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HAARP: Is The Government Controlling Our Weather?  
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22133 times:

So earlier i was watching this program on the History Channel called "Weather Warfare". It seems pretty scarey..that the government can or is trying to control our weather and using it as a weapon. Anyone researched HAARP or watched this program? or read about this? Supposedly its not just the US; Russia and China have similar installations.

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User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22125 times:




Think about it - if govts could control weather/climate, there would be no Katrinas and no global warming. Why would govt. sit on their  butthead  when billions of dollars of damage is done worldwide due to weather phenomenon.



Life only makes sense when you look at it backwards.
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22121 times:



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 1):

apparently, according the program, weather is being created to be used against other nations and enemies. Katrina was supposedly altered by either the Russians or Chinese and used as a weapon against the US.


User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22118 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 2):
apparently, according the program, weather is being created to be used against other nations and enemies. Katrina was supposedly altered by either the Russians or Chinese and used as a weapon against the US.

Like I said, if it was THAT easy, we could have solved food and water problem in Africa by turning Sahara into a farmland and dry areas into well developed oasis.



Life only makes sense when you look at it backwards.
User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22118 times:

How does this crap get on TV, seriously... It's as bad as these damn chemtrail activists.

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22107 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 4):

lol, ironically they were discussing chemtrails on the program. Well i dunno if its crap really because there is a lot of secret stuff being conducted by our and other governments so it may not be out of the plausible.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8467 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22102 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 5):

Since the government can control the weather, you'll be encouraged to know they also control your thoughts. You can prevent this by making yourself one of these

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/


User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22082 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 5):
lol, ironically they were discussing chemtrails on the program. Well i dunno if its crap really because there is a lot of secret stuff being conducted by our and other governments so it may not be out of the plausible.

I'm not trying to sound rude but you shouldn't believe everything people claim the government do or do not do. Make up your own mind with stuff like that.

Personally, I think you're being sucked right into that program - which is the point of these bullcrap, spinlessly boring and awful shows.


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22077 times:



Quoting Bill142 (Reply 6):

yeah mind control is a little far fetched. But other stuff, i dunno...it may be indeed plausible.

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 7):

Im not letting the show make up my mind nor am i getting sucked into it. Its just something interesting because its not totally out of the realm of possiblity. Look, the government has Area 51; who knows whats going on out there..could be anything (i would tend to believe its of earthly, not alien origin). So its not a stretch to believe that the US government is doing something secret with HAARP up in Alaska.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22077 times:




אני תומך בישראל
User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22073 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Thread starter):
Anyone researched HAARP

These guys - http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Not terribly involved with weather.


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22069 times:



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 9):

lol..that was indeed quite funny Big grin


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 1583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22066 times:



Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 10):

yeah those guys. The show said that in addition to that research being conducted, the radio waves in theory could be used to change weather patterns..either intentionally or unintentionally.


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22056 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Thread starter):
that the government can or is trying to control our weather and using it as a weapon.

Governments have tried to impact the weather, but have had almost no consistent success. Weather is much, much too complex to be easily controllable.

For example, Hurricane Katrina - if it was an attack, why did it stop with just that one? Whyd did not Hugo hit Tampa or New Orleans.

New Orleans is only one of the five major metro areas subject to such potential damage in the US. It is was an attack, it was a poorly executed one.

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 12):
yeah those guys

http://www.haarp.net/haarpoverview.htm - theories by these guys - they cannot even come up with a consistent theory. Some say weather control, some say mind control, some say global warning is the result of HAARP.

These are pretty much the same nut cases who said the ELF transmitters would cause major earthquakes.


User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22047 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Thread starter):

I highly doubt that the govt. is in charge of our weather, If they can't run the IRS, they sure as hell can't run a weather department!  Smile

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 9):

It didnt work for me, I couldn't figure it out  Wink

Atlanta



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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22040 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 8):
Look, the government has Area 51; who knows whats going on out there..could be anything (i would tend to believe its of earthly, not alien origin). So its not a stretch to believe that the US government is doing something secret with HAARP up in Alaska.

Yeah, but whatever the US Govt. does at area 51 may well be remotely plausible - If somebody random told you Katrina was an attack by China or Russia, how would they start a hurricane without somebody noticing, and considering where it hit in relation to Cuba, I'd be pretty sure Bush would have had something to say about a Russian Navy ship that close to Cuba.

I'm not American (or Danish for that matter) - I don't know what you're claiming they do up there, but you have to realise that you can't just change meteorology. It's about as easy as finding a cure for HIV/AIDS. If we could, we'd have stopped major disasters and saved a lot of people from death.

[Edited 2009-07-25 20:09:13]

User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15836 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22028 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 8):
Look, the government has Area 51; who knows whats going on out there..could be anything (i would tend to believe its of earthly, not alien origin).

They research advanced aircraft there. I hear that their latest project is capable of taking off from a conveyor belt.  duck 

Seriously, if they told us what they did there, we probably wouldn't believe them anyway.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 13):
For example, Hurricane Katrina - if it was an attack, why did it stop with just that one? Whyd did not Hugo hit Tampa or New Orleans.

I'll see your tornado and raise you a hurricane. Plus, if anyone here is involved in the project, can you clue us in to major storms so we can get the diversion threads up and running in time?



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22017 times:







I am surprised that this kind of crap got onto History Channel...I thought they had respectable programming. But I guess when money talks, rationality shuts up.



Life only makes sense when you look at it backwards.
User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22011 times:

Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 17):
I am surprised that this kind of crap got onto History Channel...I thought they had respectable programming. But I guess when money talks, rationality shuts up.

The name of the show is That's Impossible

It looks some of the strange theories out there. The episode rerun today was "Weather Warfare"

I did not see it, so don't know how the data was presented. The shows normally show the people behind such ideas are real nutcases, but they always leave a possibility open for dramatic effect.

The prime time episode this week is "Eternal Life"

Personally, I'll believe in Eternal Life before I'll believe governments controlling weather. Frankly I've never seen that level of competence in a government body, nor the ability to keep something like that secret.

Here is a link of some of their episodes

http://www.history.com/search.do?act...arch&searchText=That's+Impossible

[Edited 2009-07-25 21:13:36]

User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 21998 times:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 18):
The name of the show is That's Impossible

Thanks for letting me know. I might just watch it and see what the hell it is all about.

As for:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 18):
Frankly I've never seen that level of competence in a government body, nor the ability to keep something like that secret.

You see....our Reptilian overlords after joining hands with Illuminati and Freemasons have used the information present in the Secret Archives of the Vatican to develop a weather modification weapon. The only reason it has been kept under wraps is because of the memory-supressing and amnesia inducing drugs in chemtrails have rendered us vulnerable to the mind control devices. The flu injection we get every year is actually nano machines that get embeded into our brain and alter thoughts and memories as necessary. Area 51 is their base of operation as well as the Head Quarters of the Chosen One of Priori of Scion.

So all in all, humanity is doomed....Doooooooomed I tell ya      


To the mods: Can we please get a tin foil hat smiley? thanks!





[Edited 2009-07-25 21:59:35]


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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 21995 times:

Now I did not say organized religion was not competent, and they can danged well keep a secret.

User currently offlineAustinAirport From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 21989 times:



Quoting CaliAtenza (Thread starter):
So earlier i was watching this program on the History Channel called "Weather Warfare". It seems pretty scarey..that the government can or is trying to control our weather and using it as a weapon. Anyone researched HAARP or watched this program? or read about this? Supposedly its not just the US; Russia and China have similar installations.

Don't listen to them. I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist but, always have doubts about the Government.
They hide all kinds of stuff from us.
I don't necessarily believe in all of this, but I mean the show made some good points.



Whoever said you can do anything you set your mind to has obviously never tried to slam a revolving door!!!
User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15836 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21975 times:



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 17):
I am surprised that this kind of crap got onto History Channel...I thought they had respectable programming. But I guess when money talks, rationality shuts up.

There was a UFO documentary a while back where they showed photos of some USAF flying saucers. But I'd seen those photos before - both as flying saucers and the original versions which showed more conventional aircraft.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 21901 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 4):
How does this crap get on TV, seriously... It's as bad as these damn chemtrail activists.

There is quite a following on youtube of people who believe this stuff. It's fun to debunk their nonsense, just to have them say they'll kill me  crazy . Silly people...


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20358 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 21862 times:



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 1):





Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 9):



Quoting Phoenix9 (Reply 17):

And, lest we forget,
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25 7324ever : Ohh for the love of Fu**** god Russians dropped off are threat-o-meter in 1989 We owe china too much money for them to wanna invade, PLUS no one real
26 David L : Yup. This is as credible as similar programmes about ghosts, ESP, telekenesis, faked moon landings, etc. All accounts I've seen about cloud-seeding ha
27 FlyDeltaJets87 : Then why not attack Washington, D.C. directly? The fact that we often can't even accurately predict the weather,should tell people that we can't cont
28 CaliAtenza : yeah that part was confusing, why not just attack the capital directly. I dunno the show brought up SOME interesting points, just thought i wud share
29 7324ever : 10-20% your right isnt that much it could just be some wind. Shhh don't say that Bush who is secretly still in power wants the whole world to think t
30 4holer : That was one of the best rants I have seen here. Well done sir! (Except we all know full well that our Reptilian Overlords can't "join hands' as they
31 Phoenix9 : ::Thank you. Thank you very much::
32 AustinAirport : The point that since the program was initiated, several catastrophic weather anomalies have occured. Now do I necessarily buy into this? No. But alwa
33 Phoenix9 : Now, is this because of the HAARP program or due to global climate change? Did it have anything to do with the sun having peak sunspot cycle which re
34 AustinAirport : Couldn't tell ya. My friend. I'm no weather expert.
35 Kmh1956 : Thank you!!! I lost mine, and I couldn't remember how I'd made it!
36 FuturePilot16 : It's funny to me how all these conspiracies are almost always started by the same group. The same gov't haters who say the gov't planned 9/11, the sam
37 L-188 : What did somebody pick up an old copy of "Angles don't play the HAARP" by Nick Begich? He made a couple of "Art Bell" radio show appearances hawking i
38 AustinAirport : LOL. Here's the one's I hear the most (i live in the South) 1: Obama is a terrorist 2: Obama is the antichrist 3. Obama hates gays LOL. It just makes
39 Tugger : How can anyone have any thoughts that there is any credibility to the idea that humans, at our current technology level, could possibly control weath
40 ShyFlyer : You want to know the real government conspiracy? Al Gore invented the internet to aid in the spread of crackpot theories of what the government is doi
41 FlyDeltaJets87 : The real conspiracy in life is how they can get 4 Live NFL games on Sunday on separate networks to all go to commercial at the same time. Now THAT is
42 DocLightning : *gasp* HAHAHAHA!!! Nice!
43 TheCol : Not necessarily true... North Korea?
44 7324ever : Sorry I ment the Soviet Russians and it might have been about 1995... As in Communism taking over the world. It is still alive just not as covered by
45 Post contains images Phoenix9 : Be very very afraid:
46 ShyFlyer : Indeed. You see, the football players are in on this too. During commercial breaks, they are operating, maintaining, and moving the weather modificat
47 CaliAtenza : I honestly dont know why the stupid "birther" movement is still going on...
48 4holer : Somebody stole my tinfoil hat! (I like subtle humor)
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