKL however). If you really want to you could spend a day or so in AKL on the way home.



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1776 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Hello again:

We are planning on being there the second and third week of September, as for the weather I guess that is why flights are kind of cheap during that time period....no biggie we can cope with it.

For a rental car we had not thought about this but I guess if you guys recommend it then I will consider it, what would be the pro's and con's for rental cars in both countries?

As for what we are interested in....there are no specifics, never been down under so anything you recommend will be new and will seriously consider exploring it, with just 2 weeks we don't really have time for visiting the outback, that is unless we eliminate a city in order to make time for it.

Thank for the info.

Marcus



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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 960 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Marcus

I'd eliminate a city and do something in the outback - but travel into the "outback" can take some time, especially from the cities you've mentioned, apart from flying. Central Australia is something most Aussies never visit, but is soooooo worthwhile.

Which to drop? Brisbane or Melbourne (and I'm trying not to be a biased Sydneysider) - I enjoy visiting both, but I don't know that there are huge difference between the three to an overseas visitor, and Sydney contains more "icons". Brisbane gives you access to the Gold Coast Theme Parks (shudder) and the lovely Sunshine Coast. Melbourne has great art galleries and bars, and you could do a Great Ocean Rd/Philip Island tour. It;s up to you which you'd prefer.

If in Sydney, make sure you include a Blue Mountains tour (overnight with some trekking would be even better). And public transport is quite OK to get around the main attractions in all three cities.

Kent


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2871 times:
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I would drop Auckland for New Zealands stop over and go directly to Queenstown for some real adventure and see some real New Zealand. Go bungy jumping in Queenstown, cruise Queenstown's lake on the Earnslaw, day trip to Milford Sound to enjoy some beautiful scenery and massive waterfalls, head to Wanaka for a day trip, head to historical Arrowtown which is very colourful in Autumn for a day trip or head to Te Anau for a day trip. Arrowtown and Te Anau could be done in half a day so you could visit both towns in one day

User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3173 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

You are covering a lot of ground in 2 weeks.

I would drop Brisbane(yes I live here) and Melbourne and instead go to Cairns. Like the New Zealanders said maybe go to Queenstown instead of Auckland.

SAN-LAX-BNE-CNS-SYD-ZQN-AKL-LAX-SAN, fly into Australia on the flights you selected but instead go to other places. If you really wanted to stop in Auckland before you fly out then you could consider an overnight stop in Auckland before catching your flight back to the US the next day.

Cairns is a tropical tourist destination where the reef is; there is a lot of tourist stuff to see. Melbourne would probably be too cold in September to really enjoy it.

Queensland(Brisbane & Cairns) school holidays cover this period which may effect some flights. Saturday 19 September to Sunday 4 October 2009 (incl.)
NSW(Sydney) School holidays are in October so you miss them altogether.

Sydney is a must and you could probably spend a week there.



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User currently onlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

How about a stop at a south pacific island ? Cook islands are great !

User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 960 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

I agree with dropping Auckland as well - a nice place to visit too, but not a must see on a short trip.

As for Cairns, I'm heading there in a fortnight to escape our Sydney winter (mind you, 18 degrees celsius isn't too bad for midwinter!  Smile )

Kent


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Was just about to start a thread about this! Thanks Marcus!

I too am traveling to NZ and OZ! My question is, how do i get from Queenstown to Fox/Franz Josef glaciers? I have seen a map which says its a four hour drive. Is renting a car an option? Is there an airport near? Even then i suppose i'd have to go via Christ church!

Im only there 5 days unfortunately, so im planning doing some adventure stuff in Queenstown then do a day of glacier walking.



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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2757 times:
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If all goes well, I'll be in Melbourne in October for a couple of weeks.

Can one of you please tell me what the weather's like at that time? I'll be riding a motorcycle the whole time!!!

Thanks,

F



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User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7084 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2742 times:



Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):
head to Wanaka for a day trip, head to historical Arrowtown which is very colourful in Autumn

Unless the seasons have flipped since the last time I lived in NZ September is in Winter.

I don't think two weeks is enought time to do the 4 cities you have listed, personally I'd drop Australia and concentrate on NZ, it's far easier to travel around NZ, you don't have to waste time travelling vast distances between places and it's considerably cheaper. In two weeks you could pretty much cover the entire country.

Spetember is ski season time, whilst the ski resorts are pretty small by North American standards you can go nuts with heli and backcountry skiing.

If you squint a little you could fool yourself in thinking Auckland is a smaller, prettier, cheaper version of Sydney.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4801 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2734 times:



Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 10):
Was just about to start a thread about this! Thanks Marcus!

I too am traveling to NZ and OZ! My question is, how do i get from Queenstown to Fox/Franz Josef glaciers? I have seen a map which says its a four hour drive. Is renting a car an option? Is there an airport near? Even then i suppose i'd have to go via Christ church!

Im only there 5 days unfortunately, so im planning doing some adventure stuff in Queenstown then do a day of glacier walking.

Yes you can hire relatively cheaply, and its not too hard to drive there. There is an airport on the Westcoast but it would take just as long to get there by the time you fly up to CHC first than if you drove. Pretty scenic drive all the way.



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6405 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2731 times:



Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 10):
how do i get from Queenstown to Fox/Franz Josef glaciers? I have seen a map which says its a four hour drive. Is renting a car an option? Is there an airport near? Even then i suppose i'd have to go via Christ church!

There are a few choices open to you - one is pointed out above. Another would be hiring in ZQN and driving up and back down. The one I'd much prefer is to start in Nelson and make your way down the island. Nelson to Franz Josef Glacier is about a 6 hr drive then Franz Josef to Queenstown is slightly shorter, as you've mentioned. Hiring cars is possible from most main centres - those with airports.

Regarding the glacier walking - it'll be one really long day. I'd advise you to stay a night in Franz Josef because you mightn't be able to make it onto the glacier in time/it might be late by the time you finish up there.



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1776 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Guys....looks like I missed the deadline by one day for the cheap multi-city flights with QANTAS (couldn't get confirmation sooner on my vacation days from my boss  banghead  ), so now it looks like I will go there with the cheapest option from AUS, NZ or US main carriers and once there move around on Jet star and/or Virgin blue.


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6405 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2694 times:



Quoting Marcus (Reply 15):
and once there move around on Jet star and/or Virgin blue.

If you decide to head to Queenstown, I highly recommend taking Air New Zealand as they have the improved technology to get out in poor weather conditions. Taking Jetstar in/out of there would be an extreme hassle. Looks like you've got the chance to try out more carriers now! VA into Brisbane then NZ out of AKL or something like that.



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User currently offlineWithaK From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2688 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 11):
If all goes well, I'll be in Melbourne in October for a couple of weeks.

Can one of you please tell me what the weather's like at that time? I'll be riding a motorcycle the whole time!!!

Thanks,

F

Temperatures should be in the low to mid twenties at that time and being spring it may also be a bit wet. However, over the past couple of years knowing exactly how the weather should be like in any given month has been a bit of a challenge.

Kris


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 days ago) and read 2638 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 13):



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):

Thanks very much for your help guys. I was planning on visiting Auckland for a day or two, but now as i have limited time i am going to give it a miss. So i am flying SYD-AKL with EK (cheaper than almost every one else!) and from there i think im going to go straight down to Queenstown with Air New Zealand. Do a few days there risking my life! Then rent a car and drive to the Glaciers etc. But the only thing is what to do then? Drive back to Queenstown or go to Nelson like you said NZ107? Which is best?! And if any of you live close i could treat you to a pint for the advice!  Smile



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1776 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

OK here is the final itinerary....

07/10 SAN-LAX-SYD arrive on the 07/12
07/19 SYD-AYQ
07/22 AYQ-CNS
07/27 CNS-BNE-LAX-SAN

Do you guys have any recomendations as to what not to miss or tourist traps to avoid?...any hotels?

Thanks
Marcus



Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

your whole iten is a tourist trap, seriously, there is so much more than to this country than the places you've penned here...you should to the offbeat places, BNE is a dump, CNS is a tourist trap, AYQ is a day trip and nothing else.

if you can, scrap the flights to AYQ & CNS and hire a car and drive around some of the country towns, leaving out Melbourne is not wise, it is the cultural, sporting & food capital of this country and should NOT be missed.



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

Agree with Qantas077 there. Went to CNS last year..it is just a damn tourist trap with inflated prices. There is so much more to see in this country. Also the whole Ayers Rock thing, don't waste your time and money on that. It is just a lump of rock in the middle of the outback..also a tourist trap. And it looks exactly like it does in the postcard. I was so disappointed when I saw it. The whole place was so crowded and full of noisy tourists it ruined the whole outback experience..people go to such places to experience peace and quiet and look at the night sky..not to see hordes of beer-guzzling tourists. They must really clamp down on these youth orientated tour operators who don't seem to give a damn about others. That was the worst trip in our lives. Maybe we'll go there again in the off-season.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
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Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 12):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):
head to Wanaka for a day trip, head to historical Arrowtown which is very colourful in Autumn

Unless the seasons have flipped since the last time I lived in NZ September is in Winter.

September is Spring


User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 960 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2426 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 20):
leaving out Melbourne is not wise, it is the cultural, sporting & food capital of this country and should NOT be missed.

Cultural and sporting capital maybe (I won't give you food), but it just doesn't have the internationally iconic sights of Sydney.

As for Cairns - yes, very touristy, especially the city itself, but still a great place to visit if you can afford it. If you can afford a car, stay somewhere like Trinity Beach or Palm Cove instead. But make sure your airport transfers are confirmed - 3 hours at Cairns airport on a Sat afternoon with two young kids is not fun (grumble).

Kent


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