Propilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 545 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
Well well well, everyone is now going to report on President Obama's 200 days in office. I guess he is going to get another "report card." I just like to say a few things, Obama is a great outstanding President. It will take a lot of patients to recover from this bad recession. The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what. If there is no bipartisanship, then forget about recovery and health care reform. If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating. Its time for ordinary Americans in this country, that is the middle class to start thinking clearly, become more meticulous, patient, and financially responsibile if THEY want to see a change in their life. You cant just point fingers at one man. President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.'
UAXDXer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 765 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1119 times:
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.
Better take it easy on that kool-aide. It's gonna bite you on the ass!
It takes a bug to hit a windsheild but it takes guts to stick
Pellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1845 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
I support Obama, but I am still feeling like I am, "wait and see". My ultimate fear is that some of his policies are so "liberal" that growing conservative dissent will result in him not being elected for a second term. And I feel that a health care bill is so significant that it should not be rushed, even though it is a very pertinent issue.
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too
Exactly, things aren't going to change overnight, it will take time and probably some of the measures might start to give out it's fruits when he is out of office ( say 2016 )
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity
But... me buying a few GeminiJets 1:400 model planes is helping the economy a bit right??? it's a necessity!
Thebatman From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 829 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1062 times:
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating.
How about applying for a mortgage you can't afford, and then having the American people pay it for you? That's being MORE irresponsible IMO. YOUR mortgage is not MY problem.
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what.
We're all in this together? That would work if this president was actually FOR individual responsibility. Having everyone carry their own weight. Instead, he wants to penalize and tax working people so people that don't work, and don't want to can get everything for free.
Agreed!
So far 1 Republican Senator switched to the Democratic Party (Arlen Specter) and his first US Supreme Court nominee has just been confirmed. I wish him luck on getting health-care passed, turning the economy around, success in Afghanistan and cleaning up Bush's mess in Iraq.
Max550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1046 times:
Quoting Thebatman (Reply 4): How about applying for a mortgage you can't afford, and then having the American people pay it for you? That's being MORE irresponsible IMO. YOUR mortgage is not MY problem.
What does that have to do with Obama? It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama.
I agree that it's irresponsible, but it's just as irresponsible for a company to give you a mortgage you can't afford. How about instead of blaming people and companies for the problems we had we instead focus on making sure it doesn't happen again?
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1037 times:
Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 1): Better take it easy on that kool-aide. It's gonna bite you on the ass!
Way pass that.
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 2): I support Obama, but I am still feeling like I am, "wait and see". My ultimate fear is that some of his policies are so "liberal" that growing conservative dissent will result in him not being elected for a second term. And I feel that a health care bill is so significant that it should not be rushed, even though it is a very pertinent issue.
He is going to lose relection because of his own deeds. Not the GOP attitude toward him, though that will be the excuse.
Quoting Max550 (Reply 6): It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama
Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office?
Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6354 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1034 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7): Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office? sarcastic
So why did Bush do it then? If its a failed policy.. why did he do it?
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
Quoting Mt99 (Reply 8): So why did Bush do it then? If its a failed policy.. why did he do it?
I never said it was failed, in fact it made sense to bail out the banks because the risk that they would become profitable again quickly was low though any of the money we gave GM was a waste.
No, stop spinning this. Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.
Max550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7): Oh so your telling me if Bush refused Obama would have not done it the second he got in office?
From the way Paulsen and Bernanke were talking, that opportunity wouldn't have existed for Obama. Whether he would have or not is irrelevant. At the time it was passed nobody knew Obama would be the next president. Don't try to blame Obama for this one, Bush pushed for it and McCain and Obama voted for it.
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7): Only reason Bush did it was he knew the DNC would have as soon as he left and laid the whole mess on him.
MSNDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1012 times:
Quoting Propilot83 (Thread starter): Well well well, everyone is now going to report on President Obama's 200 days in office. I guess he is going to get another "report card." I just like to say a few things, Obama is a great outstanding President. It will take a lot of patients to recover from this bad recession. The American people need to understand that its not just Obama's job for the economy to recover. Its everyone, that includes YOU and ME too. Congress, other government agencies, etc. are all in this together no matter what. If there is no bipartisanship, then forget about recovery and health care reform. If the average American parties every weekend and spends his or her money wildly and uncontrollably on stuff that is not a necessity, like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, and other stuff that is not a necessity, then that American should not complain or give Obama a bad rating. Its time for ordinary Americans in this country, that is the middle class to start thinking clearly, become more meticulous, patient, and financially responsibile if THEY want to see a change in their life. You cant just point fingers at one man. President Obama has done an A++ job since he has entered office, Believe it or not! I love the man! "YES WE CAN"!!! I cant hear you, I said 'YES WE WILL.'
Someone has had far too much Kool-aid.
Liberaly dominated CNN viewers gave him a C and he had a B 100 days ago.
Max550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 990 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9): I never said it was failed, in fact it made sense to bail out the banks because the risk that they would become profitable again quickly was low though any of the money we gave GM was a waste.
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9): No, stop spinning this. Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.
So it made sense to bail out the banks, but only because Obama would do it anyway and the DNC would have vilified him for not doing it when their stimulus failed, which hadn't been proposed yet.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6354 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 985 times:
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 9): . Bush did it because #1 he knew Obama would do it anyway and #2 if he didn't the DNC would have villified him even more and used him as an excuse when their stimilus fails.
So he did it only to save face then? LOL - how very Presidential of him!
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6354 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 983 times:
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13): He started with tremendous changes. Somehow I feel he tried to change too much too fast. Maybe he should reduce the pace a bit.
And that would be my criticism of Obama. Most of them very important, but there is no need to take on 100 issues at once.
Max550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 976 times:
Quoting MSNDC9 (Reply 11): Quoting Max550 (Reply 6):
What does that have to do with Obama? It was under Bush that the financial companies were bailed out, not Obama.
Really? Barney Frank had nothing to do with this?
Is Barney Frank Barack Obama? You're trying to disprove my statement, but it's a fact that under Bush the financial companies were bailed out, not Barack Obama or Barney Frank.
I must be forgetting the part where Barney Frank forced the President, Treasury and Federal Reserve to push Congress for the bailout package.
Fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7027 posts, RR: 93 Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 972 times:
Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.
Carlisle From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 271 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 947 times:
Quoting Fxramper (Reply 17): Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.
Hmm ... the Clinton News Network still seems to have a little bias ... Maybe they still want Hillary in office and Bill as the SOS (noting his recent successful trip to N. Korea and meeting with their leader.)
FuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2018 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 935 times:
Quoting Fxramper (Reply 17): Love the CNN poll that said after the first 3 months Obama is a bigger (37%) failure compared to Dubya's (32%) in office.
Well, you need to realize that the first six months of Bush's leadership were filled with nothing. Bush's downfall didn't really start until after the Iraq war started. I don't see this as significant at all. The man inherited an impossible situation that will not be solved in six months. These polls were always biased, even when Bush was president, and if I were you, I wouldn't follow them. Asking 1,000 americans to speak on behalf of about 195 million adult american citizens, is worthless, IMHO.
"The brave don't live forever, but the cautious don't live at all."
Propilot83 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 545 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 930 times:
Okay so Obama got a C on his next report card, who cares, he doesnt care, because he knows that he is doing his best and that he's trying everything he can. Listen it was the lack of patients that caused the worlds deadliest aviation disaster in March of 1977 at Tenerife airport in the Canary Islands when one man, one man, thats right, one man Captain Van Zantan did not have patients and was in a hurry to his final destination, that was death on his KLM Boeing 747. So patients will always be a virtue, so if people dont be patient, then it will only be worse for them.
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6354 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 927 times:
Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 20): Asking 1,000 americans to speak on behalf of about 195 million adult american citizens, is worthless, IMHO.
The methods that are used to account for the polling are perfectly fine. Research 101.
FuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2018 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 912 times:
Quoting Mt99 (Reply 22): The methods that are used to account for the polling are perfectly fine. Research 101.
Ohhh please, a communications research professor at my university says in no way are they accurate to national opinions, and i'm sure hundreds of other researchers would agree with him.
"The brave don't live forever, but the cautious don't live at all."
Ual777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1478 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 888 times:
Agreed!
So far 1 Republican Senator switched to the Democratic Party (Arlen Specter) and his first US Supreme Court nominee has just been confirmed. I wish him luck on getting health-care passed, turning the economy around, success in Afghanistan and cleaning up Bush's mess in Iraq.
He will do nothing of the sort in Iraq. Iraq's defining moment was in 2007 with the awaking groups and the troop surge. THAT is what has been successful over there; not anything Obama will do during his term.
It is always darkest before the sun comes up.
25 Us330: What was even better was that Congress was given a "D." I'm taking a wait and see attitude right now with him. I was skeptical of him right up to the
26 L-188: Obama ranks a low "D" in my opinion. He is currently waging a war on the health care system Sent signals of weakness to the islamist facists we are cu
27 Thebatman: Somebody else that sees President False Hope for who he really is. Hopefully the rest of America will follow.
28 CO777ER: It's only a matter of time til the Kool-Aid runs dry. Maybe April 15, 2010 will be a wake-up call.
29 GuitrThree: So do tell us how your life is better since Mr. Hope and Change arrived. A++, huh. Economy still in the tank. Yes Unemployment still in the tank. Yes
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