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Sotomayor Confirmed!  
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11351 posts, RR: 52
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Regardless of your political ideology, I think this is a celebratory moment that this country has come to an age where our highest court, as well as the entire judiciary as a whole, is looking more like the country at large.

Congratulations, JUSTICE Sotomayor.


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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Congratulations indeed, may she serve long and well!!

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

Viva Justice Sotomayor!  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1353 times:



Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
I think this is a celebratory moment that this country has come to an age where our highest court, as well as the entire judiciary as a whole, is looking more like the country at large.

Why ? because she is Hispanic ? or Empathetic ? Really not that ground breaking unless you are surprised that a Latino can actually make it to this level ... I am not .



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11351 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1330 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 3):
Why ? because she is Hispanic ? or Empathetic ? Really not that ground breaking unless you are surprised that a Latino can actually make it to this level ... I am not .

AGM, I actually empathize with your position.  Wink (Sorry, couldn't resist the use of that word.)

Personally, I see it quite similarly to how I see the election of Obama. Does it mean that we today have changed? No. It doesn't. It's evidence that change has already occurred. And that's a good thing!

I think you would agree with me that the past has not been kind to many minority groups, and that in large part, the present shows that minorities are more integrated than ever. We're not all the way there, but we're well on our way to being the more perfect union our founders wanted us to be.

So is this confirmation groundbreaking? Yes and no: yes in that we have finally broke the ground, but no, in that it is not proof that we could not have broken ground until this moment. Yes in that a Latina has taken the stage, no in that this country was poised possibly for a long time to recognize that a Latina can make it to this level.



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3069 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

I'm also not happy and think it's a sad day for the US justice system.Sotomayor is just to radical for my taste.I think she got a free ride and the same criteria was not applied as with others judges.But that's the democrats way.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1321 times:



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 5):
I think she got a free ride and the same criteria was not applied as with others judges.But that's the democrats way.

What ever happened to that Republican 'firewall'?
A third of teh Republican party went along with the Democrats so you can't put this all on the Democrats.



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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2244 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1313 times:

Congrats to Justice Sotomayor - hopefully she will judge fairly and not let emotion dictate her decisions.

Kudos to the Republicans voting against her for keeping the whole process civil and professional.



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3069 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1310 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):


Quoting PSA53 (Reply 5):
I think she got a free ride and the same criteria was not applied as with others judges.But that's the democrats way.

What ever happened to that Republican 'firewall'?
A third of teh Republican party went along with the Democrats so you can't put this all on the Democrats.

True.But the writing was on the wall already before the first hearings were cast.But to have the Repubs due an all out negative media blitz on Sotomayor was simply not good politics.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1306 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Reply 7):
Kudos to the Republicans voting against her for keeping the whole process civil and professional.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...republicans-vote-for-sotomayor.php

Here's who they are: Lamar Alexander (TN), Kit Bond (MO), Susan Collins (ME), Lindsey Graham (SC), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Mel Martinez (FL), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

Worth noting, the only Latino Republican in the Senate voted in favor of Sotomayor.
So I guess the Republican lynch mob are going attack Latinos now.  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2244 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1304 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
So I guess the Republican lynch mob are going attack Latinos now.

Not in Texas, they would be seriously outnumbered! Big grin



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1304 times:



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 8):
True.But the writing was on the wall already before the first hearings were cast.But to have the Repubs due an all out negative media blitz on Sotomayor was simply not good politics.

Keep in mind the Republicans are a irrelevant.
They are only 40% of the Senate and she could have won confirmation without a single Republican vote.



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User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4682 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1284 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Reply 7):
Congrats to Justice Sotomayor - hopefully she will judge fairly and not let emotion dictate her decisions.

Congratulations indeed. I do believe the the confirmation process has reminded her to judge by the facts and not with her emotion.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1272 times:



Quoting PSA53 (Reply 5):
I'm also not happy and think it's a sad day for the US justice system.Sotomayor is just to radical for my taste.I think she got a free ride and the same criteria was not applied as with others judges.But that's the democrats way.

In the grand scheme this is really much ado about nothing. She is going to vote exactly the way Ruth Bader would on key issues. I do congratulate her though, as much as I disagree with her views it is a huge accomplishment.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
So I guess the Republican lynch mob are going attack Latinos now.

No just people that they don't share views with. Why you making this racial?


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1262 times:



Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
So is this confirmation groundbreaking? Yes and no:

I get your post DLX , it is well said.

So what of Clarance Thomas .... ? That wasn't so much of a historic event huh ? he just didn't fit the idealistic model... Did Jesse call him uncle Tom ? I forget ... but it seems I do recall that . Liberals pick and choose the historic event to maximize the credit for the minorities.

Its all good , she will do fine ...



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1255 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 14):
So what of Clarance Thomas .... ? That wasn't so much of a historic event huh ?

If you ask about Clarence Thomas because of his race, Thurgood Marshall got there before he did.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1240 times:



Quoting WestWing (Reply 15):
Thurgood Marshall got there before he did.

My Mistake , correct . Its hard to imagine how Justice Marshall achieved what he did in such a time as he lived in. Pretty tough guy , It always amazes me too read about African Americans who achieved so much while others were living with no rights at all. How did they go to University , Become Doctors , Lawyers , Scientists and Start companies , achieve so much while other African Americans were so oppressed. What made them different..



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1229 times:



Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
Regardless of your political ideology, I think this is a celebratory moment that this country has come to an age where our highest court, as well as the entire judiciary as a whole, is looking more like the country at large.

I would agree it is a moment to celebrate the order and transition, but as to the rest, since justice is supposed to be blind what the ethinic or gender make up of the court is should not be of any interest.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
What ever happened to that Republican 'firewall'?
A third of teh Republican party went along with the Democrats so you can't put this all on the Democrats.

Whatever happened to the independence of democrats? They voted in lockstep.

I think it is fitting that an ex-comedian turned Senator read the vote into the record. It's a one for one exchange so no gain and no loss.


User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1212 times:



Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 12):
I do believe the the confirmation process has reminded her to judge by the facts and not with her emotion.

Her overall record demonstrates that she does judge by the facts and not emotions. You can argue those facts but that is what judging is all about. It is people's fears that are causing them to question if she will be a fair and straight forward jurist to sit on our Supreme Court.

Quoting DXing (Reply 17):
Whatever happened to the independence of democrats? They voted in lockstep.

I think they felt it was a good nomination and they agreed with it. Otherwise the Republicans could be accused similarly on Roberts, since they all voted (in lockstep?) to confirm Roberts (as well as the lone Independent; the Democrats split evenly, 22 for and 22 against).


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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1207 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 18):
I think they felt it was a good nomination and they agreed with it. Otherwise the Republicans could be accused similarly on Roberts, since they all voted (in lockstep?) to confirm Roberts (as well as the lone Independent; the Democrats split evenly, 22 for and 22 against).

Agreed and that was the point I was trying to drive home.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1196 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 17):
Whatever happened to the independence of democrats?

They all independently found her to be qualified for the job, just like 9 other Republican Senators.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1191 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
They all independently found her to be qualified for the job, just like 9 other Republican Senators.

 laughing  Sure they did. Of course if this had been going in the other direction the GOP would have been voting "in lockstep". As to your question about the GOP firewall, when you don't have 31 seats there is no such thing as a firewall.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39886 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1174 times:



Quoting DXing (Reply 21):
As to your question about the GOP firewall, when you don't have 31 seats there is no such thing as a firewall.

Well they have 40 and there is a good 10-12 conservative Democrats from southern and rural interior states that could have been persuaded to vote against. That didn't happen because she is well qualified for the job.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1163 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Well they have 40 and there is a good 10-12 conservative Democrats from southern and rural interior states that could have been persuaded to vote against. That didn't happen because she is well qualified for the job.

40 is not good enough and woulda coulda shoulda does not count as a vote. They voted for the Justice. If the situation were reversed the GOP would have been branded as voting in lockstep, rubberstamping, rolling over, etc. etc. as has been done so many times in the past. When the shoe is on the other foot sometimes it pinches eh?


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1162 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 13):
In the grand scheme this is really much ado about nothing. She is going to vote exactly the way Ruth Bader would on key issues.

Shes replacing Souter you know..



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25 DLPMMM : To whom it may concern, We really don't care. Signed, 95% of the USA population.
26 Superfly : The GOP were in lockstep to do great harm to our nation. The Democrats were in lockstep on this vote to confirm a very well qualified judge to the US
27 JpetekYXMD80 : Not at all true.
28 NIKV69 : Thanks but still Left replacing left vote. So true, what is said is that Obama only picked her so he could villify the GOP if they went against her.
29 DXing : Yes, thanks for reaffirming the argument made. Nailed it!
30 Superfly : Yet you cared enough to participate in multiple threads about her confirmation. Kinda like Papa Bush used Clarence Thomas for the same reason.
31 Ken777 : I think a lot of Republicans were walking on thin ice because of the make-up of their voters. And, of these the most impressive is Lindsey Graham. A
32 Superfly : I agree. Same for Lamar Alexander and Kit Bond. They are pretty hardcore right-wing Senators. At least they know a qualified judge when they see one.
33 DXing : Did I say I was part of the 95%? He consistantly said that unless she had a complete meltdown during the judicial hearings he would be voting for her
34 L-188 : Not surprising on a near-party line vote. But the damage to this country and the USSC could be much worse. She at least is replacing another left wing
35 FlyMIA : I am Hispanic and I am definetley not happy having her as a justice. For her to vote for the city and against the firefighters who deserved the highe
36 Cws818 : She IS replacing Justice Souter.
37 AGM100 : She is a Liberal ... that is clear. But it remains to be seen how she will rule on things. Look , the President gets to pick , that's just the way it
38 Yellowstone : No, it's factual. She is the first Latina SC Justice in history. Closer to 15 percent, but you're missing the point. Don't look at Sotomayor as one L
39 Aaron747 : You're missing the point entirely. Puerto Ricans were banned from apartments owned by white NYC landlords routinely for years following WWII...Latino
40 Pellegrine : Congratulations for Sotomayor and all latinos living in the US. I hope she judges by her sensible emotion! As I would! Let the haters fall by the ways
41 Dvk : No, he said that barring a meltdown, she would be confirmed. That wasn't saying from the outset that he would vote for her. He made that decision aft
42 D L X : I think you have bought the Republican propaganda on this case. You can disagree with the law (which is a very reasonable position), but you can't di
43 Superfly : I guess the Republicans were for her before they were against her.
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