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Pastor: "I Will Pray Obama Dies"  
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4133 times:

I was walking through our student center between classes, and saw on the news that one pastor is praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell". I didn't even look to see which news station and I don't have a link, as I just caught it going between classes.

Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

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User currently onlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5778 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4116 times:

Because they are do not properly understand the teachings of Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. They take a limited and earthly view and let it infect their stewardship of the people that look to them for guidance and leadership.

And we are all poorer for it.

Tugg



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User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4110 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell"

And people wonder why I'm an athiest.  stirthepot   Yeah sure



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User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4105 times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq9G44tomKY

Pastor steve anderson nutter



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User currently offlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2607 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4080 times:

Pat Robertson was praying on his show for liberal Supreme Court justices to die when Bush was in office so GWB could appoint ones that held more "Christian" views. Didn't he also call for Hugo Chavez to be assassinated? Yeah, ol' Reverend Pat...great representative of Christianity, isn't he?  Yeah sure

User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4056 times:



Quoting T1210s (Reply 3):
Pastor steve anderson

This guy is a infamous extremist in the States. He is also well known by law enforcement. Basically, he warps Christianity to his own delusional agenda. Freedom of speech ends where hate speech begins, and he should be locked up for good.



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3090 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3988 times:

That is why it is concerning that these phony baloney minsters/pastors be allowed to gain vocal political power.One asinine political statement,they're tax previliges status should be revoked.

Here in Fontana,I can't believe how many ministries suddenly are popping up.Must be the money.Rip off of both pocketbock and God.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3957 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

Because they are wicked and deluded. Clowns like this are certainly not Christians.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3928 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
one pastor is praying for Obama's death and that he also hopes Obama "burns in hell"

What an utter idiot.

That goes for the programming director who decided to air this story, as well. Why give people like that recognition?

-Mir



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User currently offlineKen777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 8471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a black dude in the White House.

Of the three, the latter probably upsets them the most.

Let the preacher flap his lips all he wants, we elected Obama.


User currently onlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3867 times:



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Let the preacher flap his lips all he wants, we elected Obama.

True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Some people can't stand to have a Democrat in the White House.

We can make an argument for the opposite, don't forget you have radical lefties who bombed federal buildings and police stations. Oh yea I forgot they made sure nobody was in them.  sarcastic 


User currently onlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8952 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3864 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Why do these people call themselves Christians and why do they think they are furthering the Christian cause when they do such things?

He's a nutjob that should be ignored and shunned. His teachings have little or nothing to do with Christianity.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 5):
Freedom of speech ends where hate speech begins, and he should be locked up for good.

I disagree. Shun him, shame him, cause him to lose his pulpit, but the First Amendment is sacrosanct. I see Rev. Wright to be just as bad, but he has every right to say what he did, just like we have every right to ridicule and criticize what he said (and anyone who listened to him and didn't speak up).



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3090 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3856 times:



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Some people can't stand to have a non-conservative in the White House.

Don't forget Rev.Wright and other leftist pastors! The problem is on both sides of the political aisle. And they're just as anti-gay,as well.

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
That goes for the programming director who decided to air this story, as well. Why give people like that recognition?

You're right.

This story has so many holes in it you could fall through it.Why do you need a," terrorist" national security to analysis,to start?MSNBC credibility continues to be zero.

But let's be frank here.How many folks wanted Bush dead?



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3822 times:



Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
we elected Obama

Speak for yourself. Though I didn't vote for Obama I wish him no harm and not just because of the wacko that would replace him. Sadly there are crazy people in all religions and both sides.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27307 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3811 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 2):
And people wonder why I'm an athiest.

As the years go by I might join you  Big grin Although I have to say these puppet religions that you find in the USA are not the true understandings and teachings of the majority ( Thank God ).

We have some weirdos from an American sect ( for want of a better word ) that are here in Ireland. They are young quite good looking Men who kind of look the same with these black rectangular badges on with some weird church on them. They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that....Time to invest in an electric fence me thinks....  Wink


User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3804 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
We have some weirdos from an American sect ( for want of a better word ) that are here in Ireland. They are young quite good looking Men who kind of look the same with these black rectangular badges on with some weird church on them. They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that....Time to invest in an electric fence me thinks....

Tell the Mormons we say hi! The Mormon faith was founded about 35 minutes away from where I live actually.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

2012 is a long way off. Remember, Clinton and Regan hit their rough patches too and still served two terms.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27307 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3802 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 15):
Tell the Mormons we say hi! The Mormon faith was founded about 35 minutes away from where I live actually.

Are those Mormons?? I didnt know what they were !! I didnt want to talk about God but I wouldnt mind talking to them about other things  Wink  Big grin


User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3798 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Are those Mormons?? I didnt know what they were !! I didnt want to talk about God but I wouldnt mind talking to them about other things

Now, now OA260 those young men are always very nice and it would be a shame if you shocked them to the point that they pass out...... wait..... I'm just giving you ideas aren't I?? Big grin



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27307 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3775 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 17):
wait..... I'm just giving you ideas aren't I??

No your not , I was brought up properly , every Sunday I was on my knees  Big grin  Wink

Another thing I hate is those big bill boards ''Time to meet your maker'' and ''Satan is taking over''. You get them alot in Northern Ireland funny enough.


User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

That's nothing. This man in a Church in Arizona, is the Pastor for the guy who brought the AR-15 to Obama's visit to Arizona. He claims that he not only hates Obama, but that God hates Obama and that God wants people to hate Obama. Watch the full extent of the video report to see how deranged this pastor is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fBRglimkgo&feature=channel_page



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User currently onlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3727 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 15):
2012 is a long way off. Remember, Clinton and Regan hit their rough patches too and still served two terms.

Yea but the rough patch Obama is putting us in is far worse than the rough patches from the 80s and 90s. He is a runaway train and I don't see anything improving unless he breaks away from Pelosi and governs from the center.


User currently onlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5778 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3706 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):
We can make an argument for the opposite, don't forget you have radical lefties who bombed federal buildings and police stations.

Dude! Don't go there! You do remember that the number two.... three.... four(?).... terrorist event was done by what no one can really argue was that "right wing" whack-job Timothy McVeigh. I hate the friggin' "blame game" that goes on here (and in US society in general lately), it's stupid, we agree on most stuff, stop it!

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 11):
I disagree. Shun him, shame him, cause him to lose his pulpit, but the First Amendment is sacrosanct.

Interesting. I apologize for putting you on the spot but which do you put first, the Constitution of these United States or the Bible? I hold the Constitution higher simply because it allows free speech while the Bible does not. With one you can have the other but the other it is possible (likely?) you won't have the other.

Tugg



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User currently onlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8952 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3689 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 21):
Interesting. I apologize for putting you on the spot but which do you put first, the Constitution of these United States or the Bible?

What does the Bible have to do anything here? In any case, the Constitution is the law of the land (or at least it used to be), not the Bible.



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10334 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3661 times:



Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 13):
Speak for yourself.

We, as a country, did indeed elect him, no matter who each individual voted for.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 10):

True but you will be pretty lonley at the polls in 2012'. I don't want him dead but I sure want him out of office and the way things are going it won't be hard.

Same way that many Democrats felt during Bush's 2nd term. No real point in constantly bringing it up.



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3624 times:

This guy brings shame to the Christian community just like Pat Robertson, Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton. Shoot lets through Bennie Hen in there and Joel Olstien.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 4):
Didn't he also call for Hugo Chavez to be assassinated?

That is correct. And because of that stupid comment he made, my organization was kicked out of Venezuela bringing medical aide to tribal people because now Hugo things my organization is the CIA!!!

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 6):
they're tax previliges status should be revoked.

I totaly agree. I am a strong Christian as many know on here but when Pastors start to tell people how to vote, I believe the tax exempt status should be taken away. Once you step into that realm, your playing with fire. There are certain things that are part of religion that can be said from the pulpit like the Biblical stance on abortion and so on and so forth but NO Church has the right to tell its congrigation to vote No on this and Yes on that and vote Republican or Democrat or to tell them to Tea Party it up. Sorry.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Of the three, the latter probably upsets them the most.

Bull...speak for ONLY yourself on that one. No proof for that bafoonery.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 14):
They go round knocking on doors asking if they can talk about the values of this and that

Dont forget that they let you know how you can become a "god" of your own planet  Wink

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):

Take a look at our laws in America. How many of those are found in Scripture? Murder? Stealing? Baring false witness (prejury in court)? and the list goes on...



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25 Dreadnought : No question, our laws drew inspiration from the Bible. But that's not the same as being law.
26 Mir : Seriously? Whether you like it or not, we as a nation elected Obama to the office of President. Just like we as a nation elected Bush to the same off
27 Jcs17 : $5 says this wouldn't be an airliners.net topic if George W. Bush was still in office. In fact, it would be old hat.
28 FlyDeltaJets87 : You might be out $5, because I'm the thread starter, and yet I was one of the 28% or whatever the number was that supported Bush. But I find the beha
29 ShyFlyer : Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the
30 TheCol : Agreed. This media is just propagating hatred on both sides of the coin. That's one significant difference between Americans and Canadians. Up here w
31 Yellowstone : Perhaps a good way to summarize it would be that churches can advocate for or against political issues, but not political candidates.
32 Falstaff : No, but the media likes to make them out to be mainstream. It seems to we working too. I read posts all the time about enlightened atheists and why "
33 Ha763 : Murder, stealing, prejury, etc are universal and not limited to the teaching of the Bible. Just because they are found in the Bible doesn't mean that
34 AlexEU : Because he is not representing true Christianity. Baptists are not real Christians. They were invented by a man, not by a God.
35 AustinAirport : Don't worry. God will not accept this man into heaven. No rational person would follow him, if they were smart they would stand up and walk right out
36 QXatFAT : I am a Southern Baptist by Church denomination and find that offensive! I am 100% Christian. You oh the other hand do not know what a Christian means
37 DocLightning : How about because they are mentally ill, but charasmatic? The bit about the economy recovering?
38 TheCol : He's young, respect is something that comes late to his generation.
39 Baroque : With you there Force13. The loony US "Christians" seem to be trying to outdo OBL himself.
40 AlexEU : I respect Baptists, and I have some great Baptist friends. No one said that you are not Christian. I said that Baptism had devieted from true Christi
41 JBirdAV8r : Amen! Christians as a group have been completely and undeservedly vilified in the media and definitely on this forum for a LONG time. As a Christian,
42 QXatFAT : What is the oposite of "real Christians"? I would assume fake Christians which arn't Christians in your eyes. That was never said in your post. Sorry
43 AirframeAS : And to add, if I may: Some people cannot stand anyone in the White House, period.
44 AlexEU : Btw, are there any explenations on why that man said that? I am not living in USA, so I don´t know much about public support of Obama. I have a feeli
45 Baroque : I see, well it sorts matters out, nothing wrong with the loony ones apparently? Seems you have forgotten that one of their lines about Greater Israel
46 JBirdAV8r : Of course there's something "wrong" with the "loony" Christians, but you know good and well not all Christians are loony (though you make that thinly
47 QXatFAT : I am sorry but thats incorrect (not opinion but fact). Although the Southern Baptist do have an organization called the IMB (International Mission Bo
48 AlexEU : Absolutely not. I simply believe that people in the US South are more conservative, but I may be wrong and please correct me. No, not only by Catholi
49 JBirdAV8r : You're right, they do tend to be more conservative. I guess I was just a little touchy because there were some allegations of racism by less scrupulo
50 AustinAirport : That was beast. All Racists will burn in hell.
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