Sebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3667 posts, RR: 5 Posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 795 times:
I wanted to have a look on google about the expression "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys" as it is widely used by some members here.
I can't believe it ! I found dozens of Anti-French sites and texts. Most of them are based on history mistakes, but who cares ? It seems common in the states to have this kind of sentiment against France.
I guess the cultural difference is too big (??).
Now I know where KROC and Alpha-1 take their "informations" about France.
NWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 723 times:
so what if its the same terms? I use the same terms in mags that have never read. dont go accusing people of things before you know them to be true slick! I have heard that the french and the brits dont get along, so dont start pointing fingers at the states. I think is fairly common that the french have something against the states. If I was to go to france, people would be nothing but jerks. I know alot of people who wont go back because the way they were treated. Next time maybe before you start posting "USA is evil, and racist", think about for a sec!!
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RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 717 times:
If I was to go to france, people would be nothing but jerks.
I think you're probably right, you would be treated like a jerk.
When I've been to France, the people are nice and interested in talking to you - in English - as long as you are nice to them. They consider it a little rude to walk into a French business and start talking in French. Ironically, Americans are just the same way in the US, so they should try at least to practice abroad what they want practiced at home.
Paris is a lot like New York - you will run into some rude people, this is almost for sure. But, if you make an effort so speak some words in French, they often think your French is so funny they'd just rather talk in English. Also, outside of Paris, just like outside of NYC, you often find a more relaxed and more welcoming mood among the French.
Note to French people: the main reason why Americans pick on France is because you are so defensive about it. If you would just blow it off, the jibes would end. As for now: let the wars continue.
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 706 times:
Look, I fully agree that France has had some questionable issues with bathing, female underarm hair, and ability to stand up to the Germans. This deserves some harassmeht.
But, if you sat down at a place in Paris where a lot of Americans stop in - you would see how stupid and arrogant they look. Especially middle age and older Americans. It is really not that suprising that some French have a dim view of American behavior.
If the French acted in the USA like Americans acted in France, they would never be served or be able to function.
Sebolino, you're discovered! You do nothing butmake up stories to back up your extremely weak arguments. I have never, and I repeat NEVER been to the website in question, nor have I visited any website based on hate. You are the one who is not original. You are the one who is scraping up anything off of your chin you can, to try and throw back. Anything I said, I backed up with validity. Also, I never said I "Hate" the French, because "Hate" is a strong word. Then again, you are not reading everything, only what you want to, then you add your own special Sebolino twist on it. You're played, you don't fool anyone. All you do is sling negativity without rhyme or reason. That might work for you, but it doesn't work for me, or any of the other users who can actually debate a topic. Chumpstains like you, do nothing but bring an abrupt end to any rational debate going on. You refuse to actually listen to the points being made, and thats pathetic. Live in your own hate, because it obviously consumes you.
NWA: Just todayt at work, somebody was talking about rude people in relation to Asians that always go to Niagra Falls. Thats because what we call rude is normal in their countries. I spent over a year in Korea, so I can say that with certainty. Then someone said "if you want to see Rude people, go to France". I have always heard things like thats as well, BUT unlike Sebolino, I refuse to base my opinions soley on hersay. Some of the freindliest people I have ever met have been in New York City, and South Central Los Angeles. Strange huh? Rude people are everywhere, can't do anything about that.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 664 times:
Klaus.....tremendous contrabution to the thread.
Thing is, my security in what I believe allows me to debate said topic, and back up my opinions with facts and validity. The fact Sebolino has to resort to bashing, and posting utter nonsense that he has formulated in his mind to try and make those that think differently look bad is where the "insecurity" lies.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 660 times:
I've never been to one of those sites, Sebolino, and I must say you are just hysterical over the fact that people don't like France! And you complain when we stand up to you diatribes against the United States? Remember the old saying-if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
If you don't understand that Sebolino, it means that if you can't take the criticisms of your country, don't go critisizing someone elses.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20848 posts, RR: 55 Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 642 times:
KROC: Klaus.....tremendous contrabution to the thread.
How do you make a meaningful contribution to a thread that´s basically just about people slinging idiotic and irreal stereotypes at each other?
"France" isn´t what KROC and a few others keep on repeating ad nauseam.
And "the USA" isn´t just as bad (and as uniform) as Sebolino and a few others are alledging whenever their own feelings get hurt.
KROC: Thing is, my security in what I believe allows me to debate said topic, and back up my opinions with facts and validity.
"Facts"? You mean like your boring standard:
KROC: France: we surrender!
If it ever was funny (which I don´t think it ever was), your stereotypical repetition of this kind of slander doesn´t make you look good. And of course, you´ll always find someone who´ll go through the roof on it. Like yourself, when when the courtesy is returned.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 630 times:
Klaus, if you don't like it, why the hell do you even reply? Who's the bigger fool-the fool, or the fool who follows him. In other words, is it you or Sebolino who's the bigger fool here for responding so sharply?
Takkyu_Ishino From France, joined Oct 2001, 97 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 623 times:
KROC, if you're so tough, come over to Sarcelles or mantes-la-jolie with all of your toughest american friends and try to fight with french people from there and we'll see who will surrender.
we know you american think you're tough cause you use guns, ( Beside the guns you ain't got nothing ). guns are for chickens not for real men.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 619 times:
Takkyu, stop the BS, man, and stop taking all it so damned personally, will you. Americans get bashed here on the time-it's standard fare, but God help us if we make fun of France. A capital crime it is!
Ok, Americans-how about we send these 5 Americans over to fight the 5 toughest Froggies we can find;
-Shaquille O'Neil, 7 ft 3, 360 lbs
-Jonathan Ogdon, OL Baltimore Ravens, 6 ft 7, 370lbs
-Jose Canseco, 6 ft 4, 275lbs
-Ray Lewis of the Ravens, 6 ft 3, 265lbs
-Mike Tyson, boxer. 6 ft 0, 240lbs and certifiable.
Now, Takkyu, you think you can beat up those hombres? LOL. Good luck.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 609 times:
Sure, Takkyu, I highly doubt ANYONE in France could beat up the fivesome I posted-they're all big, strong and athletic, and have an attitude that would probably curl the hair under a French girl's amrs. But thanks for the laugh.