Bongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3912 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1277 times:
The UK attorney general has been fined £5k for breaking a law she helped draft.
The government made it an offence to employ an illegal immigrant, whether the employer knows or does not know if they are alllowed to be here.
When this was introduced, employers clearly stated that it was unworkable and wrong to be guilty of an offence for which you had no knowledge.
Is it not ironic that the attorney general should end up on the wrong side of it.
Of course both her and her government pals insist that she has done nothing wrong.
Offloaded From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
The woman is an idiot, but then that seems to be the main requirement to be part of the UK government these days. "I did check but I didn't keep photocopies!"
The timing is especially ironic considering the French closed down the asylum seekers camp in Calais only yesterday. What message exactly are they trying to send: you can't come into the UK, but if you do happen to make it here and disappear, you're pretty much home free?
To no one will we sell, or deny, or delay, right or justice - Magna Carta, 1215
CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2760 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1189 times:
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Quoting Bongodog1964 (Thread starter): When this was introduced, employers clearly stated that it was unworkable and wrong to be guilty of an offence for which you had no knowledge.
Not totally unworkable, but it would cause a lot of headaches for all employer to check that their employees have the appropriate visas/citizenship in order to work in the UK. I do agree, however, that the legislation is very impractical.
They need to amend it so that if the employer did not know that the person they employed was an illegal immigrant, and that a reasonable employer in the same position would likely not have known, then the employer should be let off provided that the employee in question either gains the appropriate visas or is dismissed immediately.
The "reasonable person" test is what needs to be included in the wording of the legislation to allow the courts room to distinguish between the cases of employers rorting the system, and employers who are genuinely unaware that their employee was not a legal UK immigrant.
Perhaps this little incident will persuade the Attorney General to change the law.