Tsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5 Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
Couldn't see that this had been started but apologies if it has.
Last time I looked Hamilton had been installed as favourite. Be interesting to see if McLaren and Ferrari can sustain their resurgence or Brawn and Red Bull stay at the front or someone else rockets to the front after the break ...
Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8320 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
I think RBR will be the one's who are hard to beat. Brawn seems to have slipped back, and unless they've dramatically improved I don't really see them posing a threat. The big question is, will Renault be there? They have their court of appeal hearing today, so we will have to wait and see.
Sudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4127 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week ago) and read 3990 times:
Great to see that Renault will be able to race. I like watching Alonso drive, and he might be in a good spot for his home GP as this track is not really about speed either. Will be interesting as both Mclaren and Ferrari showed good pace in last race.
So it can be a race with 5 teams fighting it out.
What made me laugh is that Badoer will be able to drive the F60 before Friday while shooting a commercial for Ferrari. It will be with extreme hard compounds, but still. Not only will he be able to race again, but also try out the car before Friday.
BlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3987 times:
Quoting Sudden (Reply 4): What made me laugh is that Badoer will be able to drive the F60 before Friday while shooting a commercial for Ferrari. It will be with extreme hard compounds, but still. Not only will he be able to race again, but also try out the car before Friday.
I read this..and frankly am not a fan of this. Looks like either Ferrari found a Loophole in the rules, or they're using this as a cover up for a test.
Does an extreme hard compound tyre being used result in it not being a test if the entire chassis is 2009 specs?
and who knows...maybe the super hard compound suits Ferrari's test track Fiorano.
If I was in the FIA...to be fair to everyone...I wouldn't even allow this to be honest. If they wanted to do this on the day of qualifying or just after friday practice...at slow speeds I might be ok with it.
Sudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4127 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3968 times:
Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 5): If I was in the FIA...to be fair to everyone...I wouldn't even allow this to be honest. If they wanted to do this on the day of qualifying or just after friday practice...at slow speeds I might be ok with it.
I think we need to view it as Ferrari found a loophole that FIA can't do anything about, which in turn is fair. A bit like the DD diffuser.
On the other hand, to shoot a commercial is a business that can very easily end up in the million $ mark, so I don't think that Ferrari are doing this just to be able to let Badoer drive the F60. Just my opinion though.
Boeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1103 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3940 times:
Quoting Sudden (Reply 8): I think we need to view it as Ferrari found a loophole that FIA can't do anything about, which in turn is fair. A bit like the DD diffuser.
Exactly.
And if some of the other teams try to take Ferrari to the WMSC accusing them of breaking hte rules for testing, I wish them the best of luck in trying to successfully prove that it was for testing and not for advertisement filming.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5426 posts, RR: 49 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3934 times:
Here is something to note and remember ... me defending Ferrari, or at least their actions.
I beleive there is an agreement between the teams to allow promotional use of the cars, hence Bridgestone make a "promotional" super hard slick and the cars are limited to 100kph.
The only real benefit Badoer could get would be getting used to the controls and steering wheel but he would have spent enough time in the simulator to not really need that.
Chhers
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GrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
The GP venue has some modifications this year:
- The pits exit has been improved;
- The wall between the track and the pits has been modified;
- Walls have been pushed away on turns 3, 5, 9, 10 and 14;
- Artificial grass has been installed on around turns 10 and 14;
- New rumble strips installed on turn 4 and 5.
"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one" - Moliere
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4929 posts, RR: 28 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3824 times:
As a Ferrari fan and as an italian, I will be definitely rooting for Badoer for this GP. Not as exciting as Schumi, but seeing an Italian driving the red car is still something to look forward to!
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10241 posts, RR: 40 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 3811 times:
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It was also revealed that Renault’s case was helped by the fact that Red Bull Racing, McLaren, Ferrari and Toyota all wrote letters supporting Renault’s case - with two teams admitting that their own pit-stop procedures have had to be changed to avoid a repeat of an Alonso-type situation.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5426 posts, RR: 49 Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3793 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 17): I would love so much to see my two favourite drivers Hammy and Taku racing each other
With all due respect Madame, I am not sure what kind of car/driver combination would have Lewis & Taku actually racing each other.
Back to the news, the FIA have released the 2010 Sporting & Technical regulations.
Notable is that the points system remains unchanged and is not Bernie's "medal" proposal.
Qualifying has been amended to cater for a 26 car entry list and it appears that Q3 will be run in a light fuel state so no more guess work about who is light or heavy.
The rules seem unclear as to whether KERS is optional or not.
The way I read it those stupid wheel cover/brake ducts should not be allowed but that is the way I read the 2008/9 rules as well.
Having said all that I would not bother to commit these rules to paper as there is plenty of time for amendments between now and March 2010
Cheers
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MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10241 posts, RR: 40 Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3783 times:
Quoting StealthZ (Reply 23): it appears that Q3 will be run in a light fuel state so no more guess work about who is light or heavy.
Changes to qualifying next year: "Q3 will now be run in low-fuel configuration with the regulations taking into account the re-fuelling ban for 2010", autosport claims it was designed to please the fans.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
25 LTU932: I prefer if you re-instate limitations such as the 107% rule. That should serve as a better incentive for them to make it into the grid. And those wh
26 StealthZ: That is something that might have to be considered for 2011 if the new teams do not measure up but for now it would be non issue, in the 7 races to T
27 GrahamHill: And transform this venue into some kind of Rally-cross track? Why not , at least it would add some fun to a very boring GP!
28 Boeing74741R: Good! If it ain't broke, don't fix it 1-0 Bernie Ecclestone Makes sense to me. Running the top 10 cars in Q3 on light fuel means they'll be faster, a
29 Tsv: So with the re-fuelling ban wouldn't it make more sense to have them fully fuelled at the start of each qualifying session so the grid order would be
30 Sudden: Interesting, but next year it will be just what you wrote, but the other way around. Aim for the sky! Sudden
31 MadameConcorde: Badoer: "Until Felipe comes back, the car is mine!" Drivers: Jaime Alguersuari (Toro Rosso), Fernando Alonso (Renault), Luca Badoer (Ferrari), Jenson
32 Sudden: Practise 1 result: 1 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:42.460 2 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.636 0.176 3 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Me
33 GrahamHill: The return of the Brawns... As far as I can remember, the last time they were on top during Friday practice was in Monaco. Let's see if the can confi
34 T1210s: I see the toyota's are having another nightmare on a street circuit
35 Sudden: I think Toyota has a bit of split personality. I mean, they are very fast in 1-2 races, and the next it's back to the Trulli-train. Not consistent at
36 Bill142: I see that McLaren are using a shorter wheel base car in Valencia this weekend. The reason Lewis didn't go back out in P2 is because they had run out
37 Sudden: They have been in F1 now for how many years? I think it's strange that a team as Toyota with such a budget is not able to accomplish more. They could
39 StealthZ: Despite all the rhetoric about Badoer, this and being severely off the pace are hardly the hallmarks of one ready for the main event!! Cheers[Edited
40 Boeing74741R: So much for the earlier pleas that it should've been Badoer's seat anyway, not Schumacher's (before the Quack stepped in). I doubt Gene would've been
41 MadameConcorde: Bummer! I cannot find any live practice 3 streaming on the internet! I hope I will be able to see the Qualifs this afternoon. The only thing I have is
42 Astuteman: Have to say that in the grand scheme of things, those results look much more like the return of the McLarens to me..... Rgds
43 Madameconcorde: http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/formula-one-live Go Hammy!!!!! Drivers scores for now.... 1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren 2 Brazil R Barrichell
44 MadameConcorde: Q1 results Live Leaderboard Position Country Driver Team 1 Great Britain J Button Brawn 2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren 3 Poland R Kubica BMW Saube
46 MadameConcorde: Live Leaderboard Position Country Driver Team 1 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren 2 Finland H Kovalainen McLaren 3 Brazil R Barrichello Brawn 4 Germany
47 BlueElephant: I am so happy this morning...Especially FOR Madame Concorde! And for Heikki and Lewis...absolutely brilliant stuff from the McLaren drivers! Here's ho
51 Tiger119: OK, I have been under the radar the past couple years and have not paid attention that much to Formula One (my own little personal "fit" over Bernie p
52 Flyboysp: If you are referring to the white line in the last sector. I believe it is sand that has been put over some oil, because Vettel's engine blew leaving
53 BlueElephant: Valencia is a very tight track and can be a hard drive. The European Grand Prix was moved to the Valencia Street Circuit last year....Hockenheim and
55 Boeing74741R: When Badoer was racing all those years ago he wasn't competitive then, so there's no way he's going to be competitive now. MadameC raised a good sugg
56 T1210s: Fuel adjusted grid 1 Rubens Barrichello lap 19 2 Heikki Kovalainen +0.216secs (lap 16) 3 Lewis Hamilton +0.249 (lap 15) 4 Jenson Button +0.291 (lap 18
57 Racko: Well, at least we now know that trying to bring in Schumacher was desperation, not a publicity stunt.
58 Sudden: The weights; 1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 653kg 2. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 655 3. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 662.5 4. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull
59 StealthZ: I saw that and was wondering if Toyota are just working on getting ultra heavy car data for next year when there is no refuelling. Your point about M
60 MadameConcorde: Nice thoughts, BlueElephant! We need to send good vibes to our two drivers! I hope nothing bad will happen to the McLarens, no incidents of any kind
61 Racko: After 4 laps Badoer is 29sec behind Hamilton and even the gap to the guy directly in fornt of him is already 13sec. Incredible.
62 MadameConcorde: I hope Hammy will be able to catch up on Rubens and pass him.... He is having a difficult time it seems... Race almost over...
63 MadameConcorde: Unless a miracle Barrichello has got a win... Me very sad...
64 BlueElephant: Ruebens has won this one I'm sure of it. costly Pit lane error in the McLaren garage otherwise Hamilton would have had this race. I wonder what happen
65 MadameConcorde: Definitely. I had the feeling something was going wrong during that pit stop but could not figure out why or what the mechs were doing... Even though
66 GrahamHill: Congratulations to Rubens!! I'm very happy for him, he deserves it. But it was another boring Valencia GP. This one was not better than last year.
67 Astuteman: You shouldn't be, MadameConcorde. It's great to see Lewis getting himself back on the podium again, but Rubens is a great driver and a great guy - a
68 MadameConcorde: Rubens is a highly experienced driver with a very good car. From the BBC Sports site: Lewis Hamilton on BBC One: "We win together and we lose together
69 GrahamHill: Badoer's performance was poor, to say the least. He spinned several time and did a beginner's mistake by crossing the white line at pits exit which co
70 Cpd: Very happy to see Rubens win - thoroughly deserved victory and a flawless drive.
71 Sudden: Well done to Rubens, and another P5 for Rosberg. It seems that he has taken over that position from Webber. About Toyota, Talks are going on in the pi
72 Baroque: Too busy with the cricket to work out how Hammie managed to lose the unlosable. Then again, first I could never understand how Mcl were so hopeless fo
73 GrahamHill: Yes they should!! And they should go back to Le Mans and build a successor of this beautiful baby: Â Â I guess they have good engineers
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