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Obama Picks Bud Light For Cop/Prof WH Meeting.  
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3978 times:

[This thread is about the decision of Barack Obama to serve Bud Light at his little informal get together at the White House, and the qualities inherent in beer to solve all race problems in America - not the whole politicized situation itself]

If I were Professor Gates or Officer Crowley, I'd be less than pleased with the President's beer selection. If it were me, I would have chosen High Life, PBR or Old Style, mainly because I like those beers, and there's very little pretentiousness associated with them.

If he wanted to go with a tastier combo but still look unpretentious, Sam Adams (since both Gates and Crowley are from Boston) is always a winner, or he could have chosen a local Chicago product like Goose Island (Honkers Ale, Summertime, 312, etc ...) to introduce to the east coasters.

Really, anything but the corporate beer Anheuser-Busch. They're not even an American company anymore (yes yes all the beer served in America is brewed in America, but the home corporate office is now in Belgium.) It just stinks of unoriginality.

That's my take. Yours?


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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3969 times:

I would have gone German or Czech. No risk of being associated with anything particular in the US and tastes better.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3963 times:

Hey if he wanted to give Chicago respect he would have chose Pabst!  biggrin 

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5361 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3960 times:

I'd personally go with Yuengling. Good session beer, it's the US's oldest brewery - it's unpretentious, but tasty, and the brewery is "neutral ground" - neither Boston, Chicago, nor DC.

Now if the President really wanted to hearken back to his past - I'm also a fan of the Kona Brewing Company's brews, particularly Fire Rock, Wailua Wheat, and Longboard Lager. Summer in DC gets pretty humid, so out of those, maybe the Wailua Wheat.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3955 times:

I would have gone with something from a regional microbrewery like Old Dominion (VA), Dogfish Head (DE), or Flying Dog/Wild Goose (MD).

Bud Light is one of the biggest selling beers in the world, but biggest isn't always the best. I guess the mainstream brands of the Anheuser-Busch Companies subsidiary of Anheuser-Busch InBev have more of a "working class/common man" reputation. If I were going to be serving something from their portfolio, I would go with the Budweiser American Ale or perhaps something from Redhook/Widmer (They hold a minority stake in that company.).

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 3):
I'd personally go with Yuengling. Good session beer, it's the US's oldest brewery - it's unpretentious, but tasty, and the brewery is "neutral ground" - neither Boston, Chicago, nor DC.

Now if the President really wanted to hearken back to his past - I'm also a fan of the Kona Brewing Company's brews, particularly Fire Rock, Wailua Wheat, and Longboard Lager. Summer in DC gets pretty humid, so out of those, maybe the Wailua Wheat.

Can't argue against those either. In the last year, they finally started selling Yuengling in Georgia, and it's become a staple of my rotation of brews. Interestingly enough, Kona uses A-B's distribution network, which has allowed national distribution and even distribution to Japan.

[Edited 2009-07-29 13:56:23]

User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2745 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3929 times:

I think PBR would have been a terrible idea. First, it's the stylish choice of hipsters everywhere. Unless the President wants to start wearing flannel shirts, jeans three sizes too small, and grow a hippie beard he should lay off the PBR. Of course the real irony of PBR is that it's one of the first outsourced beers, where the people that brewed it were laid off and the work sent to another brewery. Not the message a pro-labor President wants to send.

I'll agree with the Sam Adams and Kona Longboard suggestions though. I'd like to throw in a great summer beer from a state hard hit by the recession. Bell's Oberon Ale from Kalamazoo, MI is great. One of my friends describes it as the beer that Blue Moon wishes it could be.



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User currently onlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5669 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 3927 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Thread starter):
decision of Barack Obama to serve Bud Light at his little informal get together at the White House

Even Coors would be a much better choice.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3915 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 5):
I think PBR would have been a terrible idea. First, it's the stylish choice of hipsters everywhere.

I know it, but I'm pretty sure most folks still think of PBR as an un-hip, working class beer. Whenever I think of PBR, I think of one of the bars from my hometown and a guy named Joe, who only drinks PBR in cans. Joe has a huge beard, wears a PBR hat, and is a large, burly man who works in a factory. With that image, it's ard to think of PBR as a hipster brand, ya know?



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User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3906 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 1):
I would have gone German or Czech. No risk of being associated with anything particular in the US and tastes better.

I have to disagree. German and Czech beers do not travel well. They invariably taste AWFUL by the time they reach the US. I'm German myself, so I know the diffference!
That said, there are so many better choices than Bud Light! Sam Adams would've made sense, or even better, Harpoon!



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User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Supposedly, Prof. Gates doesn't even like beer....


Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

If it's going to be Bud Light, then we need to have a "Real Men of Genius" spot....


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3858 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Reply 11):
If it's going to be Bud Light, then we need to have a "Real Men of Genius" spot....

Oh man ...

Real Men of Genius ...

Today, we salute you, Mr. "accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy."

*Mr accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy*

Usually, you're an eloquent speaker with an eye for fairness and justice. But not, apparently, when a friend of yours may or may not have been racially profiled.

*Is that guy breaking into someone's house?*

Sure, you're all about post-racial attitudes, and your election to the highest office signaled a new period of racial politics in the United States.

*Ooooh the first black president*

I can't think of any better way to dignify your office and promote racial harmony than by saying a local police department acted "stupidly" when arresting a friend for disorderly conduct.

*I put my foot in my mouth*

So crack open an ice cold Bud Light, oh Mender-of-Racial-Fences. We don't think you're racist, but remember, it's best to think before you speak."

*Mr. accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy.*



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User currently offlineKSYR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3849 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 12):
Oh man ...

Real Men of Genius ...

Today, we salute you, Mr. "accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy."

*Mr accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy*

Usually, you're an eloquent speaker with an eye for fairness and justice. But not, apparently, when a friend of yours may or may not have been racially profiled.

*Is that guy breaking into someone's house?*

Sure, you're all about post-racial attitudes, and your election to the highest office signaled a new period of racial politics in the United States.

*Ooooh the first black president*

I can't think of any better way to dignify your office and promote racial harmony than by saying a local police department acted "stupidly" when arresting a friend for disorderly conduct.

*I put my foot in my mouth*

So crack open an ice cold Bud Light, oh Mender-of-Racial-Fences. We don't think you're racist, but remember, it's best to think before you speak."

*Mr. accidentally stepped into a local dispute he didn't know much about and made it worse, guy.*

Classic!!!

Personally, I think they all should have enjoyed 40s of Colt 45, but that's just me.  Silly


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

Miller High Life would have been the better choice--watch the commercials and you'd see why. Of course, some loony tune on the far right would manage to accuse Obama of being a secret french-loving aristocrat who wants to sell the country to Europe because of Miller High Life's slogan that it is "the champagne of beers."

Bud Light--America's best piss-flavored water with a hint of alcohol.


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5361 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...eers-obama-gates-cro_n_247392.html

According to this article it was more than just Bud Light - while the President went for Bud Light, Professor Gates opted for Red Stripe and Sergeant Crowley went for a Blue Moon.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Why in God's name Bud Light? Why didn't they have a Carlsberg, or German beer (anything except Warsteiner)? Or was this a campaign to show that they support US brewed beer only, for the sake of the economy?

[Edited 2009-07-29 15:54:47]

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3810 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Thread starter):
there's very little pretentiousness associated with them.

Or flavor, so good choice  thumbsup  Wink


User currently offlineBoeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3777 times:



Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
Sergeant Crowley went for a Blue Moon.

LMAO... Serious?

And Budlight... YUCK! I don't even drink and that is nasty. It's summer Mr. President, go with Bud Light Lime.  rotfl 



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3773 times:

I understand the desire for an American-brewed beer to be served at the White House - that's been a tradition for quite some time now.

But Bud Light? Really poor decision. There are hundreds of fabulous American microbreweries that actually make an enjoyable beer - not one that you drink to get drunk. Something from the Boston area, be it Sam Adams, Harpoon, Ipswich Brewing Co., something from Chicago, or something else (I'm sure any brewery in the US could have a case of beer to the White House within 24 hours if the President of the United States requested it) - so many great American choices out there - no need to go with one of the Big Three, who produce quantity over quality.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

He probably chose Bud because it is THE American beer, and he probably chose the light version for "promoting" something like: "Not too much beer, folks".

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
Professor Gates opted for Red Stripe

Not bad! Big grin

Patrick


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7191 posts, RR: 86
Reply 20, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3752 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Hey if he wanted to give Chicago respect he would have chose Pabst!

 checkmark   rotfl   yes 

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
Sergeant Crowley went for a Blue Moon

Chicks drink Blue Moon; with an orange slice no less.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 15):
Why didn't they have a Carlsberg, or German beer

Cause Obama isn't Merkel.  Yeah sure

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 17):
go with Bud Light Lime.

or...





Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
Not bad!

 yuck 

Where is that hereditary taste for beer my friend?


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

He picked BUD LIGHT and not BUD LIGHT LIME?!?!?! WHY!!!!


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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

Corona is the beer to just chill and relax with, and I'd hardly say that's a "pretentious" beer. If we're staying American, then I'd definitely agree with a Sam Adams.


Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3738 times:



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 19):
He probably chose Bud because it is THE American beer, and he probably chose the light version for "promoting" something like: "Not too much beer, folks".

I bet you would have gotten Obama to get a keg of either Fiege or Krombacher Weizen.  Wink

Quoting FXramper (Reply 20):
Cause Obama isn't Merkel.

What does Merkel have to do with this? Hell, for all I know, Angie doesn't even drink beer.

Quoting San747 (Reply 22):
Corona is the beer to just chill and relax with, and I'd hardly say that's a "pretentious" beer.

From what I was told, isn't Corona also considered piss?


User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3726 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 23):

Quoting San747 (Reply 22):
Corona is the beer to just chill and relax with, and I'd hardly say that's a "pretentious" beer.

From what I was told, isn't Corona also considered piss?

Well I base my opinions on the quality of beer (personally) on two things- taste, and whether I would drink it to get drunk.

Bud Light- not fantastic taste, but I wouldn't feel guilty drinking 5 of them per hour and getting drunk. Same thing with beers like Coors, PBR, MGD, etc.

Corona- I like a lot (maybe others don't) but I wouldn't dream of drinking a shitload of them all at once to get wasted. Same thing with beers like Heineken, Sam Adams, Newcastle, etc.

Plus, a 12-pack of Corona usually costs at least $16, whereas if I look at the right place, I can get a 30-pack of Bud Light for the exact same price.



Scotty doesn't know...
25 GuitrThree : It's the White House. Don't you think as they sat down they could be asked what they would like? I mean, they serve $100/lb Kobe Beef on Wednesdays...
26 SW733 : Because he's straight?
27 L-188 : I drank a Bud light at the Elks club over the 4th...nasty....but I got a "wounded warrier" pint glass with it with most of the proceeds going to that
28 Asuflyer05 : Where in DC can you pick up Wailua Wheat?
29 FuturePilot16 : You know what, Glenn Beck ( who else? ) called him a racist today. I'm surprised Rush Limbaugh hasn't come out and trash him for choosing the nations
30 Homer71 : Awesome...
31 Garnetpalmetto : No clue, but I just assumed that if you can get it in Raleigh, NC you could find it in Washington, DC.
32 Baroque : As long as he does not end up sadder but wiser.
33 Tsaord : The things people talk about lol. The type of beer obama and company will drink is subject to debate is it? America doesn't want to fix itself is that
34 Alias1024 : All this talk of beer is making me thirsty. I'm heading to the fridge to grab a bottle of Fat Tire. You all have a good night.
35 Dreadnought : Notice how I can tie in this issue with Obamacare: I find it disconcerting that Obama is basically forcing Bud Light on these guys. Couldn't he have s
36 FlyDeltaJets87 : Sam Adams - the only redeeming quality in Boston. BTW, I picked up a couple Alaska Ambers today. Can't wait to get them home and have them. WIN!
37 NA : He´s been to many countries now and serves American beer, and a mediocre one, and that even from the biggest player? Poor decision. If he would serve
38 Revelation : Ironic, since it's the name of a strip club about an hour from Boston... Geez, can't you read? So willing to have a go at Obama, you blow right by th
39 Max550 : Good to see the media focusing on the important things. Definitely would be my choice. Heck, it's even better than neutral ground because he definitel
40 Dc9northwest : This has done it. I mean, really, BEER? How horrible. I was still giving Obama a chance to prove himself. I mean, I like the fact that someone who use
41 Revelation : Like it or not, a big factor in who you vote for is their character, and one reason Obama won big is that he has character. I think this is a splendi
42 Us330 : Blue Moon is a poor man's Hoegarden
43 Post contains images Planespotting : These pretzels are making me thirsty.
44 Max550 : I agree with you. The problem I have is with the media, not Obama. I think it's great he's getting these guys together for a beer, but I don't think
45 D L X : Why is their choice of beers news?
46 Planespotting : Exactly - this is just a fun little thread that hasn't turned into ultra-partisan wind blowing. Kudos to all!
47 Revelation : Sure, but that battle has been fought and lost a long time ago. The part of the media dedicated to "hard news" has been shrinking for the last 10-20
48 D L X : Indeed. Dylan Ratigan was upset about that earlier this week (before he followed the rest of the media into talking about Gates) saying that he'd lov
49 Dreadnought : Jeez, lighten up. I was just having a little fun with a complete non-issue. Who cares which beer they choose, and I don't bitch when someone invites
50 Sabena332 : Red Stripe isn't that bad in my opinion. I drunk a couple of them on a Reggae party a few weeks ago and it was really refreshing in this warm summer
51 RedFlyer : Can't believe the most powerful man in the world with pretty much anything at his disposal would choose to serve up a s*** beer like Bud-Lite. But I w
52 Post contains links and images Revelation : Beer a complete non-issue? What, are you CRAZY???? Even the sainted Ronald Reagan quaffed a mug from time to time:
53 Post contains links LAXintl : Massachusetts Democrat Congressman Richard Neal dislikes the White House choice of beers. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
54 D L X : Yeah, because I'm sure Crowley and Gates haven't had their fair share of Sammies in the past.
55 JBirdAV8r : Yeah, but at least Ronnie took a priest with him to confess his sins shortly afterward!!
56 Revelation : LOL! Yes, but note the priest isn't shaking his head in shame!
57 Post contains images Bwest : Thank you for supporting our economy, mr Obama! Belgium needs all the support it can get
58 AGM100 : I think the President did the right thing here , I believe that it is political ... but I like it . That professor is trouble though , seems like a pr
59 L-188 : Enjoy them, they are pretty good. One word....MICROBREW. I think his choice of beers was political. He picked what he thought was a "working mans" be
60 Post contains images Revelation : Damn, the White House does it in style: frosted mugs and peanuts in silver bowls! The virtually untouched frosted beer on the left is Biden's, the on
61 Mt99 : So you are assuming his intent - then criticizing it. LOL how funny. How could anyone win? It proves your bias. Seriously, what would you have chosen
62 L-188 : Biased, I'm not the biased.... I just don't like the man, his politics and his belief system.
63 Alias1024 : This winter if you can get your hands on some Alaskan Smoked Porter make sure to try it. It's a good porter with a wonderful hint of smoked bacon, an
64 Canoecarrier : If he was a uniter not a divider he would have asked for an Alaskan Amber or Fat Tire. Dare to dream. No surprises here, Mr. President chose an "I'm
65 L-188 : Fruit doesn't belong in Beer. I don't care what anybody from Corona says. You can tell the character of a beer by it's color.
66 RedFlyer : Don't be a douchebag, Rev...those are obviously pretzels in silver bowls.
67 ABQ747 : Fat Tire is horrible. I tried it one time, and I almost threw up. I couldn't finish off the entire bottle, so I had to throw it away.
68 Max550 : I don't know when he changed his mind, but Gates had a Sam Adams Light.
69 Post contains links BMI727 : Like that beer commercial says: "The only thing that should be in your beer is beer!" Anyway, I like to think that the summit ended something like th
70 Slider : Obama had to drink a Bud Light because it’s union made. No need to analyze his shitty taste in beer, it was a calculated political move, especially
71 Mt99 : Of course! The fact that you and others around here are shocked about this is what is laughable. If you are shocked it means you and reality are not
72 Michlis : And the collective carbon footprint for this meeting was...?
73 Seb146 : So, people are pissed off over what type of beer the president is having while he is trying to correct several problems? Geez... Get over it. So, he
74 Post contains links Max550 : I don't know why everyone thinks this is a political move. Obama clearly has a preference for Bud, here's an article from last year where he was drink
75 DocLightning : Of course, I'm partial to Asian beers, but I suppose he's got to go with American beers, so that is a perfect selection. Bud Light? Come on, Mr. Prez
76 Max550 : You know that 90% of brewers are unionized?
77 Slider : Well, if I were from Chicago and were in Obama’s shoes, I’d have picked a favorite microbrew, local joint, something like that. Maybe Goose Islan
78 AGM100 : Correct problems ??? Like what ... racism? Please, he is covering his ass big time .. all he did was call a cop stupid before he knew that the hell w
79 Post contains links Revelation : Worthy of bringing bacl this thread: A Tale Told by an Idiot Really funny, especially if you've spent some time in or around Boston. Selected quote: (
80 L-188 : That confirms it, the man has no taste...
81 787seattle : No offense to anyone, but why is this such a newsworthy issue? Can't a guy (the POTUS no less) have a beer without having to be bothered?
82 AirframeAS : Wrong Seinfeld charactor.... I believe that was Bania that said that. I agree that Sam Adams would have made an appropriate choice. After all, it is
83 Revelation : An even better extract from ref in #79: FOOL: What? No beer nuts? BARACK: Silence, Fool! Or back to Delaware with you. FOOL (sniffing his glass, suspi
84 Mt99 : Wrong.. "These pretzels are making me thirsty" are Kramer's lines for the Woody Allen movie.
85 WildcatYXU : To all Bud bashers: the beer is as it is because this is what the market wants. Period.
86 Seb146 : Actually, what he REALLY said (for all you revisionists) was the *actions* of the police were stupid. Not the actual cop himself. Not that it matters
87 DocLightning : Fat tire. Yuck. Tastes like someone dropped last week's gym shorts in it.
88 AirframeAS : I think you need to look a bit more closely at the Sam Adams logo.... that should say enough and erase your PDX image. Right! I stand corrected.
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