Allrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 1409 posts, RR: 3 Posted (3 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1146 times:
Thought I would share this with you:
Fifteen of Australia's top climate experts explain how we know humans are altering the atmosphere and why we must act now. Sydney Morning Herald
Just a note for those who would argue that we have less CO2 in our atmosphere now than in prehistoric times, the Sun's output has increased (*slowly*) over its lifespan so less atmospheric CO2 is now required to generate higher temperatures than a couple of hundred million years ago.
Fair article but hardly a subject to be explained in 971 words and no diagrams?? I thought it a bit disappointing and hardly well enough presented to outflank the Fieldings of this polity?
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1054 times:
Quoting Allrite (Thread starter): top climate experts explain how we know humans are altering the atmosphere and why we must act now.
So much hypocrisy!
Tell me how many are ready to totally give up their cars and other polluting devices that they own or use.
Would they all be ready to stop flying on commercial airplanes? Not talking about electromagnetic pollution from cell phones, GPS, TVs, WiFi, and so much more that I can't think about at this time.
The same as China or India or other nations will not put an end to their polluting industries to please the "climate change buffs".
They say that even cows are creating a lot of pollution. Maybe all the cows should be killed in first place?
My idea is that governments are playing the climate change tune over and over just so they can create more taxes and bring in more money.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11715 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1045 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2): Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
top climate experts explain how we know humans are altering the atmosphere and why we must act now.
So much hypocrisy!
What a bunch of crap. The world is warming, but it is a natural cycle, not created by mankind's industry and cow farts. The report sites a 0.8 degree increase in average temps since 1850 (159 years). It also predicts a 6 degree increase in temps between 2009 and 2100 (91 years). While the historic temp changes have not been linear, they also have never increased on a curve of that magnitude, either.
Why don't they ever talk about there was no way to get global temp averages accurately (because ice cores will not give you data down to individual degrees, much less fractions of a degree) before 1939, when WWII began, and it was only then necessary to get such data.
Why don't they talk about the cooling of the 1950s 1970s and the current time? Why don't they mention these same scientists were screaming about global cooling in the 1970s.
If CO2 is such a big pollutant, why don't we plant more trees?
Why don't they ever talk about how much CO2 the earth produces itself (like from volcano's)?
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2): My idea is that governments are playing the climate change tune over and over just so they can create more taxes and bring in more money.
That is it, it is just a big money grab. How is paying higher taxes going to solve global warming? It won't as the politicians will not spend that money on what ever they promise the scientists. They will lie to the scientists, like they do everyone else, and spend it the way they see fit.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 2): They say that even cows are creating a lot of pollution. Maybe all the cows should be killed in first place?
The insect, too. Of everything that lives on the Earth, insects are by far the largest population, estimates are over one billion bugs for each human on Earth. So why are we not worried about bug farts?
Then of course there are scientists that call for crimes against humanity charges or charges of treason against scientists who disagree with them and disprove their theory's.
Global warming caused by human activity? What a bunch of BS. We think we have so much influence over this planet we can and have changed the weather. How arrogant we are.
Michlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1026 times:
Quoting Allrite (Thread starter): Just a note for those who would argue that we have less CO2 in our atmosphere now than in prehistoric times, the Sun's output has increased (*slowly*) over its lifespan so less atmospheric CO2 is now required to generate higher temperatures than a couple of hundred million years ago.
Interesting because the AGW community basically asserts that the Sun's influence has little to do "global warming."
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