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Barack Obama - One Term President?  
User currently offlineTheGov From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 410 posts, RR: 3
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

While I know that every U. S. President starts on a high note and, once he has settled in, begins a slight slide in approval polls, do you think that, with an approval rating that his been sliding faster than usual, President Obama is a one term President? I realize that the election is about 38 months away and a lot can happen in that time, but he seems to me to be working his way towards a single administration. Granted, he was handed quite a full plate back in January, but it appears that he is now about to be overwhelmed by the addition of the universal health care issue. Even his most ardent supporters (the media) seem to be questioning his ability to lead. So, what do you think? One hit wonder or coming back for round two?


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User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3161 times:

I say no he is not. I know before long things will start to get better, unless of course if the republicans block and interrupt every legislation that he is trying to pass. I think even after four years, people will still remember the nightmare that Bush was. And besides, who would be elected besides Obama? Sarah Palin?  rotfl  . Man the day that happens, is the day I move to Canada. I hear they have a pretty good gov't, and someone as leader who actually knows that Africa is a continent.


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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8510 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

Like Yogi Berra said :It ain't over till it's over" I do not think anyone has anyway or any idea how this will all play out after such a short span of time.


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

7 months into his first term, also with a struggling economy and a controversial election, GW Bush was at 55/36 in the Gallup polls at the end of August 2001 His peak was 63/22 that March.

Obama is at 50/42, and his peak was 69/13 back in January, in the same poll.

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm#Gallup

According to the Wall Street Journal / NBC Poll, only 14% of Americans consider health care reform to be a top priority - they want Obama to concentrate on job creation and economic growth, the deficit and government spending instead. But Obama is spending all his political capital pursuing something that people do not want by an increasing majority. By that he'll just reinforce his image as arrogant, elitist, and interested more in his own agenda than the good of the country.

Now, it all depends on who ends up being the Republican front-runner, but assuming that Republicans can put up somebody solid, it looks like a 1-term presidency.



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8510 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3134 times:



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 2):
Like Yogi Berra said :It ain't over till it's over"

[quote=Dreadnought,reply=3]Now, it all depends on who ends up being the Republican front-runner, but assuming that Republicans can put up somebody solid, it looks like a 1-term presidency.


I will stick with Yogi.  Smile



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3106 times:



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
say no he is not. I know before long things will start to get better, unless of course if the republicans block and interrupt every legislation that he is trying to pass.

Republicans cannot stop anything, they don't have the numbers in either house. The Democrats are having trouble with their own members i.e. the Blue Dogs who were just elected in mainly GOP districts. Maxine Waters D Calif recently blamed Rahm Emanuel for this for getting all the Blue Dogs in Congress to get the majority, since they are conservative Dems they don't go along with the hard left that is all the leadership positions.
Tip O'neil said it best "All politics is Local". Would you want your rep voting a strict party line vote no matter how bad the legislation with no debate or would you want one looking out for their district and country.



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8875 posts, RR: 40
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Way too soon to be determined. Remember, Bush got re-elected after what many thought was a disastrous first term. . . don't waste your time trying to figure out, politics doesn't make any sense.

[Edited 2009-08-30 20:26:58]


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User currently offlineFuturePilot16 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2035 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3071 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 3):
7 months into his first term, also with a struggling economy and a controversial election, GW Bush was at 55/36 in the Gallup polls at the end of August 2001 His peak was 63/22 that March.

GWB had a struggling economy. Coming off the largest economic expansion in U.S. history and he had a struggling economy? Show me proof an i'll accept it.

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 5):
Republicans cannot stop anything, they don't have the numbers in either house.

Yea, but it doesn't stop them from getting their goons together to go out and fearmonger with all this crap about Obama wants to kill old people and whatnot and Obama wants to take peoples guns. People are very vulnerable to believe anythng they here, especially old people, and with the republicans spreading propoganda like this, we won't get anything done.



"The brave don't live forever, but the cautious don't live at all."
User currently offlineEaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

It's the economy stupid.

Also I fear that Palin might guarantee him a second term.


User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3057 times:



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 7):
Yea, but it doesn't stop them from getting their goons together to go out and fearmonger with all this crap about Obama wants to kill old people and whatnot and Obama wants to take peoples guns. People are very vulnerable to believe anythng they here, especially old people, and with the republicans spreading propoganda like this, we won't get anything done.

The Dems also did this when they were out of power, alls fair in love and war. After Bush won in 2004 he tried to Social Security reform and the Dems started to tell the AARP crowd the Bush and the GOP wants to cut grandmas social security checks and have her starve. Welcome to big boy school.



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3057 times:



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 7):
GWB had a struggling economy. Coming off the largest economic expansion in U.S. history and he had a struggling economy? Show me proof an i'll accept it.

There was a recession that started in late 2000.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

One cannot ignore the possibility, this coming from a loyal Democrat. Still, it would have take some situations occur including:
- The economy continues to falter, along with a high unemployment rate. The lousy economy of the 1973-1981 era saw 2 Presidents, Gerald Ford (R) and especially Jimmy Carter (D) (along with other factors, like the Iran-hostage Crises) who only served 1 term as an example.
- A significant terror event like 9/11 or even a fraction of it.
- Continuing warfare in Iraq, Afghanistan, and continuing high rates of dead or crippled American soldiers.
- Raising taxes on the 'middle class'. That would give a huge opening for the Republicans.
- The Democrats lose control of both the Congress and Senate in the 2010 elections.
- A serious botch job on a major disaster, like Katrina level.
- He pursues policies that are too benefiting for Black and other minorities in the eyes of moderate white independent voters.


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Yes and no.

Yes, in that he has plenty of time to save himself from political destruction by moving to the center a la Bill Clinton... you know, what his platform was originally.

No, in that it will never happen. Barack Obama is a committed leftist. He has far left leadership in Congress that he is beholden to, and he really believes in what the Progressive Caucus or his tens of czars believes in. He's too arrogant to think anything else no matter what the plummeting polls say is wrong.

As dumb as most moderates are, they know a Jimmy Carter when they see it.

At the end of the day the Democrats will lose big in 2010. Additionally, once Israel attacks Iran, you'll see a wishy-washy response from the administration. Unfortunately, you might see Hezbollah suicide bombings in the US afterwards. After that, goodbye Msr. Obama.



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User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1438 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3042 times:



Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 12):
Yes, in that he has plenty of time to save himself from political destruction by moving to the center a la Bill Clinton... you know, what his platform was originally.

Don't forget in 1994 Bill Clinton got a all Republican congress and contract with America that brought spending under better control of which Clinton the master politicion took credit for. Today all leadership in the Democratic party are committed leftist with their my way or the highway attitude. Just like the GOP before 2006 with the hard rightys not willing to compromise on anything.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3030 times:



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
unless of course if the republicans block and interrupt every legislation that he is trying to pass.

I'd love for you to give us all a civics lesson on how that is even remotely possible given the numbers in Congress.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 11):
Gerald Ford (R)

Caretaker, not elected and didn't even serve one full term.

All depends on two things, the economy and interest rates. If either one goes badly, it'll be one term and out.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3013 times:



Quoting TheGov (Thread starter):
Barack Obama - One Term President?

He hasn't even been a one year president yet - it's far too early to tell. The 2010 elections will tell us something, but even if the Democrats take a beating (which they well could), it doesn't necessarily mean the end for Obama in 2012.

There also is the issue that as of now, there is no prominent viable Republican out there to look toward. The Democrats had two post-2004: Obama and Clinton. The GOP has Palin, Jindal and Romney. Neither Palin nor Jindal have publicly done much to make a case for themselves yet, and Romney still has the same problems from the 2008 campaign - he just doesn't connect to people that well. The GOP has to find someone good, because they're not all that popular at the moment either, and they can't just throw anyone on their ticket and hope to win.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2999 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 15):
He hasn't even been a one year president yet - it's far too early to tell.

Sorry, that rings as hollow as "He hasn't even been in office for 6 months yet!". Yet in those six months he managed to spend more than the previous administration did in several years.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3244 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Threads like these are so stupid... the election is still well more than 3 years away, and plenty of stuff is going to change in that time frame. 2009 will be a distant memory for the vast majority of the voting public.

- Obama has spent a lot of money, indeed, and most of it has yet to be spent. The economy is showing some signs of rebounding, and with most of the stimulus spent in the upcoming calendar year, I think those polls will come back up if the stimulus works as advertised...but who knows, it is politics after all.

- Obama bit off more than he could chew initially. He tried to be everything for everybody, and it wasn't going to work. I think he's started to figure that out, and made his priorities. The economy was the #1 priority, followed by health care.

- Comparing Obama's approval ratings to Bush's or anybody else's is really pretty stupid. Two entirely different circumstances.

- What happens in 2012 is just as much dependent on who the Republicans put up as how Obama has done.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineAustinAirport From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Honestly, I see him being a 1 term president, only because the American people realize the danger in keeping someone in office too long (ahem, Bush). And with that taste in their mouth, they will prolly vote him out.
But no hard feelings. I feel like Obama, and his economic plans, have ultimately led to the stabilization of the economy on a global scale, and that's definitely not to say that he did it all, but I feel like he and his admin. helped a considerably large amount.



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User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

I agree with those who say it's way too early to tell.

I do believe that the Dems will take a beating next year, but still hold on to Congress by the slimmest of margins, but their "mandate" will be gone, and it will be MUCH tougher to get anything done between '10 and '12.

It also depends on who goes up against Obama - if it is Palin, then he can probably keep screwing up like he has, and not worry about not being reelected. If the economy sours again, and the GOP runs Romney and Jindal as VP, then I think Obama will be gone.

Reagan had an awful recession in his first term, yet he won by a landslide in '84. Clinton moved to the center after his leftist garbage, and he handily beat Bob Dole in '96. So there is precedent here. If Obama can get over himself and move to the center, then it will be very difficult to defeat him in 2012. If he does get reelected, my prediction is that he would have a GOP Congress from 2013-2017, and will be a lame duck for his entire 2nd term.

We're still a center-right country, and the GOP is ahead 5 points on the generic Rasmussen congressional ballot right now. What that tells me is that the independents are losing faith fast. These were the folks who may have supported W, but were willing to give Obama a chance. If the independents remain unhappy, then it will be over for Pelosi and Obama.

Just my 2 cents.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7951 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2941 times:



Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 12):
As dumb as most moderates are, they know a Jimmy Carter when they see it.

Oh, so now an entire political movement is "dumb"? Moderates are dumb - source? Evidence? Citation? Those of us who reside comfortably in the center are by no means dumb - we're just less *blind* than those who are unable to tear themselves away from any number of completely ineffective ideologies.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10728 posts, RR: 38
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Too early to tell. So much can happen between now and the next election including totally unpredictable events.  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2912 times:
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I sure hope so!

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
Man the day that happens, is the day I move to Canada.

Didn't a bunch of so-called celebrities say that when GWB got elected and then re-elected? I'll help you pack my friend!!!  smile 



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User currently onlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12061 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2793 times:



Quoting TheGov (Thread starter):
Granted, he was handed quite a full plate back in January, but it appears that he is now about to be overwhelmed by the addition of the universal health care issue. Even his most ardent supporters (the media) seem to be questioning his ability to lead.

Bush did not leave him with a plate full of problems. Bush left him with suggested solutions, yet Obama went his own way. He has already spent more money than all previous Presidents, and he has only been in office for 7 months. Health care is his own doing, he choose to put that little gem on his plate himself.

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
I know before long things will start to get better, unless of course if the republicans block and interrupt every legislation that he is trying to pass. I think even after four years, people will still remember the nightmare that Bush was. And besides, who would be elected besides Obama? Sarah Palin?

How can the Repubs derail anything of BHO's right now. You said it, now go on, tell us how.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 6):
Way too soon to be determined.

Correct.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 6):
Bush got re-elected after what many thought was a disastrous first term. .

Perthaps, but the Dems nominated someone who scared them more than Bush. They nominated Kerry.

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 7):
Yea, but it doesn't stop them from getting their goons together to go out and fearmonger with all this crap about Obama wants to kill old people and whatnot and Obama wants to take peoples guns.



Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 7):
People are very vulnerable to believe anythng they here, especially old people, and with the republicans spreading propoganda like this, we won't get anything done.



Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 9):
Welcome to big boy school.



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 10):
Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 7):
GWB had a struggling economy. Coming off the largest economic expansion in U.S. history and he had a struggling economy? Show me proof an i'll accept it.

There was a recession that started in late 2000.

Correct, as a result of the dot com bubble burst under Clinton in July 2000.

http://www.nber.org/cycles/november2001/hall_files/image002.gif

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 11):
continuing high rates of dead or crippled American soldiers

Prove that statement. It is unfortunate that we loose any of our finest, or any of them get hurt. But, when you put all of the Iraq and Afghanistan numbers together, over the past 8 years, you come up with the same as one month of Vietnam calsuaties.

Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 22):
Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
Man the day that happens, is the day I move to Canada.

Didn't a bunch of so-called celebrities say that when GWB got elected and then re-elected? I'll help you pack my friend!!!

Yes, they did, I will also help FuturePilot16 pack, I'll even bring my truck and drive him to the boarder.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2778 times:



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 22):

Quoting FuturePilot16 (Reply 1):
Man the day that happens, is the day I move to Canada.

Didn't a bunch of so-called celebrities say that when GWB got elected and then re-elected?

Funny, I was watching the HBO documentary Right America: Feeling Wronged, and several of the McCain supporters interviewed stated they would move to Canada if Obama won the elections.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
25 JBirdAV8r : Which proves that the country has melodramatic whiners of every persuasion.
26 Max550 : The guy has been in office for 8 months and 11 days, isn't it a bit early to discuss whether he'll be re-elected? I think Republicans ought to focus o
27 JBirdAV8r : Who has said this? I've not seen it.
28 EGTESkyGod : ... Yogi Bear...? That's a joke name, right?! LMFAO!!!
29 FuturePilot16 : Yeah that's the nickname of a legendary baseball player. And it's Yogi Berra.
30 Post contains links Rara : http://xkcd.com/180/
31 N229NW : This thread is a joke, right? Waaaaay too early to tell... The character Yogi Bear was named after the baseball player "yoggi" Berra...
32 Cws818 : True. Bush left Obama with an entire buffet full of problems.
33 Ipodguy7 : I pray to God that he will be a one term president, if he hasn't destroyed America and seized absolute power by then.
34 Fr8Mech : His presidency is poisoned by Pelosi, Reid and gang. It's poisoned by an economy that won't recover as quickly as it should because of HIS policies. I
35 NIKV69 : I love how the left here just say things that make no sense just to bash us. You forget you don't need any republican votes to pass anything you want
36 QXatFAT : Part of the poisening is the likes of the wacko left in the House, yes, but a lot of it is his own poisening. The man I honestly believe can not hand
37 Max550 : From talking to people at the couple town halls I've gone to that's the impression I've gotten. I know it's exaggerating to say 100%, but not much. H
38 WarRI1 : The cartoon creators of Yogi Bear denied that according to Wikipedia. The nickname came from someone saying he looked like a Hindu Holy Man, and it s
39 Fr8Mech : Stimulus, for one. The record inflation that's going to hit when we have to start printing money to cover the deficit. Out-of-control spending. Thoug
40 WarRI1 : Yes, I know Obama, before I get chastised for a typo. The fingers do not follow the brain too well, or vise versa.
41 Us330 : Look who he was up against--John Kerry--not exactly known for being able to connect with the voters. Exactly--the election will be determined by how
42 Post contains links Max550 : It was already over $1.1T. Yes, it's gone up and I don't think we can continue this into the future, but it's not all created by Obama, we'd be in a
43 WarRI1 : Now that statement is not going to be too poular among the right side of the aisle on here, why that cannot be, isn't everything Obama's fault in his
44 Mir : Yeah, and if we were electing presidents every six months that would be relevant. But we're not, so it isn't. See where the country is in two years a
45 Captaink : What is that supposed to mean. I think the US wasn't segregated nation? :S
46 Cws818 : Well, officially, segregation in the US ended with Chief Justice Warren's unanimous opinion in "Brown v. Bd. of Education." Sadly, there exist some w
47 KC135TopBoom : But, Bush didn't cry about what "he inharited". He knew about it going into office, including all the "W" buttons removed from all the keyboards. Joe
48 Czbbflier : LOL- You don't know Canadian politicians! I don't think it's a matter of Obama 'getting over himself' or any other of the theories that I've read in
49 JBirdAV8r : And people say Sarah Palin would have made a dumb VP?
50 Thebatman : Obama: "Over the last fifteen months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states, I think — one left to go
51 Max550 : We should have liquidated GM and Chrysler, gotten rid of all those jobs, and then not done the stimulus because it threw people out of work? Interest
52 Cws818 : Of course he did. However, the problems kept on mounting as Bush's time in office dwindled. And if, as you say, Bush was hard at work on all these pr
53 AGM100 : Personaly I am not focused on the President .... I am looking towards congress. A big house cleaning in 2010 ( including Rhinos ) . I really believe t
54 Fr8Mech : How can he come back to the center? He was never there. He would need to go where he has never been. He hoodwinked a lot of tired or gullible or apat
55 Cws818 : The economy was not growing, though.
56 ER757 : That's a bit melodramatic, isn't it? I heard folks on the far left saying the exact same things about Bush when he was in office. America's gonna be
57 AGM100 : Now wait a second .... he was just hanging around with those elements " learning " how to be bi partisan. Actually President Obama says that in his b
58 KC135TopBoom : New math. Did you buy a 2009 GM or Chrysler model this year, before either filed for bankruptcy protection? That would have helped them. But no inste
59 AGM100 : Now wait a second .... he was just hanging around with those elements " learning " how to be bi partisan. Actualy President Obama says that in his bo
60 Fr8Mech : You're right it was not growing and Stimulus aborted any growth that was going to happen. But I still stand, that if they needed to close up they sho
61 WarRI1 : I may not agree with all you say, but I will give you an atta-boy for buying American. Good selection. Same, good selection. Buy American. Just my hu
62 AustinAirport : I've looked all over. Google, maps, even checked my local library, and I just cant find the "boarder." I know right! He's so evil! Oh, and he's black
63 WarRI1 : One has to remember, that we all make mistakes, typo's are common, even I make them, hard to believe, I know. Top Boom hit an extra 'a' in border. So
64 SW733 : When Bush was starting his second term, is there really anyone who though Obama would be the next President? The point is, our next President could b
65 WarRI1 : See what I mean! Look at all those comma's.
66 RootsAir : How many people didn't say that if bush was reelected...and actually I'm sure no one did it Regards BM
67 EGTESkyGod : I know... I saw... It just looked like Yogi Bear, hence my thought it was a joke... but then... ... You learn something new every day I guess...
68 KC135TopBoom : I agree, partially. It is good to listen to all points of view before you decide where your politics will be. It is just that BHO chose the wrong way
69 AustinAirport : LOL. My Blackberry always puts it in for me! Dang you netbook! Hmm, I like the man, and yet I'm judging him by color? No. Gay Straight Black White At
70 Fr8Mech : Then why did you bring up the fact that he's black? No one else alluded to it.
71 KC135TopBoom : Then why would you even write this? Even sarcasticly?
72 AustinAirport : I'm from the South. I see it nearly everyday. People with seething bitter rage, that a black man is president! God Forbid. It makes me sick that we s
73 Fxramper : Sure, I'll bite and agree with it (for now). Some drastic things need to happen to assure he'll even be given a shot at re-election (Hillary wants it)
74 Bmacleod : As long as he stays above 50% Obama should be safe. In the 2004 election Bush's popularitry dipped to 50% and he just slid by Kerry. Also this is onl
75 Baroque : Tunnel vision is too wide angle for that to hold, WADR WarRI1.
76 KC135TopBoom : I live in Texas, too, in Fort Worth. I don't see it very often. Fort Worth is a solid Republican town. Austin, TX is a solid Democrat town. Could tha
77 JBirdAV8r : I'm from the South and I never see it. The people I see seething with bitter rage about the way our country is being run would be just as upset wheth
78 PPVRA : I live in Georgia and I don't see anything like that, either.
79 CALTECH : From the south too, and AustinAirport is right, there are a lot of African Americans with a seething bitter rage that a half black/half white man is
80 AustinAirport : I'm from Bell County. The County seat being Belton. I see it everyday. Some of my "acquaintances" at school say stuff like "I want him dead." It's ju
81 KC135TopBoom : Correct. The "disagreement" we have with BHO has nothing to do with his race. Correct. People who automaticlly say "you don't agree with Obama becaus
82 Dreadnought : The votes for Bush were as much against Kerry. A lot of people couldn't stand the sanctimonious prick. Mitt Romney evokes some of the same feelings.
83 Bmacleod : Sorry, Palin would be in Mondale's shoes...
84 L-188 : No, she would be Ronald Reagan, vs. Jimmy Carter. That being said I don't see her winning a republican primary at this time. This country will be muc
85 Longhornmaniac : You know you have no credibility when you say something like that, right? Cheers, Cameron
86 L-188 : Obama has no credibility when he speaks......PERIOD. Why are you giving me a hard time?
87 Longhornmaniac : Entirely subjective. I disagree. See how that works? I don't think he's done everything right thus far, but he's also only 1/8th of the way into his
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