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Carter: Obama Criticism "Based On Racism"  
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

So one more Democrat is telling us that we're racist for not supporting Obama's healthcare plan.

Former President Jimmy Carter drew widespread criticism Wednesday for saying that Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" outburst last week was "based on racism" and that an "overwhelming portion" of similar demonstrations against President Obama are rooted in bigotry.

Obama's supporters have attributed racist motives to some opponents of his health care plan for weeks, but Carter is the highest-profile person so far to push that claim.

While some anti-Obama demonstrators have been seen carrying over-the-top or racially offensive signs, administration critics say Carter is flat wrong to claim that those fringe protesters make up the bulk of Obama's detractors.


But one Black Conservative and One Democratic Congressman disagree. More tidbits from the article:

"I don't see race as an issue. It's all about the policies that are coming out of the current administration," said Deneen Borelli, a black conservative who spoke at the protest rally held in Washington Saturday. Much of the condemnation of Obama's critics has come as a response to that protest, where tens of thousands demonstrated against big government and over-spending.

"I just see this as the race card being used once again to distract the American people from the core issues," Borelli said.

.......

Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said she, too, didn't think Wilson's outburst was race-related.

"I think there's a lot of opposition, visceral opposition to his policies, but the reality is that this president won, he won with an overwhelming majority of support across the board from the American people and not not just from African-Americans, and it is time for us to move on and get down to the business of making the kind of change that the president outlined when he won the election last year," she said.


Full Article

(I can't wait till the usual suspects get on here and somehow immediately discredit the quotes by Carter because the link is to Fox News).

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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

Looks like Carter's idiocy has been outdone by a fellow Peach-eater, Hank Johnson (D-GA):

Congressman Suggests People Will Don 'White Hoods' If Wilson Not Rebuked

Didn't Obama (or his staff) come out and said the whole Wilson outburst was not based on racism?




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User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):

More like Faux news!

But really just because people dont agree with him they assume that right wings are being racist. Its the same thing with Soto Myor were everyone assumed "Ooh she is Hispanic and person XYZ doesn't agree with her it makes them a racist."

It will happen all the time down the line of integrated politics when there is nothing else the left wing can attack they always have a fall back

[Edited 2009-09-16 14:44:35]


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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2491 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):

So one more Democrat is telling us that we're racist for not supporting Obama's healthcare plan

Take off the blinders. Where are you getting this from? This has nothing to do with support for Obama's health scheme, but rather the way he is being treated. That is what Carter said.

Nothing more. The other people interviewed by Faux made those comments, and they are, for the most part hardly an un biased group.

interesting to compare your source with CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/15/carter.obama/index.html


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8780 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

I am glad to see that Obama is not following that path this time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090916/pl_nm/us_usa_carter_racism_1

But you still have people trying desperately to shut up the opposition using the race card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UJaeLjCvH4&feature=player_embedded

“I guess we’ll have folks putting on white hoods and robes again and riding through the countryside intimidating people.” — Congressman Hank Johnson (D-GA)

Those are the words of the congressman who replaced the nutjob Cynthia McKinney, famous for slapping a Capitol Hill policeman who didn’t recognize her and asked for her I.D. Apparently, she’s not the only racebaiting fool in Georgia’s 4th Congressional District.

Besides, the only member of the U.S. Congress who DID wear the white hood is U.S. Senator Robert Byrd… a democrat!

The past few months Democrats have called those of us who dissent from their plans for a socialist makeover of America every name in the book. Then they have the nerve to suggest that the bad feelings that result are all our fault.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offline7324ever From Serbia, joined May 2009, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
interesting to compare your source with CNN.

Simple enough logic

CNN= Liberal
Fox= Conservative.

They do the same polls everyday and the numbers on both sides always come out different.

 

[Edited 2009-09-16 13:59:09]


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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8780 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2458 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
Take off the blinders. Where are you getting this from? This has nothing to do with support for Obama's health scheme, but rather the way he is being treated. That is what Carter said.

Bull. Carter said, from your own link "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"

"Overwhelming majority" means "nearly everyone". He is saying that virtually all of the opposition is based of having a black president, and therefore nothing to do with his policies.

I never cared for Carter. I thought he was a useless president with flashes of good work after his presidency. "He meant well", is how I would sum up his presidential life and post-office career.

But this statement is vile crap. I don't know if you can chalk it up to him becoming a bitter, senile old man but now I have as much respect for him as I do for Louis Farakan.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2438 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
Bull. Carter said, from your own link "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"

Correct, and what does that have to do with the OP's opening line: So one more Democrat is telling us that we're racist for not supporting Obama's healthcare plan.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
don't know if you can chalk it up to him becoming a bitter, senile old man but now I have as much respect for him as I do for Louis Farakan

Sounds more like Reagan to me.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2434 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
interesting to compare your source with CNN.

Yes, especially when CNN leaves out the statement from Rep. Donna Edwards (D-MD). "Interesting" indeed. I would hardly consider quoting a Democratic Congresswoman from the Black Caucus taking this stance a "Biased Source".

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
Bull. Carter said, from your own link "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"

"Overwhelming majority" means "nearly everyone". He is saying that virtually all of the opposition is based of having a black president, and therefore nothing to do with his policies.

Yet we're the ones with the blinders.  rotfl 


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39660 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2429 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
Bull. Carter said, from your own link "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American,"

"Overwhelming majority" means "nearly everyone". He is saying that virtually all of the opposition is based of having a black president, and therefore nothing to do with his policies.

You trying to tell us that no one is upset about the fact that we have a Black President?

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
now I have as much respect for him as I do for Louis Farakan.

Surprised to hear you say that. I thought you'd love Louis Farakan. He is very conservative, very religious, opposes public education and his ideology is very much in line with yours.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2428 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 7):
Correct, and what does that have to do with the OP's opening line: So one more Democrat is telling us that we're racist for not supporting Obama's healthcare plan.

Because if you've been paying attention and take off those blinders that you're supposedly accusing us of wearing, you'd know many of these protests that are being labeled as "racist" are centered around protesting Obama-Care, particularly the town hall meetings, those meetings where Nancy Pelosi compared those who showed up to Nazis.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2428 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 8):
we're the ones with the blinders.

That would be correct. Carter said the way Obama is being treated is racist. Is that soooooo hard for you folks to grasp? I wish you righties would stop being so paranoid.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2425 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
You trying to tell us that no one is upset about the fact that we have a Black President?

'Fly are you trying to tell us that MOST people are? I don't think too many people have denied that are a few loonies who are upset at the fact that we have a black president, but many on the left (as usual) want to lump all of us in with them.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2424 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 11):
That would be correct. Carter said the way Obama is being treated is racist. Is that soooooo hard for you folks to grasp? I wish you righties would stop being so paranoid.

Pelosi and other Democrats call the President a liar. Not racist.

Joe Wilson calls the President a liar. Racist.

Would someone explain that to me?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

More proof that the left is falling apart. They thought as soon as Obama was inagurated everything would be great and they can't believe his approval rating is in the toilet and even their own won't vote for his stupidity in congress. I guess the Dems that oppose his health care bill are racist too Jimmy? This guy should keep his mouth shut. Every time he opens it he just makes things worse.

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2419 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 13):
Pelosi and other Democrats call the President a liar. Not racist.

When did Pelosi call Obama a liar?


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2418 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 15):
Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 13):
Pelosi and other Democrats call the President a liar. Not racist.

When did Pelosi call Obama a liar?

Nice way to avoid the point.  sarcastic  Pelosi and numerous other Democrats called Bush a liar numerous times. So I want to know why when a Congressman now calls the President a liar, it's racist.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2404 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 16):
Nice way to avoid the point.

Wasn't avoiding, just wanted to know what you were talking about.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 16):
Pelosi and numerous other Democrats called Bush a liar numerous times

Considering that they are all WHITE it is pretty hard to call them racists, isn't it. I think you should try again.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39660 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2403 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 12):
'Fly are you trying to tell us that MOST people are?

How about simply answering my question? I asked a simple question. I don't know why you are asking me that question in the first place.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 12):
I don't think too many people have denied that are a few loonies who are upset at the fact that we have a black president

I'd like to get Dreadnought's opinion on this.



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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3527 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Why shouldn't Jimmy Carter reach this conclusion. Many visitors to the US, would reach the opinion that despite claims to the contrary, racism is alive and thriving. It may be outlawed, but as an example just look in a typical restaurant, the servers are overwhelmingly white, and the people who come round after the diners have departed and clear the tables overwhelmingly are not.

As to all the suggestions that Obama is leading the US down the path of socialism, is he suggesting that you pool your wealth, is he announcing that he will "tax the rich until they squeal", is he nationalising industries, of course he isn't.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 17):

Considering that they are all WHITE it is pretty hard to call them racists, isn't it. I think you should try again.

All Democrats are white? Even the black ones?          Man and after seeing numerous lefties claim on here even that the Republicans are the party of only white people. Perhaps you should try again.   

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
How about simply answering my question?

It was already given "Fly. You even quoted it right below this question.

[Edited 2009-09-16 14:31:20]

User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2376 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
This guy should keep his mouth shut. Every time he opens it he just makes things worse.

No he shouldn't, we love it when he talks...and writes books!

Sincerely,
the Palestinians



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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5651 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2368 times:



Quoting Homer71 (Reply 21):
No he shouldn't, we love it when he talks...and writes books!

Sincerely,
the Palestinians

Stockholm Syndrome is a b*tch...


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2361 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 20):
All Democrats are white? Even the black ones?

The "all' was refereing to the people you mentioned. Loose the little ROFL cause it just makes your cause look worse.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 20):
Perhaps you should try again.

Not really, your initial thesis is flawed. Read the article again.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8780 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2363 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
You trying to tell us that no one is upset about the fact that we have a Black President?

I suppose there might be a few. 1% maybe? I have no idea because I have never talked to anyone that has a problem with his race.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Surprised to hear you say that. I thought you'd love Louis Farakan. He is very conservative, very religious, opposes public education and his ideology is very much in line with yours.

Shows how much you understand what we stand for. I hope you are being facetious.



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25 NIKV69 : Larry give it a rest. The majority of the country not to mention some Dems don't want this health care bill and they are not racist so why are you as
26 FlyDeltaJets87 : I just said "Pelosi and other Democrats", as the text in Reply 13 will show, never specifying who "other Democrats" referred to, and you proceeded to
27 Dtwclipper : So, you still have made no point at all. Try again. If you can't see the difference that is your issue. ]
28 Superfly : What "we" are you talking about? ...and no I am not being facetious. You'd be amazed at how much you would agree with him since you claim to be a con
29 FlyDeltaJets87 : My main point has already been made in this thread. You just refuse to see it, I guess going on the logic "If I pretend not to see it, maybe it won't
30 Dtwclipper : No, you said: And that is not repeat NOT what Carter said. Which has nothing to do with your opening statment.
31 Max550 : As am I. I don't agree with what Carter said about Wilson. I do think the right has less respect for the position of President than they have in the
32 L410Turbolet : I think Carter is just getting senile and should be cut enough slack because of that. BTW, I don't recall anyone screaming "racism" when Collin Powell
33 Post contains links and images MaverickM11 : So if I think Carter is a totally useless irrelevant person, does that make me ageist? Or Anti white? Or anti Georgian? Maureen Dowd said the same thi
34 Us330 : This is in the wake of Maureen Dowd's infamous column that ran in the Times on Sunday, extrapolating from the fact that Wilson is a member of the sons
35 FlyDeltaJets87 : Seeing as how Wilson's statement was directed at Obama's speech about Obamacare, it has everything to do with the opening statement, and Carter's sta
36 MaverickM11 : She wrote, and I quote "Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!” at a president who didn’t. But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air:
37 FlyDeltaJets87 : Larry, which party do you side more with? Are you a registered Democrat or do you at least vote Democratic far more often than Republican?
38 Superfly : Not sure why you are asking or how it would help the discussion but I am a registered Democrat and I usually vote Democrat.
39 FlyDeltaJets87 : Well to use your logic, so is Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd. Since you and he are both Democrats, I bet you find you and him have a lot in common. Now, you
40 Yellowstone : And "intensely demonstrated animosity" means the hatred being displayed towards Obama that goes far beyond usual responses to policy disagreements. H
41 Superfly : I am just asking a simple question. He should be man enough to at least do that. No need for you to be so defensive and protective of him. Dreadnough
42 Dtwclipper : I know that you are trying really hard to be logical, but you are not. You are infering something that Carter may or may not have implied. Come back
43 NIKV69 : He can't. For it is all he has to explain why his savior is failing badly and will most likley go down in flames with this health care bill. He can't
44 FlyDeltaJets87 : Dreadnought wasn't the one to start dishing insults. He said his respect for Carter is now down there with Louis Farakkan and you began trying to lin
45 Superfly : Also, I have no idea what political party Louis Farakkan is affiliated with. Dreadnought dragged Farakkan in to the discussion and tried to lump him
46 Superfly : Insults? I just simply asked a question.
47 Aaron747 : Just for the record, I'm going to be called guilty of ageism here for saying that President Carter has lost just about all touch with his sense of log
48 OA412 : 58% approval rating means that his approval rating is in the toilet? Really? 51% in favor of healthcare reform vs 46% against means that no one wants
49 2707200X : It's funny how Conservatives accuse liberals of race being and people in here accuse Superfly of beings similar to Sen. Byrd as if he was still a clan
50 GQfluffy : Exactly. What Carter said was the because that the Congressman was disrespectful to Obama during a nationally televised event, he was racist. That is
51 FuturePilot16 : You know what, the fact that a lot of people are so mad about President Carter's remarks really says something. When Glenn Beck and numerous americans
52 GQfluffy : Have no idea what Rush or Beck said. I don't listen to 'em. Waste of time. That said...why can't I be upset at Carter? Just because someone said "He's
53 L-188 : I have yet to see a table bussed at McDonalds. The hyprocracy runs think in the democrats, someday they might be drawn to the light but for now they
54 Dtwclipper : Ecactly, though I think I said that in reply #3.
55 FlyDeltaJets87 : Which is exactly why so many conservatives bitched when George Bush appointed Colin Powell and Condi Rice to his cabinet. Oh wait, that's right, cons
56 OA412 : Why? He acted like a complete jackass and admitting such makes no one a racist. Plenty of white people said so and I don't see anyone in an uproar ov
57 GQfluffy : Therein lies the rub. White people...or at least myself...sometimes feel we have to be careful what we say, because it could be taken by black people
58 Max550 : Sounds a lot like the people who try to link the ideology of Obama with that of Hitler. Point out a bunch of little similarities and pretty soon peop
59 Sccutler : I grew up a great admirer of President Carter, his character as a man, his service to the country, and while I did not think his was the best presiden
60 Post contains links Tsaord : Jimmy Carter was did not say the broad opposition was based on race. He made a specific statement saying When you have certain people holding signs sa
61 Tsaord : Exactly. President Carter spoke not about everyone but to only the extreme cases.
62 Superfly : Once again, you need to let Dreadnought speak for himself. Minister Louis Farakkan is very conservative when it comes to issues such as religion, abs
63 OA412 : It's extremely unfortunate that some are making him out to be senile when all he did was state that some (not all) of the opposition to Obama is base
64 LTBEWR : To me, based on some observations of some people around me, there is a significant minority of people for whom their underlying racism is a major fact
65 Dreadnought : Forgive me for having a life... 'Fly, you know that Farakkan shares none of my values. I am not a racist, anti-semite, muslim seperatist, for starter
66 Baroque : Oh boy, you and SF are pushing it uphill with a pointy stick I fear. Looks like a duck quacks like a duck, that used to mean it was a duck, but now a
67 Max550 : I did say he screwed up, maybe you missed that part. I don't even think I'm qualified to comment on Carter though since I was -4 when his Presidency
68 Post contains links NIKV69 : Your a little behind there. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...n/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Also take into account what his rating was 6 mo
69 Us330 : I can understand and agree that some of the people who disagree with Obama are doing so for racial reasons--namely, those few that exist on the extre
70 Captaink : Yeah I was about to post that. Obama is half white. I don't what age old rule says one drop and your black or whatever, from a scientific point of vi
71 Yellowstone : That's a strawman argument - I haven't seen a single public figure take that position.
72 FlyDeltaJets87 : Here's one example how we know the race card always has to come in to play, from right here in Non-Av about 2 and 1/2 years ago: [url=http://www.airli
73 Dreadnought : I would agree with that. But to be "overwhelming", it would have to be a majority. Like I said, I've never heard of an overwhelming minority. So an o
74 MaverickM11 : People did the same thing with Bush--just replace "Kenya" with "Crawford".
75 Aaron747 : Discrimination against people hailing from flyover country! They must have been Texacist!
76 GQfluffy : At FDJ87...I clicked that link. I have no words to say...because I'll be labeled.
77 Max550 : Not necessarily, I already gave you one example of an overwhelming portion, I guess I'll give you some more. In 2000, Firestone recalled tires becaus
78 Dtwclipper : Let's get one thing straight here. You may not like Carter, his politics or even his looks, I'll give you that, but the man is no idiot. He is a bril
79 Aaron747 : You're exactly right. Let's rephrase everything to: President Carter made an idiot of himself by making the comments in question.
80 Dtwclipper : Carter has made some dumbass statements, that is true. However, I thing there is some truth behind what he said.
81 FuturePilot16 : What uproar? Right there, you're playing the race card and you don't even know it. What about the uproar when Obama said a cambridge police office ac
82 Dreadnought : It also means you are prone to exagguration.
83 Yellowstone : Bush lived in Crawford, at the time. Obama has never lived in Kenya. Big difference.
84 MaverickM11 : Oh huge difference . People don't even know where Obama is from, whether it's Hawaii, or Chicago, or Kenya, or Indonesia, and assume he's from any of
85 FlyDeltaJets87 : Gee, another person who can't get their facts straight. Limbaugh quoted the LA Times as calling Barrack Obama the "Magic Negro". In fact, that's even
86 Superfly : Actually that is not true. Not every critic of the president has been labeled a racist.
87 Dreadnought : Are you saying you might have missed 2 or 3? Name 'em.[Edited 2009-09-17 10:22:46]
88 Max550 : What did I exaggerate, the fact that an adjective modifies a noun? I haven't seen too many liberals labeling everyone opposed to Obama as racist. The
89 AGM100 : Well that pretty much sums up the issue. enough said ...
90 Dtwclipper : And I want a pony. You're not going to get anywhere when you make demands. Please don't change the point of your post by trying to turn the tables. F
91 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : Because you can't produce them. Exactly. Thanks for playing.    You want to make a point but don't want to produce the numbers or facts to back it
92 Superfly : Still can't make heads or tails of what FlyDeltaJets87 is trying to get across. My conclusion is that he just wants to let off steam.
93 FuturePilot16 : LOL, do you ever realize when people don't want to be blamed for anything, they 'quote' someone else? I would like evidence to show that he quoted th
94 BMI727 : What Jimmy Carter meant to say was that he was a really bad president and he never got that much criticism. This just in: Barack Obama hates black pe
95 Yellowstone : I think he's under the mistaken impression that, when we call out racism among Obama's opponents, we are calling all of Obama's opponents racist.
96 Post contains links FlyDeltaJets87 : I don't know what that has to do with you not getting the quote right, and wrongly attributing it to Limbaugh. I already gave it to you. The evidence
97 Us330 : I was referring to Maureen Dowd's column.
98 Max550 : That makes two then. Both sides are sick of it, yet they both continue to do it because that's what politics has become. I'd like to see the name cal
99 Superfly : Mistaken impression is very accurate. FlyDeltaJets87 conveniently ignores criticism of President Obama that isn't racist in any way. I've heard lots
100 GQfluffy : What you are continuously ignoring is the fact that he does not assume. He and others like him (sure...fine...include myself) are continuously TOLD b
101 IMissPiedmont : I'm not so sure he is wrong about this. I didn't hear or read the entire statement but nothing in this part says that he claims most people who disag
102 Superfly : Carter never said that. Now if you don't know how to critique President Obama without coming off as a bigot then that is YOUR problem. Obama has plen
103 JBirdAV8r : So what I'm seeing on here is that defenders of Carter's statement call it a "misinterpretation" based on semantics. But how can so many people misint
104 Yellowstone : Precisely. Now, if you went off on some tirade about how cap and trade was a sign of how Obama secretly wanted to destroy America, or that it was the
105 FlyDeltaJets87 : No what it comes down to is "Liberals will be nice to other liberals and conservatives will be nice to other conservatives when they disagree on mino
106 Superfly : Not every critic of Obama is being lumped in with the racist loonies on the right. I never heard of any racist claims against Senators George Voinovi
107 JBirdAV8r : What does being from Tennessee have to do with being a racist?
108 Pyrex : *cough* O.J. Simpson *cough*
109 Superfly : Lot's of Blacks disagreed with that verdict.
110 Post contains links Aaron747 : The PotUS agrees with you. Former President Jimmy Carter raised the point prominently this week when he said the vitriol was racially motivated. Not
111 Pellegrine : Americans cannot have any sort of passionate debate on any subject without race working its way into it. Why is this? Because they have never dealt w
112 Post contains links and images Dreadnought : Do you even know what a neo-conservative is? Essentially it's a liberal with a hawkish foreign policy. Look it up. Throwing around terms that you don
113 Superfly : So what if Pellegrine dropped the "neo"? What would you have to say to the rest of his comments? He described conservatives accurately. Nice try. You
114 Post contains links Dreadnought : Bullcrap. He messed up, and apologized. Twice. If you want to bring up masty behavior, how 'bout these? Harry Reid "accused those protesting Presiden
115 Superfly : Please show me where Pellegrine apologized. Dude, you're on a roll. Please define masty behavior. How about answering my questions before you ask me
116 BMI727 : I think he's referring to Wilson. Politicians do that a lot. Coincidence?
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