FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
So there's this pilot job I want to apply to but they request I send a "current photo" of myself. I nearly made the idiotic mistake of sending one of my former profile pics on facebook. Thing is, I'm not sure how I should present myself in the picture.
I'm guessing I should treat the photo as part of the interview. Should I wear a suit? Or just a white button up shirt with a tie? Full body or upper third or face only? Also, I have a 5o clock shadow going on, I'm assuming that will have to disappear as well?
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7673 posts, RR: 18 Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3480 times:
If you have a jacket/sport coat wear it. Tie and button up shirt underneath.... probably shot from the mid chest on up would suffice. And a shave would most certainly be in order.
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Photopilot From Cuba, joined Jul 2002, 2439 posts, RR: 20 Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3434 times:
Absolutely you must look clean, neat and presentable. The way they would want their staff to look in front of the public.
Remember, when you fly for someone, you represent their company wherever you go, wherever you land.
And for heaven's sake, don't be afraid to smile. Not a big silly toothy grin, but an open, FRIENDLY smile that they'd like to see you give the passengers (if there are any).
So yes, shirt and tie minimum. Jacket is a nice touch.
NO SUNGLASSES either on your face or perched on top of your head. TACKY!!!!
Absolutely clean shaven, hair combed, etc.
Framing, I'd say waist up, or perhaps top 1/3 is ok as well.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19708 posts, RR: 56 Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3426 times:
Yeah, I'd go for the suit and tie, basically what you'd wear if you were going to an interview. I'd take the photo from the upper part of the chest up (in other words, like a passport photo but with a bit more on the bottom).
Though I do have to ask...what sort of pilot job wants a photo?
-Mir
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
The question is, why would any employer want a picture of you. What for?!
In any job I applied for, be it a half-assed low pay job or with an airline, I have never sent a picture of me with a resume. IMO, sending a picture with a resume is unprofessional and inappropriate.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13337 posts, RR: 64 Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3388 times:
Pretty standard practice in Germany. Get a haircut and a shave and wear a conservative suit with shirt and neck tie. Have the picture taken by a professional photographer (chest upwards, like a passport picture).
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12333 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3338 times:
While there could be a need to verify idenity with a picture for security checks that may be part of their evaluation process, to me it borders on violations of anti-discrimiation laws to include a picture with a resume.
If you need a picture, consider it has to be as professional as you do your resume. Dress in the style expected at work for the job you would take.
N229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1850 posts, RR: 35 Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3312 times:
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19708 posts, RR: 56 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3309 times:
Quoting N229NW (Reply 8): Personally, I think a balaclava is a solid, professional choice, assuming the job you are applying for involves robbing banks.
Or, in this case, customers.
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
DXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3301 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 3): Though I do have to ask...what sort of pilot job wants a photo?
Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 4): It's for a plane salesman position thingymajiggy
That still doesn't explain it as someone who is homely could have a legal case for discrimination, especially if they could show they were a good salesperson. Very strange.
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5): The question is, why would any employer want a picture of you. What for?!
In very limited cases it makes sense, modeling, Television, Film.
FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3287 times:
I don't see how the request is discriminatory. Part of the requirements says they're looking for somebody with "Great Personality, appearance and a people person is a must"
Too bad I look like a 12 year old without my 5 o'clock shadow
DXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3283 times:
Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 11): "Great Personality, appearance and a people person is a must"
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but unfortunately where the law is concerned the employer can't really factor that in. Anyone of a number of minorities could claim discrimination based on their "appearance" even though they are conforming to the norms of their particular society.
Fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7024 posts, RR: 93 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3281 times:
Wear a big red clown tie with yellow poka-dots.
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5): why would any employer want a picture of you.
I think he just wanted everyone to know, again, that he's got a C rating and looking for work. I'm pretty sure you don't need a photo to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog sh*t out of Hong Kong.
FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3267 times:
Well I just suited up for my photo session. I look horrid in all of them. O well. I just can't make a natural looking smile. Eh screw it. I'm sending the least crappy one. Wish me luck.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19708 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3262 times:
Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 11): I don't see how the request is discriminatory. Part of the requirements says they're looking for somebody with "Great Personality, appearance and a people person is a must"
I'm not sure it's legally discriminatory, but I have to admit that the idea of including appearance in the hiring criteria (with the limited exceptions mentioned above like for actors, etc.) kind of rubs me the wrong way.
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3256 times:
Quoting Fxramper (Reply 13): Wear a big red clown tie with yellow poka-dots.
I dare you to wear that for your passport photo, FXRamper!
Quoting DXing (Reply 10): In very limited cases it makes sense, modeling, Television, Film.
Well, yeah... but in aviation??
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