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Interesting Piece About Beck's Past History  
User currently offlineAvent From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

As a leader of modern conservatism, it's worth being aware of Beck's history:


http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909220037

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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5963 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3167 times:
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Who cares? Lots of radio personalities do stuff like that. Ever heard of a shock jock? Crap like that gets ratings. Howard Stern is/was filthy and had lots of listeners.

Rush Limbaugh was a radio DJ too and I am sure he said some off color remarks.

So what if the guy is right leaning and said some bad stuff. The lefty Howard Stern can say off color remarks and nobody cares. Is it because Beck is conservative that somehow what he said is worse than if a liberal says it?

Maybe he used to be a liberal and changed his mind later on. That happens a lot. It happened to me.

"Black guy" impersonations were just one sign of the young Beck's racial hang-ups.

Back in the 80s/90s there was a Detroit radio station that had a segment called learn to spell with Darnell? It was "racially" charged. What was the DJ's politics? don't know don't care, it was funny. Just like when a black comedian makes fun of white people. I think that is funny too, because they are right a lot of the time.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15482 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3156 times:



Quoting Avent (Thread starter):

Congratulations, you've found a turd with a TV show. Now do you want the conservatives here to come and repent for ever agreeing with such a rectum on anything?

Quoting Avent (Thread starter):
As a leader of modern conservatism,

Beck and clowns like him are not the leaders of anything. Olbermann, Maddow, Limbaugh, etc. do not lead anyone. They are entertainers who stir the pot to get ratings and appeal to a radical idiotic fan base. Looking like an ass five days a week is just the price they pay to do so.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 1):
The lefty Howard Stern

  

Howard Stern is not a lefty in any way shape or form.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 1):
"Black guy" impersonations were just one sign of the young Beck's racial hang-ups.

So it's just that simple?
Glenn Beck has emerged as a leading mouthpiece for the Republican Party. Shouldn't the Republicans and conservatives distance themselves from a lunatic like this if they want to win elections in the future?

Quoting Avent (Thread starter):

From your link;
This week, Zaitchik is releasing a three-part investigation into Beck's early years as a radio personality and his troubled personal life. In part two, Zaitchik retells how Beck comported himself while trying to put his stamp on the radio business. These vignettes from his brief tenure in Louisville, Kentucky, are telling:

He used to do a funny 'black guy' character, really over-the-top."

"Black guy" impersonations were just one sign of the young Beck's racial hang-ups.



For two years, he used "the big blonde" as fodder for drive-time fat jokes, often employing Godzilla sound effects to simulate Curtis walking across the city or crushing a rocking chair. Days before Curtis' marriage, Beck penned a skit featuring a stolen menu card for the wedding reception. "The caterer says that instead of throwing rice after the ceremony, they are going to throw hot, buttered popcorn," explains Beck's fictional spy.




"He continued with the fat jokes, which were exceedingly cruel, pointless, and aimed at one of the nicest people in radio. Glenn Beck was over-the-top childish from Day One, a punk who tried to make a name for himself by being disruptive and vengeful."



Glenn Beck sounds like a real loser. Why would anyone with a brain bother to listen to him?

[Edited 2009-09-23 12:28:16]


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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15482 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3133 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Why would anyone with a brain bother to listen to him?

Because he panders to the lunatic fringe...just like all of the other pundits, conservative and liberal.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Glenn Beck has emerged as a leading mouthpiece for the Republican Party.

He isn't the mouthpiece of anything for the sane. He is just the loudest one.



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User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

What news channels want for Christmas;

Fox News - Ratings
MSNBC - Ratings
CNN - Ratings
HLN - Ratings (If they keep Robin Meade they'll keep getting mine)
Local News - Ratings

How do you get ratings?

Put people like Glen Beck and Keith Olberman in front of a camera and balance it out with people like Greta Von Sustern and Rachel Maddow.



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User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15482 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3116 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 5):
Greta Von Sustern and Rachel Maddow.

They are just the same thing, people who try to get ratings by saying strange things. Just because they aren't as loud doesn't meant that their thoughts are any more legitimate or their motives are any different.



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Glenn Beck has emerged as a leading mouthpiece for the Republican Party.

In the same way that Keith Olbermann is a leading mouthpiece for the Democratic Party?

(edit because i mixed up my (d)'s and (r)'s)

[Edited 2009-09-23 13:38:30]


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User currently offlineForce13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3059 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 7):
In the same way that Keith Olbermann is a leading mouthpiece for the Republican Party?

Don't let Ken read that LOL! He's a big 'ol Liberal Democrat!



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3048 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 7):
Keith Olbermann

Keith Olbermann doesn't have the impact and amount of sheep/followers Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3048 times:

Glen Beck is right ... he has the administration pinned down to the T. He is also a quack and a lunatic .. but he is right and the left hates him for it. So just go ahead and dismiss him as crazy , and watch something else .

I love it ... Go Glen!



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3041 times:



Quoting Force13 (Reply 5):
HLN - Ratings (If they keep Robin Meade they'll keep getting mine)

Mine too!



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5963 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3019 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
do not lead anyone. They are entertainers who stir the pot to get ratings and appeal to a radical idiotic fan base.

I'm not an idiot.

But I will agree that they are in it for the ratings and money.

Liberals are just mad because nobody listens to their talk radio shows.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
So it's just that simple?

Not my quote, I took it from the article.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Keith Olbermann doesn't have the impact and amount of sheep/followers Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

Yes he does.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21098 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3019 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 1):
Lots of radio personalities do stuff like that.

 checkmark  In the entertainment business, people like to watch other people do stupid stuff. Beck was, and still is, no exception.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Glenn Beck sounds like a real loser.

True, but we didn't exactly need this to make that conclusion.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3009 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 12):
Liberals are just mad because nobody listens to their talk radio shows.

Liberals don't need nourishment from radio loudmouths. Talk radio is a passive form of entertainment. Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio. That is the reason why conservative talk show host do well in this arena. You just turn on the radio and let the conditioning began.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5963 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2990 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals don't need nourishment from radio loudmouths

No they listen to boring NPR, where nothing is loud.  Silly

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio. That is the reason why conservative talk show host do well in this arena. You just turn on the radio and let the conditioning began.

Liberals have it tougher because they have to read books, written by leftists, to tell them how awful America is. We righties only have to turn on the radio, to hear how leftists are ruining America.. Actually when I buy my rightist books I see more of them than lefty books in the political section. Books by Michael Savage and Ann Coulter sell very well. Righties read too. Savage is a bit too out there for me, but Ann Coulter writes a good book.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21098 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2990 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 15):
No they listen to boring NPR, where nothing is loud.

You obviously haven't listened to Car Talk.  stirthepot 

-Mir



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5963 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2983 times:
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Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
You obviously haven't listened to Car Talk

I used to listen to that. I thought it was funny. However they spent too much time joking around and not answering the question. The show became more entertainment than educational. I also liked their column in the paper, my local newspaper doesn't carry it now. I now listen to the local car talk show on WRJ, in Detroit. That show is really informative.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2971 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio.

Glenn Beck , Mark Levin , Bill Oriely , Michelle Malkin , Dick Morris have all been on the NYT ,Amazon political bestsellers list for the many months . Becks last book is still number on non NYT non fiction ... his new book just came out Tuesday (already on Amazon #1 politics) .

The Presidents book is still on the paperback top 25 and there are a few other liberals who are on there but its pretty slim.

Not sure what this all means , but it seems someone is reading them .

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Nonfi...1&pf_rd_p=489691431&pf_rd_i=283155



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2967 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio. That is the reason why conservative talk show host do well in this arena.

So, just to be clear, you're saying that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21098 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2959 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 17):
The show became more entertainment than educational.

Weren't you just commenting on how NPR is boring? Yet you don't care for one of their shows because it is too entertaining.  confused 

-Mir



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5963 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
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Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 19):
So, just to be clear, you're saying that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives.

Nope, I'm saying we are don't have to spend a lot of time reading politcal books to get the facts. We can spend our time reading other kinds of books for fun and knowledge.

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Weren't you just commenting on how NPR is boring? Yet you don't care for one of their shows because it is too entertaining

If I was actually entertained by it I would still be listening. It can't be all boring, just like Rush Limbaugh isn't all politics (I know that is hard for anyone to believe who doesn't listen to him on a regular basis, but it is true).
I like PBS, but everytime I listen to NPR, it puts me to sleep.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Howard Stern is not a lefty in any way shape or form.

He is a degenerate so he must be a liberal  Silly We righties have our share too. Being a pervert isn't limited to any one political party.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2925 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio.

Or liberals just write books because when you write something and publish it, there's no one to immediately call in and argue with what you said. So maybe by writing, the left is avoiding arguments.

But your argument here also has holes, because conservatives are always told we're anti-poor, which means that the poor would not be conservative, and the poor often have lower literacy rates, which would thus make them unable to comprehend the "intelligent writings" of the left.

However, my theory on why conservative talk radio succeeds over liberal talk radio is because of who is in the environment to listen to talk radio and those people tend to lean politically. Talk radio is on during the day, when most people are at work. White Collar workers tend to be more conservative and work in environments where one can actually listen to talk radio while at work, ie, the work environment (an office) permits it. Blue collar workers, on the other hand, tend to be more Democratic, and often work in environments that wouldn't permit the listening to talk radio.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2893 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 21):
Nope, I'm saying we are don't have to spend a lot of time reading politcal books to get the facts. We can spend our time reading other kinds of books for fun and knowledge.

Sorry...that question was directed at Superfly.  Smile

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 22):
However, my theory on why conservative talk radio succeeds over liberal talk radio is because of who is in the environment to listen to talk radio and those people tend to lean politically. Talk radio is on during the day, when most people are at work. White Collar workers tend to be more conservative and work in environments where one can actually listen to talk radio while at work, ie, the work environment (an office) permits it. Blue collar workers, on the other hand, tend to be more Democratic, and often work in environments that wouldn't permit the listening to talk radio.

Interesting theory...raises a good point.



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User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2888 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Liberals tend to be readers which requires more brain cells than just listening to the radio

The main thing that Liberals read are their trust fund statements that allow them to save the world !!  Wow!


25 LTBEWR : Since Beck was a DJ, times have changed, there is now a lot less tolerance and knowledge of any racist or stereotyping of ethnicity and race. I want s
26 Post contains links GuitrThree : Spend 45 minutes watching this, from CBS NEWS, Katie Couric interview and then talk about how "extreme" he is: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=
27 Superfly : I listen to NPR because it's non-partisan and very monotone. I like my news to be presented in a boring manner. I don't like political spin and attit
28 Seb146 : I have never understood why the right is so outraged when Olbermann says something about anyone on the right, but when Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coult
29 Superfly : Ozzie Osbourne's fmr. guitarist? I thought he died in a plane crash over 25 years ago!
30 Ual777 : Is he? I see him as a far right conservative. Nothing more. Common knowledge? Please. I know we have had this discussion before, but I guess we can t
31 Venus6971 : I was listening to Beck this morning and he said there were many Private Investigators looking into his past life. If he was wrong all the time why w
32 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : You mean like downtown Detroit, Oakland, Harlem, East L.A., East St. Louis, Washington, D.C., Flint, Cleveland, Atlanta and all the other inner city
33 Superfly : Those aren't liberal bastions. They maybe Democratic but remember, not all Democrats are liberal. Those "hell-holes" you speak of have a LOT of Bible
34 FlyDeltaJets87 : Once again a statement with nothing to back it up. Huge shock. I wouldn't want to buy a place there. Waiting at 125th Street for the train to New Hav
35 Superfly : Who are the leaders in those communities? Why did you feel compelled to divide up New York City? There are plenty of affluent parts of New York City
36 FuturePilot16 : I think what we need to realize about Glenn Beck is that the man, ever since he was a young radio DJ, is an entertainer, who will do and say wild and
37 FlyDeltaJets87 : What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common? DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP! Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t
38 JBirdAV8r : Actually, all of the evidence I've seen to date seems to indicate that Democrats fall at the extremes of the educational spectrum. The majority of pe
39 Superfly : Nope. Once again, you need to realize that not all Democrats are liberals. Remember Ray Nagin used to be a Republican. There are many religious churc
40 SANAV8R : Yeah I was thinking this was about the rumor spread about Beck by anonymous and posted on places like Encyclopedia-Dramatica that he committed a certa
41 Yellowstone : Someone's comment I read about Beck - he probably doesn't believe half the stuff he says, he's just really good at finding an audience and telling the
42 Falstaff : There are plenty of leftists that don't pay taxes.... Obama had a couple working for him. Liberals are usually upset about something all the time tho
43 FuturePilot16 : So you think that there are death panels, Obama is a Nazi, Facist, Socialist, communist. You think Obama is trying to take your guns so you have to s
44 Falstaff : I know Obama is a socialist and maybe even a Commie. He isn't a Nazi, because he is a leftist. Facism and Nazism are rightist. I know Obama was born
45 Post contains links Aaron747 : An avowed conservative quoting Albert Einstein?? The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not e
46 Falstaff : Look at all blue in the northeast. That is where American freedom began and that is where it will end.
47 Aaron747 : You're really missing out dude. Lived in inner city San Francisco awhile back, heard shots and bumfights on many nights from my 14th story perch, but
48 Dreadnought : Pardon me, but Fascism and Nazism are based on Statism - the state taking power over people's private lives and becoming highly integrated into corpo
49 Aaron747 : Not to get too academic but Hitler actually referred to what he was trying to accomplish as "new socialism", but without emphasis on seizure of prope
50 Cws818 : Universities are not people. Universities are educational institutions. People do attend universities, however.
51 BMI727 : True, but then how do you reconcile this with the fact that Republicans tend to be more pro-business and many (most?) of the leaders of large compani
52 Falstaff : I would disagree. Hillbillys generaly live in areas without a lot of unions. There are a lot of minorites in unions too, especially the UAW, USW, and
53 FlyDeltaJets87 : But according to liberals who think they're more intelligent than everybody else, the only measure of one's intelligence level is whether or not they
54 Superfly : FlyDeltaJets87 was purposely singling out areas with a high Black population, not necessarily the most liberal area. Notice how he singled out Harlem
55 Dreadnought : Freedom and the individual responsibility that goes with it. The complete opposite of a nanny-state. Or are you saying that a nanny-state promotes fr
56 Falstaff : Interesting catch Superfly. Harlem is in the borrough of Manhattan, in New York County and therefore elections would be held borrough wide. I would s
57 Post contains links Superfly : I am no fan of the nanny-state. That is a very conservative ideal. Ummm, no, those were your guys. Along with the Holocaust. Again, you conveniently
58 BMI727 : Perhaps I tossed the term around too loosely, but I think my point remains that many of the blue collar people the Democrats generally work for are c
59 Dreadnought : No, but you seem to be a denier of the fact that Nazi stands for National Socialism, and was based on state control - the antithesis of anything cons
60 Superfly : Adlof Hitler was an authoritarian that carried out extreme right-wing views through force. He was a mass murderer. You are the only person that call
61 FlyDeltaJets87 : How do you define "liberal"? Because my take on the political spectrum is that there are numerous branches on each side of the spectrum that go off i
62 BMI727 : I dunno, they really, really like their guns. Like me? Not to hijack the thread, but the problem is not whether or not a gay person can inherit money
63 Superfly : I guess you didn't read the part in reply #27 where I said; "Granted there are a small handful of intelligent conservatives but they aren't of the Be
64 Superfly : Oh but churches still dictate when I can buy alcohol depending on what state I am in. As a drinker, buying alcohol is something that I hold very dear
65 BMI727 : Blue laws are dumb and outdated. No argument there. That isn't what they think. The church has a legit beef, if you can get past all of the psychos t
66 FlyDeltaJets87 : Well this is all the proof we need to know you don't listen to anyone's arguments, despite your claims to the contrary, because while I agree with on
67 BMI727 : Nobody can walk safely down the streets of Detroit.
68 Post contains links Dreadnought : I didn't call him a liberal. I called him a leftist. WTF are you talking about 'fly? Are you being like Carter & Co, "If you disagree with us, you're
69 Superfly : Same here. I just brought it up to help educate FlyDeltaJets87 and the varying ideologies on the left. I am a straight guy but I already know I am go
70 FlyDeltaJets87 : "Detroit and Atlanta has lots of Baptists" or "Detroit and Atlanta have lots of Baptists"? Was grammar not part of the curriculum at one of those "el
71 Superfly : I never attended an elite university and I am not that liberal. So I am allowed to misspell a few words here in there.
72 Aaron747 : No no we're not going down the road of policing grammar and spelling are we? Both AGM and Seb won't be able to post anymore.
73 Post contains links and images FlyDeltaJets87 : Even though I already support gay marriage so I don't know what your point is with this one, especially since I didn't bring up gay marriage in the f
74 FlyDeltaJets87 : Oh I'm just mocking one of the tactics Superfly used in another thread to Dreadnought. I can usually figure out what the typo meant to say and read o
75 Superfly : I just brought it up to help educate you of the varying ideologies on the left. It's blatantly false and disingenuous on Dreadnought's part. I sense
76 Superfly : I was not knocking Dreadnought's credibility. In my book, he doesn't have it to begin with.
77 Dreadnought : Here you go again. I used to like you 'fly. We disagreed on most things but seemed pretty cool. But I don't know what you are sniffing today because
78 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 :    I was wondering what good excuse you'd come up with to explain your hypocrisy when you were caught.    I already know there are differing ideo
79 Superfly : To have the nerve and gall the claim Nazis are leftist is blatantly insulting to the victims of the holocaust and those who fought the Nazis. It is w
80 Post contains links Dreadnought : Quoting Superfly (Reply 79): It is well documented that the Nazis are an extreme right-wing group. Look, you seem to buy into the popular definition o
81 Superfly : All of whom are vilified and despised by the far-right today.
82 Dreadnought : 'Fly, you really need some help. Hatred just eats you up.
83 Superfly : Now if that isn't the pot calling the kettle. The hatred is on your side of the aisle pal.
84 Falstaff : I don't know how the far right feels about the Poles, but I doubt even your your modern skin head has much of an issue with them.
85 Superfly : True. As far as the rest goes......
86 FlyDeltaJets87 : And communists are the far end of the left spectrum, which falls under China, North Korea, and the Soviet Union, and let's point out that the USSR ki
87 Post contains links and images Dtwclipper : Do I have to call Jimmy Carter or are you guys going to stop picking on Detroit!
88 FlyDeltaJets87 : As long as you guys have the Lions, there will always be a reason to pick on Detroit.
89 Superfly : Everyone knows that. When did I say you couldn't? Stopping putting words in my mouth. Gotta run. I'll yell at you folks later.
90 Avent : You are grossly oversimplifying here and making a basic confusion between Socialism in an economic sense, and Socialism in a Political/Totalitarian s
91 Boeing4ever : Anyone who believes that liberals are more intelligent than convervatives or conservatives are more intelligent than liberals is an idiot, and a liar,
92 FlyDeltaJets87 : I am already aware of this. Why don't you read the entire thread, and realize I was calling out the absurdity of Superfly's argument (which I notice
93 Superfly : How about leaving me out if it since his question was directed at you?
94 FlyDeltaJets87 : What question was in his post? Please quote the question that was in his post for me. Because I didn't see one.
95 Superfly : Ok, comments that were directed at you. Happy?
96 FlyDeltaJets87 : Already did. No.
97 Superfly : Can't help you there pal.
98 Boeing4ever : Ahhh, and another discussion that goes nowhere... courtesty of liberals and conservatives. Who are the bigger terrorists? Al Qaida whom our men and wo
99 Superfly : Do you see an end to the amount of hatred on the extremes of the political spectrum? I didn't see any of this until the 1990s and it has got worse re
100 Avent : Fair enough, I was skimming and saw your response and didn't realize you were being intentionally absurd.
101 Boeing4ever : Sooner or later. They are either marginalized when everyone else ignores them...or they meet a more violent, but no less deserved end... ...nor do Ol
102 FlyDeltaJets87 : Thanks for at least admitting that.
103 Superfly : Barely know who half of those people are. It's all up to me ay? As I've said many times, I don't agree with the Democrats on everything either. Never
104 Boeing4ever : They're the same ilk as Limbaugh and Coulter. They vary between extremes. But they're the same deep down. It's up to all of us. But when you post dri
105 Superfly : I've had many civilized discussions with plenty of folks locally who are far more liberal than me about my skepticism about global warming, Kyoto tre
106 Boeing4ever : I'm not talking about that. Rather, I'm looking at your diatribe about "conservatives" on this very thread...a prattling off of something that reads
107 Superfly : I've had plenty of civil discussions with conservatives that I respect about various issues. Many of my friends that I have made at this site are con
108 BMI727 : They have to. All politicians must appeal strictly to the middle. Every candidate will have a certain number of blind followers who believe that poli
109 Superfly : I know that. I was referring to Boeing4ever's comment; Sounded as though he was implying that the more recent Presidents are somehow less civilized.
110 BMI727 : Kind of, but I think that he would be wrong on that front. They might have SEEMED more civilized, but a true comparison is very difficult just becaus
111 Post contains links FlyDeltaJets87 : Yes, Soldiers being spit on and called "baby killers" by some in the anti-war movement was very "peaceful", as were the riots on college campuses to
112 Yellowstone : Right on the economic axis, wrong on the political one. The two extremes on the political scale are not "socialism" and "democracy" but rather "anarc
113 Boeing4ever : You say that, but your diatribe, and the subsequent diatribes from the other side betray something else... At this rate any news network that gets ac
114 Yellowstone : That's a horribly tautological sentence! Let's take the real-world example of health care reform, where most plans would result in higher taxes but m
115 Boeing4ever : What a cop out. And a sad example of how political parties deal with matters such as these. When will people realize that things like infrastructure
116 Superfly : As dishonorable and unpatriotic it is to spit on soldiers, that pales in comparison to the lynchings and church-bombings by angry mobs on the extreme
117 FlyDeltaJets87 : One of the common lies of the left. The impeachment was not over the blow job. The impeachment was over lying under oath about the blow job. In legal
118 Superfly : ....and here we go again. Anyhow, Clinton was not removed from office and the votes were never there in the first place to remove him. In the end, a
119 Cws818 : And a Democratic president. With that Republican Congress and Republican administration, that lovely surplus and balanced budget evaporated.
120 FlyDeltaJets87 : And it's only gotten worse under a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress.
121 Cws818 : Until Obama submits his own budget after a year in office that won't be a fair charge.
122 Post contains links FlyDeltaJets87 : WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's budget would produce $9.3 trillion in deficits over the next decade, an eye-popping figure that threatens his a
123 StasisLAX : "When fascism comes (to America) it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." quoted from the American great author/playwright Sinclair Lewis
124 Post contains links Dreadnought : Kinda funny since some people would not consider Beck a Christian - he is Mormon. And frequently abused by the left. This is the kind of brainless st
125 Boeing4ever : You know, it's interesting... ...always the "other side". "My side" has no responsibility. Always the "other side". ...Even when trying to come off a
126 Superfly : See any liberals showing to Bush, McPalin rallies with guns? When did I ever claim to be "fair & balanced"? Anyhow, I am entitled to have an opinion
127 IAirAllie : Beck himself has talked about not being proud of the person he used to be back when he was an addict. It doesn't surprise me at all he behaved like th
128 Boeing4ever : What the hell do I care? Rallies are worthless. I want my country run correctly. Leave your assinine party emotion (and your gun for that matter) out
129 Avent : I wish you'd stop sugar-coating things and tell us what you really think...
130 Superfly : Huh? Why should I think that? You've made your opinions of President Obama well known here in the forums before. Not sure where you assumed that I th
131 Boeing4ever : Why should I sugar coat it? My country is being run into the ground by zealous idiots more interested in protecting their hollow party platforms than
132 Dreadnought : Ummm, it sounds like you haven't really watched his show - he has spoken numerous times about his "humbling", about what a turd he was, and specifica
133 Boeing4ever : Books titled "Arguing with Idiots" don't strike me as coming from a humble person. In addition, I've seen his show (he may have been a bit more sane
134 Avent : Not at all.
135 AGM100 : Its no different than reading the Opinion section of your local paper,, or opinion pieces in Time Newsweek etc ... They are protected by free speech.
136 Dreadnought : I haven't read it, but it sounds like you are just reading too much into the title. I may not have hit his decibel level, but I would have yelled at
137 Boeing4ever : I have absolutely no problem with them expressing their beliefs. It's just that when they start to mudsling and spread blatant misinformation to cham
138 Dreadnought : He says he's supposed to be a Czar, but I agree the similarity is unnerving. How do you make that connection?
139 Boeing4ever : Reread my statement. I pointed out that Beck's calling Obama a racist held as much water as Carter stating that anyone disagreeing with Obama was a r
140 Dreadnought : No. On one side, you are analysing a single person - his writings, his speeches, the people he associates with, his education, and so forth. On the o
141 Tsaord : Thats just the crazy world we live in. Its ok for blacks to make fun of whites because at one point we were your slaves and shot with water hoses. Th
142 Avent : Really? You think Jimmy Carter reached his conclusion by visiting a few extreme websites and put his reputation on the line by generalizing what he s
143 Dreadnought : Nope, I think it's worse - he heard about them third hand. Wow. This is the first time I've heard them called extremists. If you think they are extre
144 Kiwiandrew : Sometimes Anet reduces me to tears . Is English no longer taught at school in ostensibly English speaking countries ? Interesting piece about Beck's p
145 Boeing4ever : I don't know how I can make this any more crystal clear to you dude. You're not paying attention to a word I'm saying. Glenn Beck says Obama is racis
146 Avent : Except when a black man wins the election they do everything in their power to undermine his government, so you're being quite disingenous here. Your
147 AGM100 : So was the right being "sexists " when they opposed "Hillary Care"? We paid for them ... go look at federal receipts from 2003 though 2007.... unempl
148 Cws818 : Sen. Dodd and Rep. Frank were not committee chairmen until 1/4/07. Because the Republicans controlled Congress, Dodd and Frank were merely ranking me
149 Post contains links AGM100 : Not really , http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html Barney , Waters , and the Dems ... had the little political slush fund going at
150 Yellowstone : You're misquoting Carter. He said that a large portion of the intense opposition to Obama - calling him a Nazi/Communist, suggesting that he return t
151 Avent : Dunno, but when they obsessed over Hillary and wallowed in slimeball politics that talked about her "cackle" or her clapping like a seal, they were e
152 Superfly : Boeing4ever: Are you sure you listened to what former President Carter said? Could you repeat his exact words here?
153 Boeing4ever : Every President since Lyndon Johnson has been likened to Hitler at some point. A Google search will show photos of anti-US protests or even domestic
154 Avent : Yes but you're trying to ignore there are degrees of craziness, and right now, the level of craziness out of the Right is truly scary. For example, B
155 Post contains links Dreadnought : Beck has not shown it (not yet anyway), so don't pretend he did. This is the video, by the way. Judge for yourself. http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgaO_BAI%2
156 Post contains links FlyDeltaJets87 : Sounds just like the "Prayers of the Faithful" the Catholic Church uses following the Apostle's Creed. The priest will read off the particular person
157 Dreadnought : Jeez, can you imagine the cries of fascism that the left would raise?
158 AGM100 : Ya ... that is a spiritual ritual alright . The Prophet Jeremiah spoke of health care ? Man I missed that passage .... or was it the Prophet Jeremiah
159 Post contains links Yellowstone : Context, my friend, context. The video in question was only part of a larger Black History Month celebration. They celebrated other presidents in add
160 Post contains links Dreadnought : Bullcrap. Weak excuse. Where were the songs to Martin Luther King, or Frederick Douglas, or others that had a real impact on "Black History"? Those s
161 Yellowstone : Maybe someone just didn't tape those, or didn't post those portions online. Check out the end of the Daily Show segment, where a bunch of kids from a
162 Dreadnought : Looks like Jon added those lyrics himself - or why did he edit out the kids? Anyway, that didn't look like a school function. You can find anything o
163 Boeing4ever : Oh brother, like I give a damn. I don't take fools like these seriously. Carter's words stepped over a line just the same as these ass clowns video.
164 Avent : Perhaps; Perhaps not. If it's fair to claim the tenor of current debate has become very crass and overheated, and if this is caused in part by people
165 Post contains links Superfly : Boeing4ever, can you please listen to what former President Jimmy Carer actually said? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA4W70E6krk&feature=channel
166 Avent : The video over which the claim it showed people praying to Obama was withdrawn by Breitbart. Look, the elephant in the room here is even if the claim
167 Boeing4ever : Oh my gosh. You don't get it. You just don't get it. You politicos just don't get it. Dems and Reps with their heads so far up their asses. "It's not
168 Superfly : ....and that is where you are wrong. Jimmy Carter NEVER said "anyone" who disagrees must be racist. He said "some" of his critics are racist and that
169 Boeing4ever : I would be foolish to discount those nutjobs as simply misguided. They're racist, or at the very least chose to use some low blows that only cause th
170 Seb146 : Out of curiosity, did Palin ever tell those people they were being rude or ask them to please not use that kind of language because it is disrespectf
171 Avent : Excuse me? What ideologies did I preach? I took you to task for taking a cheap shot at an ex president through unfairly misquoting him. What are you
172 Boeing4ever : The ideologies of democrats and republicans...namely "us vs. them". Your very posts talk about "them" i.e. Beck, and goes on about how "they" are try
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