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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Hey guys, just wanted some of your thoughts on what type of phone I should get.

I started off a couple of months back with a Sony Ericsson C510, and I quite like it but I'm thinking of upgrading to an IPhone 3GS.

Is it worth upgrading?
If you have a 3GS, what are some of the positives/negatives?
Is it much of an jump-up from the 3G model?

Any other phones on the market that are worth while considering?

Your feedback/comments very welcome.

Regards,
Pete


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User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
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I would definitely consider the iPhone 3GS. More precisely, it depends on the kind of usage you will be doing.

The main difference between the iPhone and all other phones (except Android phones that are popping up lately) is that the iPhone allows you to browse the Internet and read/write emails without restrictions while on the road. If you need/want the Internet "everywhere", the iPhone is (almost) the only way to go at the moment, short of buying a laptop. And the user interface is just unbeatable.

The touch screen interface does take some time to get used to, but it's worth the effort.

The main differences between the 3G and the 3GS can be found here:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/

If you're buying today, I'd go for the 3GS as the price difference is very small and the performance really is much better.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8971 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2648 times:
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Quoting A1ring23 (Thread starter):

It sounds more like you just want to know if it is worth getting the iphone 3GS or are you open for other suggestions too?
I mean the iphone is for sure not bad. I don't like typing on that "keyboard" there. I make so many mistakes (I use an ipod touch which has the same keyboard). I prefer some real keyboard. That's why I am using the Nokia E75. You can slide open the keyboard and then you have a full keyboard.

Just an idea.

wilco737



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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2636 times:



Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1):

Yeah the IPhone is certainly what I'm looking for and I'm just wondering if there are any other phones similar that come remotely close.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 2):

I'm leaning towards IPhone but of course I'm open to other suggestions. But yes, the idea of a 'virtual keyboard' sounds a bit daunting and I've tried it on a few of my mate's Iphone's and it was bloody hard to type. The only gripe I have with phones with proper fold out keypads is that I normally find the buttons to be ridiculously small and difficult to use anyway, not that I have stubby fingers or anything, but still.

Hmmm wondering when the 4th gen Iphone is coming out, maybe that's worth waiting for?

Pete



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8971 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
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Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 3):
Yeah the IPhone is certainly what I'm looking for and I'm just wondering if there are any other phones similar that come remotely close.

The iphone is pretty good, easy to use, simple to use. I just don't lke the keyboard...

Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 3):
Iphone's and it was bloody hard to type.

I avoid using the keyboard on the ipod touch. I make a gazillion mistakes...

Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 3):
The only gripe I have with phones with proper fold out keypads is that I normally find the buttons to be ridiculously small and difficult to use anyway, not that I have stubby fingers or anything, but still.

The buttons aren't too small on the E75. They are big enough, problem is, there are flat. So no real difference can be felt between the keys. But if you are used to qwertz (or qwerty) then that shouldn't be of a big problem.
I'd give it a try, just to compare it to the iphone.
Another negative for iphone: the battery. You cannot change it on your own or have a 2nd one if the 1st one is empty. The E75 you just open the back and change the battery and you can continue to use it.

wilco737



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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

My only beef with the iPhone 3GS has been with the keyboard. Coming from a BlackBerry it was a big adjustment. The setup was simple and it works.

User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
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I was concerned about the keyboard before I got my iPhone, but after a month or so of using it I just got faster and faster when using it.
It does auto correct certain mistakes as well so you don't have to type 100% accurately.
The one piece of advice I say to anyone borrowing my phone is to not use the tip of your finger, but the edge of your thumb.
Still, in regards to it as a phone, its great. I wouldn't consider another phone now.

Kev.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21418 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2582 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Thread starter):
I started off a couple of months back with a Sony Ericsson C510, and I quite like it but I'm thinking of upgrading to an IPhone 3GS.

Is it worth upgrading?
If you have a 3GS, what are some of the positives/negatives?
Is it much of an jump-up from the 3G model?

Yes, it is. The difference in price is smaller than the difference in value you get in return.

That said, which phone is best for you depends on what you need it for.

If you have no use for a smartphone at all, it's obviously not a good choice. A cheap "simple phone" would be better then.

If you have very specific needs which only a different phone would satisfy, the iPhone would probably not be a good choice either.

Apart from these cases, the iPhone should be a pretty good choice. It's quite pleasant to use, has the best internet access on the market right now and has strong support by the manufacturer and by third-party developers (App Store).

Apple also provides substantial firmware upgrades every year for free. All iPhones have recently become eligible for a free upgrade to the 3.0 firmware.

Quoting A1ring23 (Thread starter):
Any other phones on the market that are worth while considering?

Depends on what your priorities are. There a few which have some isolated features over the iPhone (better camera, bigger screen, removable battery, ...), but almost all of them suffer from shoddy software (which usually isn't updated in any meaningful way after sale), inconsistent hardware quality, atrocious usability and lackluster manufacturer support.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4):
I avoid using the keyboard on the ipod touch. I make a gazillion mistakes...

I've never made many mistakes, even when typing single-handed with my thumb.

It's not a big secret, but you need to overcome the expectation that the iPhone (or iPod Touch) would recognize the point you see the tip of your finger pointing to – that is not how it works! (On the cheaper resistive touchscreens you sometimes need to use your fingernail to activate a small button, so that leads many "switchers" astray in the beginning.)

Instead, the iPhone recognizes the middle of the contact area of your finger with the surface; Even while that area can be larger than one of the buttons, the middle of the contact area can be located rather precisely.

So maybe you need to learn to really aim at the button with the contact area of your finger, not with your fingernail.

Tips:

- The virtual keyboard operates entirely on touch – it requires no actual pressure whatsoever! This requires a different way of typing from actually pushing down tiny plastic buttons, and the transition may take some getting used to.

- When you're touching a button, a popup indicates which button you've actually hit. If it should be the wrong one, you can still slide your finger to the right button and release it there in correction. This can be a really good way to get a feeling for how it works.

- If you've got trouble with the keyboard: Practice! It can actually work really well if you know how to use it. If you don't, you probably make incorrect assumptions about the way it works.


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2560 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Thread starter):
Any other phones on the market that are worth while considering?

Look at the Nokia E71X. For my needs a much better phone than the iPhone. You may also get better deals from phone carriers on the Nokia than an iPhone. Also don't take what people from other countries say about pricing, it often does not apply in Oz, check for yourself!

Gemuser



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User currently offlinePhoenix9 From Canada, joined Aug 2007, 2546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Have you looked at Sony Ericsson Xperia X1? That is an awesome phone with slide out keyboard. That is the next phone I want to buy. I've used SE P990 for last 3 years without any issues.


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User currently offlineThebatman From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 846 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2530 times:
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I just got myself the Palm Pre. This thing is fantastic. It's full touch-screen like the iPhone, has basically the same web browser, but has a real keyboard. You can also have multiple applications running at the same time, something the iPhone can't do. I think it's the closest competitor for the iPhone yet, and so far I'm really happy with it. Just my  twocents  ...


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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Hmm thanks for all the advice guys, I think I'll go with the 3GS.

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 8):
Also don't take what people from other countries say about pricing, it often does not apply in Oz, check for yourself!

Yeah that's true. I'm thinking of sticking on Virgin cos all my family are on it, and free V to V rocks! Plus they've got a decent plan which just came out.

It seems like quite an upgradeable phone (in terms of the OS), which is probably the biggest reason I tend to replace phones.

Any decent apps on it worth having? Anything A.net related?  Wink



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User currently offlineSkytrain From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 297 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2469 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 11):
Any decent apps on it worth having? Anything A.net related?

If you are into time-killing games, definitely check out Flight Control.

Enjoy your iPhone.

Skytrain



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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Ordered my 3Gs on tuesday, taking ages to get here!
Mass shortage of iPhones in Oz atm! I wonder if this is a clever marketing ploy by Apple to drive demand ever higher?

Is this happening anywhere else?



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21418 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2308 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 13):
Ordered my 3Gs on tuesday, taking ages to get here!
Mass shortage of iPhones in Oz atm! I wonder if this is a clever marketing ploy by Apple to drive demand ever higher?

I doubt it. Apple drives an extremely lean manufacturing / distribution system. It is probably a combination of not wanting to boost manufacturing volume for the initial peak and then having to cut back with some underestimation of demand this time around. But it seems iPhone demand is pretty impervious to the economic troubles.

Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 13):
Is this happening anywhere else?

You bet. Same here in Germany, with a backlog of several weeks.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

The iPhone 3GS is cool phone with the exceptions of MMS messaging and the keyboard but I will always be a Blackberry guy. Have for many years now.


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21418 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2266 times:



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 15):
The iPhone 3GS is cool phone with the exceptions of MMS messaging and the keyboard

If you really want to spend outrageous money on data transmission that's otherwise free of extra charge, you can now do so on the iPhone, too, since the upgrade to the Version 3 system.

As to the keyboard, it's primarily a matter of getting used to. Once you are, you can type quickly and reliably. And the buttons never get stuck or bounce.


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3174 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2256 times:

You will love the iphone.

My 2 suggestions/questions for you.

Telstra has better coverage but Optus is cheaper.
Make sure you are on some sort of plan that includes download of data. I think I use about 95-120 mb a month.

I love my iphone and can't live without it.

The battery life on it sucks though so you need to charge it every night. the iphone 3GS might be better but I don't know.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21418 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2251 times:



Quoting BNE (Reply 17):
The battery life on it sucks though so you need to charge it every night. the iphone 3GS might be better but I don't know.

Depending on usage and reception, switching off UMTS (3G) can provide substantially longer battery life.

At this point the available UMTS chipsets still draw a relatively high amount of power, much more than in standard GSM mode.


User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2239 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
You bet. Same here in Germany, with a backlog of several weeks.

Seems like everyone wants one!

Quoting BNE (Reply 17):
Telstra has better coverage but Optus is cheaper.
Make sure you are on some sort of plan that includes download of data. I think I use about 95-120 mb a month.

I'm going with Virgin on the Internet Cap 34 with $150 worth of calls and 300mb of data per month. Phone is $20/month...not a bad deal! Virgin's coverage is okay, haven't had any issues so far, been on it for over a year now.

Quoting BNE (Reply 17):
The battery life on it sucks though so you need to charge it every night. the iphone 3GS might be better but I don't know.

How long does yours last? Hoping the 3Gs is a bit better, at least..



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21418 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2232 times:



Quoting A1ring23 (Reply 19):
Hoping the 3Gs is a bit better, at least..

Actually, battery endurance has increased significantly – just for everything else. 3G apparently sucks the battery empty in pretty much the same amount of time.

Apple - iPhone - Technical Specifications


User currently onlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3040 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

I have not really had an issue with battery.

First of all, I've had my iPhone 3G for a year now, and the battery still seems to last as long as it did before. (Without much internet usage, I get around 3 days worth - with a lot of internet usage, I get 1-2 days.)

Also, my family members have a wide range of mobile phones, from Nokia, Blackberries, Samsungs (smart and normal), and their batteries don't last any longer than my iPhone, and over the months, their battery life has shrunken significantly.

I would highly recommend the iPhone. At first I was skeptical, now I don't think I will leave the iPhones, unless something similar comes up, for instance, an improved google android.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineA1ring23 From Australia, joined Jun 2009, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

So addicted to my iPhone atm, had it for 4 days, been totally awesome!!

Anyone tried the AirTycoon app? Is it good?



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