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Woman Gets Degree - Sues Uni - Cant Get Job  
User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 812 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3346 times:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/845...-graduate-sues-college-for-tuition

Its just amazing. With the problems you guys are having in America, Uni never guaranteed anyone a job..

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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3321 times:
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Damn! Just when you thought you've seen it all!  hissyfit 

Got a question for anyone out there, this woman got an IT degree, what's the job situation look like for recent IT grads?

Thanks,

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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1887 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3302 times:
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While I can understand her fustration, sue your school because YOU fail to get hired? I don't know anything about this girl but the biggest factor in getting hired is yourself! You can have all the degree's you want but if you fail to make a good impression you wont get hired! What's wrong with those people!


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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12701 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Not to mention this won't look good on her resume....


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User currently offlineTristarAtLCA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3196 times:



Quoting Revelation (Reply 3):
Not to mention this won't look good on her resume....

Just what I was thinking....'Are you the Trina Thompson who sued your school.......yeah....ok, thanks for coming. Bye'

I thought graduates where supposed to be smart!



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11664 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3193 times:



Quoting Joffie (Thread starter):
Uni never guaranteed anyone a job..

It would depend on exactly what the course director/person who got her to sign up told her. Just because it doesn't guarantee you a job doesn't mean that some sort of wild claim wasn't made by the University.



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User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4669 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3189 times:



Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2):
Not to mention this won't look good on her resume....

She is going to have a hard time getting hired, especially given that she takes no responsbility for her own condition.



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Yea, I quit my old career at 27 and went back to school full time to enter aviation and had $400 in my wallet and a new car payment. School was 40hrs a week, I worked 30+ hours a week so I could pay bills and eat, I studied and eneded up as an honors graduate and could not find a job for 2 years after graduation. What did I do..? Not sue anyone... I went back to school...did all of the above ALL OVER AGAIN and bettered my resume and was hired even before graduation. Trust me, after all that hard work the first time going to work retail at Sears was demoralizing. But I refused to get derailed on my goals.

When I was laid off for several months after Sept 2001... I did not sue anyone. I took a job where I was taking home what I was getting taxed before, but I kept a roof over my head, paid my bills and kept my tummy full.....and oh yea, in this period of time my Dad died and my girlfriend walked out on me. Sorry Trina......Sometimes life hands you not what you were expecting and you need to push through it to reach your goals....

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3016 times:



Quoting Revelation (Reply 3):
Not to mention this won't look good on her resume....

How can this affect her resume? She hasn't done anything bad that would make her resume look terrible.

Remember what a resume contains.....



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

I guess she is unaware of this global economic recession that is going on at the moment. She is shooting herself in the foot and blacklisting herself before she even had a chance at a career.
Sounds like she'd be better off as a career student.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2996 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
I quit my old career at 27 and went back to school full time to enter aviation and had $400 in my wallet and a new car payment. School was 40hrs a week, I worked 30+ hours a week so I could pay bills and eat, I studied and eneded up as an honors graduate and could not find a job for 2 years after graduation. What did I do..? Not sue anyone... I went back to school...did all of the above ALL OVER AGAIN and bettered my resume and was hired even before graduation.

I sure hope I can be as lucky as you... I"m about to finish graduate school in the field of regional planning and GIS. All I get from hiring managers (these are entry-level jobs, mind you) are either nothing, or "we're looking for someone who better suits our needs." Personally, I think they're full of it, but what can I do about it besides to do what I can to improve my resume. Apparently, my GIS background does not qualify me to do GIS somehow.

Hello?! I am in the field of nursing here! I spend 8 hours a day lifting people and performing rather nasty duties. People often ask me how the hell I ended up where I am at. Well, it's because of the job market, and for some reason the HR managers are not interested in interviewing me, not even for an entry level position. Each day for me, I get more and more depressed, but like the rest of us, I cannot do anything about it. True, I do have a job, and at this point a job is a job, but I want to be happy with what I do, and right now I am miserable...

Now, you really want to hear something... How about Careerbuilder.com wanting me to pay $150 to have my resume sent out to a number of different recruiters in my area in my selective field of study... Now THAT is beyond wrong IMO... Not to mention, a HUGE waste of money considering how things have gone for me with my job search...



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Most universities make wild claims. In fact when I wanted to do my Master's, one uni here had said their graduates have a '100% record of finding employment'. Yeah right..what kind of employment? Were they employed in a field related to their studies..or were they flipping burgers at Maccas? Well it turned out 4 students with MS degrees were flipping burgers.
But then again you can't really blame the uni, so this girl is taking things a bit too far. I can understand her frustration though.. I never found a suitable job after almost looking for 1yr, thats why I decided to get back to studying.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2996 times:
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Just when I thought people couldn't get any dumber.....this country needs CHANGE allright...let's reinvent our court system to avoid stupid shit like this


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2986 times:



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 11):
But then again you can't really blame the uni, so this girl is taking things a bit too far. I can understand her frustration though.. I never found a suitable job after almost looking for 1yr, thats why I decided to get back to studying.

Oh yeah... It's beyond frusterating, but I do not think sueing your school is the answer. Hell, her field might require an advanced degree. Mine does, and I am more than half-way through it with a respectable 3.61 GPA. I'm still trying to find a job as I posted above, and I still cannot. Either they want someone who is not still in school, as in graduate school in my case, or for some bizarre reason I'm not what they're looking for...

Believe me, I am very frusterated. The job I have now was more or less a promotion from my last job, and it's not all it was cracked up to be...

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 12):
Just when I thought people couldn't get any dumber.....this country needs CHANGE allright...let's reinvent our court system to avoid stupid shit like this

Good luck with that. The way our courts system is, they should replace the Supreme Court Building with a massive circus tent! Eh, while they're at it, the same with the Capitol -- they're nothing more than a bunch of clowns in expensive suits!



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2973 times:
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Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 13):
Mine does, and I am more than half-way through it with a respectable 3.61 GPA. I'm still trying to find a job as I posted above, and I still cannot.

And this moron thinks her 2.7 GPA should give her anything she wants...hell, a 2.7 GPA only proves that you didn't pay attention in school



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3376 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2962 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
How can this affect her resume?

Not her resume as such, unless she is stupid enough to put this on the resume under the "hobbies and interests" section. But these days a lot of employers will check google or facebook or whatever to find out what kind of person they are hiring. This story will no doubt show up quite high in the search results for at least for the next few weeks/months. Would you hire her after reading she sued her college?



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2949 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 14):
And this moron thinks her 2.7 GPA should give her anything she wants...hell, a 2.7 GPA only proves that you didn't pay attention in school

Uh... actually that's about what I got the first time around in school... but ouch!! Heck, at least I did something about mine... I altimately went back and rounded out my education as a geographer. I got a 3.2 the first semester, and then the final one, I went out with a bang -- earned a 4.0 to close out my undergraduate studies. The rest is history...

In her case, ouch!! She's an IT major? I could see if it were a science major, but jeez...

Granted, I think that figure of 2.7 is pure speculation. For all we know, she could have graduated with a 4.0 (granted that is incredibly unlikely). I know of someone who graduated with a 3.8 and they couldn't find anything. Frankly, it's the job market. Look around. The only thing happening is people getting laid off. It's all over the papers that college recruiting is down 22% from last year.

It's the economy. Granted there are stronger signs that the economy is making a comeback, but I think it will still be another 6 months or so before jobs start growing again. That was even on Good Morning America or some other morning news show this morning as a matter of fact... I was listening in as I assisted senior citizens with their daily living tasks...



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2943 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 13):
Either they want someone who is not still in school, as in graduate school in my case, or for some bizarre reason I'm not what they're looking for...

Tell me about it. I am so sick of getting emails that start with 'thank you for your recent application but unfortunately...' I really don't understand what these people are looking for. In my case I have a MS in Medical Biotechnology and an MBA in marketing. I have a fair bit of work experience, but I had not been working for 8 months (when I was doing my MBA). So yeah there is a gap of 8 months between jobs..but other than that I think my 6.2 GPA (out of 7) and my work experience should be enough..but apparently not. I've stopped looking for jobs now..as I will be busy for the next 3 years..and at the end at least I know I'll get a job (as this country desperately needs doctors).



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2941 times:



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
In my case I have a MS in Medical Biotechnology and an MBA in marketing. I have a fair bit of work experience, but I had not been working for 8 months (when I was doing my MBA).



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
but other than that I think my 6.2 GPA (out of 7) and my work experience should be enough..

Two MASTERS degrees?? Oh man, I feel your pain!! Apparently your academic system works on a 7 point system. I'd say 6.2 is pretty darned impressive. They're in need of doctors where you're at and yet they turn you away...

To me, that's just like a starving hobo turning down an offer for a free hamburger because it's not fillet mignon...



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2909 times:
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Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
Granted, I think that figure of 2.7 is pure speculation

Nope, she's proudly boasting it:

As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/03/new.york.jobless.graduate/



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9234 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2832 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 19):
Nope, she's proudly boasting it:

As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims.

Thanks for the link proving that she's boasting about her "academic excellence..."

I hate to break it to her, but there are employers who won't even look at candidates like her unless they have a 3.0 or better, which apparently, she does not...



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2826 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 19):
solid attendance record.

Attendance record?!?!?!?!  Wow!
What does she want?
A gold star sticker to put on her lunch pale?
Hardly any of my college professors took attendance.
This lady is cookoo!



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10095 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2819 times:
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Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 14):
And this moron thinks her 2.7 GPA should give her anything she wants...hell, a 2.7 GPA only proves that you didn't pay attention in school

Hey, I paid plenty of attention....when I went to class.... Smile

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 20):
I hate to break it to her, but there are employers who won't even look at candidates like her unless they have a 3.0 or better, which apparently, she does not...

Hell, I've seen a 3.5 GPA under the "suggested qualifications" or whatever section on job descriptions.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16):
Uh... actually that's about what I got the first time around in school... but ouch!!

Yeah, me too. Finally finished my bachelors earlier this summer - ended up with a 2.80, thanks to a couple years I wish I could forget, that then led to me taking a few years off of school.

But hey, I've gotten some great work experience during those years off - and that directly led to me getting the job I have now (which I got before I even finished school).



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2789 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 14):
And this moron thinks her 2.7 GPA should give her anything she wants...hell, a 2.7 GPA only proves that you didn't pay attention in school

My GPA was 2.8-2.9 I think.

When I factor in that I was working full time because I wasn't blessed with rich parents and most of the aviation classes I had where graded on 7 point instead of 10 point scales I don't feel so bad.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39905 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2747 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 23):
When I factor in that I was working full time because I wasn't blessed with rich parents

Same here. I had to work my a$$ off and didn't have rich parents to bankroll my education. I still ended up with a 3.3 overall GPA.
Honestly, does anyone ever care?
None of my jobs asked for transcripts or cared about my GPA in college.



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25 Us330 : Employers and firms have drastically scaled back recruitment at some top schools (ie the Ivies)that directly feed into the New York market. Any emplo
26 Carlisle : I love how America works. You can't make money because no one will hire you so the easiest solution for a lot of Americans to do is to file a lawsuit!
27 Boeing74741R : I can't believe what I was reading in that link. I really couldn't. Universities will make wild claims such as 99% employment just to get students to
28 FuturePilot16 : This has absolutely no standing in court. The way I see it, it's an open and shut case. $70,000 because you fail to get a job? That's like me going to
29 Steeler83 : Yep, me too! Primarily my freshman year I'd like to just bury and forget even happened. I had the absolute worst roomates anyone could have! Plus, I
30 Pacificjourney : This chick is pissing into the wind with this legal action and should just pull her finger out and get on with life BUT it does raise an interesting i
31 SW733 : Nah, come on, we all pad our resumes...she can call it "legal experience" I'll end up having a Master's in Aero Engineering and an MBA...it's painful
32 Boeing74741R : A degree opens up more possibilities to those who hold one over those who don't. But it isn't to say that it's a given it will. As I said earlier, it
33 Babybus : They probably meant within your lifetime. There are some courses out there that do promise all sorts of things. They normally get some really naff co
34 Us330 : Depends on the company. Some would prefer the experience, others would see the person with academic honors as smart, and a quick learner, and thus, e
35 BMI727 : I had a professor who gave a really interesting lecture on Christianity in China. Problem was this was a calculus class. Still escaped my first year
36 Steeler83 : From what I read, that lecture must have been about as interesting as a five-hour-long speech by Ben Stein, or perhaps I missed the mark with that on
37 Post contains links YOWza : I looked up the curriculum for her college's IT program: http://www.monroecollege.edu/academi...ationtechnology/degreerequirements Frankly I'm not sur
38 BMI727 : It was, and it ended with "well, I guess we better do some calculus" when there were about 5 minutes left in the class. Apparently this guy was some
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