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Why Are People So Afraid To Say "dies"  
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2982 times:
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I cant help but notice that there are several threads on the topic of " person XYZ passes" and I wonder why the euphemism ?

Don't people die anymore ?

Personally when I go I dont want people tiptoeing around the subject ( although of course when I am dead I wont actually be in a position to comment on it ) .


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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5743 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2950 times:
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Is it just me... or did you tiptoe around the subject as well??

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
Personally when I go




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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2951 times:
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Quoting StealthZ (Reply 1):
Is it just me... or did you tiptoe around the subject as well??

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
Personally when I go

touché ! ... and wouldnt you know it , I am just outside the 'edit' DEADline


Ok , to rephrase without use of euphemism :

when I die , I dont want people tiptoeing around it



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User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5657 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

The simple, yet complex, reason, in my opinion, is that when someone says the word die or dead or whatever, they are forced to face their own mortality.


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User currently offlineTheGov From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 420 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

As someone in the funeral business, I prefer to use the phrase "pass away" versus "die". "Die" to me tends to be a little harsh. In my business, while we don't tend to tiptoe around death, we do attempt to make it a little more palatable, so to speak. I mean, people don't tend to visit a funeral home for grins and giggles, so we want to make their experience (as bad as it is) as comforting and reassuring as possible. So if the term "pass away" makes it a little easier to stomach, then I'm okay with it. Just as an aside, most hospitals, when they call us to come pick someone us, use the word "expired". Milk and cheese expire - not people.


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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2876 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Different ways to say the same thing; some think it is more polite, some are just used to saying it one way or another. Doesn't really matter - you know what they're talking about.

User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2846 times:
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Thread starter):
Don't people die anymore ?


I'm going out on a limb here... Maybe it has to do with the circumstances. My sister died due a self inflicted gunshot wound. It is/was violent and extremely traumatic. There was nothing peaceful about the event. I normally use the word "passed" when the end of a person's life was expected.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Must be something with the English speaking world though. In Germany, we mostly say "dead" and don't use any other word to avoid "dead", obviously in German. We try to avoid being "PC" about it, because it seems to me that avoiding the word "dead" in English is because otherwise, it's simply not "politically correct", even if "dead" is spot on accurate. That's just me speculating though.

[Edited 2009-07-18 15:14:28]

User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

I plan to croak, myself.

Not for a long time though, I hope.



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User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1640 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

The funeral business itself, at least here in the USA, uses so many euphemisms:

"Casket" is the word we use for what really is a coffin; the word "casket" comes from a French word describing a box for jewelry or other valuable items. Our caskets are fancy, frilly metallic or wood boxes (usually rectangular, with domed lids) costing as much as a used car (or in the case of Batesville Casket Company's "Promethean" gold-plated bronze casket, which Michael Jackson now lies in; this costs as much as a new US-made car).

In the UK and Europe, I have seen simpler, wooden coffins with anthropoidal or hexagonal shapes, which are more elegant in their simplicity. I would really rather be buried in a simple, Anglo/Irish-style wooden coffin (see Remeire, http://www.remeire.com ) or one like the Trappist monks at New Melleray Abbey in Iowa build (Trappist Caskets, http://www.trappistcaskets.com ).

In a US funeral home, the embalming room is called the "preparation room"; the casket (I mean coffin) showroom is called the "selection room" where coffins are arrayed like luxury cars in a showroom; the room where the wake is held is called a "chapel"...the list goes on.

Even the US hearse has been called often a "funeral coach"!

Do funeral homes in Europe have similar euphemisms or practices?

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User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

Idk alota people dance around I guess passes just makes it sound more peaceful.


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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2621 times:

Just listen to the news, when something unexpected happened to someone or a violent death they say XXX died today, from gunshot etc.. But when someone who was 95 years old dies they say passed away etc.. But really I see the news using died a lot more. I think the circumstances do matter. It is just a nicer way to say it that's all.


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User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2618 times:

Because in Christianity death doesnt exist. Death is just a way to defeat death. The term ´´past out´´ should be used better.

User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 2602 times:

I typically say my brother died. I'm not afraid of the term or death itself it's all very natural to me. Although passed on to me indicates moving on to the next phase of existence. I don't believe death is final I think it is the start of something better.

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