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User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

I am reaching the end of the life of my tires. They are the stock goodyears that came with my 05 Nissan Murano and 3 of the 4 lasted me 53k miles. Here is my question. I only plan on keeping the car another 12-18 months more. Can I put on a cheaper tire since I don't care if the tire lasts me 4 more years....is there anything wrong with the cheaper tires such as a Hankook opposed to a goodyear or michelin?

Thanks

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User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5600 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2904 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Thread starter):
is there anything wrong with the cheaper tires such as a Hankook opposed to a goodyear or michelin?

No nothing wrong at all. Tires are a very standard commodity as is their technology. The main difference is noise and at the edge of performance. If you don't care about possibly more noise (sometimes a lot more) or taking your car to the edge of it's performance envelope, then going with a tire from a decent supplier is fine.

Saying that, there are several "unknowns" that can match toe-to-toe Michelin and Goodyear in performance, wear, and noise. Hankook is one of those.

http://www.tire-information-world.com/tire-brands.html

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The Hankook Tire group, based in Seoul, South Korea is the eigth largest tire company in the world. Established in 1941 as the "Chosun Tire Company", it changed to "Hankook Tire Manufacturing" in 1968.

Hankook Tire is mostly known its radial tire and bias-ply tire production and supplies original equipment tires to the Ford Motor Company, General Motors, International Truck and Engine Corporation, among others. It produces about 50 million tires annually exporting about half to over 170 countries. It has 4,422 permanent staff worldwide.

Tugg



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

I always go to tire rack for my tire needs and they've been great. My new $60 tires have the best reviews and highest ratings and ironically they are among the cheapest.

http://www.tirerack.com/


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

One has to be careful going for 'cheaper' tires. Many vehicles have very specific tire requirements. For example, 2 tires could be the same size, but have two different load capacities, with a cheaper tire not of sufficent load capacity which can cause problems. Cheaper tires could come from China or other 3rd world countries with possible quality problems as well warrenty coverage. Cheaper tires may not be as good in wet weather, could affect handling or not as well constructed if you hit a pothole.

As a previous poster noted, go to a website like tirerack.com as their website can help you find alternative tires by different companies and prices. Many large tire companies offer different brands with different price points and quality. BF Goodrich tire is owned by Michelin. Goodyear I believe has a close relationship or owns Dunlap. Are you a member of Sam's Club or Costco or BJ's Wholesale clubs? They offer very competitive pricing, name brands and low priced installation. Try your local Wal-Mart branch with tire sales and install service, they may be able to offer a good deal and low install costs. Go on the net and check local stores and chains.


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2822 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
Cheaper tires could come from China or other 3rd world countries with possible quality problems as well warrenty coverage. Cheaper tires may not be as good in wet weather, could affect handling or not as well constructed if you hit a pothole.

I believe that to be able to be marketed in the US, the tires (and other products in general) have to comply to certain standards. For tires, the standards are issued by US Department of Transportation, and every tire sold in the US must have DOT code. (cmiiw) So, we can assume that all tires sold in the US are safe to use.


User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2814 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Thread starter):
I only plan on keeping the car another 12-18 months more. Can I put on a cheaper tire since I don't care if the tire lasts me 4 more years....is there anything wrong with the cheaper tires such as a Hankook opposed to a goodyear or michelin?

Get a decent tire. Nothing fancy, nothing $$$, but don't go bottom of the barrel. BF Goodrich makes good road tires, and are relatively cheap.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6102 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2807 times:
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I usually buy tires that are a common name brand. I always look at the tires when I buy a car. When I see cheap tires I think that owner skimped on service because they didn't want to spend the money for good stuff. It makes me wonder how much else they skimped on. If a person spends the bucks for good tires you can usually bet they spent money on other repairs too.

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 4):
So, we can assume that all tires sold in the US are safe to use.

True, but the level of quality varies. I work with cars everyday and I deal with tires a lot and you get what you pay for for the most part.



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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2804 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 6):
you get what you pay for for the most part.

True, most of the time. However, like FLY2HMO said, go to http://www.tirerack.com . There we can find cheaper tires that have better quality (according to users' reviews) than more expensive ones from more famous brands.


User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2750 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
Are you a member of Sam's Club or Costco or BJ's Wholesale clubs? They offer very competitive pricing, name brands and low priced installation.

So I had gone to Costcos website a few days ago and they let you put in your car model and they tell you the tires they have for it....They are only showing me $210 Michelins.....I guess I have to call to see if they actually have more at the store.

LIke I said before...I want decent tires, but to drop 1000 bucks for 1 more year of use is not really in my best interest either.


User currently offlineMax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2746 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Reply 8):

Ask them what they have in 235/65-18, that's the tire size. Most places will try to sell you whatever they have in stock in that size, they'll go as far as saying they're the only ones in that size sometimes.
From looking at Tirerack.com there are some Kumho's for $93, everything else is $130 and up. Discount Tire Direct (tires.com) has Falkens for $117. Figure about $30-40 more per tire for mounting and balancing (probably a bit high).

The one thing to be careful of with the reviews is you want to make sure they are on a vehicle of similar size. Just because a tire works well on a 2600lb Civic doesn't mean it's going to be as good on a 4000lb Murano.


User currently offlineMax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

You can also check out mavistire.com. They have a bunch of locations in the NY area and seem to have decent prices.

User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6102 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
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Quoting Max550 (Reply 9):
The one thing to be careful of with the reviews is you want to make sure they are on a vehicle of similar size. Just because a tire works well on a 2600lb Civic doesn't mean it's going to be as good on a 4000lb Murano.

Also see how and where a tire is being used. A tire that works great for a guy in snowy Michigan may not be a an ideal tire for a guy in sunny California.



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5712 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2722 times:



Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 5):
Get a decent tire. Nothing fancy, nothing $$$, but don't go bottom of the barrel.

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Even if you plan to keep it for another year or so I still would buy some quality tire (especially if they are so dirt cheap in the US). Engine is not what keeps you on the road.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 11):
A tire that works great for a guy in snowy Michigan may not be a an ideal tire for a guy in sunny California.

That's why they invented this thing called "winter tires"...  Wink

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 4):
For tires, the standards are issued by US Department of Transportation, and every tire sold in the US must have DOT code. (cmiiw) So, we can assume that all tires sold in the US are safe to use.

Your assumption is wrong. DOT code is a standard for marking of tires. It does in no way guarantee quality or safety.
Autocar magazine recently run an article where they compared cheap Chinese "brands" such as Wanli, Linglong, GT Radial against Continental...

http://www.conti-online.com/generato...g/autocar_tyre_test_article_en.pdf


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6102 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2711 times:
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Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 12):
Your assumption is wrong. DOT code is a standard for marking of tires. It does in no way guarantee quality or safety.
Autocar magazine recently run an article where they compared cheap Chinese "brands" such as Wanli, Linglong, GT Radial against Continental...

That is like the DOT rating on motorcycle helments. Many have DOT on them, but not all offer the same level of protection and quality.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 12):
That's why they invented this thing called "winter tires"...

Ah.... That's no fun.  Wink

Chinese tires leave a lot to be desired. I have a good friend who worked at a shop in the 1980s (in Detroit) that sold tires made in the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) and those things sucked. He had lots of returns.



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8269 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

Check around the advertised specials and check Sears and Wal-Mart type stores, either online or as you're driving by them. There will be various tire stores in your area that also might have sales going. As long as you don't need them this week it's relatively easy to wait for a sale.

My feeling is that the difference between the cheapest tires and moderately priced ones is less than my auto insurance deductible.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2705 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Reply 8):
LIke I said before...I want decent tires, but to drop 1000 bucks for 1 more year of use is not really in my best interest either.

Well then you should really try to milk the ones you have the rest of the way. Your not going to find a decent tire for real cheap and thinking of the person who gets the vehicle next also comes into play.


User currently offlineMax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2705 times:



Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 12):
Even if you plan to keep it for another year or so I still would buy some quality tire (especially if they are so dirt cheap in the US). Engine is not what keeps you on the road.

Definitely. No matter what safety features your vehicle has, their #1 safety feature is the tires. Everything else can protect you in an accident, but the tires are often the difference in avoiding an accident.


User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5600 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2689 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 15):
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 8):
LIke I said before...I want decent tires, but to drop 1000 bucks for 1 more year of use is not really in my best interest either.

Well then you should really try to milk the ones you have the rest of the way. Your not going to find a decent tire for real cheap and thinking of the person who gets the vehicle next also comes into play.

I can't remember the last time I paid over $500 for all four tires mounted & balanced and this includes my last purchase of 215/65-16 Goodyear Integrity's.

You can find good, inexpensive tires out there that are safe and handle well.

Tugg



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6102 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2667 times:
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Quoting Max550 (Reply 16):
Everything else can protect you in an accident, but the tires are often the difference in avoiding an accident.

Especially in poor road conditions, like wet roads.



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User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2664 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 17):
I can't remember the last time I paid over $500 for all four tires mounted & balanced and this includes my last purchase of 215/65-16 Goodyear Integrity's.

Issue is I have 18's on my car so under $500 seems almost impossible.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 15):
and thinking of the person who gets the vehicle next also comes into play.

Ehh.....they are buying the car...let them replace if they don't like it.

Thank you all for your responses so far. I called Mavis like MAX550 Said and I got a quute for a BF Goodrich all year round for $132 per tire with Installation. I am leaning towards that at this point.


User currently offlinePropilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

From what I have experienced with tires, I would prefer Bridgestone or Goodyear. Ever since I purchased a new Honda Civic with Goodyear and my current one with Bridgestone tires, they are awesome. No bulges, no air bubbles, maximum durability, they last baby. The only problem I've had with tires, was Dunlop, man they grew air bubbles in them as soon as I purchased new tires, dont buy them, unless Dunlop has made changes to their design specifications. Yes, I would definitely look at the brand of a tire, even if its used, read the specifications, read the ratings of the manufactures and its long life durability.

User currently offlineMax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2649 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Reply 19):
Thank you all for your responses so far. I called Mavis like MAX550 Said and I got a quute for a BF Goodrich all year round for $132 per tire with Installation. I am leaning towards that at this point.

I'm guessing they're the Long Trail T/A Tour? That's cheaper than what they cost on Tire Rack even with installation. The reviews are pretty positive, I'd go for it. I don't think you'll get a cheaper price anywhere else.
Make sure you get an estimate with everything included so they don't try to charge you for anything extra. You never know what some of those places will try to add on.


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2642 times:
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Just got a set of Sumitomo HTR tires for $320 all in on my Nissan lease.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2639 times:



Quoting JFK69 (Reply 19):
Issue is I have 18's on my car so under $500 seems almost impossible.

It is, I have a Maxima with the 18s and my out the door price was a cool grand.

Quoting JFK69 (Reply 19):
Ehh.....they are buying the car...let them replace if they don't like it.

Gotcha tho I don't share that mindset.

Quoting Propilot83 (Reply 20):
From what I have experienced with tires, I would prefer Bridgestone or Goodyear. Ever since I purchased a new Honda Civic with Goodyear and my current one with Bridgestone tires, they are awesome. No bulges, no air bubbles, maximum durability, they last baby. The only problem I've had with tires, was Dunlop, man they grew air bubbles in them as soon as I purchased new tires, dont buy them, unless Dunlop has made changes to their design specifications. Yes, I would definitely look at the brand of a tire, even if its used, read the specifications, read the ratings of the manufactures and its long life durability

I researched it to death. The big three are Goodyear, Bridgestone and Michelin. When it comes to really depending on your tires I wouldn't venture outside of this.


User currently offlineMax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2627 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 23):
I researched it to death. The big three are Goodyear, Bridgestone and Michelin. When it comes to really depending on your tires I wouldn't venture outside of this.

Those are the big three, but they make a lot of the other brands too. Bridgestone makes Firestone, Goodyear makes Dunlop and Michelin makes Uniroyal and BFGoodrich.

My experience has been that it usually comes down to the individual line rather than the brand. I've had good sets and bad sets from the same companies. I actually prefer the $70 Coopers I have on my car now to the $170 Bridgestones it used to have.


25 L410Turbolet : Pirelli or Continental is at least as good if not (often) better. And making assumptions based just on the brand is superficial. Example: Bridgestone
26 NIKV69 : All of which I wouldn't touch. Firestone is crap, Dunlop is B list as is Uniroyal and BF is overrated. Conti is a good tire for value. Pirelli is awe
27 Afterburner : No. My assumption is every tire sold (legally) in the US is save to use. If you don't agree with my assumption then you are questioning US Department
28 Mirrodie : I can see your predicament. As I mentioned briefly, I have a lease Im getting rid of soon, also a Nissan. Honestly, after a bit of research, I went t
29 Falstaff : Are you an automotive professional? Do you work with tires on a daily basis? They are all safe to use, but they are not all the same.
30 TSS : L410Turbolet is correct: The DOT code is nothing more than a way to identify a tire's size, model, production plant, and week of manufacture (the las
31 Afterburner : Of course. Manufacturers create products with different levels of quality, different prices, for different markets.
32 Max550 : They do tests to make sure it's safe, as in it won't fall apart, but not much beyond that. All of the tests are done on machines though, there's no r
33 Vapar8 : $210 a tire for that size tire really doesn't sound to bad. Every time I have tried to save a little on tires I have regretted it. Suck it up get the
34 Falstaff : I had that happen to an Oldmobile 98 Regency that had Firestones on it, five years before the Firestone debacle. I later got a set of recall tires (I
35 L-188 : I've had really good luck wth Cooper tires. I have to pull the studs on my old winter tires and turn them into my summer tires. My current winters nee
36 L410Turbolet : Let's put it this way: safe to USE and safe to DRIVE are two completely different things.
37 Post contains images Afterburner : I believe the main use of tires IS for driving (tires are put on wheels to make vehicles more comfortable and safer to drive). How many new tires sol
38 L410Turbolet : The latter is probably the safest use for those obscure Chinese "brands"... I as well as others tried (and obviously failed) to explain you what the
39 Afterburner : Forget about the DOT code. Let's talk about safety standards. Developed countries (like the US, UK, Germany, etc) have standards that describe the mi
40 Max550 : Right, every tire meets a minimum safety standard. That does not mean that every tire is just as safe as all the others. Think of it like a car, sure
41 Afterburner : I know. That's why I wrote this:
42 Dazed767 : I got my Hankook's a year ago and 15,000 miles later I'm still very happy. Even during the week long torrential rains from T.S. Fay they handled well.
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