QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2406 posts, RR: 5 Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
In Tuesday's Fresno Bee, a very interesting article was in the paper about a proposed solar "farm" in the Fresno County and San Benito County areas. Solargen has proposed the biggest solar farm in the world (second would be in Spain at 65 megawatts)! The portion in Fresno County would cover 2,600 acres and produce up to 250 megawatts of electricty (or around 125,000 to 200,000 homes) and the portion in San Benito County would cover just around 10,000 acres of land and produce up to 1,000 megawatts or 1.0 gigawatts of power (around 500,000 to 800,000 homes)!
PG&E has already been in talks with Solargen to purchase the "green" elecrity from them and power central and northern California with it. The location in San Benito County is the touchy location because of the wild life there. Read the article and you will see the issues and solutions proposed for this. The location though is a good spot because PG&E already runs lines through the area going to a grid. PG&E would be building a substation out in near the location if these plans go through.
Solargen says it would also be able to provide Fresno with at least 150 jobs before the panels are even in use because they would bring a plant to Fresno to manufacture these panels as it would be cheaper than purchasing all the panels needed.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 27340 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2194 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
My point was is that solar power doesn't provide that much power.
It doesn't take up useful space either. The middle of the desert is much less of a burden than next to a body of water for cooling. Also, it does produce plenty of power when you consider integration of other methods.
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QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2406 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2131 times:
Quoting Superfly (Reply 1): Neat idea but a nuclear power plant would provide MUCH more power
For sure! Look at the numbers I gave compared to other "green" sources of energy. Although it would produce a lot of energy, a county in California would need to really want it for the job because I would think most would not want anything nuclear near their homes. Maybe northern California?
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): It doesn't take up useful space either.
That is correct. You can put these in the middle of the desert and no one will be complaining because you took their prime spot to build their dream home.
Quoting N1120A (Reply 10): Because it is in the middle of a major metro area.
I know its not a major metro area but Diablo Canyon is in Avila Beach near Pismo Beach and San Luis Obispo which are pretty good size areas.
Besides that point, what a beutiful place to work eh? Right on the ocean!
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 21211 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2123 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
When it comes to recycling of waste, definitely. That said, we need to stop relying on mined fuel generally. Parabolic mirrors are one way of doing that.
Well, the nice thing about nuclear is that you don't need very much fuel to get a bunch of energy out. It's a good stopgap supply of energy while we wait for something truly renewable, like fusion, to come along,.
Flanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2112 times:
Now we just have to wait for the environmentalist wackos to start screaming that some lizard might be in danger or a cactus might be killed because of 10,000 acres of panels and other things associated with that. How many people want to bet it wont happen because this is "renewable" energy?
God forbid we put nuclear plants in place that provide proper energy.
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Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6752 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2086 times:
Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 19):
The ones that are already in place above both sites, according to the article. What extra capacity they have is not mentioned, but transmission lines already exist.
uh huh.. and they are in talks with PG&E.. the company that contracted "solar energy with panels in space.."
"California's biggest energy utility announced a deal Monday to purchase 200 megawatts of electricity from a startup company that plans to beam the power down to Earth from outer space, beginning in 2016."
Alias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2058 times:
Quoting Mt99 (Reply 22): uh huh.. and they are in talks with PG&E.. the company that contracted "solar energy with panels in space.."
They are also the company that provides electricity for millions of homes and businesses in California, including my apartment. They have a very large coverage area in the state as PG&E is the dominant electric utility in central and northern California. If you need someone to buy and move your electricity in this state, PG&E is the first call you make.
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