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South Korea: Kim Jong Il Has Pancreatic Cancer  
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3355 posts, RR: 45
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

According to a South Korea news agency, Kim Jong Il has life threatening pancreatic cancer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31880905/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

Cheers,
Cameron

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13740 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
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Kim Jong Il.  Wink



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

They already said a few months ago that Krazy Kim had a stroke and was about to expire. Nonetheless, judging from the picture, he does look pretty ill, but I'll believe these reports once his demise is officially reported.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15830 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

I volunteer to put him out of his misery.  tombstone 


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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Hennessy is going to lose their most valuable customer.  Smile

User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2852 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2362 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
I volunteer to put him out of his misery

I know many more people who would like to do so as well, and about bloody time.

So shall he be renamed Kim Jong ILL?

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

There was a story on ABC last year that he had actually died in 2003..

He doesn't appear in public very often so it's difficult to verify but there are allegations today that North Korea's leader Kim Jong-Il has in fact been dead for five years.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/08/2358528.htm



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User currently offlineBritJap From Japan, joined Aug 2006, 280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2353 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Thread starter):
Kim Jong Il has life threatening pancreatic cancer

Please pardon me as I wish him a miserable and wretched death. I look forward to hearing of his demise as soon as possible.

I would hope this may trigger some change for the good on the Korean peninsula though I will not be holding my breath.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21855 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Aw, poor guy. I feel so sorry for him.  Yeah sure

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 5):
So shall he be renamed Kim Jong ILL?

Nice.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2340 times:

It couldn´t happen to a nicer guy.

Jan


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13195 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2330 times:

That these disclosures are being made to the world to me is a major and very badly needed change in North Korea's governance. The deeper problem is what happens after this 'dear leader' is gone. We could see a very wacked out military take over the government, not a good or stable situation. Better would be some situation where the party leadership chooses a new leader, decides to end the cult leadership and lifestyles, end the isolation, get out of the nuke business and make sure the people are properly fed.

User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1104 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2328 times:

You can go sign up in the link to give your condolences. There is a fourm section.

http://www.korea-dpr.com/



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2283 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
I volunteer to put him out of his misery.

Actually, I volunteer to prolong the misery part...


User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2262 times:



Quoting Rlwynn (Reply 11):
You can go sign up in the link to give your condolences. There is a fourm section.

http://www.korea-dpr.com/

Wow, that forum is fascinating. Not a smidge of sanity anywhere. I was reading for about 25 minutes before coming up with "Huh?"...  Smile



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

I'm confident he has made sure that there's a nutjob to continue his work.

User currently offlineVega9000 From Portugal, joined Aug 2006, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2227 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Better would be some situation where the party leadership chooses a new leader, decides to end the cult leadership and lifestyles, end the isolation, get out of the nuke business and make sure the people are properly fed.

Oh yes, THAT will happen.... crazy 

IMHO, this will happen: one of Kim's sons (the younger one I think) will be heralded as the new "(insert ridiculous name here) Leader", will be handled like a puppet by the military and the Chinese, and try to extend his rule for as long as possible. There is no other way out for these people. Any attempt to unloosen the grip will open up a can of worms that would quickly spiral out of control, in a nuclear armed state, no less. No way the Chinese will let that happen in their backyard.

The question is: what's on China's mind regarding the country's future?



Don't believe anything you read on the net. Except this. Well, including this, I suppose.
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2187 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 14):
IMHO, this will happen: one of Kim's sons (the younger one I think) will be heralded as the new "(insert ridiculous name here) Leader", will be handled like a puppet by the military and the Chinese, and try to extend his rule for as long as possible. There is no other way out for these people. Any attempt to unloosen the grip will open up a can of worms that would quickly spiral out of control, in a nuclear armed state, no less. No way the Chinese will let that happen in their backyard.

The question is: what's on China's mind regarding the country's future?

The point is very simple: Any loosening of the iron grip the party and military have on the population could easily cause a total loss of control, which then could lead to a Ceauscescu-type revolution and execution of the former leadership.

Jan


User currently offlineVega9000 From Portugal, joined Aug 2006, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2171 times:



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 16):

The point is very simple: Any loosening of the iron grip the party and military have on the population could easily cause a total loss of control, which then could lead to a Ceauscescu-type revolution and execution of the former leadership.

Exactly. And that's the reason the surrounding countries cannot let that happen. Saber-rattling aside, I bet that a few well placed bombs by the US, or with the US permission, could easily set off a chain of events that would bring the regime down. It is rotten to the core.
However, like in Iraq, it's not how to bring them down. It's what to do after that, and the huge costs, both humanitarian, financial and in terms of security that the fall of the regime would entail. And the main burden would be on the chinese.



Don't believe anything you read on the net. Except this. Well, including this, I suppose.
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2171 times:



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 16):

The point is very simple: Any loosening of the iron grip the party and military have on the population could easily cause a total loss of control, which then could lead to a Ceauscescu-type revolution and execution of the former leadership.

Tough road, but that would be great for North Korean people...I mean, look where Romania is now, they are a great place with rising prosperity in business and tourism, back from the brink of total collapse just a couple decades ago. I really hope, for the people of the DPRK, this can happen one day. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will be soon...


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3602 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2160 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 14):
I'm confident he has made sure that there's a nutjob to continue his work.

His third son.

From CNN last week:

"In April, he named his son Kim Jong Un and brother-in-law, Jang Song Thaek, to the country's powerful National Defense Commission, suggesting his third son may be his heir."


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21855 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2135 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 12):
Actually, I volunteer to prolong the misery part...

Normally I'd agree, but the longer the misery lasts for him, the longer it lasts for the North Korean people. Not that his son is a guarantee for better days, but at least it would be a chance, which you know you're not getting with his dad.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2128 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 20):

Normally I'd agree, but the longer the misery lasts for him, the longer it lasts for the North Korean people.

Oh no no, take him out of power, and then keep him somewhere to suffer

Easier said than done, I know...bummer


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Another model if he dies and there is no central strong leader to take over is a Nuke armed Somilia with different Generals in the becoming warlords.


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2072 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 18):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 16):

The point is very simple: Any loosening of the iron grip the party and military have on the population could easily cause a total loss of control, which then could lead to a Ceauscescu-type revolution and execution of the former leadership.

Tough road, but that would be great for North Korean people...I mean, look where Romania is now, they are a great place with rising prosperity in business and tourism, back from the brink of total collapse just a couple decades ago. I really hope, for the people of the DPRK, this can happen one day. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will be soon...

Sure, but the NK generals and party nomeklatura know very well what will wait for them if they lose control: No an amnesty and retirement or turning the communist party into a pseudo-democratic party like what happened in several former communist European countries, but either prison or the firing squad. therefore, at least the old guard, will never surrender power voluntarely. What NK needs now is a person who incorporates Khrustchev and Gorbatchev, one to break with the personality cult around the Kims, as Khrustchev did with Stalin, and one to tell the NK population that all the past propaganda was fake and that the country is broke.

Jan


User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

Lets just hope the country goes into revolution once he passes on. Kim Jong Ill is the onlly one who "Knows what he is doing" and once people realize that once hes gone than the country is F***ed not that it is perfect know. And judging by the fabulous health care in NK i give his 6 months to a year at most.


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25 LTU932 : For that, they also have to overcome the brainwashing that is done to them, since they've been children, and also through propaganda. If the communis
26 BMI727 : Have a lottery, like Michael Jackson's funeral. Be a nice way to end the world's most evil (yet miscolored) smurf.
27 WarRI1 : I do not put too much faith into "Heaven and Hell", but when someone like this maniac dies, I sure do "hope" there is a Heaven and a Hell.
28 LTU932 : What I would give for Kim getting the Ceausescu treatment. However, in Ceausescu's case, from what I remember, the whole problem began when the Defen
29 Allrite : I think the whole pancreatic cancer thing is a ruse to make ol' L'il Kim seem cooler. He's just had his new iPhone brought across, looked at Steve Job
30 FuturePilot16 : The man and his country is a cancer
31 TheCol : Yeah, the possibility of an unstable regime with nukes doesn't sit well with me. You can bet certain groups and nations would love to get their hands
32 MD11Engineer : Mostly correct. The defense minister refused to order the army to open fire at unarmed demonstrators. As a result he was arrsted and executed by the
33 LTU932 : I remember finding a few videos on Youtube which showed the corpses of Ceausescu and his wife after they were basically summarily executed. I'm sayin
34 StasisLAX : Is the rotten SOB dead yet???
35 7324ever : Just glad there is still good news in the world. Be it though cancer is terrible death it is a cruel Ironic fate.
36 DocLightning : There is justice in the world. Pancreatic cancer is not life-threatening, it is life-ENDING. 95% of patients diagnosed with pancreatic cancer will be
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