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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1083 times:

I wanted to have a look on google about the expression "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys" as it is widely used by some members here.

 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!

I can't believe it ! I found dozens of Anti-French sites and texts. Most of them are based on history mistakes, but who cares ? It seems common in the states to have this kind of sentiment against France.

I guess the cultural difference is too big (??).

Now I know where KROC and Alpha-1 take their "informations" about France.

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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

I can't believe you've put this up after what happened the last time! Are you some kind of masochist?


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineEal401 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

"Can we have a Sebolino sized asbestos jacket over here please!"

Jeez man, you are a sucker for punishment!!!


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

Sebolino. Sorry, but I have never wasted my time to look up Anti-French web sites...especially ones based on hisorical inaccuracies.

Kinda funny though, because I could say you must get your opinions on the U.S. out of Mad Magazine or something.

It seems common in the states to have this kind of sentiment against France.

Just as common as the anti-American sentiment in your country.

I guess the cultural difference is too big


That must be it.  Insane

It's funny Sebolino, you want to keep dragging this out. You better hope Nik shows up, because he was the only one making a decent attempt at debating the issue on France.


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

KROC, you're discovered. You're a liar !
I found the website that you used as a base to your arguments, exactly in the same terms !
You're not very original.


address:

http://www.houseofhate.com/houseofhate/content/antifrench.html



User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

so what if its the same terms? I use the same terms in mags that have never read. dont go accusing people of things before you know them to be true slick! I have heard that the french and the brits dont get along, so dont start pointing fingers at the states. I think is fairly common that the french have something against the states. If I was to go to france, people would be nothing but jerks. I know alot of people who wont go back because the way they were treated. Next time maybe before you start posting "USA is evil, and racist", think about for a sec!!

ex. HKGspotter



23 victor, turn right heading 210, maintain 3000 till established, cleared ILS runwy 24.
User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1005 times:

If I was to go to france, people would be nothing but jerks.

I think you're probably right, you would be treated like a jerk.

When I've been to France, the people are nice and interested in talking to you - in English - as long as you are nice to them. They consider it a little rude to walk into a French business and start talking in French. Ironically, Americans are just the same way in the US, so they should try at least to practice abroad what they want practiced at home.

Paris is a lot like New York - you will run into some rude people, this is almost for sure. But, if you make an effort so speak some words in French, they often think your French is so funny they'd just rather talk in English. Also, outside of Paris, just like outside of NYC, you often find a more relaxed and more welcoming mood among the French.

Note to French people: the main reason why Americans pick on France is because you are so defensive about it. If you would just blow it off, the jibes would end. As for now: let the wars continue.

kind regards,

RogueTrader


User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

Funny. I have heard nothing but bad things about france, and the people who I know cant talk french


23 victor, turn right heading 210, maintain 3000 till established, cleared ILS runwy 24.
User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

I meant to say,

"they consider it a little rude to walk into a French business and start talking in English."

RT


User currently offlineRogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 994 times:

NWA,

Look, I fully agree that France has had some questionable issues with bathing, female underarm hair, and ability to stand up to the Germans. This deserves some harassmeht.

But, if you sat down at a place in Paris where a lot of Americans stop in - you would see how stupid and arrogant they look. Especially middle age and older Americans. It is really not that suprising that some French have a dim view of American behavior.

If the French acted in the USA like Americans acted in France, they would never be served or be able to function.

kind regards,

RogueTrader


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 989 times:

KROC, you're discovered. You're a liar !
I found the website that you used as a base to your arguments, exactly in the same terms !
You're not very original.


address:

http://www.houseofhate.com/houseofhate/content/antifrench.html


Sebolino, you're discovered! You do nothing butmake up stories to back up your extremely weak arguments. I have never, and I repeat NEVER been to the website in question, nor have I visited any website based on hate. You are the one who is not original. You are the one who is scraping up anything off of your chin you can, to try and throw back. Anything I said, I backed up with validity. Also, I never said I "Hate" the French, because "Hate" is a strong word. Then again, you are not reading everything, only what you want to, then you add your own special Sebolino twist on it. You're played, you don't fool anyone. All you do is sling negativity without rhyme or reason. That might work for you, but it doesn't work for me, or any of the other users who can actually debate a topic. Chumpstains like you, do nothing but bring an abrupt end to any rational debate going on. You refuse to actually listen to the points being made, and thats pathetic. Live in your own hate, because it obviously consumes you.

NWA: Just todayt at work, somebody was talking about rude people in relation to Asians that always go to Niagra Falls. Thats because what we call rude is normal in their countries. I spent over a year in Korea, so I can say that with certainty. Then someone said "if you want to see Rude people, go to France". I have always heard things like thats as well, BUT unlike Sebolino, I refuse to base my opinions soley on hersay. Some of the freindliest people I have ever met have been in New York City, and South Central Los Angeles. Strange huh? Rude people are everywhere, can't do anything about that.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21496 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Could you two please stop parading your respective insecurities in front of everybody?

It´s not really all that entertaining, you know...


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 952 times:

Klaus.....tremendous contrabution to the thread.  Yeah sure

Thing is, my security in what I believe allows me to debate said topic, and back up my opinions with facts and validity. The fact Sebolino has to resort to bashing, and posting utter nonsense that he has formulated in his mind to try and make those that think differently look bad is where the "insecurity" lies.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 948 times:

I've never been to one of those sites, Sebolino, and I must say you are just hysterical over the fact that people don't like France! And you complain when we stand up to you diatribes against the United States? Remember the old saying-if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

If you don't understand that Sebolino, it means that if you can't take the criticisms of your country, don't go critisizing someone elses.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 940 times:

Sebolino, after reading all of the stuff on hear, why don't you just give up? I mean, that's what the French are extremely good at, isn't it-giving up?  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21496 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 930 times:

KROC: Klaus.....tremendous contrabution to the thread.

How do you make a meaningful contribution to a thread that´s basically just about people slinging idiotic and irreal stereotypes at each other?

"France" isn´t what KROC and a few others keep on repeating ad nauseam.

And "the USA" isn´t just as bad (and as uniform) as Sebolino and a few others are alledging whenever their own feelings get hurt.


KROC: Thing is, my security in what I believe allows me to debate said topic, and back up my opinions with facts and validity.

"Facts"? You mean like your boring standard:

KROC: France: we surrender!

If it ever was funny (which I don´t think it ever was), your stereotypical repetition of this kind of slander doesn´t make you look good. And of course, you´ll always find someone who´ll go through the roof on it. Like yourself, when when the courtesy is returned.

What a bunch of first-graders!


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 923 times:

Klaus, your boring and have no sense of humor...hence your not finding "We surrender, signed France" funny.

Although you did make a good point about France this...USA that, but the USA catches much flack on here, and when some of it get's dished back, then you decide to chime in? Please.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 918 times:

Klaus, if you don't like it, why the hell do you even reply? Who's the bigger fool-the fool, or the fool who follows him. In other words, is it you or Sebolino who's the bigger fool here for responding so sharply?

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21496 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 915 times:

KROC: Klaus, your boring and have no sense of humor...hence your not finding "We surrender, signed France" funny.

I´ve got no problem with other people finding me boring. It´s just that I don´t need to insult entire nations for being boring.

KROC: Although you did make a good point about France this...USA that, but the USA catches much flack on here, and when some of it get's dished back, then you decide to chime in? Please.

Just to clarify a point: "humour" is when you´re able to laugh about yourself. When you´re ridiculing others, it´s immature at best, chauvinist at worst.


User currently offlineTakkyu_Ishino From France, joined Oct 2001, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 911 times:

KROC, if you're so tough, come over to Sarcelles or mantes-la-jolie with all of your toughest american friends and try to fight with french people from there and we'll see who will surrender.
we know you american think you're tough cause you use guns, ( Beside the guns you ain't got nothing ). guns are for chickens not for real men.

americain de mes couilles.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 907 times:

Takkyu, stop the BS, man, and stop taking all it so damned personally, will you. Americans get bashed here on the time-it's standard fare, but God help us if we make fun of France. A capital crime it is!

Ok, Americans-how about we send these 5 Americans over to fight the 5 toughest Froggies we can find;

-Shaquille O'Neil, 7 ft 3, 360 lbs
-Jonathan Ogdon, OL Baltimore Ravens, 6 ft 7, 370lbs
-Jose Canseco, 6 ft 4, 275lbs
-Ray Lewis of the Ravens, 6 ft 3, 265lbs
-Mike Tyson, boxer. 6 ft 0, 240lbs and certifiable.

Now, Takkyu, you think you can beat up those hombres? LOL. Good luck.



User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21496 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 903 times:

Alpha 1: Americans get bashed here on the time-it's standard fare, but God help us if we make fun of France. A capital crime it is!

I don´t see anybody around here making "fun" of the USA on that level of slander. (Well, maybe except Bin Laden on Letterman´s Late Show: "... Oh, and death to America!")

The more one knows about how people suffered and died in WWII the stronger the revulsion at your and KROC´s insults.


User currently offlineTakkyu_Ishino From France, joined Oct 2001, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 902 times:

definetly, i've been to the US and i can tell you that some french ( especially the arabs ) we got here beat the crap out of anyone. ( In paris some places are way more dangerous than Newyork )

french people are not what you see on T.V ( gay )

P.S: I didn't mean to start this but it's that KROC who's been all over how we surrender and other baseless comments.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 897 times:

Sure, Takkyu, I highly doubt ANYONE in France could beat up the fivesome I posted-they're all big, strong and athletic, and have an attitude that would probably curl the hair under a French girl's amrs. But thanks for the laugh.

User currently offlineTakkyu_Ishino From France, joined Oct 2001, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 897 times:

pfff man you're pathetic. it's the few arrogant people like you who make the world hate your country.

25 Alpha 1 : ROTFL, now you hate my country because I can find 5, probably 50 guys, that could beat the toughest guys in France? You'd hate America either way, pal
26 Post contains images KROC : Takku Ishino: Yeah, well my mom can beat up your mom. Let me say this. I don't own a gun. I, if needed will fight with my manos de pietros. Thing is,
27 Yazoo : Alpha 1 man, you sure are immature for someone who is over 36 like you. arguing with someone who is not even 20 ! and what is it with bringing all tho
28 Alpha 1 : KROC, wouldn't you love to see Takkayu's face when my fivesome walked up to any fivesome he could muster? It'd be a Priceless Kodak Moment!!
29 Klaus : If you ever uttered anything else about France than just the same old prejudice all over it would be a lot more believable to be meant as a "joke", ho
30 Radarbeam : Here's a personal opinion, you may agree or disagree, i don't care I was born and raised in the northern part of France up to the summer of 96 when I
31 KROC : Hey Klaus, let me expand my horizons. I see your in Germany. Let me assume you are German. Hell, it's basically your fault this arguement is taking pl
32 Mcringring : I'd like to add Chad Thomas to KROC's list. He's the crackerist mofo this side of Grand Rapids. Gonna smack the duece-duece upside your beret-wearing
33 Alpha 1 : Alpha 1 man, you sure are immature for someone who is over 36 like you. arguing with someone who is not even 20 ! Gee, is there some rule on here, Yaz
34 Cyril B : I think this kind of debate have no reasons to be anymore. France is a great country, and there's only a few american extremists to tell the contrary.
35 Takkyu_Ishino : the few stupid american like Alpha and KROC just make the whole america looks bad. despite the majority of american are friendly and nice people. like
36 Nik : "You better hope Nik shows up..." I'm not going to take part in this thread. The discussion yesterday was not appreciated by our moderators... I don't
37 LH423 : This post has been recommended for removal. Goodbye! LH423
38 Mcringring : Takkyu_Ishino: you ain't doing your country any favors. But or course rather than rationalizing, you call people names. The mark of a genius!
39 Takkyu_Ishino : Thank you LH423, that's the only solution that i see to this nonsense comments.
40 Bambicruz : I Don`t have anything against the french people, in the contrary, I think they are very nice people. I understand that the vichy government were coawr
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