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F1 2009: Italian Grand Prix  
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4814 times:

Decided to start this new thread a few days early with BIG news that

Fisichella will be driving a Ferrari!!!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78280

Let us Formula 1 Fans continue our discussions here

Thank you!

Lap to come!

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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4802 times:

I'm actually surprised about this.
On the other hand, Ferrari most likely knew that Vijay wouldn't say no as that would not help his case with the &10 million dollar bill he needs he has on his desk.

Will Fisi be able to do good in the F60? Sorry but I don't have high hopes for this.
One reason being that he will need to adjust to the F60 Friday before the race. A totally different car from his Force India. Which is out of his control though.

Secondly, and you can flame me if you like, I don't find Fisi to be that great of a driver. He knows how to keep it on the track, but that's where it ends. His days as a winner has passed. Although, at Spa he showed some strong performance.

It might be a dream for an Italian, which he is actually not  
to drive for Ferrari, but he also needs to do well in order to get my vote.
Well, he might be doing just that, so I still wish him good luck, and that he can fullfill his dream. Will for sure be better then Mr. Look howbadyouare, and Ferrari now has a bigger chance to secure third place in the WCC.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/9866.html

I hope Vitantonio Liuzzi will be able to take Fisi's seat in the Force India. I liked watching him as he was pretty wild.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden

[Edited 2009-09-03 08:11:04]


When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

Well. can he be worse than Badoer? no, considering you can't go below last, so at least hopes are up that something better might come out from all this.
If the miracle happens, and an Italian driving a Ferrari wins in Italy ... wow!! Big grin

What I am getting more and more angry with is the test ban. It's ridiculous that a team that suffers the loss of a driver due to injury, especially when this injury is produced by anothger car, can not have the chance of allowing the substitute to try the car.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4794 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Thread starter):
Fisichella will be driving a Ferrari!!!

It was his dream! And considering his good performance in Spa, this is not a bad choice from Ferrari. Time will tell anyway!



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4790 times:



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 2):
What I am getting more and more angry with is the test ban. It's ridiculous that a team that suffers the loss of a driver due to injury, especially when this injury is produced by anothger car, can not have the chance of allowing the substitute to try the car.

Yes, if a team has to change drivers for whatever reason, the FIA should allow the new driver to do at least some hundreds of km in the current F1.



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User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4790 times:



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 2):
What I am getting more and more angry with is the test ban. It's ridiculous that a team that suffers the loss of a driver due to injury, especially when this injury is produced by anothger car, can not have the chance of allowing the substitute to try the car.

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This is great news, Fisichella is probably the best they could of got although they could of tried to get Kubica but anyones better than Luca he was absolutely shocking. hopefully seeing as spa and monza are similar Ferrari should be good for the 1-2



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Fisi and Ferrari should go well at Monza. That track will be very well suited to the KERS equipped cars.


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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4786 times:



Quoting T1210s (Reply 5):
This is great news, Fisichella is probably the best they could of got although they could of tried to get Kubica but anyones better than Luca he was absolutely shocking. hopefully seeing as spa and monza are similar Ferrari should be good for the 1-2

I think the "Italian factor" might have had something to do with it. I'm very happy for Fisico .. never the greatest driver in history, but always a good driver, and a familiar face on the grid. And he has the chance of ending (?) his career with what I assume has been one of his greatest dreams in racing; driving the Ferrari.



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User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4777 times:



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 7):
And he has the chance of ending (?) his career with what I assume has been one of his greatest dreams in racing; driving the Ferrari.

I understand that Fisi will become a test driver for Ferrari when Massa comes back.

This would likely mean he will remain in F1, but will not be a regular driver.

I am happy for him. He seems to be similar to Felipe Massa, where as...he's a good driver...consistent...but not the best.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Oh.. VJ finally changed his mind and let him go! I guess he did not have much choice.
The Italian Tifosi will be raving about this!!



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User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4760 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
Oh.. VJ finally changed his mind and let him go! I guess he did not have much choice.

"We would like to stress that we have not agreed any financial settlement with Ferrari"

I bet after last weeks result VJ wishes he had stuck his hand in his pocket and paid Ferrari



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4759 times:



Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 8):
I am happy for him. He seems to be similar to Felipe Massa, where as...he's a good driver...consistent...but not the best.

could not agree more.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
The Italian Tifosi will be raving about this!!

At least I know I am!  Smile

If only he could win in Monza ...
 hyper 



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

Have they come up clear with what/who caused the crash in Spa where Hammy went into the wall? I have had no time to follow the news these last few days.

 Yeah sure  Confused



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User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4745 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 12):
Have they come up clear with what/who caused the crash in Spa where Hammy went into the wall?

So you can drag that driver to court?  Wink
They will not investigate that any further anyway. He got hit, end of story.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineT1210s From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4745 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 12):
Have they come up clear with what/who caused the crash in Spa where Hammy went into the wall? I have had no time to follow the news these last few days.

Fact The Stewards received a report from the Race Director which stated that an incident
involving Car No: 1 - Lewis Hamilton and Car No: 11 - Jaime Alguersuari took place
during the Race.
Action The Stewards after hearing the explanation of both the Competitors representatives and
the drivers decided that the incident requires no further action.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ia/Documents/bel09_document_36.pdf



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4742 times:



Quoting T1210s (Reply 14):

Thanks a lot for the info. All is clear now.  idea 



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4740 times:



Quoting T1210s (Reply 14):
Action The Stewards after hearing the explanation of both the Competitors representatives and
the drivers decided that the incident requires no further action

Yeah, it was just a race incident. If the FIA is punishing everyone for trying to go through a turn in the traffic jam, drivers might as well stop racing completely!



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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

i will be attending the italian GP in a week and a half's time! i can't wait. it is my first f1 race and it is at monza. It is pretty exciting to hear an italian will be racing for ferrari in italy.

forza fisi and forza ferrari!


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4719 times:



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 17):
it is my first f1 race and it is at monza

Congratulations!! It's always a nice experience to attend a F1 race. I hope you have ear plugs as engines are really noisy! And please bring us some pictures  Smile

My first GP was in 1991. I saw Prost, Senna, Mansell and Co! I even have a picture of me next to Senna's McLaren  praise  Big grin

Unforgettable! And it will be the same for you  Wink



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4707 times:
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Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 4):
Yes, if a team has to change drivers for whatever reason, the FIA should allow the new driver to do at least some hundreds of km in the current F1.

A better solution would be to drop the testing ban altogether, without a spending cap it is pointless anyway.
Teams just spend the money on other things like 8 post chassisis rigs and simulations that may make the car technically better(sometimes) but do little to enhance the driver/car package.

Cheers



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Great news...was expected anyway. Didn't Force India pull out of the Ferrari engine deal a bit early? Guess now its time for VJ to repay Ferrari. Luca Badoer didn't have a chance..with the constructors championship so close Ferrari couldn't afford to let Luca come in last at every race. At least this is great news for Fisi..lets see how he does for the rest of the season..should be very interesting.


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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4700 times:



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 17):
i will be attending the italian GP in a week and a half's time! i can't wait. it is my first f1 race and it is at monza. It is pretty exciting to hear an italian will be racing for ferrari in italy.

good luck and congrats!! Nothing beats watching the race on the track!
My first race was the Argentina GP in 1995, won by Damon Hill. Until then I liked F1, but wasn't crazy about it. After that race, I fell in love with it. Since then I saw every Arg GP .. the last one being the best, with Schumi winning for Ferrari under the rain Big grin

I was also lucky to attend several Brazilian GP's at Interlagos (95 to 2001), and in the VIP area to make it even better Big grin

Since then I'm still dreaming of being able to attend another race, especially Monza!



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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4694 times:



Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 18):
Congratulations!! It's always a nice experience to attend a F1 race. I hope you have ear plugs as engines are really noisy! And please bring us some pictures Smile

I will be bringing earplugs.

I will be going to the pitwalk on thursday so hopefully will be able to get some nice close up pictures of the cars going together.

For the race i am sitting at the first chicane so hopefully the cars aren't going by too fast.
I am so excited.


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4687 times:

Scrubbs, you're going to have the time of your life! Just make sure every piece of clothing you're wearing has a prancing horse on it  Smile. Speaking of attending GPs, I was thrilled to see the provisional calendar released a week or so ago that lists the Canadian GP in its traditional june slot! I've been going every year since 1999 to that race and its cancellation this year was really, really crappy for me, as it's the only event I can attend at a somewhat reasonable cost, but now it's back! Hopefully Ferrari will be competitive next year, haven't seen them win there since 2004!

User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

So now there is actually a seat free at Force India, so who would you like to see driving for them? Liuzzi will most likely get that seat, but I would also like to see Sato back. He was really showing some good performance before the end of SA.

I bet there are many drivers who is contacting Vijay now for the seat as this might wel lead to a permanent contract for next year if performance is good.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
25 T1210s : its unfortunate for force india they went well at spa and should do well again at monza but sutil was way off of fisi's pace and any new driver they g
26 GrahamHill : What about Narain Karthikeyan? Did you know that this dude was supposed to race at the 24 Hours of Le Mans 3 months ago? But just 10 minutes before t
27 Sudden : Sorry, but allow me to.... Well, at least he never got the chance to break the car this time. Aim for the sky! Sudden
28 StealthZ : It seems the FIA may be convening an extraordinary meeting of the World Council on Sep 21 with the object of examining the allegations that Renault "f
29 GrahamHill : Nope, but put his team in an uncomfortable position has they had to race 24 hours with 2 drivers instead of 3. What happened again with Alonso in 200
30 GrahamHill : *as they had... (sorry I can't edit my post)
31 Sudden : If you could we would not be able to see your mistakes! Aim for the sky! Sudden
32 Post contains links GrahamHill : This is strange because sometimes I can edit my posts, and sometimes not... Weird. Back to F1, Toyota said they will not leave F1, but will reduce it
33 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : This week's cartoon: Kimi Raikkonen perfectly made the best of his KERS (Kontract Energy Recovery System) to win in Spa.
34 Sudden : Hahaha...........good one mate! I do wonder what will happen for next year cause the last couple of races Kimi has showed his old fighting spirit. Pe
35 MadameConcorde : A Sunday without a Grand Prix... cannot be a good Sunday... I look forward to next Sunday and the race in Monza.
36 Cornish : Well the rallying rumour has been doing the rounds thanks to his appearance on the Rally Finland this year, but all the latest rumours are saying he
37 StealthZ : Badoer having a moan!! Is he completely ignorant of how much qualifying last* AND finishing last might have influenced the decision as well? Cheers *T
38 MadameConcorde : Hey Scrubbs I hope you will have a great time in Monza. I would really like being there too believe me as it is only some 3 hours away from here by tr
39 GrahamHill : Agreed. You have to be naive or blind to imagine that the Ferrari management sacked you just because they read bad comments in newspapers This behavi
40 GrahamHill : If I were living 3 hours away, I would not bother with accomodation. I would leave my place early on Sunday morning and go back straight after the ra
41 Cornish : Liuzzi is now confirmed as driving for Force India at Monza. No surprise as their test driver and with GP experience. Lets see if he can repeat Force
42 ScrubbsYWG : You bet they are expensive! I am more of a hostel person and even they ratcheted up the rates to like 40 euro a night. It is unfortunate i am spendin
43 Sudden : I think he will find himself without a testing contract as of next year as Fisi has far more experience them him anyway. And Ferrari are for sure not
44 Photopilot : The answer IMHO would appear to be quite simple. Allow each F1 team a single "test" engine for the entire season. A totally sealed unit, they can dri
45 MadameConcorde : I would love going to Monza for the day and I have thought about it really. Looking at the rather crazy train schedules - train changes - it is not re
46 Sudden : So what's your point!? Just go and have a good time, and while your at it, this might be a good time to invite moi! Aim for the sky! Sudden
47 Post contains images GrahamHill : I was not referring to a train journey, but to a car journey   (although I realised I did not mention it at all...) Otherwise, you can ask Prince Al
48 MadameConcorde : There are good chances that it might be raining on race day in Monza and maybe even on Saturday.
49 EZEIZA : Aren't you usually happy with that forecast? I remember someone being veeeery pleased when rain was due on most GP's last season
50 ScrubbsYWG : Good thing I brought my ponch and umbrella! It would be neat to see a wet race as long as it isn't monsoon style. I am sitting at the first chicane s
51 MadameConcorde : Oh definitely. GPs are always more challenging for the drivers when it rains. The more rain the better! I would not want to be there in the mud thoug
52 GrahamHill : Rain + first chicane seat? Be prepared for some nice action at the start !
53 Flyboysp : Let us hope that there is action the whole way through the race, instead of merely being a procession. If it does rain, i hope it does not turn into
54 GrahamHill : I don't think we can expect a tropical monsoon over Italy like it happened in Sepang. Usually the Mediterranean climate is "softer" and it should be
55 EZEIZA : I had almost forgotten about the whole darkness deal .... pathetic moment in F1 history!
56 Post contains links Sudden : De la Rosa might be back racing as of next year. He is currently discussing the options with Campos. He says nothing has been put on paper yet, so it'
57 StealthZ : Seems Ferrari is now asking for a testing dispensation for Massa, Stefano & Luca, Damnit stop pushing the limits. The testing ban was agreed by the te
58 Sudden : If it's only down to test to see if Massa is fit enough or for whatever reason really, then he can do just what MS did, and have a go in the 2007 car
59 GrahamHill : Why Massa? He is not planned to come back before next season, is he?
60 EZEIZA : I thought so too ... but what is the problem withg Massa testing the car? He is one of the two Ferrari drivers isn't he? Wouldn't it be against the r
61 EZEIZA : btw, Ferrari will have Banco Santander as sponsor for the next five years ... Spanish sponsor = Alonso for 2010?
62 Sudden : I'm not so sure about this to be honest. It is silly season, so there is so much talk that you don't know what to think. Is it just me, or did Kimi g
63 MadameConcorde : I am just out of the hospital. Fat chance that I ever get to Monza this year. I literally crashed msyelf and really thought I had died at a bus stop e
64 GrahamHill : What happened??! I hope everything is alright now for you!
65 EZEIZA : a short while is still too much! what happened?! glad to see you're ok!
66 Sudden : I probably speak for everyone here when I say: - Thank God your ok! All of us here have "known" you now for some time, and it also shows as you write
67 EZEIZA : well, he has been more or less consistent throughout the season, but some of the competitors were faster. In the last race, half of the competitors c
68 StealthZ : Firstly, let me join with others in wishing MadameC well and we are all happy you are on the road to recovery. Just missing a little bit.... the testi
69 Waterpolodan : I don't think he got his pace back, I think the car is more competitive and if Massa were healthy, he'd still be out performing Kimi rather handily.
70 Post contains links Springbok747 : Glad to hear MadameC is ok. Back to the F1...I can't see Fisi finishing anywhere near the podium, maybe some points, but I'm sure he'll do better than
71 Legoguy : Echoing the words of above, good to hear MadameC is ok. It now seems that Piquet's crash in Singapore 2008 was indeed on purpose, that much is known.
72 BlueElephant : Madam C. glad to hear that you're ok. Our thoughts and Prayers are with Hamilton for a win in Monza in your honour Ok ok...at least mine are :-P But s
73 Sudden : Might be, but they have no more updates for the car for the rest of the season. So not sure where they were able to improve the car. I'm not hinting
74 MadameConcorde : Thank you all for your kind messages and good wishes. They are very much appreciated. It is such a weird experience having some time period of life to
75 Sudden : What could be is in a way irrelevant. Try not to think too much about it, and aim your focus towards actually still be among us. All of us wouldn't w
76 MadameConcorde : Thank you! I am really going to enjoy watching Monza!! It will be a feast for my eyes!!
77 GrahamHill : First practice session results: Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:23.936 26 2. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:24.332 + 0
78 Sudden : Looks like Fisi is enjoying his time. Who would think anything else really. Compare this with Badoer, who's time was so far of the others that it alm
79 StealthZ : Oh, this debacle just gets better & better!! Maybe McLaren should have gone on the offensive 2 years ago and charged Alonso with blackmail!
80 Sudden : Wonder who will be the hero in this soap opera. Criminal proceedings!? That might actually turn out ugly, for Briatore that is! Aim for the sky! Sudd
81 StealthZ : Not sure this soap opera has any heroes!! Cheers
82 Post contains images GrahamHill : Yes, I think Fisico is a muuuuuuch better choice than Badoer! He still needs to adapt to the F60, but I'm sure it won't be too much of a problem and
83 StealthZ : Ludovico Scarfiotti in 1966 Cheers
84 Post contains links Legoguy : Apparently Piquet has been granted immunity by Mosley. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78483
85 GrahamHill : Thanks StealthZ! So it's almost an eternity!
86 EZEIZA : thanks for that, I honestly wasn't aware that the ban included the two drivers. Question though; since we know Massa won't come back until next seaso
87 MadameConcorde : Oh definitely! I was happy to see that the two McLarens - and their drivers - did the best times at Monza today! Let's wait until tomorrow and then s
88 StealthZ : And that would be different to anyone else testing the car... How? The team could derive some development benefit if he was allowed to drive the car,
89 EZEIZA : That he wouldn't be able to use whatever he gains from testing since he won't drive the car in any GP. could be .. but I don't think so honestly. In
90 StealthZ : This is not penalising Ferrari, it would have been the same for any other team it is merely bad luck it happened to Massa. EZEIZA, you constantly moa
91 Sudden : Apparently it's too long ago, so that's not an option anymore, says Bernie. Sutil/Force India looking strong! Topping the time sheet today again in p
92 MadameConcorde : Yup! I saw this and was quite surprised. I bet there is one happy VJ there in Monza. This is just practice. Let's see how Qualifyings go later today.
93 StealthZ : Damn it, not every day that I find agreement with Max M It would merely allow the rich teams to clog up the grid and make it harder than ever for new
94 Sudden : Although, the Force India cars have always had the straight-line speed + that we have never seen them topping the time sheets, even during practise,
95 StealthZ : Seems Australia's F1 broadcaster lied again, Qualifying appears to be delayed despite what their schedule says. Fracking Football is there not enough
96 Flyboysp : It's annoying having to wait until midnight to watch qualy, when it will be over by more than an hour.
97 MadameConcorde : I am watching Qualifyings on RaiDue. Hammy just won Pole! Yiiiiipppppeeeee!!!!!
98 Cpd : I've given up on One because of this. Now I don't need to watch qualifying. Hope you are feeling better MadameC.
99 GrahamHill : I am impressed with Force India! They are confirming their excellent performances of the Belgian GP. Looks like Fisico should have stayed
100 MadameConcorde : Hammy gave me a Big boost of energy! I want him to WIN tomorrow! I will celebrate big time!!! Go Hammy!!!!!
101 Sudden : Congrats to MadameC for the pole. Great job by Sutil, and not to forget Liuzzi who really showed that he still got it. I hope this might be the ticket
102 MadameConcorde : I was cheering him and clapping so maybe he got my message on the subconscious level? I was thinking the exact same thing! As I was watching on Rai D
103 NA : Madame, also congrrats from me for Lewis´ pole. This was the most thrilling practice session this year and a guarantee for an interesting start tomor
104 MadameConcorde : Again I did not do very much other than sending him positive thoughts! Now we will have to wait and see what tomorrow brings. F1 is so totally unpred
105 Sudden : You probably didn't do much, but in light of what you have been going through lately, it's actually nice to be able to congrat you on that pole. One
106 ScrubbsYWG : So I attended qualy today and it was so exhilirating. I cannont wait until the first corner where I am sitting. I don't think we can be so quick to sa
107 EZEIZA : no sir, anyone here of the usual F1 suspects can say (and if you want you can go through the return of MS thread) that I have always said the test ba
108 StealthZ : Simplistically, the final standings would not be so different but the extra points for Hamilton would have perhaps denied us the final lap drama at I
109 Waterpolodan : Yep, Hammy was ahead of Massa in Singapore so nothing would have changed in terms of the fight for the title if Alonso were thrown out of that GP.
110 MadameConcorde : Hey Scrubbs great to hear from you and thank you for your "live" update. I don't see any sign of rain looking out to the mountains of Italy in the di
111 Sudden : I think we can be all very sure that if it turns out that Renault is guilty, FIA will punish them with something far worse then having a few points s
112 Tsv : What's the weather forecast?
113 Post contains links MadameConcorde : I looked again over the mountains on the Italian side. There seem to be no sign of rain. Weather man seems to think the same. http://fr.weather.com/w
114 T1210s : fuel adjusted grid 1 Kovalainen (lap 28) 2 Rubens Barrichello +0.016secs (lap 30) 3 Lewis Hamilton +0.047secs (lap 16) 4 Jenson Button +0.073 (lap 29)
115 Sudden : Broadcasting has started here with interviews and other goodies, and the weather is dry and sunny, at the moment. Santander moving over to Ferrari as
116 StealthZ : Been quite a few of those in the last few days- -Santander continuing with McLaren as well as Ferrari -Mercedes buying up to 75% of Brawn with the ca
117 MadameConcorde : I vote for Brawns dressed in purple and McLarens staying as they are. Serious.
118 Springbok747 : Hm..good start but whats the deal with the 2nd McLaren..Heiki seems to be going backwards. And what a terrible start for Webber..hes out on the 1st la
119 MIAspotter : And the race is GO!! Amazing start, loads of battles going on, great start for Kimi, Kovi seems to be having problems or maybe he is just too heavy. M
120 Flyboysp : I believe that a team would/will tell a driver to crash. If one is desperate enough........
121 Tiger119 : I did not read all the notes on this thread but what I would like to know is this race that I am watching on SpeedTV in The U.S. live or taped delayed
122 MadameConcorde : Two Brawns in front with Hammy behind them. Their one pit stop strategy might pay off in tne end. We will see.
123 StealthZ : As I write this at approx 8:40EDT the race is approx 40 min old and at lap 26, so you might be watching it live, or minimally delayed
124 Springbok747 : Looks like Brawn are going to take 1-2 with Hamilton in 3rd..good job by Brawn again.
125 Springbok747 : HOLY CRAP Lewis is out and Brawn 1-2!
126 MadameConcorde : How did Hammy manage that spin? Good thing he did not hit too hard at least he is up and walking poor thing! I am so sad for him. As I always said F1
127 GrahamHill : Congrats to Barichello!!! And another 1-2 finish for Brawn, which is more than welcome for the championship! At this stage, it will be difficult for a
128 Photopilot : Hamilton crashed on purpose so Kimi and Ferrari could finish on the podium and keep the Tifosi happy! Bernie ordered it. It's a conspiracy...LOL!!!
129 EZEIZA : we are ... I was just being nice about the race ... not much happened but still interesting. A SUPERB race for the brawns, both in driving and in str
130 Tiger119 : Good job Rubens. I still wish we had a race at Indy! David
131 MadameConcorde : Lewis Hamilton on BBC One: "Every lap I was pushing like a qualifying lap. It's to be expected. We didn't have the pace so we were pushing hard - I di
132 EZEIZA :
133 NA : Great performance of the Brawns. Like Ferrari in Schumi´s years. After a few disappointments they are at the top again. I guess Buttons title is pret
134 Waterpolodan : I wouldn't be so quick to say that- Rubens has been consistently quicker in recent races, and he's excellent at Suzuka plus he'll have the "home fiel
135 ScrubbsYWG : I get the sense that this race was boring on tv. But honestly OMG that was the best sports spectacle I have ever been to. The atmosphere is just cool.
136 MadameConcorde : Oh wow! You got your own piece of McLaren treasure there and coming from Hammy's car! I was never that lucky! I have to say I am very envious!! There
137 GrahamHill : Niiiiiiiiiice!!! I've been to tons of races but never got lucky to pick up any debris from any crash site. Keep it safe! That's a nice souvenir
138 Sudden : Well, you know what they say "size doesn't matter" If you keep it up like this you might be able to build your own F1 car in lets say 400 years. But
139 Springbok747 : Hopefully he'll start finishing in the points soon. Ferrari need all the constructors points they can get, especially with McLaren getting stringer.
140 Post contains links GrahamHill : Santander extends Partnership with Vodafone McLaren Mercedes: http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/press-releases.php?article=353 Some are not affected b
141 Scbriml : That was a bit of a surprise given Alonso's departure from McLaren. Many were forecasting that when the current sponsorship deal ended, Santander wou
142 EZEIZA : Probably ... and he is the current Champion. Next year they'll have two WDC, and probably they'll have both teams fighting for another one. Smart mov
143 ScrubbsYWG : I know I can't believe I found a piece of his car either. It was so long after the race that I found it, so I never thought I would get anything. The
144 Post contains links LTU932 : " target=_blank>http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/pr...e=353 I thought Santander was to become the main sponsor for Ferrari? I read somewhere that thi
145 EZEIZA : correct, that's why I mentioned that it's a smart move if you have the money. They'll be sponsoring at least two former World Champions and by far th
146 Post contains links MadameConcorde : Some great news in my email this morning! No more Pussycat Doll. Yippee!!! http://www.f1singapore.com/news/Hami...x-Drops-F1-Rocks.shtml#singaporegp H
147 StealthZ : Not sure I like this process, any regulars here know I am no great fan of Flavio Briatore but it seems that all the guilty parties are being given im
148 Cornish : Yes I read this in the times today - of the three parties being looked at, 2 are being offered immunity in order to nail Flav it seems. Its no secret
149 Sudden : Amen to that my friend. The last couple of years we have been followed with off track battles in as well as outside the court. It does kill a lot of
150 GrahamHill : That's proper Gestapo methods!! Absolutely scandalous!!!
151 Cornish : What it will almost certainly do is drive another manufacturer out of the sport, which is arguably what Max Moseley wants after the problems with the
152 Sudden : Aint silly season just great. Kova need to step it up anyway cause he's not even close to where Hamilton is able to be with the car. In quali he mana
153 Cornish : Monza almost certainly sealed Kova's fate. He had what was widely believed to be the best balance of fuel/grid position/no. of stops. He also had a M
154 Post contains links GrahamHill : BMW Sauber F1 team have found a buyer: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78655 Problem is: Lotus has been granted a seat for 2010 and there
155 Waterpolodan : I'm not happy about this... why resurrect a great name from the past if it has absolutely nothing to do with the Lotus company in any way, shape or f
156 MadameConcorde : Oh all of this is not too reassuring. I liked the two previous seasons a lot more than this one for all sorts of reasons (not only Hammy) but I feel t
157 Bill142 : That's been going on since the 80's. Nothing is ever going to change there. They will always be arguing over money. As far as I know, it's not happen
158 MadameConcorde : Nico is not German he is a Monegasque born in Monaco. Unless he gave it up he hodds a Monaco passport where dual citizenship does not exist.
159 Boeing74741R : I think it'll be great to see up to 28 cars on the grid next season (assuming Renault doesn't get thrown out over the crashgate saga. My only reserva
160 GrahamHill : Technically, he should not be either German or Monegasque, but Finnish...
161 Bill142 : He races under the German flag, thus he is German. His parents are German and Finnish.
162 GrahamHill : Ah sorry, I did not know his mum was German. Therefore, yes, either German or Finnish then.
163 StealthZ : And raised almost entirely in Germany. My problem with this is that he was quite happy to be part of the scam until things didn't go his way and then
164 Sudden : Need to correct you on this one MadameC as he holds a German as well as Finnish citizenship, and he is racing under the German flag, as Bill142 alrea
165 Cornish : Well aside from Ferrari, McLaren and Williams, and to a lesser extent Renault, none of the teams have THAT long a great pedigree in F1. whether they
166 LTU932 : For all intents and purposes, when the German press makes reference towards Nico Rosberg, they simply say that he's from Wiesbaden, Germany. The only
167 MadameConcorde : I was told Keke and Nico both had Monaco citizenship. Well it must not be then. They must have chosen Monaco for tax conveniences like most residents
168 Sudden : Nico lived there with his family earlier, but his citizenship never changed. Aim for the sky! Sudden
169 Post contains links GrahamHill : Briatore and Symonds leave Renault!!! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78668
170 Sudden : You beat me to it. Anyway, Guilty, Busted, Trapped....you name it! I can't say I feel sorry for them. They will never get a job in F1 again, that's fo
171 StealthZ : Didn't see that coming... Noting that Renault will not contest the allegations, are they expecting the WMSC to go easy on them? With the history Renau
172 MadameConcorde : Good riddance Briatore. Hope to see you never again. ... and soon there should be no more Max!
173 GrahamHill : Let's see who will take over if Renault stays in Formula 1.
174 Post contains links and images GrahamHill : Yes, it looks like plenty of French F1 fans will be happy to see him quitting. I don't think they ever forgave him for not taking Bourdais on board.
175 Scbriml : Pretty shocking turn of events. Especially given Flav's bluster about suing Piquet. Then again, a team management that offers a driver a contract IF h
176 BlueElephant : I can't tell if this is good or not. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days....Renault cannot operate without their director
177 GrahamHill : Nope, I think PSA (which include Peugeot and Citroën) is not going back to F1 after their poor attempts in the 1990s. Now, they are entirely focused
178 Sudden : Maybe they ran with the tail between their legs in order to not have to be prosecuted!? This actually makes FIA's job easier as now they can more or
179 StealthZ : Hadn't they already announced that in any case?
180 BlueElephant : Another interesting prospect... If Renault's 2008 Singapore Grand Prix result is disqualified...then Nico Rosberg will be handed his first race victor
181 GrahamHill : I think Kubica's first victory was in Canada last year.
182 GrahamHill : They might simply face exclusion from the Championship!
183 Sudden : Mosley has already said that they are not able to do that as it was so long ago now. Renault must be very happy with Briatore and Symmonds now. I thi
184 Cornish : Had Renault contested the case at the FIA court and lost then the likelihood is that they would have faced a worldwide motorsport ban in the same mann
185 EZEIZA : Wow! Briatore out this earlt .. they are pretty much saying "we did it"! Maybe they should have thought twice before firing Piquet. It's great to see
186 Post contains images Cornish : No he got immunity. But then he won't get a drive with another F1 team unless Dad buys into one for him.... But I have to say that if such a story wa
187 StealthZ : Trust you meant wouldn't Cheers
188 Cornish : Ta very much - consider my nonsense edited accordingly
189 Bill142 : Renault could have gotten Yuji Ide or David Coulthard in for the race. They would have crashed without being asked. I don't think it can be. Bernie is
190 Boeing74741R : Could the fact that he owns Queens Park Rangers in partnership with Flavio Briatore (even though he's no longer involved in F1) have anything to do w
191 9VSIO : Or Sato. I think all this stuff about "crazy crash" and putting ur driver's life at stake is all out of proportion. The kid isn't that dumb. He's bou
192 T1210s : his time at QPR could be up as well under league rules any director must be removed from the board if they have been banned by any other recognized s
193 Aerobalance : Glad to see Slobio go... How the hell was he allowed to be a drivers manager and a team manager always bothered me - controlling both sides of the fen
194 Shamrock321 : I was at the Italian GP and the racing and athmosphere were great, Ill try and post some pictures from my seat at the first chicane!
195 Sudden : Cool. Bring on the photos. Aim for the sky! Sudden
196 Legoguy : Kimi is reported to have signed an agreement to rejoin McLaren in 2010 as long as Ferrari pay him his contract in full for 2010 which is an estimated
197 Post contains links Boeing74741R : Link: http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5571594,00.html Looks like there's a bit of a tiff going on between McLaren and Mercedes-Benz over
198 Post contains links Boeing74741R : I think Flav's position within QPR is safe in that case, as his resignation means the FIA cannot ban Flav now he's stepped down even if they wanted t
199 MadameConcorde : Good riddance FB! I hope to see you never again not in Monaco or anywhere else. This will be interesting to have Hammy and Kimi in the same team. I w
200 Sudden : This sounds very odd if you ask me. First of all there is no solid source to this. And don't forget, it's silly season. Secondly, Kimi should then ha
201 Legoguy : You could well be right, but if the article is true, it doesn't mean he will be joining. What I gather from it (if true) is that Kimi would agree to
202 LTU932 : There are also rumours that suggest that if Rosberg leaves (e.g. to McLaren or Brawn), Nico Hülkenberg could be recruited by Frank Williams to repla
203 StealthZ : I don't think that McLaren have a split personality but there are increasing signs that McLaren -Mercedes may have some sort of crisis I think the re
204 Sudden : Either way, Alonso must be doing something good, cause he manage to walk away every time. Aim for the sky! Sudden
205 Post contains links GrahamHill : Flavio Briatore has been suspended for life! http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule1/breve...atore-trinque-renault-epargne.html (sorry, link in French)
206 Post contains links Cpd : Absolutely incredible: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...eam-escape-suspended-sentence.html He can't even manage F1 drivers anymore! However, the
207 StealthZ : And Renault get a suspended ban.... For a multiple offender, seems inadequate to me. They got away with spying in 2007 even though found guilty yet th
208 Cpd : No way is it right, it stinks of trying to keep a big name team in F1, when in reality, they are a repeat offender and surely should have been exclud
209 MadameConcorde : My idea of a punishment for Renault was a one year ban.
210 Cornish : As a Paris based organisation, the political ramifications in France for a Renault ban would be huge. And of course many have said that Moseley wanted
211 Sudden : Good! He should not be allowed to either. Webber needs to cut all connections with Briatore asap to not have to stand without a superlicence when tha
212 StealthZ : So the FIA can be bought... Who would have thought it??
213 GrahamHill : Not sure it has anything to do with the location of the office. The FIA is still ruled by an Englishman and presidents of all Federations. I don't th
214 NA : Tthis case is worse than the McLaren-Mercedes spy affair which was fined 100.000.000 $. But today´s the situation is worse. F1 cant afford to loose t
215 Bongodog1964 : What a farce, a suspended sentence for a potentially lethal "accident" It may be argued that F1 needs Renaults money, but what price honesty and safet
216 GrahamHill : Another couple of months and he will be history Jean Todt or Ari Vatanen will be the next president.
217 Davehammer : Absolutely disgraceful. So McLaren should have just threatened to leave then.
218 GrahamHill : This is the new 2010 calendar published today by the FIA: 14/03 : Bahrain 28/03 : Australia 04/04 : Malaisia 18/04 : China 09/05 : Spain 23/05 : Monac
219 Bill142 : All, as this thread is over 200 posts long, I have started a new one for Singapore. There will be plenty of French speakers in the crowd at Canada It
220 StealthZ : Fair point but at the time of spygate McLaren were not a serial offender Perhaps but if the WMSC were anything like a legitimate justice system that
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