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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2391 times:
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So I take my 2007 Jetta to the dealer because one of the tail lights is burnt. I know oil change is coming up and the scheduled 20K Miles service is coming in about 1,500miles - so i inform the gentleman to go ahead and perform these services.

So i drop it off this morning. Turns out that the 20k mile mark is the "intermediate service" which cost about $500.

One part of the engineer in me thinks that all the fluid “flushes” and "checks" they do are useless – but the other engineering part of me understands that things do break down, and things need to be maintained properly.

Luckily its not breaking the bank - but i was still quite shocked.

I think you have to do it anyways to keep the warranty alive – at least that’s what I am trying to comfort myself.

On the good side - they will replace the light bulb for free.

Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?


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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2381 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

About the only item I looked up in the owner's manual on my vehicle is the oil change interval, which is 5000 miles in my case. Everything else I inspect, change, replace based on my own observations.


User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2373 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
So I take my 2007 Jetta to the dealer because one of the tail lights is burnt. I know oil change is coming up and the scheduled 20K Miles service is coming in about 1,500miles - so i inform the gentleman to go ahead and perform these services.

It's mostly a racket. They overprice the hell out of basic services, and I've seen VW and other carmarker's actual cost vs price list so I can tell you that for sure. Even Toyota has started the same deal, I remember them charging $80 for a basic oil change. They just packaged it as a "service." For a Lexus it was well over $100 a few years ago.

At 20K miles you really shouldn't need much. Maybe coolant flush? Most cars these days have "Long Life" fluids, so you shouldn't have to change them so early. (The flip side is that the automaker pitches them as "Lifetime" fluids, and then the customer wonders why they suffer severe mechanical breakdowns at 100K miles)

You should have seen my face when they told me a basic oil change on my Mercedes is $300. The sad thing is that this car has 6,000 miles on it and apparently needs "inspections." The key is to find a trusted mechanic that will do the work for you. I got my oil change done for $120 at a well known independent mechanic for a full synthetic oil change.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8640 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Maintaining a new car is generally cheap. A Jetta needs oil changes and maybe a spark plug change at some point. Inspections and so-on should be based on your level of concern. To me it is not worth some $500 to get inspections for items I could do myself, or am not worried about. Alternatively, since it is under warranty you could simply ask them to check your items of concern for no cost, since that is their obligation under the terms of warranty. Checking brake fluid levels, etc is generally a joke, in temrs of easy / not necessary with a new car.

Most of the time, these "maintenance programs" are inflated in cost by about 300% so dealers can make several thousand dollars per car without actually repairing anything except perhaps an air filter every 40,000 miles and some spark plugs every 60,000, which total about twenty minutes of work. If you are actually interested in maintenance, the factory program may neglect certain areas such as transmission fluid. Overall I would relax and change the fluids, the spark plugs and not worry about the rest. Save your money for later on, when things break and the warranty does not help you.


User currently onlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2350 times:
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Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 2):
I got my oil change done for $120 at a well known independent mechanic for a full synthetic oil change.

Wow! My oil changes (with full synthetic) cost me $34.27 here in New York. Regardless of the car! Even what you paid seems bonkers to me...


As for servicing, my dad and I tend to take care of our cars like they are little babies. We may not drive them like they are, but when it comes to knowing when something is wrong, we're like hawks. We have a 1992 Mazda MPV van with 180,000 miles on it that runs like the day we bought it (has had new belts and stuff installed, but nothing major at all), and a 1999 Honda Accord V6 with 165,000 miles on it that just recently got new shocks and struts installed, and that was the most expensive repair it has had done to it ($400 dollars). My car is a 2000 Ford Focus ZX3 with 56,000 miles on it, and this is the car that has had the "most" problems (most being a relative term in my family's case) mainly because it is an American car. I have had to replace brakes and tires, obviously, the front shocks, springs, and struts ($580), the timing belt ($300), the starter switch ($110), the windshield/body join panel ($75, to avoid leaks into the passenger compartment during rain), and that's IT. All the electronics work just fine, and I've never had to replace a bulb or anything. Recently it has started making a burning smell when I come off the highway or drive really hard, so I need to get that looked at...

Basically, if you know what you are doing even a little bit and take care of your car, and know a good mechanic for when things DO go wrong, there's no reason to pay for all those service fees. My dad did the first scheduled service on the Honda and decided it wasn't worth it. Hasn't done one since. Just treat your car as if it's a complex machine (which it IS) and read up a bit on how to recognize problems before they become major and there's no reason to spend thousands of dollars over your car's lifetime.

Sorry for the long post. Just my two cents (maybe more after inflation since it took me so long to write...)

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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2348 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 4):
Wow! My oil changes (with full synthetic) cost me $34.27 here in New York. Regardless of the car! Even what you paid seems bonkers to me...

Wow that is cheap!!!! Even a Mobil 1 Oil Change at the local gas station is nearly $60. The sad thing is that people who take their cars to the Benz dealer pay $300 as if it is the most normal thing in the world. All for a glorified oil change.

Before I turned in my last E class it needed a "C" Service, meaning it was close to 20K miles. they wanted $650 to change the brake fluid, oil, and perhaps the air filter. And it isn't limited to the German cars, as my Lexus was horrendous. I never left the dealer with a bill less than a few hundred dollars. Towards the end when it got to around 100K miles, I was seeing $700+ bills every six months.

I am glad I found a good independent mechanic for my current car because this was starting to get insane. That said, I admit these luxury cars are probably the worst financial investment you can ever make.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2342 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

I do and so far it's worked. But I share your feelings, specially now that my car is a 2004 make and some issues not covered (and certainly not detected) by the maintenance program, like a dead battery, 'position' sensor and other electric parts have arisen in the last couple of months. I'm expecting the clutch and dampers to be dead in the short to medium term and those guys in the dealership know nothing about prevention, so I'm considering taking the car with an independent mechanic from now on. Problem will be finding a trustworthy one.

BTW. Is there a way to know if a clutch (manual shift) is past it's lifetime without serious disassembling?


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2335 times:
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Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

Yes, always. If you don't, the resale value goes down. It's the first time they check when buying a used car.



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User currently onlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2304 times:
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Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 5):
Wow that is cheap!!!! Even a Mobil 1 Oil Change at the local gas station is nearly $60.

Wow, I didn't know Mobile was that much! Where I go, you pay the 35 dollars I quoted above, and you even get a free car wash! They do it in about 12 minutes while you wait. Very nice.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 6):

BTW. Is there a way to know if a clutch (manual shift) is past it's lifetime without serious disassembling?

It depends. If you're talking about the clutch, try starting from a stop in the highest gear. If it moves without stalling, the clutch is slipping and needs replacement. This is, of course, if the clutch is in horrible, horrible shape. As for whether gears or synchros are in need of repair, you could try floating gears. If it doesn't work like it should, it could be a bad sign in regards to the synchros, or gear meshing. But don't quote me on any of that. If you really think there is a problem, take the car to a mechanic you trust.

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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2300 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

Yes, always! And of course must the maintenance be done at an Audi dealer (in my case) and not at some backyard garage.

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
Yes, always. If you don't, the resale value goes down. It's the first time they check when buying a used car.

Exactly!

Patrick


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2288 times:
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Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
Yes, always! And of course must the maintenance be done at an Audi dealer (in my case) and not at some backyard garage.

But this is what makes me doubt. I just got a call from the dealer..

" the guys found some sporadic misfiring in the cylinders - not enough to light up the check engine light. We recommend the "fuel service" (for $200) This should had been done at 15k miles but we missed it"

Note that i saw an advertisement on the wall this morning about this "fuel service" and explaining why you should get it. So i don't think its really required - if it was it wouldn't had been "missed" at 15k.

So i told him that he should go "service" himself.

PS. The other tail light bulb as about to blow to. So they will kindly replace it - for $3



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2287 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
So I take my 2007 Jetta to the dealer because one of the tail lights is burnt. I know oil change is coming up and the scheduled 20K Miles service is coming in about 1,500miles - so i inform the gentleman to go ahead and perform these services.

Isnt the first 36k miles free service wise? Last I checked it was.

Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
I think you have to do it anyways to keep the warranty alive – at least that’s what I am trying to comfort myself

Nope. Not with a new, or in my case, pre owned VW. You can do the service yourself. They dont care, atleast my dealer diddnt.

Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

Yes, partly because my father taught me just about everything he knows about cars, and two, my car is a finicky german wench when she is not working properly

That all being said, once my car was out of warranty, I stopped taking it to the dealer. Overpriced and crappy service. The sales manager steered me towards an independent guy about two blocks from the dealer, he is half of what the dealer charges for labor and he uses all VW parts. The guy has been in business since the 70's and all he services is VW and Audi, the guy is awesome. I recommend you do the same and find a good local mechanic who knows VW. You do NOT have to go to the dealer to keep your warranty. The only time you need to take it there is for warranty work, but for basic stuff, save alot of money and find a local shop.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 2):
Maybe coolant flush? Most cars these days have "Long Life" fluids, so you shouldn't have to change them so early.

VW G-12 coolant, last time I looked was rated to atleast 100k before it needed changing.



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Mt99,

Wow! I'm glad I didn't buy a Volkswagen. I've taken my Acura to the dealer for every service, and I've never paid more than $70 for an oil change--and that includes tire rotation/balance, a "courtesy inspection" and a car wash.

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 10):

" the guys found some sporadic misfiring in the cylinders - not enough to light up the check engine light. We recommend the "fuel service" (for $200) This should had been done at 15k miles but we missed it"

Wonder how you "find" sporadic misfiring unless you're chugging and lurching down the highway, lol. A $3 bottle of fuel injector cleaner ought to do you nicely.

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 10):
So i told him that he should go "service" himself.

 checkmark  Good move.

Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):

So i drop it off this morning. Turns out that the 20k mile mark is the "intermediate service" which cost about $500.

One part of the engineer in me thinks that all the fluid “flushes” and "checks" they do are useless – but the other engineering part of me understands that things do break down, and things need to be maintained properly.

I just had my fluids changed (again at the Acura dealer) and it cost me $275--plus they gave me a loaner car for the day. Wow. And yeah, the engineer in me would agree with you that it's probably not all that necessary, but in most circumstances can't hurt. Except I wouldn't have just anyone change especially my transmission fluid--I have that changed rarely because it can be a Bad Thing if someone doesn't know what they're doing.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2251 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 12):
Wow! I'm glad I didn't buy a Volkswagen

Thats an ignorant comment.

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 10):
" the guys found some sporadic misfiring in the cylinders - not enough to light up the check engine light. We recommend the "fuel service" (for $200) This should had been done at 15k miles but we missed it"

Id have told him where to stick that "fuel service" as well. Again, VW service is a absolute rip off, see my advice in reply 11.



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2244 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 13):
Thats an ignorant comment.

No, it's actually well-researched. I am glad I didn't buy a VW...for more reasons than just the OP's problems. I know your feelings on VW...it wasn't a personal attack, honest  Wink

All the Puebla-built cars I've seen have been absolute junk in terms of reliability. Sure, my Acura may be a soulless Japanese boat, but at least I'm not worried about it falling apart doing 70 down the highway...



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2234 times:
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Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
Do you guys follow maintenance by the book?

Absolutely. My BMW has 100,000km maintenance included so if I miss one it's invalid.



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User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

In Switzerland most premium and semi-premium brands (e.g. BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Volvo, Saab, ....) offer free scheduled maintenance for up to 100'000 km or 10 years (whatever comes first); during the first three years the parts are included as well. Even the first 6 wheel changes (switch from summer to winter wheels and back) are free.

It is a great loyalty tool that has you coming back to the dealer. One additional benefit for the importer is that is curbs parallel imports as only cars distributed through the official dealer network enjoy these privileges.

So, yes my 09 BMW 318i will be serviced for the dealer - with who I am very satisfied - for quite some time to come.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2221 times:
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Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 14):
All the Puebla-built cars I've seen have been absolute junk in terms of reliability.

Mines the best 2000 tons of steel that Puebla ever produced  Smile

Not a single problem - except for the tail light bulb in question - and the overpriced 20k service.. but that's hardly the cars fault... I guess that's the price you pay in taking it to the dealer right smack in the middle of Chicago's Gold Coast.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 12):
I've never paid more than $70 for an oil change--and that includes tire rotation/balance, a "courtesy inspection" and a car wash.

I hadn't either. And that's what i was expecting this AM - Not $500  Sad

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 12):
-plus they gave me a loaner car

I really don't need a car for the day.. they did drive me to work in a very very nice Audi SUV



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User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5499 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

The only thing I do is oil changes at the specified interval. Everything else is on-condition. It served me pretty well with the passed 3 new cars I've had. It will serve me well for this new (2009 Flex) car, though the 7500 mile oil change interval concerns me a little.

1988 Cherokee - 10 years and ~160,000 miles. My brother-in-law drove it for another 50,000 or so until the body rusted out.

1997 Explorer - 12 years and ~145,000 miles. Still being driven by one of my wfe's cousins.

2003 Sebring - still own and at about 75,000 miles. Hasn't missed a tick (knocking on wood like head)

I replace the coolant when the hydrometer indicates I need to. Transmission fluid when the color is 'off'. I know...color is not a good indicator, but, there you have it. Never did the transaxles or differentials on the 4x4's. Batteries when they show even the slightest indication of becoming an issue. Air filters at 10,000 miles.

And no, unless your bill of sale or warranty specifically says it is void unless you have service perforned at the dealer, then you should be good to go. Be prepared to show some records if you make a warranty claim.

Quoting Mt99 (Thread starter):
So I take my 2007 Jetta to the dealer because one of the tail lights is burnt

By the way...why go to the dealer for a bulb?



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2194 times:



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 18):
By the way...why go to the dealer for a bulb?

Go to autozone, spend $2 on one and they'll even put it in for you.



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
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Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 18):

By the way...why go to the dealer for a bulb?

Because i needed an oil change anyways... and i knew that stuff had to be looked at for the 20k miles

I was expecting $150 or so



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2188 times:



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 18):
though the 7500 mile oil change interval concerns me a little.

Why?


User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5499 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

I don't know. I understand full synthetics can easily go this distance, but it just seems a long time. I'll get used to it.


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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

I always maintain my car by the book.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 5):
The sad thing is that people who take their cars to the Benz dealer pay $300 as if it is the most normal thing in the world. All for a glorified oil change.

I'm surprised premium cars like BMWs and Mercedes don't have scheduled maintenance built into the car. I remember several years ago when we were in South Africa, the cost of a new Mercedes included the maintenance. They have just introduced a similar thing here in Oz for the new E-class. The buyer pays an extra $500 or something when they buy the car and that takes care of all the normal maintenance for 5 years or 100,000 kms. Its an awesome deal which means for a normal service (where nothing major needs replacement) you don't pay anything.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 3):
Maintaining a new car is generally cheap.



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 2):
It's mostly a racket. They overprice the hell out of basic services,

It is a racket. When I took my Wrangler for its 50,000 km service a couple of months ago..I was shocked to find out the things the dealer had included in the 'service'...there were some weird hidden costs, like $24 for a 'computer reset' and $12.50 for 'data recovery'..wtf? Cheap idiots trying to make money wherever possible.



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2139 times:



Quoting Fr8Mech (Reply 22):
I understand full synthetics can easily go this distance, but it just seems a long time.

The exchange intervals in the US are for some reason extremely low (at least compared to what manufacturers prescribe in Europe).
My 2001 HDI engine has a 20,000 km (12,500 miles), 30,000 km has become the norm for the cars manufactured nowadays (some go as far as 50,000 km although I would not leave there that long).


25 DocLightning : I bought it pre-done on the Prius because it was pretty cheap (like $2000) and covers 100,000 miles or 10 years, whicever comes first. During that tim
26 Flighty : True, but on the other hand, most factory / dealer "maintenance plans" totally neglect the ATF. Cars with 100,000 miles and their original ATF adhere
27 WildcatYXU : Not only in the US, in Canada too. The most likely reason is that the only condition to keep your warranty is oil change (at least here). No warranty
28 PPVRA : I have a Jetta and change my own oil. I use Mobil, which costs about $20 for one change iirc. My car is out of warranty though. The oil drain (don't k
29 Vikkyvik : Absolutely. Unbelievable. I don't think I've ever had an oil change cost me more than $30-40. The mechanic I use now charges somewhere around $20. He
30 Cadet57 : I do my own oil changes and it costs me $35. 5qt jug of Mobil1 full synthetic and a Bosch OEM oil filter. 20 mins later, and I saved $45 dollars. The
31 Tommy767 : 2004 chevy malibu LT V6 106,500...will bring it in soon for new belts and hoses. Otherwise solid right now but here are some past problems: 2008: Had
32 Mirrodie : Trust your instincts unless your warranty becomes invalid otherwise. Whoa....how can you tell if a bulb "is going" to blow? An incandescent bulb? Any
33 SCCutler : My wife's Jetta (2003, Puebla-built) is tight as a drum, fast and solid, at 61,000 miles. Fine car. --- The OP was being ripped-off, but it was not b
34 Andz : I don't pay for anything, irrespective of the type of service or what needs to be replaced.. Nothing at all. The only thing excluded from the mainten
35 T prop : You must crush people in the wake of your 4 million pound vehicle.
36 HAJFlyer : Same here, and never had any serious issue with my current or past two 3 series BMWs. That depends very much on the equipment level. I would be most
37 Carlisle : Yes, although I must admit I am dreading to see what it's going to cost me for my 15,000 mile maintenance check which is now due. My 10,000 was aroun
38 SCCutler : You should not have to dread most routine maintenance on a car like yours; before you agree to pay for some fluffed-up and costly set of "recommended
39 Fr8Mech : I'm interested: exactly what did you get for your $350? What do you expect to get for your $500? The engines in new cars should be able to go 100,000
40 Mt99 : Thats a lot for 10k! True this was $500 - but before that i had maybe spent $200 total on 3 or 4 oil changes and the required 5K, 10K and 15K mainten
41 CanadianNorth : Was it really a basic oil change? If so I woulda walked out right there. Anyone can do a basic oil change in their driveway by themselves, with a ver
42 Post contains links Cadet57 : If its a VW dealer they are told what to charge. Which is another example of why I will do all my maintenance myself, or if its a larger job, the ind
43 RobertNL070 : Daylight robbery!
44 Post contains images Cadet57 : Funny. I thought the same thing.[Edited 2009-09-17 14:28:22]
45 Tommy767 : One thing I will add about the 2004 malibu is the gas mileage is incredible for a V6: 23 city 30 highway...so it keeps the costs down a bit while driv
46 SCCutler : Read your warranty book (came with the car), see what the manufacturer *requires*; if the dealer insists on doing more, and suggests that the warrant
47 Sv7887 : That sounds pretty expensive. Does this cover brakes and things like that? Given it's a hybrid I'm curious whether it needs less maintenance because
48 Post contains links Cadet57 : The list I provided in post 42 is what HAS to be done at each service interval for my car.( http://www.bentleypublishers.com/ima...h/vw/vw.2003.maint
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