CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4759 posts, RR: 27 Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 405 times:
They are an extremely important part of my vote. Earlier on I was wooed by the impression that old Stocky had modernized his beliefs, but it doesn't appear to be so given his opinions presented in the press and during the debate. I'm pretty sure I won't be voting for the Alliance now because of their non gay-positive views...I'm not going to call them blantantly homophobic. But for heavens sake even Joe Clark is becoming a gay rights champion compared to the Reform Alliance. I don't believe that a party can win with such policy anymore. If they don't change in a hurry they are going to be dissapointed.
We in Ontario don't like the Liberals, but most (not including myself of course) will vote for them because there is no other party capable of winning an election that will represent their values. The Alliance has made a big mistake, in my humble queer opinion.
ZooPz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 398 times:
Your humble, queer opinion?
Very well considered and said, though through such an example as the Alliance's views on gays/lesbians, does it imply that one's government must bend at the will of the people?? I know that we live in a democratic country, and I am thankful for such an opportunity to exercise my freedom, but I personally think there is a fine line between democracy and chaos within one country's society. Just a thought to consider
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4759 posts, RR: 27 Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 403 times:
They don't have to do anything to please me other than to announce their position of gay rights. The only thing that Stockwell Day has said is that he "supports the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman only". That is avoiding the question, and his strong evangelical religious beliefs only muddy the waters further.
In no way am I an Alliance-basher...I would just appreciate clearer answers...espescially on this issue. Every other party has announced that they will at least respect current gay rights (Liberals and PC) while the NDP, Greens, Canadian Action Party etc all propose equal rights.
I think there is room for gays in the Alliance if they are a bit more open. Even the Republican party in the US has a gay supporters group.
ZooPz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 399 times:
This is very true, and extremely valid. But as we all know, politicians always side-step attacks on their previous achievements, whether they be worthy of praise of worthy of flaming. It is true that religion and politics should not and cannot co-exist within the same realm of government. I am not putting down Day's beliefs on the subject, but his personal belief is surely hurting his campaigning.
As for him being a type of Hitler, I have yet to believe, as such a comparison, in my view, is quite out of line and absolutely sickening.
Nicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 401 times:
Nice to see another Canadian joining in
Well you see I agree with a lot of Stockwell day views, except 2: His views on gays and his views on abortion.
What CPDC10-30 said earlier is very true, if the alliance doesn't change their view on the Gay rights they will never make it out, as the others have at least accepted to leave the right like they are right now, not to put them down more (like Mr Day wants) Anyways i will not vote for them until they don't change their views on these issues.
But now who to vote for? Liberal? No, not Jean Chretien! Bloc? Hahaha ya must be kidding! NPD & PC, I know too little about them... who?!?!
ZooPz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 392 times:
i seriously do not know who to vote for either. Day was my prime candidate (pun not intended) until he mixed religious beliefs with government views. to elect the bloc would be a joke, and I've had quuite enough of Chretien. The NDP are notorious for their spenindg fiascos, so really, I see no winner.
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4759 posts, RR: 27 Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 393 times:
I'm looking more and more to the PC party. That would have been laughable two weeks ago (or still may be in some people's opinion), but I can trust they won't screw everything up. Also, the candidate in my riding (Randall Pearce) is openly gay. None of their policies are particularly exciting, but would be a nice change from what we have now.
I still haven't completely made up my mind on who my vote will go to, but I am pretty certain it won't be the Liberals or the Alliance.